The GTA V beta hunt

[fluffball]

gat onlin thingy 
 

seems to be the only one from the pre heists days

 

[Matushka]

On 3/1/2023 at 12:57 AM, TheGodDamnMasterReturns said:

Fascinating. Where is this from?

In-game? Looks like mirror park.

Screenshot itself? No idea.

 

[PauloJz]

On 2/26/2023 at 8:36 PM, otherbadfurday said:

I found the picture I was talking about.  

The lighting from the sun is very reminiscent of the 2011 trailer lighting. It was probably taken that year.

[HeySlickThatsMe]

Xbox 360 Minigun model has this unused texture file called "w_mg_minigun_barrelw_mg_minigun_barrel_a".

 

Technically it is used but you can't even see it, due to it being inside the barrel mesh:

 

To me it looks like they wanted the minigun barrels to look like they're very hot when shooting, maybe it was cut because they couldn't implement it properly? It also uses emissive shader with intensity of 4 so clearly it was supposed to glow.

 

The old minigun model also features a rail below the handle, while both PC and Oldgen feature a WAPFlshLasr bone, presumably for the laser attachment.

 

[Matushka]

 

11 hours ago, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Xbox 360 Minigun model has this unused texture file called "w_mg_minigun_barrelw_mg_minigun_barrel_a".

 

Technically it is used but you can't even see it, due to it being inside the barrel mesh:

 

To me it looks like they wanted the minigun barrels to look like they're very hot when shooting, maybe it was cut because they couldn't implement it properly? It also uses emissive shader with intensity of 4 so clearly it was supposed to glow.

 

The old minigun model also features a rail below the handle, while both PC and Oldgen feature a WAPFlshLasr bone, presumably for the laser attachment.

 

Bro we need to restore laser sights, we have everything we just need a script to plug the gap in the rendering code.

[Teal]

On 2/24/2023 at 8:26 PM, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Rockstar cut 33 hand rings in total from both Ill Gotten Gains DLC's, i always remembered browsing through the DLC Packs on PC version and found bunch of 1kb teef files, it looks like the models are still present on xbox360 version of the game.

I won't be showing all of them but here's a handful, each model has three types - left hand, right hand and both hands + sometimes additional color variants:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

//Edit what the f*ck - the first part of the DLC has Heavy Rifle weapon animations on xbox 360!

[email protected]@[email protected]
[email protected]@[email protected]_str.xcd
[email protected]@[email protected]@heavy.xcd

Is there anybody here that has a modded xbox or can emulate the game and find some sort of trainer that can play animations by inputting the name manually? One of anim names is reload_aim in the _str dictionary

 

//edit Thanks to @Tervel1337 we now have a video of the early Heavy Rifle reload anim!

https://streamable.com/lugfy7

Why do I have the feeling that Rockstar had forgotten to implement the rings?

[Rented]

On 3/2/2023 at 6:01 AM, Matushka said:

In-game? Looks like mirror park.

Screenshot itself? No idea.

 

Yeah that would’ve been my first guess as well especially with the hills in the background. Unfortunately Mirror Park doesn’t have a set of stairs with a parking lot underneath it. However, it is near there.
 

While I hadn’t checked in game I’m certain this is the park with the football(or soccer ) field that’s just underneath Downtown Cab Co. and the casino.

[Matushka]

14 hours ago, Rented said:

Yeah that would’ve been my first guess as well especially with the hills in the background. Unfortunately Mirror Park doesn’t have a set of stairs with a parking lot underneath it. However, it is near there.
 

While I hadn’t checked in game I’m certain this is the park with the football(or soccer ) field that’s just underneath Downtown Cab Co. and the casino.

Isn't that part or mirror park?

[DeZScoTs13]

Are any clothes files for character from beta still in game or replaced? Js asking if anyone knows.

[HeySlickThatsMe]

3 hours ago, DeZScoTs13 said:

Are any clothes files for character from beta still in game or replaced? Js asking if anyone knows.

Replaced, unless you count store props, they have a lot of early textures like Franklin's hoodies, beta shirt variants and so on

 

I found out that oldgen Michael's prologue face texture is slightly different compared to PC, notably it uses earlier version of the neck (painted over later) and has some extra shading on the nose and some sort of white highlight on the eyebrow

 

PC Below:

 

 

Something similar happens with Trevor but it's on PC too:

 

 

You can see the prologue variant has early neck which fits the one that can be seen peeking out at the bottom of the texture, you can very clearly notice how they painted over the old neck with a new one, even the transition is pretty harsh in few areas

 

Here's also how the Minigun barrel could look like with the unused heat texture:

 

 

 

And lastly this little hook was removed from SMG in enhanced model, funny that SMG Mk II has it though

[MGgames100]

Well looks like Rockstar planned to use some deep cuts for the WCC:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120206031637/http://www.roynet.com/archive_current_events/110111.cfm

[HeySlickThatsMe]

I just realized there were 4 versions of Heavy Rifle in total...

First Version:

 

Second Version: (was supposed to return in some update in Xbox 360/PS3, seems nobody talks about this one since even Wikia doesn't mention it's existence. Probably that's what those updated heavy rifle animations were for)

 

Third Version (was supposed to be in current gen)

 

Fourth Version (the one we got)

 

Also made this gif comparison:

Edited March 31 by HeySlickThatsMe

[DeZScoTs13]

There was a picture of Franklin smoking and it said something like 

 

A motivated medicinal marijuana patient well on the way to recovery.

 

does anybody know where it’s at??

[MGgames100]

Soooo I "re-found" another songs that for some reason everyone forgot was mentioned - Spice 1 - "187 Proof":

 

Thanks to the @darkplague for an amazing work all those years ago, so finding what he was talking about was a breeze! (Especially compared to the GTA IVs murky "oh yeah it was mentioned in some French magazine lmao")

[universetwisters]

23 hours ago, DeZScoTs13 said:

There was a picture of Franklin smoking and it said something like 

 

A motivated medicinal marijuana patient well on the way to recovery.

 

does anybody know where it’s at??

 

I believe that was on the website? It sounds like something framed from some tourist guide and the website was kinda like that

E. The original V website from prerelease. Now it's shilling GTA Online 

Edited April 3 by universetwisters

[happygrowls]

On 2/22/2023 at 6:28 AM, universetwisters said:

I know beta/early versions of ingame cartoons is probably insignificant but this early version of Gordon Moorhead & friends might interest someone

 

Rick and Morthead Rides Again

 

(Stylisation is more late 80s/early 90s than the 50s we got, guess it fit in more with the extremely misogynistic red scare parody we got)

[universetwisters]

2 minutes ago, happygrowls said:

(Stylisation is more late 80s/early 90s than the 50s we got, guess it fit in more with the extremely misogynistic red scare parody we got)

 

Idk to me it reminds me of COOL MCCOOL and other Saturday Morning cartoons from the 60s and 70s, at least with the character proportions. iirc the 80s and 90s just got more realistic looking (but at the cost of less frames or just having only the mouth move on a static ass body idk they got lazy as hell back then)

 

 

[Teal]

On 3/31/2023 at 3:02 PM, HeySlickThatsMe said:

I just realized there were 4 versions of Heavy Rifle in total...

First Version:

 

Second Version: (was supposed to return in some update in Xbox 360/PS3, seems nobody talks about this one since even Wikia doesn't mention it's existence. Probably that's what those updated heavy rifle animations were for)

 

Third Version (was supposed to be in current gen)

 

Fourth Version (the one we got)

 

Also made this gif comparison:

I am an editor on GTA Wiki. Mind if I include that in the Heavy Rifle page with proper attribution?

[HeySlickThatsMe]

6 hours ago, Teal said:

I am an editor on GTA Wiki. Mind if I include that in the Heavy Rifle page with proper attribution?

Sure go ahead, similarly the page about the scrapped singleplayer DLC has plenty of inaccuracies and insane amount of speculation... but that's for another day (i'm still preparing a post here)

[Teal]

14 minutes ago, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Sure go ahead, similarly the page about the scrapped singleplayer DLC has plenty of inaccuracies and insane amount of speculation... but that's for another day (i'm still preparing a post here)

Ok, thank you and oooh, I am eager to hear what is inaccurate. I know the Agent portion got majority of the info here.

[HeySlickThatsMe]

4 hours ago, Teal said:

Ok, thank you and oooh, I am eager to hear what is inaccurate. I know the Agent portion got majority of the info here.

I still have a lot of speculation but we can also connect the dots with certain piece of content 

 

I've been digging through game files including oldgen ones, seeing if there's something we missed, and I'd say there's some stuff that hasn't been talked about (or at least I haven't seen it being talked about)

 

Like for example theres actually two versions of the startup.xsc script that featured the agent dlc mission trigger coordinates, the second version is much more updated and has proper markers compared to the first one which for example had trevor_finale mission trigger at Simeon's garage which seemed to be a placeholder, though the fandom page has proper updated coordinates, it doesn't feature them all for some reason saying they're unknown but they aren't 

 

The fandom page also makes it seem like the casino heist was separate from the agent dlc but no, it was part of it and was connected to IAA somehow because the mission triggers are outside of IAA building in LS and facility in the desert, they also say the casino was related to Lester and quote a phone call from "mpdlc.awc" (do I even have to say anything? It's for Multiplayer, Lester doesn't even mention hitting the place)

 

They also talk about mount chiliad stuff being proven by doomsday heist but in reality the entire launch facility is completely new interior made for doomsday heist dlc, but I'll go more in depth about all of this in the future post I'm planning, problem is keeping everything clean because the leftovers are all over the place 

 

I think I'm somewhat close to figuring out a lot of details about the dlc but it still might be speculation as mentioned, there's no direct evidence of some of the things I came up with

 

As a bonus: hate to disappoint but the arena war assets are probably NOT zombie dlc assets based on my findings, but again I'll go about this in depth when i write my main post, there's this neat technique that can be used to see what's what

Edited April 4 by HeySlickThatsMe

[shady gaming]

On 2/26/2023 at 10:53 PM, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Fairly sure most of that is on PC unless i'm missing something.

 

Also Xbox 360 has two unused animation dictionaries that are not on PC, the first one is misfam2.xcd (it's the mission where you go biking with Jimmy and then go to the yacht to "save" Tracey), there's only one animation in it called whackoff_loop and it's kinda self explanatory.

https://streamable.com/62p92o

There's also missfbi3leadinoutfbi_3_mcs_8.xcd which has one animation aswell - _leadout_mrk. This animation proves that Mr K was supposed to appear after the airport cutscene in the torture mission, in final game he is never seen after the cutscene. 

https://streamable.com/nsz8cv

 

Videos by Tervel again

Both links are dead

Anyonr got mirrror?

[Chi Muse]

Hi, I have a small question and asked it here. But why was my question deleted? It really made me wonder. I didn't mention anything illegal or game mods or something?

[m3ssO]

6 hours ago, Chi Muse said:

Hi, I have a small question and asked it here. But why was my question deleted? It really made me wonder. I didn't mention anything illegal or game mods or something?

What was your question?

[Spider-Vice]

8 hours ago, Chi Muse said:

Hi, I have a small question and asked it here. But why was my question deleted? It really made me wonder. I didn't mention anything illegal or game mods or something?

You asked a general game support question that had nothing to do with this specific topic at hand, so a moderator deleted it as it's offtopic. Please make a new thread in the game Support section for your specific issue.

 

1 hour ago, m3ssO said:

What was your question?

Quite funnily you asked them "why did you ask this here" in the deleted post...

[Emmi]

Why was the option to buy properties as shown at the end of the official gameplay trailer cut from the final game? It doesn't make any sense to me. I mean it probably doesn't make sense for Michael but they could have easily made this feature exclusive to Franklin and Trevor? It would have been a great way to spend money on.

[MGgames100]

Well, here is another forgotten piece of history that seems like no-one is talking about. Remember when a label dropped an album with the scrapped songs that they pitched for a GTA station? No? well, here it is:

 

 

According to @Robert von Anzen, which is the owner of the Posh Boy Records, those were proposed to be in the Channel X... The fact that this wasn't a news headline and went pretty much unnoticed is surprising...

Edited April 10 by MGgames100

[D T]

That actually sounds a lot better than the Channel X we got. It miraculously doesn't sound unlistenable.

[Spider-Vice]

7 hours ago, MGgames100 said:

The fact that this wasn't a news headline and went pretty much unnoticed is surprising...

Interesting, I guess it may have gotten brushed off as fake or something for some reason. Feel like that post nowadays would've definitely gotten some more attention.

[universetwisters]

9 hours ago, MGgames100 said:

Well, here is another forgotten piece of history that seems like no-one is talking about. Remember when a label dropped an album with the scrapped songs that they pitched for a GTA station? No? well, here it is:

 

I remember seeing that on the gtawikia years ago and deleted it because I thought it was some punk rock loser trying to make up a rumor like OMG GUYS MY FAVORITE SONGS WERE SUPPOSED 2 BE IN GTA !!!!! but it got reverted by some dude who gave a source, but the source was in a facebook post.

 

On one hand it's very interesting but on the other hand, let's be skeptical. Let's not forget that Kavinsky lied about having a station coming up in GTA 5