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Something more, speaking of Heavy Rifle - it seems to be a new model based on the old one, it's shorter and for some reason they use special carbine mags now which doesn't even fit, do they always gotta screw up?
Enough complaining though, actual "beta" finding is: they created TINT_HEAVYRIFLE tint data which is unused, the gun itself still uses TINT_DEFAULT, overall TINT_HEAVYRIFLE is less shiny than default, so technically an upgrade ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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11 hours ago, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Something more, speaking of Heavy Rifle - it seems to be a new model based on the old one, it's shorter and for some reason they use special carbine mags now which doesn't even fit, do they always gotta screw up?
Enough complaining though, actual "beta" finding is: they created TINT_HEAVYRIFLE tint data which is unused, the gun itself still uses TINT_DEFAULT, overall TINT_HEAVYRIFLE is less shiny than default, so technically an upgrade ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Haven't had a chance to look, does it use the old Heavy Rifle sounds or is it a new set?

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2 hours ago, N. Man said:

Haven't had a chance to look, does it use the old Heavy Rifle sounds or is it a new set?

Unfortunately they changed it (it does sound a bit similar though), they also gave it a new icon 

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I wanted to ask something I don't even know if this get answered but what do we know (like everything) about the cut singleplayer dlc that involved zombies or aliens or whatever 

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5 hours ago, zxnd said:

I wanted to ask something I don't even know if this get answered but what do we know (like everything) about the cut singleplayer dlc that involved zombies or aliens or whatever 

In the latest GTA Online update you just witnessed Franklin's recycled DLC probably (the 3 Franklin & Lamar missions)


And we already know one of the heists was Michael's DLC recycled (jetpack and content)

 

Not sure if Trevor's got trickled down in some Online updates.

 

One way or another we pretty much experienced that singleplayer DLC we were promised.

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Damn what about that zombie dlc everyone kept talking about then I wonder what the files were and images of the models etc

 

 

Also for Michael it's the doomsday hesit which came out around the same time one of the employees at Rockstar announced they canceled the single-player dlc  long time ago that they were talking about in 2014 in an newswire post 

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The cut FIB livery for the Frogger makes an appearance in the Contract update during the Setup - Data Recovery mission. Two of them spawn full of agents as you exit the FIB tower.

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8 hours ago, 123tm123 said:

In the latest GTA Online update you just witnessed Franklin's recycled DLC probably (the 3 Franklin & Lamar missions)


And we already know one of the heists was Michael's DLC recycled (jetpack and content)

 

Not sure if Trevor's got trickled down in some Online updates.

 

One way or another we pretty much experienced that singleplayer DLC we were promised.

Jetpack/Doomsday stuff was Trevor's dlc not Michaels

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Another beta finding - in mpsecurity\dlc1.rpf\x64\levels\gta5\props\mp_apa_yacht_new_options.rpf\ they left what it seems to be some early versions of the yacht from executives and other criminals update, the file names also mention "all" "business" and "party" yacht types which we know were beta names for three yacht options, matches the old leak by Dragoon, the models themselves seem to be earlier though

it seems like the party yacht variant is missing most of it's textures though, and the only real difference in the yacht model itself is the front, where in final version there's a window while in this one we have closed doors
Worth to note these models are not loaded by the game as there's no ytyp, there's more yacht stuff that's unused but these are also copies of existing stuff and don't have any ytyp files, honestly would be nice if next dlc added more options to yachts, as indicated by this rpf name

 

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*Worth to note the pillows also use the same texture as singleplayer/heist version of the yacht, the one player owns has a different texture which is also colorable by tint palette

 

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Another weird thing is - there's an rpf called "prop_ac_yacht_accs.rpf" which has copied prop models from mpsummer dlc where they teased the Cayo Perico heist by adding construction near the casino, there's minor size differences, but as said before these are not loaded by the name either, what's interesting is the "ac" part in the name which doesn't match "sf" (which possibly stands for security/fixers)

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You mentioned something about a party yacht variant is it possible it's shown in the Los Santos lottery commercial? because it shows a yacht with colored lights at 0:08  (Sorry if I'm dumb and this is something different just thought of  it)  

 

4 hours ago, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Another beta finding - in mpsecurity\dlc1.rpf\x64\levels\gta5\props\mp_apa_yacht_new_options.rpf\ they left what it seems to be some early versions of the yacht from executives and other criminals update, the file names also mention "all" "business" and "party" yacht types which we know were beta names for three yacht options, matches the old leak by Dragoon, the models themselves seem to be earlier though

it seems like the party yacht variant is missing most of it's textures though, and the only real difference in the yacht model itself is the front, where in final version there's a window while in this one we have closed doors
Worth to note these models are not loaded by the game as there's no ytyp, there's more yacht stuff that's unused but these are also copies of existing stuff and don't have any ytyp files, honestly would be nice if next dlc added more options to yachts, as indicated by this rpf name

 

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*Worth to note the pillows also use the same texture as singleplayer/heist version of the yacht, the one player owns has a different texture which is also colorable by tint palette

 

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Another weird thing is - there's an rpf called "prop_ac_yacht_accs.rpf" which has copied prop models from mpsummer dlc where they teased the Cayo Perico heist by adding construction near the casino, there's minor size differences, but as said before these are not loaded by the name either, what's interesting is the "ac" part in the name which doesn't match "sf" (which possibly stands for security/fixers)

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28 minutes ago, zxnd said:

You mentioned something about a party yacht variant is it possible it's shown in the Los Santos lottery commercial? because it shows a yacht with colored lights at 0:08  (Sorry if I'm dumb and this is something different just thought of  it)  

 

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That's what I thought at first but I realized the model doesn't have textures hence why it's colorful, it's simply supposed to be gold railings 

 

The beta yacht types were Party, Business and "All"

If you think about this, based on both models and their names:

Party - Has Jacuzzi

Business - Has two helipads instead

All - Has both a jacuzzi and a helipad

These are equivalents of the final yachts like Aquarius, Pisces and the third one name I forgot of

 

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a small little find.
but the social club page shows a different colored stun gun.
it´s not possible to make the stun gun look like that regardless of the tint option.
so likely beta stungun from the dlc.

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here the looks of all the existing tints for the stun gun.
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6 hours ago, HeySlickThatsMe said:

That's what I thought at first but I realized the model doesn't have textures hence why it's colorful, it's simply supposed to be gold railings 

 

The beta yacht types were Party, Business and "All"

If you think about this, based on both models and their names:

Party - Has Jacuzzi

Business - Has two helipads instead

All - Has both a jacuzzi and a helipad

These are equivalents of the final yachts like Aquarius, Pisces and the third one name I forgot of

 

Ahh ok 

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This might be a bit of a stretch so take it with grain of salt, Rockstar released an artwork for Short Trip missions but Franklin's shirt doens't quite match the final product

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As you can see (or can not see) the shirt appears to be slightly blue, now this would make sense if you think about it - original Franklin's jacket was blue, so maybe they wanted to have the new one blue aswell?

Another evidence can be found in the current shirt we have from the release, the button is still blue

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MPSum also has this texture variant of the same shirt model

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And here's an edit of the yellow shirt to be blue and darker

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With The Contract update, Rockstar returned 2 or even 3 Beta Score tracks composed by The Alchemist to the game. They're used in the Short Trip missions along with some OG tracks by the same dude.

 

The first one is Electrocutioners formerly known as ELC. Its version by the name of ELC was added to GTA Online with the so called Score Update included with the High Life update in 2014. Never noticed that before though, but they actually announced it in the description as a part of «range of never-before-heard unreleased instrumental music from the original scoring sessions by Tangerine Dream, Woody Jackson, Alchemist and Oh No» which kinda suggests it was no secret that these had been made for the original game way back.

 

Anyway, some time later it was discovered that Chop The Dog app within the iFruit mobile app features an intro jingle based on the very same track, or rather its modified version that featured an unheard piano stem. Obviously it was there since the release of the app back in September 2013 when the full track wasn't known or heard at all. With those 2 Beta builds that leaked back in 2018, we discovered that the version of ELC used for LSC intro was indeed in the original game, though we only got our hands on an 80-second «preview» semi-corrupted dumped track, not the actual 8 separate stems. It's also worth noting that this track (specifically its ELC version from the Score Update) was used for A Picket Fence and a Dog Named Skip trailer which kinda suggested it was indeed Story Mode-related (can't really say the same for the Cayo Perico finale theme used in the infamous E&E trailer).

 

The second one is Mission Eight, a different version of which was added to GTA Online with the Lowriders update back in 2015. The track was also used as an intro jingle for Los Santos Customs app within the very same iFruit app, and it was also apparent that it was based on another version of the track, not the one added in Lowriders. However, it wasn't found among the stuff leaked with those builds.

 

The third one is called No No but this one or any of its versions were never heard, so we can't really say if it's a Beta track.

 

All of the tracks are named in the OG fashion (alc_electrocutioners, alc_mission_eight, alc_no_no but none of that dlc_wtf_name that we usually have) which makes me wonder if they simply grabbed these from the archives and put them in the update as is...

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5 hours ago, TomilovSenya said:

With The Contract update, Rockstar returned 2 or even 3 Beta Score tracks composed by The Alchemist to the game. They're used in the Short Trip missions along with some OG tracks by the same dude.

 

The first one is Electrocutioners formerly known as ELC. Its version by the name of ELC was added to GTA Online with the so called Score Update included with the High Life update in 2014. Never noticed that before though, but they actually announced it in the description as a part of «range of never-before-heard unreleased instrumental music from the original scoring sessions by Tangerine Dream, Woody Jackson, Alchemist and Oh No» which kinda suggests it was no secret that these had been made for the original game way back.

 

Anyway, some time later it was discovered that Chop The Dog app within the iFruit mobile app features an intro jingle based on the very same track, or rather its modified version that featured an unheard piano stem. Obviously it was there since the release of the app back in September 2013 when the full track wasn't known or heard at all. With those 2 Beta builds that leaked back in 2018, we discovered that the version of ELC used for LSC intro was indeed in the original game, though we only got our hands on an 80-second «preview» semi-corrupted dumped track, not the actual 8 separate stems. It's also worth noting that this track (specifically its ELC version from the Score Update) was used for A Picket Fence and a Dog Named Skip trailer which kinda suggested it was indeed Story Mode-related (can't really say the same for the Cayo Perico finale theme used in the infamous E&E trailer).

 

The second one is Mission Eight, a different version of which was added to GTA Online with the Lowriders update back in 2015. The track was also used as an intro jingle for Los Santos Customs app within the very same iFruit app, and it was also apparent that it was based on another version of the track, not the one added in Lowriders. However, it wasn't found among the stuff leaked with those builds.

 

The third one is called No No but this one or any of its versions were never heard, so we can't really say if it's a Beta track.

 

All of the tracks are named in the OG fashion (alc_electrocutioners, alc_mission_eight, alc_no_no but none of that dlc_wtf_name that we usually have) which makes me wonder if they simply grabbed these from the archives and put them in the update as is...

2018 beta build leak? What is this?

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1 hour ago, Yarrow said:

2018 beta build leak? What is this?

You can find about it many pages back, but anyways: in 2017 two guys got their hands on real pre-release GTA V builds from 2012. But in early 2018, due to the absolute attention-seeking dimwits that the guys were, they ignored all already-known warnings to avoid getting in trouble and continued to pulbicly post about it until Rockstar/Take-Two sent private investigators to them and the builds were sent back to Rockstar.

 

Sad that we keep losing these kinds of things due to them falling in the hands of idiots.

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On 12/23/2021 at 4:52 PM, TomilovSenya said:

It's also worth noting that this track (specifically its ELC version from the Score Update) was used for A Picket Fence and a Dog Named Skip trailer which kinda suggested it was indeed Story Mode-related (can't really say the same for the Cayo Perico finale theme used in the infamous E&E trailer).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the music used for that trailer was the one that did actually get added to the game and could be heard during GTA Online Jobs, not the ELC track. The ELC track is noticeably different.

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On 12/24/2021 at 10:05 AM, LegitimatePride said:

You can find about it many pages back, but anyways: in 2017 two guys got their hands on real pre-release GTA V builds from 2012. But in early 2018, due to the absolute attention-seeking dimwits that the guys were, they ignored all already-known warnings to avoid getting in trouble and continued to pulbicly post about it until Rockstar/Take-Two sent private investigators to them and the builds were sent back to Rockstar.

 

Sad that we keep losing these kinds of things due to them falling in the hands of idiots.

 

f*cking typical, isn't it? The only confirmed pre-release build (broken or not) of a GTA game in public hands in the entire 24 years of the series' history and it just had to go down like that. They should have sat on that sh*t for years before saying word one about it. Everyone knows how Rockstar officially feels about cut content since the expensive Hot Coffee debacle.

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On 12/24/2021 at 1:05 AM, LegitimatePride said:

You can find about it many pages back, but anyways: in 2017 two guys got their hands on real pre-release GTA V builds from 2012. But in early 2018, due to the absolute attention-seeking dimwits that the guys were, they ignored all already-known warnings to avoid getting in trouble and continued to pulbicly post about it until Rockstar/Take-Two sent private investigators to them and the builds were sent back to Rockstar.

 

Sad that we keep losing these kinds of things due to them falling in the hands of idiots.

easy to say sh*t with the power of hindsight. kid who was posting was only 14 at the time. this was just after the community won against t2 over openiv and it seemed like they would leave the community alone. this was even before they went after mod menus and such. i am pretty sure they back then thought t2 - who already was swimming in billions of dollars from gta v sales, wouldnt worry about some old ass non functioning build for a game that already has made them more than enough money.

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1 hour ago, afxtwin said:

easy to say sh*t with the power of hindsight. kid who was posting was only 14 at the time. this was just after the community won against t2 over openiv and it seemed like they would leave the community alone. this was even before they went after mod menus and such. i am pretty sure they back then thought t2 - who already was swimming in billions of dollars from gta v sales, wouldnt worry about some old ass non functioning build for a game that already has made them more than enough money.

Rockstar was known well before that of being paranoid about stuff like this leaking, and those guys still didn't listen despite being warned. They liked attention not only here, but also on Reddit, where they were like "hey guys, we have this!" in multiple communities. 

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6 minutes ago, LegitimatePride said:

Rockstar was known well before that they were paranoid about stuff like that leaking, and those guys still didn't listen despite being warned. They liked attention not only here, but also on Reddit, where they were like "hey guys, we have this!" in multiple communities. 

all that was known was that they were secretive. there never had been a case before of them going after people posting stuff related to cut content - besides hot coffee, which happened 13 years before the fact. and if you look back at those posts theres little to no instances of people supposedly warning them, because the stigma around t2 wasnt as huge as it is now.

 

i remember carson being gone and silent for a couple of months during 2017-early 2018 and 1 or 2 people speculating t2 got him (which hadnt yet occured as he came back shortly before t2 stepped in) but thats it.

 

where are these supposed reddit posts? because i was there when all this occured and dont remember them posting anything anywhere besides on this topic and that one video on youtube.

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4 hours ago, afxtwin said:

 

where are these supposed reddit posts? because i was there when all this occured and dont remember them posting anything anywhere besides on this topic and that one video on youtube.

This is the one that Ash attributed to the build getting discovered by Rockstar. Granted, I'm sure they monitor the going ons here way more than they do the various GTA related subreddits

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1 hour ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

This is the one that Ash attributed to the build getting discovered by Rockstar. Granted, I'm sure they monitor the going ons here way more than they do the various GTA related subreddits

yeah im pretty sure that had nothing to do with carson. that was an error on ash's part. i remember him mentioning how it unintentionally got out there due to a friend of ash accessing his dropbox or something and finding the mix on there and then procceeded to post it on reddit without carson's or ash's permission. so if thats the case then you got ash's friend to thank

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On 12/26/2021 at 12:03 AM, Demysted said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the music used for that trailer was the one that did actually get added to the game and could be heard during GTA Online Jobs, not the ELC track. The ELC track is noticeably different.

You are correct, the version used in the trailer (ELC) is the one that was added in the High Life update -  the version that was added with The Contract (Electrocutioners) is an older version that hasn't been heard before outside the above mentioned 2018 leak.

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12 hours ago, afxtwin said:

yeah im pretty sure that had nothing to do with carson. that was an error on ash's part. i remember him mentioning how it unintentionally got out there due to a friend of ash accessing his dropbox or something and finding the mix on there and then procceeded to post it on reddit without carson's or ash's permission. so if thats the case then you got ash's friend to thank

is that it? That mix was the only thing leaked from the 2012 build?

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So, do you remember the cut Assault Rifle camo that was found in x64e inside weapons.rpf?

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I managed to restore it with some modding, i did however change the shader so the normal and specular maps aren't present in this one (i did this to be able to cycle through the colors just like Mk2 Weapons)

Here are the three texture variants + default color assigned through it's palette

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Seems the model was made for either oldgen model, or for a version without the decals because they clip through and keep flashing due to z-fighting

Also it's palette seems to be temporary and it's pretty buggy, but here's all the colors that seem to be part of it, some of them repeat multiple times too
 

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Those looks pretty cool. I guess Rockstar wanted to try and restore that idea in some way with the MK II weapons. Those skins should make a return as well.

16 hours ago, boomboom5950 said:

is that it? That mix was the only thing leaked from the 2012 build?

Not just that. There was also an early mix of Worldwide FM, as well as a bunch of cutscene audio from cutscenes that don't exist in the final game.

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5 hours ago, Demysted said:

Those looks pretty cool. I guess Rockstar wanted to try and restore that idea in some way with the MK II weapons. Those skins should make a return as well.

Not just that. There was also an early mix of Worldwide FM, as well as a bunch of cutscene audio from cutscenes that don't exist in the final game.

thanks, i went back 5 or so pages and found the cutscene audio, really interesting stuff. But the thread is almost 300 pages so im behind on almost everything

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On 12/26/2021 at 7:49 AM, afxtwin said:

yeah im pretty sure that had nothing to do with carson. that was an error on ash's part. i remember him mentioning how it unintentionally got out there due to a friend of ash accessing his dropbox or something and finding the mix on there and then procceeded to post it on reddit without carson's or ash's permission. so if thats the case then you got ash's friend to thank

It wasn't a friend of mine, it was a GTAF moderator at the time who leaked that from my dropbox and who posted that reddit thread. I shared the files with GTAF staff members to prove they were real so had no reason to think a leak would happen that way, but alas, it did.

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