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Modified Soul

GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

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Modified Soul

Xmarqsthespot, just wanna give a shout out to you man. Finally started this thread, oooh i've been waiting. This thread is very important to this mystery.

 

Metaphors is all there is to it. ESPECIALLY THE TRACT. Have you guys read it? Because in that case you should know that, it's pointed out many times.

 

Just a question for all of you. Has there ever been any reward for the easter eggs in the GTA franchise? (or any game ever? please correct me if i'm wrong).

 

No offense to anyone and i don't wanna sound like some know-it-all douchebag, but i think the majority of the audience is either too young or just too close-minded about this game. Because it's not just a game, think of it like an album. Have you heard the saying "A picture is worth a thousand words"? Have that in mind the next time you replay the game and you might all the small details put in it. (Side note: Chiliad is latin and literally means "a thousand", could be a ironic coincidence or could be Rockstar being mad f*cking geniouses)

 

And again, it's like an album. It has different meanings to anyone who plays it. Hmm... now that i'm already talking about music, take some time from your hunting and listen to this damn fine song from Kanye West and try to find some keywords from this whole Chiliad mystery. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=MTjugAgCR6M. I've heard it a million of times before but never really realising the true meaning of it. Feel free to you www.rapgenius.com to look it up (trust me, its a legit side). FOR THE LAZY - Spaceships and jetpacks is just a metaphor for an escape from, work, life, or the hamsterwheel if you like. Drugs, money, flashy things, vacations etc. Things to LIFT YOUR MIND, get BEAMED UP aka GET YOU HIGH. Are you guys beginning to comprehend all of this? I dont wanna go on an on with a lot of mystical talk so i'll try to keep all of this short.

 

As I said before, a picture is worth a thousand words. Get beamed up, getting lifted and all of that, also means to be knowledged. To be aware. Why do you think it says FIB on the spaceships? And by the way, have you heard of all the NSA revalations lately? We are constantly beeing watched. By the government. Who also controls us. Does the EYE start to make sense? The eye in the sky, the all seeing eye. And also I, as in me, as in you, as in all of us. I guess y'all have seen the wallpapers on R* website. WE are that eye, at the same time as that eye represent the government watching us, controlling us. TAKE CONTROL!

 

Are things getting clearer? Sorry if i'm taking things too fast, feel free to ask about anything. Writing directly out of my mind as I cracked this egg not too long ago. (where's my jetpack R*? :( ).

 

Yeah that's the truth, no rewards for this, as of now at least. This is just a hint from rockstar to wake us up, to take control of our COSMIC EGG aka the Earth. In real life ofcourse.

 

A thing about easter eggs. What do we do with em? We paint them. If you want yours to be piss ugly with blood and slaughter on it, so be it. If you'd like yours to be beatiful, that's better.

 

Rockstar is aware that the world aka our cosmic egg aka our easter egg is cracking. and want us to be too. They want to beam us up. There is too much greed, too much violence, too much bullsh*t. We're getting lied to by our leaders, by the media etc.

 

All of this i've been writing is also hinted to us by the Epsilon Program. It's all they praise, "knowing the truth" and all of that. By the way have you heard the random encounter epsilonist standing near the vangelico jewlery store where you did the heist? If you listen to what he says you'll figure out that their main goal is to become a better person. It's not directly spoken of, it's metaphorical ofcourse. He also speaks of the golden rule (you know, in christianity). He says something similar to "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself." and I think that's why karma is implied so much.

 

This whole thing is a huuuge metaphor thought through well by Rockstar about our world that is about to collapse because of all the bad things happenin all around us. They want us to be aware of that and to take control of the situation before it's too late. They have taken inspiration from many, MANY, real-life sources and events and especially music. About the mural, beside from being what Xmarqs says about Freuds iceberg, i believe the 3 pictures at the bottom refer to many things, including the locations of the ufos - (forgot to mention that part soz) with the ufo beeing the chiliad one for obvious reasons. The egg beeing the hippycamp, both because of its shape and because of its references to our planet. And finally the jetpack guy is Zancudo because thats where we got the jetpack in GTA:SA

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wellaswallace

So was somebody beamed up into the UFO then? How big was it?

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askinnywhitedildo

I've seen a few people saying they have seen a abduction happen. First time I saw someone say it was just a few weeks after the game released. So I think it's plausible.

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Bongwatre

Someone was talking about the station wagons being the vehicles people got abducted in?

Cause I found 3 station wagons on the dirt rode next to Lago Zanduco on my way to the fort

Coincidence?
Or did R* put them there for a reason?

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/member/mictar92/games/gtav/snapmatic/mostrecent/photo/7LvUYgX6w0qPkphSCpixPw

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/member/mictar92/games/gtav/snapmatic/mostrecent/photo/b_pNdBMn10aIQpmZ5VTIgA

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/member/mictar92/games/gtav/snapmatic/mostrecent/photo/InlTSFDllUa5puw3hVYyHw

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POWA

Are there any movies where people get abducted in a station wagon? Maybe it could be some type of movie easter egg.

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ImperiumSineFine

Are there any movies where people get abducted in a station wagon? Maybe it could be some type of movie easter egg.

 

 

Close encounters of the 3rd kind classic example. You would think a more specific, visual reference would occur though, like exact model car and seeing it happen. Not just parked on the road.

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Druminator

So was it ever determined why they decided to change the weird structure on the beach? It was part of the Beach Bum DLC so they must have had intentions on us seeing it since was on the beach and we had new beach themed things.

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RTAGAME

For me is the Segregate and rearrange an anagram for Easteregg near big ear. The Big Ears are in real live these huge Radiotelescopes. And what is near the radiotelescopes in SA? The Hippy Camp UFO... or maybe the hidden Alienegg? :D

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tresshold

I've seen strange shadows in the hippiecamp at 2:00 am.

the rain had stopped (no thunder) and I was on the 'beam me up' spot.

I was facing the hill with the boxes, as I was just standing there and the cam went on idle.

there was this big shadow going over the small hill.

like the headlights of cars car driving up from behind you, making shadows move in front of you.

but that wasn't possible because there was nothing behind me that could of made that lights. (just the salvation mt.)

the shadow was going from the right side on the hill to left, and it moved back. (not really fast)

as soon as I moved my joystick it was gone.

it couldn't be a car or train and there was nothing behind me.

I can't tell if the lights came from behind because they could of just came from above.

the shadow looked a bit like a antenna mast, like that weird trail glyph

 

not really a big thing but it was unexplainable for me.

thought I share this info after reading about abduction

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MrEZmoneymaker

EZ, maybe you perhaps didnt take as long for the mission on your second play through because you were better at the game than when you first started.

 

The pickpocket mentions on the file thread interested me as i couldn't remember doing any.

It is a possibility? as i figured out after 20+ missions in a row, ways to avoid & lose them easier so i wouldnt have been in the chase as long. So if it was triggered by time, weather or being at the right place on the map during the right mission, it would be pretty hard to get right just randomly guessing it. Im leaning towards i just didnt do the right mission or enough to get that particular one, as i wasnt sure what job i did for this again at the time, & i knew these jobs did not have an end so only did those i really had to or when i had nothing else to do on the map. Was more concentrating finishing simeon missions before trevor showed up, doing all random missions etc that i had missed & also trying to get 4 to the altruist camp & saving money to do the assassination jobs last to get the cash from the stock market that i hadnt done the first play through.

 

I need to go read about the pick pocket thing also. Dont remember that either.

 

edited: also i was sure initially that it was night time when i saw this abduction, but after trying to replay this in my head over & over lol im not so sure now :( only thing i can think i can be more positive on was that it was raining as i do remember struggling to keep the vehicle straight alot (usually a sign of wet weather racing) & that it was so cloudy at the time that it gave the perception of it being at night? I do know the beam that came out of it was easily recognizable from the sky & then i heard the ufo sound. This is why i didnt want to state too much as i wasnt exactly sure & i didnt have enough solid facts to determine any leads to follow.

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Bazree

For me is the Segregate and rearrange an anagram for Easteregg near big ear. The Big Ears are in real live these huge Radiotelescopes. And what is near the radiotelescopes in SA? The Hippy Camp UFO... or maybe the hidden Alienegg? :D

Since when did segregate and rearrange have a B in it

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EZ, maybe you perhaps didnt take as long for the mission on your second play through because you were better at the game than when you first started.

 

The pickpocket mentions on the file thread interested me as i couldn't remember doing any.

It is a possibility? as i figured out after 20+ missions in a row, ways to avoid & lose them easier so i wouldnt have been in the chase as long. So if it was triggered by time, weather or being at the right place on the map during the right mission, it would be pretty hard to get right just randomly guessing it. Im leaning towards i just didnt do the right mission or enough to get that particular one, as i wasnt sure what job i did for this again at the time, & i knew these jobs did not have an end so only did those i really had to or when i had nothing else to do on the map. Was more concentrating finishing simeon missions before trevor showed up, doing all random missions etc that i had missed & also trying to get 4 to the altruist camp & saving money to do the assassination jobs last to get the cash from the stock market that i hadnt done the first play through.

 

I need to go read about the pick pocket thing also. Dont remember that either.

 

edited: also i was sure initially that it was night time when i saw this abduction, but after trying to replay this in my head over & over lol im not so sure now :( only thing i can think i can be more positive on was that it was raining as i do remember struggling to keep the vehicle straight alot (usually a sign of wet weather racing) & that it was so cloudy at the time that it gave the perception of it being at night? I do know the beam that came out of it was easily recognizable from the sky & then i heard the ufo sound. This is why i didnt want to state too much as i wasnt exactly sure & i didnt have enough solid facts to determine any leads to follow.

 

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MrEZmoneymaker

I've seen a few people saying they have seen a abduction happen. First time I saw someone say it was just a few weeks after the game released. So I think it's plausible.

I did think this also. As i had that impression so never made mention or suggested i saw it as i had assumed it was already known about. But as this hunt is getting to the frustration stage after trying so much, i would vouch for what TrevorStinkyFingers has said, as i know that i saw the same thing in the same area doing the trafficking missions as was posted on the previous thread. It could lead to nothing even if others are able to confirm it. But a rare ufo encounter in the game by the sounds, compared to all the rest that everybody seems to have seen.

 

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LOL the last person on the last thread who tried to dismiss my observations with similar intent as your pathetic attempt had to eat their words within 24 hours!!!!!!!!! & they stopped posting on the thread or this one because he was proven to be troll & a person who had no skill to even achieve what i did getting into the tower with no wanted stars!!!! so best you keep that in mind!!!!

 

Dont mind non believers, but stirrers who have contributed nothing in this hunt so far probably need to keep their trolling posts to themselves!!!!

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I am about to see if i can find anything from the file thread, since there are 2 ufo links in the files they have found that have a strong possibility of being a possible connection to this abduction :) i stayed on all night last time some poster trolled me to get the proof to shove it down that persons throat & now i have another reason to give this 110% to shove down anothers :D

Thanks for the motivation ashy152!!! i will be happy to have any post or comment you ever make after i prove you a wrong completely dismissed by any of the real hunters just like the last guy!!!!

 

edited: i also post alot here so anytime you make a post or comment or make a suggestion after i prove this, i will ensure to remind the thread of this!

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MrMunchs

I've just noticed that the scooter that drives trevor in the scooter brothers scene has betty 32 plate...not related with the hunt but its interesting. Also found trevor dropping grenades while driving with Franklin near sandy shores at his house, that explains the explosions... just wanted to share.

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XMarqstheSpot

 

Are there any movies where people get abducted in a station wagon? Maybe it could be some type of movie easter egg.

 

 

Close encounters of the 3rd kind classic example. You would think a more specific, visual reference would occur though, like exact model car and seeing it happen. Not just parked on the road.

 

Mom and Dad Save the World...

 

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MrEZmoneymaker

This was interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnT461TjJs (Warning door may open suddenly)

This forum site needs to do something about all these false misleading & fake youtube videos being posted! :(

If i was still doing adsense whoring i would have made a killing from this forum & posting fake videos under 20 different profiles, having myself confirm fake info from other fake user profiles as im seeing at the moment!

GTA Forums gets a real high google search ranking (normally page one or two), especially if it links to a utube vid because its owned by google! you are basically lining the pockets of crooks! :(

 

edited: how do you think that fake space docker horn vid that was posted here only a few days ago, that was still at less than the 301+ utube view limit is now at over 27,000 views now??? because people continued to post it here & it pushed it up the google search for this topic! :(

May not sound a big deal to many, but if this hunt continues for 3-4 months longer & they continue to post a new fake video every week & make sure its posted here, they are going to be reaching their $100 adsense withdraw limit quicker than you can debunk all their fake videos :(

 

sori OP i know its off topic, but this is really getting out of hand. People spending more time debunking fake info from these vids & misleading hunters on wild goose chases.

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POWA

So far, no luck driving around with the station wagon with Franklin and Trevor. I've been doing it for a few nights on the paved road across from the lighthouse and around Grapeseed. The arms missions haven't produced anything either, but I haven't gotten that one near the lighthouse yet.

 

I finally saw the single FIB agent that stands at the satellite dishes. It was raining and It was also odd since it was like he was waiting for someone. I was Trevor so it was hostile when I tried to interact with him. He mentioned being 100 times smarter and beautiful than me which was funny. I followed him when he walked off, but that doesn't produce anything since he'll walk in a different direction if he runs into something. Maybe Micheal or Franklin will have a better interaction.

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MrEZmoneymaker

So far, no luck driving around with the station wagon with Franklin and Trevor. I've been doing it for a few nights on the road next to the lighthouse and around Grapeseed. The arms missions haven't produced anything either, but I haven't gotten that one near the lighthouse yet.

I never saw the abduction scene in a station wagon & was trevor as i had made the pickup & was getting chased while heading back to the airfield. Others may have? i was in the dune buggy vehicle you use for those missions.

 

edited: also im only backing up another posters observations, as i know i saw this to. so im not saying it could lead to anything , but is a rare interaction with the ufo's tho.

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MrEZmoneymaker

Thanks to all those that added their psych report info to my google doc (much appreciated to Glokon for retrieving it for me).
I have now closed it off for public editing to save it being wiped by trolls again. I thought i would post One Poor Fools observation of the info (hope this is ok with him) as it seems to match quite nicely & also follows a similar idea i have on it also.
From my analysis the first line may correspond to strangers and freaks, the second line corresponds to performance in missions (bronze goldarrow-10x10.png silver requirements) and the last line seems to be a "sum up this patient in one line" observation.
If any others have a view or opinion on this please feel free to post your ideas.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai5ZQ7f6H5mIdEkzTFhnakFwWG5Td2I2SUNySDRNUlE&usp=sharing (incase you needed to view it again)

 

edited: i dont see this as a way to help our search myself now. However i will not dismiss it completely if others can explain & point out a possible theory for it that will.

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ana lill

Hi folks,

 

Had a bit of holiday during xmas which I devoted to GTAV. After getting 100% and seeing the UFO I had an intense weekend of myth hunting. Unfortunately I am back to work so hopefully some of the following findings and thoughts might be useful and reignite the myth hunting.

 

Also, this post contains spoilers, be warnedJ

 

In the below I have segregated the wealth of info on this subject and rearranged it according to a bit of interesting connections I have found.

 

In the spirit of Epsilonism, ill start with the perhaps most striking first, even if they are of the least importance ( I think).

 

1) Zancudo UFO anagram

You can probably make 50 to 100 thousand meaningful anagrams out of Segregate and Rearrange. However, in the context of GTAV it’s possible to narrow down the results significantly. I find the “easter egg” proposal a bit dull and it does not cater for the words “and” and “rearrange”.

 

Here are some interesting anagrams of the full sentence:

a) “Near radar generates egg”

b) “Egg area endanger arrest”

c) “Egg arranger seated near”

d) “Easter egg near great ear” (someone else recently posted this)

 

And my favourite:

d) “Rang star era ear, need egg”

“Star era ear” might be a reference to Big Ear (the real world satellite to pick up the Wow signal). “Rang” could be a reference to the Wow signal (6EQUJ5) that is written on the painted mountain side/hippie camp in the desert.

 

if you wish to find your own anagrams I suggest using this online facility for finding meaningful anagrams

http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/

 

2) The 9 paradigms of the Epsilon program and the Mount Chiliad Mural.

The Epsilon program is clearly connected to the Chiliad mural in some form or another. According to Marnie, “we worship Kraff where the earth reaches out to the 9th paradigm”. Coincidentally the first tract is directly on top of the red eye symbol at mount chiliad. Also the 9th paradigm is not completed, we/the earth can only reach out to it. What a coincidence!! This red eye is the only symbol not contained in a box on the mural, all other symbols (the x’s, ufo, egg, and jetpack) are contained in boxes. The 8 boxes are possibly a metaphor/metaphors for the other 8 paradigms (any connection to the infinite 8 mystery??), or the other way around (kifflom) and they are located on earth, however, the 9th paradigm is so far clearly out of reach.

 

A central doctrine in the epsilon tract is that we got everything backwards, from omega to alpha, and back again, and from Z to A. The whole extra-terrestrial plot starts quite literally with Omega (the stranger freak person asking us to find the spaceship parts). We end up with the first clue, the eye on top of Mount Chiliad. I am inclined to think that this is both the start and the beginning of the end of the mystery and of the tract. So we need to figure our way back to the start again, the egg.

 

2 a) Of the Egg and the Dove

Accoring to Epsilonism the World is 157 years old, which takes us back to 1856. Quite notably Nicola Tesla was born in 1856 (no he was not American, and Mr. T. Edison cannot begin to compare). He has been a central figure in several real world conspiracies involving electrical power, UFO/extra-terrestrial activity and more. Two of his famous experiments is that of the Columbus Egg and of the so called Death Ray.

 

2 aa) The Egg (possibly the first paradigm)

Christoffer Columbus gained the attention of his critics when he demonstrated that he indeed could make an egg stand upright on its edge, he cracked it (the cracked egg symbolizing that once the feat has been done, anyone can do it). Similarly, Nicola Tesla gained attention for his research by making a bronze egg stand up-right and spiral with the help of electro-magnetic fields.

 

The American continent, as we know it today, came of this cracked egg – the lake, the trees, the eagle, the dove and so on. Teslas egg symbolize a superior technology lost to capitalism (T. Edison admitted on his death bed that Teslas research was far superior). But in order to utilize the technology you need capitalism and great wealth (quite familiar in the Epsilonist religion). Once more we see how things are backwards, from omega to alpha, and back again.

 

2 ab) The Dove (possibly the ninth paradigm)

So what can the egg provide us with? The technology to fully reach out and acquaint ourselves to the 9th paradigm, i.e. the technology needed to operate the UFO’s and hopefully a means of ending all war (the dove is a symbol of peace). The main connection here is Tesla’s work on a weapon to end all war, the so called death ray. I believe this is relevant as the “weapon” of the UFO’s is called “death ray” in the GTA files (check out the file hunt posts) and it correlates wonderfully with the metaphor of the dove. Thus, the dove also comes from the egg. The 9th paradigm is derived from the first, but we started with Omega.

 

This is starting to remind me of a fancy “chicken and egg” paradox… hehe.

 

3) Richman estate

By this I mean the fortified manor where you find collectibles, one of which is a piece of the tract.

 

In the clue given by Marnie she hints of a worthy place for Kraff to dwell. I tried the “find your dead family” web page and got an interesting result when typing in Kraff Epsilon age 157. Unfortunately I did not write down the whole text (and I haven’t tried to do it again) but it referred to a Dr. Richmann (two N’s) saying he came from a wealthy family but left his family fortune in tatters after being electrocuted holding a metal rod in a thunder storm. This relates directly to the real world tragedy of Georg Wilhelm Richmann, ref http://en.wikipedia....ilhelm_Richmann . It is also interesting in the context of Nicola Tesla and the whole energy thing going on.

 

The richman estate also contains a FIB blue print, I have no idea what those are, but a clue of some sort I would think. Such blue prints are also located at pillbox underground station and the catfish village.

 

Hope this is of some use

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ana lill

oh, forgot to mention the most interesting part of Dr. Richmann. After the lightning bolt struck, he got a red spot on his forehead! This sounds like the red birthmark of the decendants of Kraff. Hardly a coincidence.

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neku_neku

 

Where did you see it and what were the conditions?

On the road below Mt Gordo that heads to the lighthouse, night time & i believe it was raining as i do remember struggling to control my vehicle on the road trying to high tail it outa there before it came after me. Cant give much concrete info (wish i could) because it was something i saw months ago before i even knew about the chiliad mystery. When it was mentioned on the last thread, i had seen another poster suggesting it was a part of a random event & so dismissed it as anything important. I am now trying to read back through that entire thread to see if i can find it.

 

 

there are 5 mission for air trafficking and 5 mission for ground trafficking. can you remember which one?

im on 100% and only done the 2nd mission for both. will try this later

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Barnumbir

Sorry to sound ignorant but who is Dr Richmann ?

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MrEZmoneymaker

 

there are 5 mission for air trafficking and 5 mission for ground trafficking. can you remember which one?

im on 100% and only done the 2nd mission for both. will try this later

 

5? i have done way more than 5. I did almost 20 of each, one after each other (did a few in the buggy then got bored so jumped in the plane & did a few then repeated). I did not know that these missions just kept going at the time so i was trying to complete them all when i saw the ufo. this is why i have no idea what exact mission it was :( this is also how i collected spaceship parts, letter scraps & knife flights etc. I did them all at the same time til i completed them. I did not bother about finding 1 here & there but collected them all in a sitting.

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POWA

I never saw the abduction scene in a station wagon & was trevor as i had made the pickup & was getting chased while heading back to the airfield. Others may have? i was in the dune buggy vehicle you use for those missions.

 

edited: also im only backing up another posters observations, as i know i saw this to. so im not saying it could lead to anything , but is a rare interaction with the ufo's tho.

 

I decided to do both vehicles since someone mentioned that maybe the station wagon could possibly be related given that there is a station wagon with the UFO on top of it. I figured I might as well try it since there are still plenty of hours at night after I get done with the arms mission.

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neku_neku

 

 

there are 5 mission for air trafficking and 5 mission for ground trafficking. can you remember which one?

im on 100% and only done the 2nd mission for both. will try this later

 

5? i have done way more than 5. I did almost 20 of each, one after each other (did a few in the buggy then got bored so jumped in the plane & did a few then repeated). I did not know that these missions just kept going at the time so i was trying to complete them all when i saw the ufo. this is why i have no idea what exact mission it was :( this is also how i collected spaceship parts, letter scraps & knife flights etc. I did them all at the same time til i completed them. I did not bother about finding 1 here & there but collected them all in a sitting.

 

based on social club 100% checklist, there are 5 missions for each air and ground trafficking. but i havent done it all since it's not required for normal 100%(social club 100%). i didnt mean that youre wrong because it maybe repeatable.

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I decided to do both vehicles since someone mentioned that maybe the station wagon could possibly be related given that there is a station wagon with the UFO on top of it. I figured I might as well try it since there are still plenty of hours at night after I get done with the arms mission.

 

Good idea! i understand the thoughts about the station wagon, as there are too many movie related eggs in this game not to. thought i would clarify what i was using at the time. Also theres the station wagon by the 4 random peds on the back road heading in that direction where i saw it.

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