ROCKSTAR MASS BANNING TO YOUTUBERS!

[MajorWhytey]

 

 

Cheating is not cheating in general.

There are soft cheats like using the trick to buy a cargobob and there are hacks (cheats) which are illegal at all.

They also are illegal in the real world.

Soft cheats then split into two groups again.

Cheats that disadavantage Non-Cheaters, and those who don't, buying a Cargobob is not directly a disadvantage for other players.

Exploited money is, players work hard to get it and some just don't work and just cheat.

Eh? You are defining cheating In to categories or levels of cheating?

 

You my friend have taken dumb to a new level.

If you don't know the law, just keep your mouth shut.

 

There are laws against altering network traffic, there is no law against glitching

 

Omg, are you 10 year old ? Bringing law into a video game. You are taking it to a whole new level. There are terms and conditions and codes of conduct. Cheating is a violation of these terms . And rockstar reserve the right to punish, suspend etc at their will. Cheating in whatever aspect breaks these terms . And therefore rockstar can ban, suspend said offender.

[Ch4071C]

 

 

 

Cheating is not cheating in general.

There are soft cheats like using the trick to buy a cargobob and there are hacks (cheats) which are illegal at all.

They also are illegal in the real world.

Soft cheats then split into two groups again.

Cheats that disadavantage Non-Cheaters, and those who don't, buying a Cargobob is not directly a disadvantage for other players.

Exploited money is, players work hard to get it and some just don't work and just cheat.

Eh? You are defining cheating In to categories or levels of cheating?

You my friend have taken dumb to a new level.

I do agree that not all people who did glitches abused them/should be punished.

God forbid someone drive a snowy car!

Neither am I. My point is, the ones that are gloating over someone being banned, are guilty of cheating themselves.

Whatever shape or however trivial it is, most are guilty of cheating in some respect.

So rather than point fingers and say so and so are ruining the game because of whatever.

I suspect the majority of the gloaters have had vehicles that shouldn't be stored in their garage. Tanks, jets, police vehicles etc from the early days. Sp to mp vehicles like franks buffalo and the never ending list of others.

Yeah go and gloat at the ones that got banned for cheating. Enjoy driving your modded into online buffalo and the likes. You are just as guilty as the rest of them/us.

DNS-Cheaters are guilty in real life laws, that is a difference.

 

If Rockstar wouldn't make a difference in Cheaters, we would have all long been banned, when we were gifted that money.

 

We cheated but didn't want to.

But hey ban all the players that glitched but didn't want to, players that just experienced a glitch, but did not abuse it.

[MajorWhytey]

 

 

 

Cheating is not cheating in general.

There are soft cheats like using the trick to buy a cargobob and there are hacks (cheats) which are illegal at all.

They also are illegal in the real world.

Soft cheats then split into two groups again.

Cheats that disadavantage Non-Cheaters, and those who don't, buying a Cargobob is not directly a disadvantage for other players.

Exploited money is, players work hard to get it and some just don't work and just cheat.

Eh? You are defining cheating In to categories or levels of cheating?

 

You my friend have taken dumb to a new level.

If you don't know the law, just keep your mouth shut.

 

There are laws against altering network traffic, there is no law against glitching

Omg, are you 10 year old ? Bringing law into a video game. You are taking it to a whole new level. There are terms and conditions and codes of conduct. Cheating is a violation of these terms . And rockstar reserve the right to punish, suspend etc at their will. Cheating in whatever aspect breaks these terms . And therefore rockstar can ban, suspend said offender.

 

 

 

 

 

No 'law' against glitching is quite possibly the dumbest and most immature comment I've ever heard.

[Ch4071C]

 

 

 

Cheating is not cheating in general.

There are soft cheats like using the trick to buy a cargobob and there are hacks (cheats) which are illegal at all.

They also are illegal in the real world.

Soft cheats then split into two groups again.

Cheats that disadavantage Non-Cheaters, and those who don't, buying a Cargobob is not directly a disadvantage for other players.

Exploited money is, players work hard to get it and some just don't work and just cheat.

Eh? You are defining cheating In to categories or levels of cheating?

 

You my friend have taken dumb to a new level.

If you don't know the law, just keep your mouth shut.

 

There are laws against altering network traffic, there is no law against glitching

Omg, are you 10 year old ? Bringing law into a video game. You are taking it to a whole new level. There are terms and conditions and codes of conduct. Cheating is a violation of these terms . And rockstar reserve the right to punish, suspend etc at their will. Cheating in whatever aspect breaks these terms . And therefore rockstar can ban, suspend said offender.God you must be 10 years old thinking the internet is a law free zone. 5-10 years is the punishment for this.

 

There is a difference between LAW and TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

 

Grow up

Edited February 2, 2014 by Ch4071C

[AdmiralAmmunation]

 

 

 

Cheating is not cheating in general.

There are soft cheats like using the trick to buy a cargobob and there are hacks (cheats) which are illegal at all.

They also are illegal in the real world.

Soft cheats then split into two groups again.

Cheats that disadavantage Non-Cheaters, and those who don't, buying a Cargobob is not directly a disadvantage for other players.

Exploited money is, players work hard to get it and some just don't work and just cheat.

Eh? You are defining cheating In to categories or levels of cheating?

You my friend have taken dumb to a new level.

I do agree that not all people who did glitches abused them/should be punished.

God forbid someone drive a snowy car!

Neither am I. My point is, the ones that are gloating over someone being banned, are guilty of cheating themselves.

Whatever shape or however trivial it is, most are guilty of cheating in some respect.

So rather than point fingers and say so and so are ruining the game because of whatever.

I suspect the majority of the gloaters have had vehicles that shouldn't be stored in their garage. Tanks, jets, police vehicles etc from the early days. Sp to mp vehicles like franks buffalo and the never ending list of others.

Yeah go and gloat at the ones that got banned for cheating. Enjoy driving your modded into online buffalo and the likes. You are just as guilty as the rest of them/us.

Ah, I see your point. Pointing out the hypocrites.

[MajorWhytey]

 

 

 

 

Cheating is not cheating in general.

There are soft cheats like using the trick to buy a cargobob and there are hacks (cheats) which are illegal at all.

They also are illegal in the real world.

Soft cheats then split into two groups again.

Cheats that disadavantage Non-Cheaters, and those who don't, buying a Cargobob is not directly a disadvantage for other players.

Exploited money is, players work hard to get it and some just don't work and just cheat.

Eh? You are defining cheating In to categories or levels of cheating?

 

You my friend have taken dumb to a new level.

If you don't know the law, just keep your mouth shut.

 

There are laws against altering network traffic, there is no law against glitching

Omg, are you 10 year old ? Bringing law into a video game. You are taking it to a whole new level. There are terms and conditions and codes of conduct. Cheating is a violation of these terms . And rockstar reserve the right to punish, suspend etc at their will. Cheating in whatever aspect breaks these terms . And therefore rockstar can ban, suspend said offender.God you must be 10 years old thinking the internet is a law free zone. 5-10 years is the punishment for this.

 

There is a difference between LAW and TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

 

Grow up

 

 

You are contradicting yourself. You are saying DNS modifying is breaking the law.

But by willfully glitching and cheating in a video game is fine, because you are not breaking any laws is fine? Yeah it may not be state or national law, but it's breaking the terms of service of the game.

If you are taking this to a national level of law then you are a complete moron.

It's a video game. Bound by terms and conditions. Eula, and codes of practice . Break these and you are just as guilty as anyone else. You have just made yourself sound like a complete retard. And we all know you should never go full retard.

[Ch4071C]

 

 

 

 

 

Cheating is not cheating in general.

There are soft cheats like using the trick to buy a cargobob and there are hacks (cheats) which are illegal at all.

They also are illegal in the real world.

Soft cheats then split into two groups again.

Cheats that disadavantage Non-Cheaters, and those who don't, buying a Cargobob is not directly a disadvantage for other players.

Exploited money is, players work hard to get it and some just don't work and just cheat.

Eh? You are defining cheating In to categories or levels of cheating?

 

You my friend have taken dumb to a new level.

If you don't know the law, just keep your mouth shut.

 

There are laws against altering network traffic, there is no law against glitching

Omg, are you 10 year old ? Bringing law into a video game. You are taking it to a whole new level. There are terms and conditions and codes of conduct. Cheating is a violation of these terms . And rockstar reserve the right to punish, suspend etc at their will. Cheating in whatever aspect breaks these terms . And therefore rockstar can ban, suspend said offender.God you must be 10 years old thinking the internet is a law free zone. 5-10 years is the punishment for this.

 

There is a difference between LAW and TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

 

Grow up

You are contradicting yourself. You are saying DNS modifying is breaking the law.

But by willfully glitching and cheating in a video game is fine, because you are not breaking any laws is fine? Yeah it may not be state or national law, but it's breaking the terms of service of the game.

If you are taking this to a national level of law then you are a complete moron.

It's a video game. Bound by terms and conditions. Eula, and codes of practice . Break these and you are just as guilty as anyone else. You have just made yourself sound like a complete retard. And we all know you should never go full retard.

You are the most stupid person I've ever read.

 

Breaking Terms and Conditions: Rockstar can exclude you from online gameplay. You won't get jailed

 

Running a false DNS Server: Rockstar would be able to proceed against the people that run these DNS servers. You may get jailed

Edited February 2, 2014 by Ch4071C

[DeathByGenocide]

I have no problem with cheaters & glitchers, if it doesn't affect me they can do as they wish, but to post evidence of your "crimes" is plain f*cking stupid.

 

atleast without public knowledge glitches will be around for longer as they are harder to find!

[MajorWhytey]

We are getting away from the basics. It's a video game. Cheating in a video game may come with consequences by said publisher.

DNS modifying is cheating, whether if be in a video game or any other scenario. And therefore should be/may be liable to be investigated by the controlling factor.

Getting back to game level. Cheating is punishable by the publisher of said product as stated.

For you to say cheating is fine as it doesn't break the law, but DNS modding does, is quite funny to be honest. To say one is fine, but the other isn't is quite comical. The rules of the publisher exist, and to break their rules may come with consequences.

 

Either way, it's still cheating the game. Which is what we are talking about. To start mentioning breaking laws and be punishable by imprisonment is a whole different story.

 

 

To say 'I cheat' because I'm not breaking any laws is retarded. You are breaking the laws of the publishers content.

[j0hn_d0e]

Did I read that right ?

 

DNS changing is an actual crime ?

 

Like, manslaughter or drug dealing ?

 

Man, I need more Buckie.

[Ch4071C]

Did I read that right ?

 

DNS changing is an actual crime ?

 

Like, manslaughter or drug dealing ?

 

Man, I need more Buckie.

Yes it is. Fake DNS is often used to redirect people to false bank websites. So they made a law against it. There are no exceptions.

 

I never said that other cheats are fine. But some are worse than other cheats. Glitching millions is worse than getting a cargobob. DNS cheating is even against real laws.

 

Laws > Terms of Use

DNS > Glitch > Trick

 

The Cargobob trick looks like it was done on purpose. 185.000$ is just a joke

[j0hn_d0e]

 

Did I read that right ?

 

DNS changing is an actual crime ?

 

Like, manslaughter or drug dealing ?

 

Man, I need more Buckie.

Yes it is. Fake DNS is often used to redirect people to false bank websites. So they made a law against it. There are no exceptions.

 

I never said that other cheats are fine. But some are worse than other cheats. Glitching millions is worse than getting a cargobob. DNS cheating is even against real laws.

 

Laws > Terms of Use

DNS > Glitch > Trick

 

The Cargobob trick looks like it was done on purpose. 185.000$ is just a joke

 

 

So, it it's that "bad", why does Microsoft let you change them ?

 

 

Actually - as you know so much about it, exactly which law am I breaking if I was to change my DNS ?

 

Scots Law mind...

[helresa]

By using a hacked dns server to redirect traffic intended for Rockstar servers to another location you could be in violation of the computer misuse act, which I think can into UK law in the late 90s. As for the Us and other countries I would expect there to be similar anti hacking legislation.

[MajorWhytey]

 

Did I read that right ?

 

DNS changing is an actual crime ?

 

Like, manslaughter or drug dealing ?

 

Man, I need more Buckie.

Yes it is. Fake DNS is often used to redirect people to false bank websites. So they made a law against it. There are no exceptions.

 

I never said that other cheats are fine. But some are worse than other cheats. Glitching millions is worse than getting a cargobob. DNS cheating is even against real laws.

 

Laws > Terms of Use

DNS > Glitch > Trick

 

The Cargobob trick looks like it was done on purpose. 185.000$ is just a joke

 

 

So basically you are saying that cheating comes in different levels?

 

Some cheating is ok, but other levels isn't?

[Ch4071C]

 

 

 

Did I read that right ?

 

DNS changing is an actual crime ?

 

Like, manslaughter or drug dealing ?

 

Man, I need more Buckie.

Yes it is. Fake DNS is often used to redirect people to false bank websites. So they made a law against it. There are no exceptions.

 

I never said that other cheats are fine. But some are worse than other cheats. Glitching millions is worse than getting a cargobob. DNS cheating is even against real laws.

 

Laws > Terms of Use

DNS > Glitch > Trick

 

The Cargobob trick looks like it was done on purpose. 185.000$ is just a joke

 

So, it it's that "bad", why does Microsoft let you change them ?

 

 

Actually - as you know so much about it, exactly which law am I breaking if I was to change my DNS ?

 

Scots Law mind...

This option is for DNS problems, but just for official DNS servers. Do you run a fake DNS server on your own? It's a law against using the fake DNS to redirect others and altering traffic in a way the developer didn't want it to be altered.

As a person that just uses the fake dns, you may just be a cheater (So Terms of Agreement). Setting up your Notebook to alter traffic (Law). Running DNS to redirect others and alter network packages (2 Laws)

 

@MajorWhytey: Just get it once and for all. Cheating is bad, some cheats are worse

Edited February 2, 2014 by Ch4071C

[RAS_ZeroZ]

I'm dialing 9-1-1 right away!!

[Ch4071C]

By using a hacked dns server to redirect traffic intended for Rockstar servers to another location you could be in violation of the computer misuse act, which I think can into UK law in the late 90s. As for the Us and other countries I would expect there to be similar anti hacking legislation.

This. Cheats are bad, some are worse.

Edited February 2, 2014 by Ch4071C

[MajorWhytey]

 

 

 

 

Did I read that right ?

 

DNS changing is an actual crime ?

 

Like, manslaughter or drug dealing ?

 

Man, I need more Buckie.

Yes it is. Fake DNS is often used to redirect people to false bank websites. So they made a law against it. There are no exceptions.

 

I never said that other cheats are fine. But some are worse than other cheats. Glitching millions is worse than getting a cargobob. DNS cheating is even against real laws.

 

Laws > Terms of Use

DNS > Glitch > Trick

 

The Cargobob trick looks like it was done on purpose. 185.000$ is just a joke

 

So, it it's that "bad", why does Microsoft let you change them ?

 

 

Actually - as you know so much about it, exactly which law am I breaking if I was to change my DNS ?

 

Scots Law mind...

This option is for DNS problems, but just for official DNS servers. Do you run a fake DNS server on your own? It's a law against using the fake DNS to redirect others and altering traffic in a way the developer didn't want it to be altered.

As a person that just uses the fake dns, you may just be a cheater (So Terms of Agreement). Setting up your Notebook to alter traffic (Law). Running DNS to redirect others and alter network packages (2 Laws)

 

@MajorWhytey: Just get it once and for all. Cheating is bad, some cheats are worse

 

 

So what crime is some little kid who saw a video on YouTube and changed his DNS setting on his xbox to gain some advantage in a video game.

[j0hn_d0e]

For the love of God.

 

Changing your DNS settings to access a game server is NOT against the law

 

Signed

 

A Lawyer.

[MajorWhytey]

 

By using a hacked dns server to redirect traffic intended for Rockstar servers to another location you could be in violation of the computer misuse act, which I think can into UK law in the late 90s. As for the Us and other countries I would expect there to be similar anti hacking legislation.

This. Cheats are bad, some are worse.

 

 

Cheats are cheats buddy. They are defined by using or doing something to recreate a different result than intended. Glitching millions of in game dollars in a video game. Is cheating. Simple as.

 

DNS is cheating. Glitching is cheating. To say one is worse than the other is correct. However both break the publishers terms of service and are therefore defined as cheating.

 

To say it's ok to do one, and not the other is bizarre.

[Ch4071C]

It's is against the Terms of Use from Rockstar and also against the law because they used a fake DNS to alter their network traffic in a way Rockstar didn't mean it to be altered.

[Zwenkwiel]

Ch4071C, on 02 Feb 2014 - 3:20 PM, said:

 

_d3xt3r_, on 02 Feb 2014 - 3:12 PM, said:

Did I read that right ?

 

DNS changing is an actual crime ?

 

Like, manslaughter or drug dealing ?

 

Man, I need more Buckie.

Yes it is. Fake DNS is often used to redirect people to false bank websites. So they made a law against it. There are no exceptions.

 

I never said that other cheats are fine. But some are worse than other cheats. Glitching millions is worse than getting a cargobob. DNS cheating is even against real laws.

 

Laws > Terms of Use

DNS > Glitch > Trick

 

The Cargobob trick looks like it was done on purpose. 185.000$ is just a joke

 

 

I doubt using a dns server is illegal

I can change my DNS to whatever the hell I want

running one might be a different story since you are using R*'s intellectual property and whatnot

but as far as redirecting traffic, how is it illegal when people willingly connect to your server?

[WBaker]

I seriously doubt the cargobob is a "trick" since the same method can bypass the level restrictions on vehicles and purchase CE content.

 

Although as far as it being cheating, it has to be the most harmless glitch there is.

[Ch4071C]

 

 

By using a hacked dns server to redirect traffic intended for Rockstar servers to another location you could be in violation of the computer misuse act, which I think can into UK law in the late 90s. As for the Us and other countries I would expect there to be similar anti hacking legislation.

This. Cheats are bad, some are worse.

Cheats are cheats buddy. They are defined by using or doing something to recreate a different result than intended. Glitching millions of in game dollars in a video game. Is cheating. Simple as.

 

DNS is cheating. Glitching is cheating. To say one is worse than the other is correct. However both break the publishers terms of service and are therefore defined as cheating.

 

To say it's ok to do one, and not the other is bizarre.

All cheats are against the terms of agreement.

But after that you can look at the moral of it.

 

Do you care when players drink their gun?

Most won't care if you buy a cargobob.

Most will care if you get billions through duplicating your cars.

 

The only important thing is, if Rockstar cares about it. They care if the community cares and if they sell less shark cards from these exploits.

 

@WBaker: In SP the cargobob costs 2.000.000$, In MP 185.000$, the Maze Bank uses the POST Method (More security), the other websites use the GET Method (Totally unsecure). This looks like it was done on purpose. Rockstar can also change prizes in seconds. They did with the Dune Buggy.

Edited February 2, 2014 by Ch4071C

[Jeffers123]

Whichever chump said you could go to jail f*cking LOL to that comment! Cba scrolling back to find it but wow, you obviously never leave your room

[Furry_Monkey]

It's is against the Terms of Use from Rockstar and also against the law because they used a fake DNS to alter their network traffic in a way Rockstar didn't mean it to be altered.

 

Finally, a sentence where you didn't call it illegal.

 

It is not against the law to set up or use your own DNS server. To suggest that it is is beyond stupidity. Doing so allows you to do things that *are* against the law, but the actual DNS server itself is not.

[MajorWhytey]

I seriously doubt the cargobob is a "trick" since the same method can bypass the level restrictions on vehicles and purchase CE content.

 

Although as far as it being cheating, it has to be the most harmless glitch there is.

 

Tell that to the ones that paid extra money to own the collectors edition vehicles. Only to realise that anyone can get them. I wouldn't call that harmless

[WBaker]

 

I seriously doubt the cargobob is a "trick" since the same method can bypass the level restrictions on vehicles and purchase CE content.

Although as far as it being cheating, it has to be the most harmless glitch there is.

Tell that to the ones that paid extra money to own the collectors edition vehicles. Only to realise that anyone can get them. I wouldn't call that harmless

I agree, I meant the cargobob is harmless. It should have been purchasable without a glitch.

[MajorWhytey]

 

 

I seriously doubt the cargobob is a "trick" since the same method can bypass the level restrictions on vehicles and purchase CE content.

Although as far as it being cheating, it has to be the most harmless glitch there is.

Tell that to the ones that paid extra money to own the collectors edition vehicles. Only to realise that anyone can get them. I wouldn't call that harmless

I agree, I meant the cargobob is harmless. It should have been purchasable without a glitch.

 

 

Oh yeah I agree there. It's rather silly if you ask me.

But to determine what is harmless and what isn't by using the same cheat to gain the item. Is cheating, harmless or not!

[MajorWhytey]

Anyway, to lighten the mood.

 

sh*t dick...you hear me? sh*t dick