The GTA V beta hunt

[WildBrick142]

Last Wednesday I found out that a cut vehicle, the RC Bandito, can have its sounds restored since the game still ties the unused rc motor audio with the model name. This also means any vehicle can have these sounds if you change the "audioNameHash" entry to "rcbandito" in vehicles.meta

 

I took some time to convert a Bandito from GTA SA into a "RC Bandito" in GTA V. Pretty sure that's not how it looked, but it's literally the best option we have atm. (If you want gameplay of it, skip to 1:30 in my video that's literally this post but slightly more detailed I think - and yeah, the sound is REALLY quiet).

It seems that RC vehicle functionality and races were pretty complete. Handling files still support a model flag called "RC" (Change 8th digit to 1 - keep in mind the game reads digits from right to left!). That model flag causes any ped model, player or NPC it doesn't matter, to disappear as soon as they enter the vehicle with that flag enabled. Which is nice, you don't need scripts or any other shenanigans to hide the model while driving an RC car.

 

There's also an unused vehicle camera type - "FOLLOW_RC_CAMERA" for, well, RC vehicles. It affects the third person view - it's at a slightly lower angle at a slightly longer distance compared to the standard vehicle camera.

 

On top of all that stuff, (2 days before) I found out that the game had at least 3 "RC Checkpoint" Random Events cut from the game. There were going to be 3 locations where the event would start, I placed an RC Bandito at those coordinates. Those coordinates can be found in "ambient.ipl" in "common.rpf\data\levels\gta5".

Scene_Root, -1310.202, -3.8142, 49.4074, 13, 0, 0, 0.1513031, -0.9884874, re_rc_checkpoints, 0
Scene_Root, 2170.661, 3765.745, 31.7076, 13, 0, 0, 0.9484913, 0.3168031, re_rc_checkpoints, 0
Scene_Root, 2330.969, 3144.71, 47.1647, 13, 0, 0, 0.9686865, 0.2482869, re_rc_checkpoints, 0

 

The first one is at Los Santos Golf Club.

Spoiler

 

The second one is in Sandy Shores, between the town and the Beam Me Up art hill thing. For some reason the coordinate is underground (wonder if the terrain changed ).

Spoiler

 

The third one is nearby, at Thomson Scrapyard.

Spoiler

 

No idea what they were. They could have been either RC vehicle checkpoint races, a time trial for RC vehicles, or a simple "collect all checkpoints before time runs out" challenge.

 

Interestingly enough, the good old missions.xml also mentions RC stuff, except here it's called "RC Challenge Mode", the script name is different too, and apparently you would play those as Michael.

Spoiler

<mission>
 <id>99227</id>
 <name>VOID RE - RC Challenge Mode</name>
 <description>RC Challenge Mode</description>
 <scriptName>re_rc_challenge.sc</scriptName>
 <issues/>
 <storyDescription>Play as Michael</storyDescription>
 <missionId>RE47</missionId>
 <played>false</played>
 <adminToPlay>false</adminToPlay>
 <percentageComplete>40</percentageComplete>
 <designerInitials>CMcM</designerInitials>
 <projectedAttempts>0.0</projectedAttempts>
 <projectedAttemptsMin>0.0</projectedAttemptsMin>
 <projectedAttemptsMax>0.0</projectedAttemptsMax>
 <variantNumber>0</variantNumber>
 <inactive>true</inactive>
 <singleplayer>false</singleplayer>
 <checkpoints/>
</mission>

 

 

RC cars/races/etc would have been nice IMO, shame they got cut.

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

10 hours ago, umar4812 said:

No idea. Our first sight of him is Grand Theft Auto V Trailer, and his looks didn't change much. Still a white American guy.

Nah. His real last name is Townley. What color is Ned Luke? There is our answer. He is a white dude of English descent going by surnames of real life, and fictional character, alike. 

 

De Santa is an Italian name.

[cctcat70]

There are also lines about New Franklin's and Trevor's model.

[BadaBing_1996]

16 hours ago, JuliusCaesar said:

Nah. His real last name is Townley. What color is Ned Luke? There is our answer. He is a white dude of English descent going by surnames of real life, and fictional character, alike. 

 

De Santa is an Italian name.

De Santa is not Italian.

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

2 hours ago, BadaBing_1996 said:

De Santa is not Italian.

 

Yes it is, and it first went to Panama and New Spain (mexico and USA today) from Italy. thanks for the opportunity. I never tell a lie:

 

https://www.houseofnames.com/de+santa-family-crest

Early Origins of the De santa family

 

The surname De santa was first found in Lucca, a city and comune in Tuscany, capital of the province of Lucca and where Bascilican type churches abound. The history commences in 218 B.C., and passed through many hands in the intervening centuries. Many notable scholars and prelates lived here. The cathedral of St Martin was begun in 1060 by Bishop Anselm, later Pope Alexander II. It has many museums and galleries. In those ancient times only persons of rank, the podesta, clergy, city officials, army officers, artists, landowners were entered into the records. To be recorded at this time, at the beginning of recorded history, was of itself a great distinction and indicative of noble ancestry.

Migration of the De santa family to the New World and Oceana

 

Some of the first settlers of this family name were: 
 

De santa Settlers in United States in the 19th Century

• Hernando DeSanta, who arrived in Veragua in 1835 ^[1]
• Juan DeSanta, who landed in America in 1835 ^[1]
• Diego DeSanta, who arrived in New Spain in 1836 ^[1]
• Antonio DeSanta, who landed in Nombre de Dios, Panama in 1838 ^[1]
• Julian DeSanta, who arrived in Guatemala in 1838 ^[1]
• ... (More are available in all our PDF Extended History products and printed products wherever possible.)

 

 

Edited July 23, 2018 by JuliusCaesar

[trip]

Hey guys, this isn't a genealogy thread...lets try and keep it that way.

[m3ssO]

On 7/22/2018 at 9:53 PM, BadaBing_1996 said:

De Santa is not Italian.

to be fare he does seem to like stuff thats quite Italian (although it could be because of his witsec program)

[Darealbandicoot]

The Sandy Shores and Paleto Bay police station interiors have been activated for GTA Online nightclub business battles. 

 

Edited July 26, 2018 by Darealbandicoot
Correct link

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

23 hours ago, m3ssO said:

to be fare he does seem to like stuff thats quite Italian (although it could be because of his witsec program)

 

The way he says "I got the good night gas" always sounded so mobster to me.

 

I just had to comment on that, that you mention it.

[DavSte]

Some things I found

* Firefighter model for Trevor (In-Game Files)

* The Elegy RH8 called ingame "elegy2" probably the elegy retro classic or just Elegy was in the beta (In-Game Files)

* The lightbar of the Sheriff SUV was brighter and the colours were swapped like the Sheriff Cruiser (Screenshot)

* Probably, Police Officers were able to remove their gun, which is in the holster if they draw the gun. Because there are models of a weapon belt WITH the weapon and WITHOUT the weapon. Nearly every Police Officer, Sheriff etc. has these two models. (In-Game Files)

* As you said vigilante missions but also the police computer was cut (seen in the PS3 Files)

[MGgames100]

1 minute ago, DavSte said:

Some things I found

* Firefighter model for Trevor (In-Game Files)

* The Elegy RH8 called ingame "elegy2" probably the elegy retro classic or just Elegy was in the beta (In-Game Files)

* The lightbar of the Sheriff SUV was brighter and the colours were swapped like the Sheriff Cruiser (Screenshot)

* Probably, Police Officers were able to remove their gun, which is in the holster if they draw the gun. Because there are models of a weapon belt WITH the weapon and WITHOUT the weapon. Nearly every Police Officer, Sheriff etc. has these two models. (In-Game Files)

* As you said vigilante missions but also the police computer was cut (seen in the PS3 Files)

All of those are really old finds, but thanks for your input.

[KENNYOUT3]

the new artwork the the tale of us dj's for gta online could possibly have the background of a cut artwork. we all know rockstar loves to re use things for gta online especially singeplayer dlc stuff. so i think that judging by the time of day of the artwork and where the artwork is at that this artwork could possibly be a cut artwork featuring cletus  the time of day is around the exact same time cletus missions take palce and two cletus missions out of 3 take place in this area. and also doesn't it jus look a little out of place to see 2 dj's in a desert where there are no nightclubs? i mean yes they could be going for a certain "look" to describe them but i mean jus look at it

Edited July 31, 2018 by KENNYOUT3

[m3ssO]

3 hours ago, KENNYOUT3 said:

the new artwork the the tale of us dj's for gta online could possibly have the background of a cut artwork. we all know rockstar loves to re use things for gta online especially singeplayer dlc stuff. so i think that judging by the time of day of the artwork and where the artwork is at that this artwork could possibly be a cut artwork featuring cletus  the time of day is around the exact same time cletus missions take palce and two cletus missions out of 3 take place in this area. and also doesn't it jus look a little out of place to see 2 dj's in a desert where there are no nightclubs? i mean yes they could be going for a certain "look" to describe them but i mean jus look at it

Nice theory obviously meant for Cletus but not really beta stuff

[KENNYOUT3]

12 minutes ago, m3ssO said:

Nice theory obviously meant for Cletus but not really beta stuff

its beta because i believe that it is a old artwork before the game released that they used for cletus. because believe me rockstar has TONS of unreleased artwork

[Ash_735]

1 hour ago, KENNYOUT3 said:

its beta because i believe that it is a old artwork before the game released that they used for cletus. because believe me rockstar has TONS of unreleased artwork

But again, it's NOT Beta, it's just re-purposed unreleased artwork, as you said Rockstar sit on a LOT of art that never gets shown, so here it'd just be the case of opening up the project file, removing the character layer which would be cletus, and then just adding these over it instead, which you can tell because the art style between them is a little different.

[KENNYOUT3]

1 hour ago, Ash_735 said:

But again, it's NOT Beta, it's just re-purposed unreleased artwork, as you said Rockstar sit on a LOT of art that never gets shown, so here it'd just be the case of opening up the project file, removing the character layer which would be cletus, and then just adding these over it instead, which you can tell because the art style between them is a little different.

yeah. i think there was a miss communication error cause i was implying that the background was for cletus and that it is technically beta because it was meant for gta v. so the background is beta and meant for a unreleased (beta) cletus artwork. cause from what ur saying ur saying that something modified that wasn't released and turned into something new really isn't beta. if that was the case then the hunter being re added isn't beta because it has different type of guns or that its re purposed for gta online with more weapons and sh*t. i'm not trying to sound rude here.

Edited August 1, 2018 by KENNYOUT3

[Gerald Ford]

If it wasn't released we have no proof it was ever meant to appear in the loading screen (only way it could be considered Beta) so it isn't considered beta IMO.

Edited August 1, 2018 by Gerald Ford

[WWEshnik]

sad that dudes that had ps3 beta doesnt exported any horse files... well, this is what i'm doing

[LegitimatePride]

Like many prototypes, it ended in the hands of careless and unintelligent idiots, what did you expect?

Anyways, does anyone have a possible clue on where the Mrs3 sound bank would have been used? Mrs A/B mission?

[Ash_735]

36 minutes ago, LegitimatePride said:

Like many prototypes, it ended in the hands of careless and unintelligent idiots, what did you expect?

Rude and ungrateful. If this community wasn't so brag happy then perhaps Take-Two wouldn't have tracked down the dudes!

[WWEshnik]

is there any way to spawn in-game sharm.job's safe room? there are \x64a.rpf\levels\gta5\destruction\interior\des_ranchsafe.ymt and other files from the room with safe. how it's not in interiors mods yet..

[medmed]

Hi everyone, I've finally manage to "fix" the soulwax FM beta mix. Unfortunately, I only have the first part.

 

[Siprus]

Somebody checked this waypoints records? Maybe we can recover player route in sharmoota job

Edited September 3, 2018 by Siprus

[deadasdisco]

On 7/22/2018 at 7:39 AM, cctcat70 said:

Did Michael had a different model?

https://imgur.com/Ip5YAB3

can you please send me file of builds? The one I got is horribly formatted

Edited August 10, 2018 by deadasdisco

[Siprus]

6 hours ago, deadasdisco said:

can you please send me file of builds? The one I got is horribly formatted

https://mega.nz/#!qXYi2ASA!11qLnWgjk9PgAA4GvQ8iHNMCZqgOAqAHUiWJY6mE0f8

[WildBrick142]

On 8/7/2018 at 6:30 PM, Siprus said:

Somebody checked this waypoints records? Maybe we can recover player route in sharmoota job

 https://imgur.com/a/nKeB0kM

I tried to make the carwash use some of those a while back but all that happened is the vehicle reversed out and attempted to gravitate towards Madrazo's. Had no way to make the players use those either. Would probably need a custom script to load any of these. It'd be interesting to see those in-game.

 

I did however manage to get one of the horse paths (vehicle records, not the same as the above waypoint records) by making the Caida Libre plane use them a year ago.

 

[HeySlickThatsMe]

Beta Assault Rifle Render

[WWEshnik]

21 hours ago, WildBrick142 said:

I tried to make the carwash use some of those a while back but all that happened is the vehicle reversed out and attempted to gravitate towards Madrazo's. Had no way to make the players use those either. Would probably need a custom script to load any of these. It'd be interesting to see those in-game.

 

 I did however manage to get one of the horse paths (vehicle records, not the same as the above waypoint records) by making the Caida Libre plane use them a year ago.

 

so, horse is like merged ped and car, because it has files from both types. can you wrote an script, that will work like add-on horse, mixing all horse content as single creature? here is my spawnable large_quadped https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Q9DUthv5CH1BVho1EyS95uVHb9XQYp0e can you attach ragdoll from heists update, posematches, ect.?

Edited August 11, 2018 by WWEshnik

[WWEshnik]

oh, did you know that there are cutscenes of TV shows and fame or shame episodes? \x64c.rpf\anim\cutscene\cuts_fame_or_shame.rpf\   and \x64c.rpf\anim\cutscene\cuts_tv.rpf\ there are may be that parts with horses, it may help somehow

[Darealbandicoot]

On 8/11/2018 at 1:23 PM, HeySlickThatsMe said:

Beta Assault Rifle Render

Was the extended mag the default?