Trevor was too over the top

[Aleph-Zero]

I think trevor was meant to be a "you either hate him or love him" type of character. So he had to be exaggerated.

[Official General]

Does anyone else think Trevor would have been a much better character if he was toned down a bit? I loved the few earlier parts of the game where he spoke normally instead of raging all the time. Even when you hang out with him he is always yelling or ranting about something. If he talked normal but still had that psychopath aspect, then he would have been perfect

 

Yep, definitely.

 

If all of his bullsh*t was not there, I might have liked him more. There was really no need for all that stupidness like the cross-dressing, possible sexual bullying/bisexual advances, it was not needed. I just don't see what's so special about him anyway. Oh wait, he's real crazy and insane, that makes him such and incredible character.

 

@ Son Of Liberty

 

 

Anyway his weird crush on Patricia is so corny and lame. I couldn't believe R* would even put something like that into one of their stories.

 

This

 

That was some real weak bullsh*t right there. I remember seeing all that and thinking, "are Rockstar serious" ?

Edited February 1, 2014 by Official General

[Lil ski]

I dont mind the psychoticness but the whole cannibalism and dressing in women's clothing thing just grossed me the f*ck away from him.

[BeLikeMike]

He is much more complex than people think.

I thought Trevor was as basic as a character can get. Any problem he had he tried to solve by killing. The O'Neils stealing business? Kill them. The Azteccas giving him competition? Kill them. Having trouble with the bikers? Kill them. His motivation and thought process always seemed the same. Kill or be killed.

[thatGuyyy]

 

He is much more complex than people think.

I thought Trevor was as basic as a character can get. Any problem he had he tried to solve by killing. The O'Neils stealing business? Kill them. The Azteccas giving him competition? Kill them. Having trouble with the bikers? Kill them. His motivation and thought process always seemed the same. Kill or be killed.

 

 

He wasn't deep at all. It seems like R* just thought of everything terrible about humankind and infused all of those traits into Trevor. He is nothing but scum the way I see it

 

Loyalty doesn't mean sh*t when you're constantly killing/raping people that don't deserve it

Edited February 1, 2014 by thatGuyyy

[I Am NADA]

Some may be confusing "psychosis" with "drug-induced schizophrenia."

 

Trevor suffers from the latter.

 

Not really. He isn't suffering under any delusions. He just sees the world in his own twisted terms. But its not like he thinks secret police are stealing his thoughts, or that the US government has done medical experiments on him that allow him to see secret code in colored lights. Ron is a schizo, Trevor is not.

 

Trevor has a vague form of anti-social personality disorder, and a self destructive, almost suicidal disposition.

[BeLikeMike]

 

 

He is much more complex than people think.

I thought Trevor was as basic as a character can get. Any problem he had he tried to solve by killing. The O'Neils stealing business? Kill them. The Azteccas giving him competition? Kill them. Having trouble with the bikers? Kill them. His motivation and thought process always seemed the same. Kill or be killed.

 

 

He wasn't deep at all. It seems like R* just thought of everything terrible about humankind and infused all of those traits into Trevor. He is nothing but scum the way I see it

 

Loyalty doesn't mean sh*t when you're constantly killing/raping people that don't deserve it

 

There were times where he made me laugh but he was simple. Like the rest he was in it for the money but I felt like satisfying his blood lust was a major part of why he was in the game. I'm not opposed to a savage protagonist but they over did it with T.

[thatGuyyy]

 

There were times where he made me laugh but he was simple. Like the rest he was in it for the money but I felt like satisfying his blood lust was a major part of why he was in the game. I'm not opposed to a savage protagonist but they over did it with T.

 

 

Just glad he isn't the only protag. If he was I doubt I would finish the game

[Algonquin Assassin]

 

There were times where he made me laugh but he was simple. Like the rest he was in it for the money but I felt like satisfying his blood lust was a major part of why he was in the game. I'm not opposed to a savage protagonist but they over did it with T.

 

Just glad he isn't the only protag. If he was I doubt I would finish the game

I've said this before, but he'd never work well as a single protagonist. Michael would with ease and so would Franklin (he just needs more depth), but Trevor? If I had to put up with him for 69 missions I think I would neck myself. He's a contrast to Michael and Franklin, but I'd hate it if he was the only one.

 

I also fail to see how he's complex. People always say "we've never had anyone like him before" and I can't dispute that. We've never had a Canadian crossdresser who likes to spoon with men and get drunk in his underwear before however I don't see it as a compliment.

 

I don't know I just don't see the appeal in him. If this really was R*s way of representing the average GTA player I'm glad I'm more in favour of the lifestyle Michael and Franklin have respectively of course.

[BeLikeMike]

 

 

There were times where he made me laugh but he was simple. Like the rest he was in it for the money but I felt like satisfying his blood lust was a major part of why he was in the game. I'm not opposed to a savage protagonist but they over did it with T.

 

 

Just glad he isn't the only protag. If he was I doubt I would finish the game

 

At one point my Trevor usage was 11% so I'm right there with you.

[thatGuyyy]

 

 

There were times where he made me laugh but he was simple. Like the rest he was in it for the money but I felt like satisfying his blood lust was a major part of why he was in the game. I'm not opposed to a savage protagonist but they over did it with T.

Just glad he isn't the only protag. If he was I doubt I would finish the game

I've said this before, but he'd never work well as a single protagonist. Michael would with ease and so would Franklin (he just needs more depth), but Trevor? If I had to put up with him for 69 missions I think I would neck myself. He's a contrast to Michael and Franklin, but I'd hate it if he was the only one.

 

I also fail to see how he's complex. People always say "we've never had anyone like him before" and I can't dispute that. We've never had a Canadian crossdresser who likes to spoon with men and get drunk in his underwear before however I don't see it as a compliment.

 

I don't know I just don't see the appeal in him. If this really was R*s way of representing the average GTA player I'm glad I'm more in favour of the lifestyle Michael and Franklin have respectively of course.

 

 

Michael was such a fascinating character, he should have been the only protag. I feel like they wasted his potential by using three characters

[Mightymomo22]

Trevor is Awesome . Michael aswell when he's no pissed . I'm glad no more cheating from Amanda. Trevor is really Funny Expecically when he misses at Golf.

[Dick Justice]

Can't I just like him because he had some of the best missions in the game?

 

I agree, at times he was too much. He was the ultimate id character, he does things just because he can. He was the alter-ego of Michael, who wanted to slow everything down all the time, Trevor wanted to go full-on 100 miles an hour. It created a balance in the game which I think worked well. Too much Michael and the game would have been slow, too much Trevor and it would have been over-the-top insane. He's more complex than most people give him credit for, which still doesn't make him a particularly deep character.

 

Before Trevor, it had been a while since we were given a chance to play as a truly horrible protagonist in a Rockstar game. Ever since San Andreas, all Rockstar protagonists had these weakly-written redeemable qualities that don't work well outside of the story - Niko trying to go straight, CJ hating drugs (even Franklin hating gang-banging didn't work). Whereas Trevor was an irredeemable character, which I personally believe was a breath of fresh air.

[jatiger13]

 

Anyway his weird crush on Patricia is so corny and lame. I couldn't believe R* would even put something like that into one of their stories.

 

 

Trevor had mom issues. I think he saw Patricia as a motherly person. It seems like she filled a hole in is life that his mom had left. And that might be the reason he had a crush on her.

Patricia was almost like a substitute-mom. I don't think Trevors attraction to her was sexual.

 

Trevor isn't my favorite GTA V character, but he is more complex than people think.

Edited February 1, 2014 by jatiger13

[SmoothGetaway]

Trevor is a try hard dude. I really don't understand why R* thought it'd be a good idea to personify a rampage character. After all, we as players always end up wreaking havoc at some point in free roam.

 

Personally I don't need a character to justify my killing sprees...all GTA protags are psychos.

[Smith John]

 

 

I don't see why people dislike Trevor. He's everything a GTA protagonist should be.

 

he's everything a person shouldn't be, a piece of sh*t

 

One of my favorite things about GTA V is that instead of it causing controversy in the media, it caused controversy among the - "fans" - of the game. Especially with the whole Johnny thing too.

 

So congratulations. You're the desired reaction. Nice job on this really deep and difficult breakdown of the character. Really, you've outdone yourself OP. Give yourself a nice 'ol pat on the back and go drink some hot cocoa!

 

Excellent comment. Shame it's being overlooked by the usual collective.

[SmoothGetaway]

^^^

 

That seems a little self congratulatory...just saying. I see Trevor for what he is...a teddy bear sniffing psycho.

 

Not that being a psycho is all that revolutionary in GTA...btw causing controversy isn't anything special, it just means R* are doing what they always do.

 

Sometimes it works, and other times it doesn't. Props to them for sticking to their guns, but it's perplexing that a personified rampage would become a character.

 

Isn't that all GTA characters?

Edited February 1, 2014 by SmoothGetaway

[Official General]

 

 

 

I don't see why people dislike Trevor. He's everything a GTA protagonist should be.

 

he's everything a person shouldn't be, a piece of sh*t

 

One of my favorite things about GTA V is that instead of it causing controversy in the media, it caused controversy among the - "fans" - of the game. Especially with the whole Johnny thing too.

 

So congratulations. You're the desired reaction. Nice job on this really deep and difficult breakdown of the character. Really, you've outdone yourself OP. Give yourself a nice 'ol pat on the back and go drink some hot cocoa!

 

Excellent comment. Shame it's being overlooked by the usual collective.

Why does it mean that because many of us don't like Trevor, it must mean we are 'overlooking' something good in him ? You can paint a picture of how supposedly 'deep' and 'interesting' he is, or because someone like him has not been done before in GTA - the fact remains, many people (including myself) don't like him and wished he was never in the game. It's all well and good for Trevor fans to point this all out, but we're not interested either way. The bottom line is that many people really disliked his character, they just were not feeling it, end of - no one overlooked anything.

 

I don't see why it's so hard for guys like you to just accept Trevor has turned out to very unpopular and disliked by a significant proportion of GTA fans. So just because we don't agree with your tastes, we've overlooked things ? Don't be so pathetic.

[Xerukal]

Actually, he's the most popular out of the three in terms of mainstream appeal outside of these forums. Clearly, there is a preference for Michael around here. And that's fine. Because that's why the multiple protagonist system exists. You can have your favorites and least favorites and that's what's fun about it.

 

This thread isn't really about if you like him or not (as a character or person, doesn't matter). It's questioning if his performance as a character was too over the top, right? Personally, I can see how people can find him tiring, most certainly. But personally, I don't. Because I've had a taste of his brand of overblown, exaggerated chaos well before he was conceived as a character for GTA V, thanks to previous personal experience and a touch of general mental instability.

 

I'm one of the only people who can relate to him thanks to similar impulsive tendencies and personality mixes. But certainly not anywhere near his capacity for violence and crimes against nature.

 

And no, I don't think I'm super cool for sharing qualities with someone like him. In fact, it's worrying. As it should be. But I like it. It's fun.

Edited February 1, 2014 by Xerukal

[Smith John]

^^^

 

That seems a little self congratulatory...just saying. I see Trevor for what he is...a teddy bear sniffing psycho.

 

Not that being a psycho is all that revolutionary in GTA...btw causing controversy isn't anything special, it just means R* are doing what they always do.

 

Sometimes it works, and other times it doesn't. Props to them for sticking to their guns, but it's perplexing that a personified rampage would become a character.

 

Isn't that all GTA characters?

With all due respect, I'm not quite sure you got the cusp of the point cp1dell was trying to make. Yes controversy has always come hand in hand with any GTA, but never has a protag kicked up quite a stink to this degree with a certain segment of the actual fans. The 'Johnny' fans for example, or those guys around here who felt Trevor was too violent and didn't shampoo his hair enough, or the bigots who keep bringing up his apparent bisexual tendencies as a reason to dislike him. Never has a protag in the series had such an affect in this manner before, and the reaction and discussion it has provoked is probably exactly what R* were looking to create when developing a character that will most certainly go down as one of the most memorable in this great franchise.

 

@General

 

You really do struggle to put something across without having to tip it off with a little cheap dig, huh?...it really does render your retorts void chief.

Edited February 1, 2014 by Lucchese

[The4orTy67]

He falls flat when compared to Peter Parker and other Marvel characters.

[Xerukal]

He falls flat when compared to Peter Parker and other Marvel characters.

Toby Maguire rivals CJ.

[Captain Arthur]

SoL, embrace yourself as you know whos coming...

If he guessed the one, and only, Gta V Fan 101 then he is correctamundo! I'm baaaack!!

 

 

IMO he's overrated. Sure there are moments where he provides comic relief, but I agree that the way he's agitated, loud and restless most of the time gets on my nerves. There are the odd moments where he behaves like a rational human being, but what I described above is the bulk of his personality. Not really to my liking.

 

Anyway his weird crush on Patricia is so corny and lame. I couldn't believe R* would even put something like that into one of their stories.

 

In my current save he's my least played character. The only time I ever really use him is when I want to complete his unique Strangers & Freaks missions or arms trafficking. Michael and Franklin are far better characters to me.

He's like that because of meth. Can't you remember Seth from RDR? Now that character is WAAAAAY over the top.

 

Hehe, exceeeuse me but isn't a virgin with brothers who are all criminals even MORE corny?

 

Anyslut, I composed this song just for you. 'Cause I like ya a lot.

 

SOL SOL HE'S THE BEST. BEST WHAT? FANBOY ON EARTH. WHO IS? SON! OF! LIBERTY! HAAAAAAAY!

 

God that was so embarrassing.

[nitrousoxide]

trevor is dumbass

[Captain Arthur]

Why does it mean that because many of us don't like Trevor, it must mean we are 'overlooking' something good in him ? You can paint a picture of how supposedly 'deep' and 'interesting' he is, or because someone like him has not been done before in GTA - the fact remains, many people (including myself) don't like him and wished he was never in the game. It's all well and good for Trevor fans to point this all out, but we're not interested either way. The bottom line is that many people really disliked his character, they just were not feeling it, end of - no one overlooked anything.

 

I don't see why it's so hard for guys like you to just accept Trevor has turned out to very unpopular and disliked by a significant proportion of GTA fans. So just because we don't agree with your tastes, we've overlooked things ? Don't be so pathetic.

A significant proportion?

 

 

 

 

 

And almost all the other polls I could find resulted in Trevor being in second place.

[BLOOD]

Trevor is Awesome . Michael aswell when he's no pissed . I'm glad no more cheating from Amanda. Trevor is really Funny Expecically when he misses at Golf.

Lol ikr

[Algonquin Assassin]

Why do people keep saying he's more complex than we think? I've played through GTA V 3 times and about to finish a 4th, but I don't see where these "complexity " claims are coming from. Complex in what way exactly?

 

GTA V fan: I didn't think Seth was over the top. Infact his character fitted in nicely with the dying west theme of RDR. He's no more over the top than say Eddie Low in GTA IV.

[Captain Arthur]

Why do people keep saying he's more complex than we think? I've played through GTA V 3 times and about to finish a 4th, but I don't see where these "complexity " claims are coming from. Complex in what way exactly?

 

GTA V fan: I didn't think Seth was over the top. Infact his character fitted in nicely with the dying west theme of RDR. He's no more over the top than say Eddie Low in GTA IV.

I'm not sure but I think they mean that there's a lot more to the character than we think. This is a quote from your spouse, DeafMetal.

 

I think Michael and Trevor were handled beautifully.

 

Here's how I see it:

 

Trevor represents childhood. Trevor is selfish, like a child. He'll throw a hissy fit when he doesn't get what he wants. He loves living in an endless adventure, robbing banks being his, even to the point where it becomes a fantasy; he doesn't understand that if he keeps doing it, he will die. Just one little thing going wrong and all of the crew is dead. But it's a game to him. He's also very loyal to his friends, especially to his best friend. Don't know about any of you guys, but when I was a kid, my best friend always got picked on, and I'd always come to defend him. I got into a few fights because of him lol Trevor would defend Michael to the death, and even when he says he hates him and when he knows what he's done to him, he always knows he'll love him, and wouldn't be able to take the shot when the time came.

 

Michael represents adulthood. He has responsibilities. He has a wife and kids to look after. He can't live in the fantasy world with his best friend anymore; he has something to lose now. When we're young, we're prone to not give a sh*t; we go from job to job if we don't like the one before. But once you have people who depend on you, you just suck it up and deal with it; you can't live that life anymore, because you have kids who would starve if you're not there earning money. Michael wanted to go back to the fantasy with Trevor, but he knew he couldn't anymore because he had a family: "I wanna be a good dad, love my family... live the dream. But at the same time, I really want the other stuff too."

 

It's not that he doesn't love Trevor, it's that he knows that Trevor never grew up. He knows Trevor will get him killed eventually. He knows that Trevor is selfish and violent, and he's not willing to take a chance and jeopardize his family's safety and well-being. As much as it pains him, his gut reaction is that he needs to put him down, because Trevor is too loyal to let him go. Trevor's like the family dog who's grown ravenous towards everyone over the years except for the family, especially not towards the father who's had him longer -- what would your gut be telling you to do with the dog if you had impressionable, naive kids? My sister had a dog like this -- he was loyal to the end to my brother-in-law, but he was very aggressive to everyone except him and the family; but once he started to bark at my nephew, my brother-in-law went to put him down; he took him to animal control and held him through the whole thing. He f*ckin' cried, a grown man.

 

So in a way, I think they both appeal to us in a very intimate level. We can side with Trevor because the little kid inside of us who's loyal to the end is still there. But we can side with Michael because we've grown up. We know that's not how the world works anymore.

This is what they mean I think.

[I Am NADA]

GTA V fan: I didn't think Seth was over the top. Infact his character fitted in nicely with the dying west theme of RDR. He's no more over the top than say Eddie Low in GTA IV.

 

You're kidding, right? What Old West are you familiar with where you see emaciated lunatics having "friendships" with corpses? He's far more over the top than Trevor ever will be. Also, I mentioned him on the first page and someone is just discussing him now? He's the best Rockstar character to compare Trevor to.

 

Also, I don't see why people like Michael so much. He's so full of self-pity sometimes I can't stand him. In general I like him, but some cutscenes make me want to say "Shut up already, you whiny pussy".

[Charles Phipps]

Does anyone else think Trevor would have been a much better character if he was toned down a bit? I loved the few earlier parts of the game where he spoke normally instead of raging all the time. Even when you hang out with him he is always yelling or ranting about something. If he talked normal but still had that psychopath aspect, then he would have been perfect

I think if he was toned down, he wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable because all of the horrible stuff he does would be "real" versus mass murder of hipsters.