Kingdome Come: Deliverance

[Creed Bratton]

I think that dude is actually a colossal f*ckin' idiot.

[Rykjeklut]

So, I'm enjoying it.

 

Pre-ordered it for PS4, which in hindsight was stupid, as I just got a new gaming-pc.

 

Anyways, it looks nice. I haven't had any massive framedrops or similar.

It had crashed a couple of times on me, but as an experienced Bethesda gamer, it's all good.

 

The story is interesting, I enjoy the hardcore elements to its gameplay, even if I spent the better part of 4 hours trying to defeat a bandit encampment. Lockpicking is basically impossible, archery is ridiculously hard to do, and you very often end up dying in swordfights. Which makes perfect sense from a narrative perspective.

The only thing I know I'm good at in this game is fist-fighting.

Even with all that, I like it.

 

If you like RPGs, buy it. If you don't, don't.

[Fireman]

 

Nice "worth a buy / not" type of review, spoiler free and straightforward.

 

Mack is one of the best when it comes to reviews. He tells it like it is and doesn't kiss anyone's ass. I recommend his channel.

 

 

Reminder that this nonsense spewing idiot did not recommend Witcher 3 (but did Skyrim/Fallout 4) and has since removed this video and has no valid opinions whatsoever on anything except for; "Look at this one bug I forced, what a dumb game. I never roleplay anything, so games should adapt to me and only my needs. I died to this knight in full plate armour while I hit him way more with my sword, but he still one hit killed me (dressed in clothes), unfair game.".

 

And no, I did not watch the video, I just assume that's what he said.

 

His last video I watched was about HIM (of all people), explaining us what a RPG is. Without any mention of story, dialogues, lore, quests, stat-weighting, protagonist progression, skill trees, talents, characters, backgrounds or realism.

Edited February 17, 2018 by Fireman

[Coin]

Sectorial lockpicking mod and Clean HUD mod

 

Personally prefer this mod when it comes to lockpicking.

[Creed Bratton]

 

 

Nice "worth a buy / not" type of review, spoiler free and straightforward.

 

Mack is one of the best when it comes to reviews. He tells it like it is and doesn't kiss anyone's ass. I recommend his channel.

 

 

Reminder that this nonsense spewing idiot did not recommend Witcher 3 (but did Skyrim/Fallout 4) and has since removed this video and has no valid opinions whatsoever on anything except for; "Look at this one bug I forced, what a dumb game. I never roleplay anything, so games should adapt to me and only my needs. I died to this knight in full plate armour while I hit him way more with my sword, but he still one hit killed me (dressed in clothes), unfair game.".

 

And no, I did not watch the video, I just assume that's what he said.

 

His last video I watched was about HIM (of all people), explaining us what a RPG is. Without any mention of story, dialogues, lore, quests, stat-weighting, protagonist progression, skill trees, talents, characters, backgrounds or realism.

The guy almost literally thinks that the only games that matter are first person games. He's a complete joke. Worse than Angry Joe.

[Dryspace]

From what I understand about the design philosophy of this game, as well as the technical state upon release, I suspect that it has a 70-something Steam rating only as a result of some Olympic level cheerleading.

 

I noticed a large number of recommendations with between 0.1 and 10 hours on record, with many less than 5. The rush to slap up a recommendation and artificially inflate a game's score is a problem in general and certainly not peculiar to this game. I wonder just what the rating would be right now if all recommendations with less than 5 hours on record were discounted. One bite of a five-course meal is enough to warn others away, but all five courses must be sampled in order to honestly recommend it to others.

 

One thing that I find perplexing and very concerning is that the developers seem to have opted for simulation in aspects that should consist of entertaining gameplay. I won't discover the truth for some time though, as these days I don't pay anything near full price for games without a demo.

Edited February 18, 2018 by Dryspace

[Coin]

Any tips for combat involving multiple opponents (when you're alone) ? I'm still very much coming to terms with the combat but it feels really awful in that scenario compared to 1v1 fights where it is thoroughly enjoyable.

[Rykjeklut]

Any tips for combat involving multiple opponents (when you're alone) ? I'm still very much coming to terms with the combat but it feels really awful in that scenario compared to 1v1 fights where it is thoroughly enjoyable.

Man, me too. I try to use the bow if there are more than one, especially if there are a couple of guys with shields.

 

I keep dying in a story mission that sadly involves a group of enemies. Broke my controller yesterday.

[Fireman]

Any tips for combat involving multiple opponents (when you're alone) ? I'm still very much coming to terms with the combat but it feels really awful in that scenario compared to 1v1 fights where it is thoroughly enjoyable.

 

Neutral swings never get blocked. This is a bit cheesy however, just like backpeddling with a bow. It gets them killed, but yeah not fairly

[Coin]

I should probably learn what a neutral swing is then... are my noob colours showing?

 

Since I posted that, I haven't found myself in a situation like that again really. Fought 2 Cumans, but one was an archer so it was basically 1v1 anyway and 2 bandits who didn't have any form of armour (so easy kills).

[Fireman]

Neutral swing is swinging without being locked on. You can sprint a very short distance, unlock and start swinging and continue swining while you run at them, none will block.

[Coin]

Ahh, that makes sense.

 

Encountered a wandering knight last night whilst riding between towns. He challenged me to a friendly duel, to which I naturally accepted. The end result was not pretty (for me).

 

Going to try this mod out today. I don't get the dizzy side effects but I do get a headache if I play for a couple hours so hopefully this helps. And someone else might find it useful too.

Edited February 20, 2018 by Coin

[feckyerlife]

I should probably learn what a neutral swing is then... are my noob colours showing?

 

Since I posted that, I haven't found myself in a situation like that again really. Fought 2 Cumans, but one was an archer so it was basically 1v1 anyway and 2 bandits who didn't have any form of armour (so easy kills).

that is the typical situation that i fine too. but if i get 2 cumans in full armor, forget about it. its impossible to fight them

 

I feel like Locking Picking is meant for PC. i got 20hrs into the game and haven't picked a single lock yet fml.

[chronic lumbago]

Journalists already call this game racist for not including any colored folk lmao.

[DexMacLeod]

 

I should probably learn what a neutral swing is then... are my noob colours showing?

 

Since I posted that, I haven't found myself in a situation like that again really. Fought 2 Cumans, but one was an archer so it was basically 1v1 anyway and 2 bandits who didn't have any form of armour (so easy kills).

that is the typical situation that i fine too. but if i get 2 cumans in full armor, forget about it. its impossible to fight them

 

I feel like Locking Picking is meant for PC. i got 20hrs into the game and haven't picked a single lock yet fml.

 

From what I've heard the lock picking is just as hard if not harder on PC. With the keyboard you can't control the speed your turning as well. Right now I'm teaching Henry to read so I can buy that book on lock picking from the second miller. Has anyone tried this?

 

So far the only things I'm halfway decent at in the game is the bow and arrow and fist fighting. Oh and calling my horse and running away, pretty good at that too. Everytime I pull my sword is says I'm using a weapon beyond my skill level. Might try going with a shield and dagger for awhile.

[feckyerlife]

 

 

I should probably learn what a neutral swing is then... are my noob colours showing?

 

Since I posted that, I haven't found myself in a situation like that again really. Fought 2 Cumans, but one was an archer so it was basically 1v1 anyway and 2 bandits who didn't have any form of armour (so easy kills).

that is the typical situation that i fine too. but if i get 2 cumans in full armor, forget about it. its impossible to fight them

 

I feel like Locking Picking is meant for PC. i got 20hrs into the game and haven't picked a single lock yet fml.

 

From what I've heard the lock picking is just as hard if not harder on PC. With the keyboard you can't control the speed your turning as well. Right now I'm teaching Henry to read so I can buy that book on lock picking from the second miller. Has anyone tried this?

 

So far the only things I'm halfway decent at in the game is the bow and arrow and fist fighting. Oh and calling my horse and running away, pretty good at that too. Everytime I pull my sword is says I'm using a weapon beyond my skill level. Might try going with a shield and dagger for awhile.

 

I've completed the reading quest and read that damn book and still cant pick a f*cking lock lol.

 

In your inventory, if you do show info, it will let you know if your sword is too powerful for you. also i suck Bow and Arrow too, only thing im good at is fist fighting, good thing i got my speech up to 10 lol

[Static]

Journalists already call this game racist for not including any colored folk lmao.

 

I think it was more so the fact that lead designer/head of the studio is an alleged white nationalist and gamergater and his responses to someone on twitter defending his stance on not having POCs in his game, one of them implying that non-white people are too incompetent to design/make games about their own culture. So it doesnt really have anything to do with the game itself.

 

 

 

 

[feckyerlife]

 

Journalists already call this game racist for not including any colored folk lmao.

 

I think it was more so the fact that lead designer/head of the studio is an alleged white nationalist and gamergater and his responses to someone on twitter defending his stance on not having POCs in his game, one of them implying that non-white people are too incompetent to design/make games about their own culture. So it doesnt really have anything to do with the game itself.

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, none of that sound racist too me. Too me it sounds like someone else is trying to interject race/race bait him and turn it racist because it doesn't fit their historical view point of what Bohemia should look like.

[Static]

Honestly, none of that sound racist too me. Too me it sounds like someone else is trying to interject race/race bait him and turn it racist because it doesn't fit their historical view point of what Bohemia should look like.

 

I just think he could've just handled/worded it a bit better personally. Like there wasn't any need for the incompetent part at all, especially since there's numerous reasons as to why games aren't made in the various regions he listed, with incompetence being near the bottom of the list.

[chronic lumbago]

Yeah, I've heard the rumors before release. That one comment was a bit too much, even though I sort of can understand his perspective regarding the other stuff he said. However, he's fighting a battle he can't win here and will only continue making it worse.

 

The game was his and his studio's vision and if that's how they saw history then it's their right to portray it as they want. They don't owe anyone anything and not every game needs to be an example of perfect social justice and equality.

 

People just found someone new to point their finger at.

 

Neither side is right.

Edited February 20, 2018 by fashion

[feckyerlife]

 

Honestly, none of that sound racist too me. Too me it sounds like someone else is trying to interject race/race bait him and turn it racist because it doesn't fit their historical view point of what Bohemia should look like.

 

I just think he could've just handled/worded it a bit better personally. Like there wasn't any need for the incompetent part at all, especially since there's numerous reasons as to why games aren't made in the various regions he listed, with incompetence being near the bottom of the list.

 

that i agree with he could've worded it different,but you can sit there and read his blood pressure rising with each post he writes , he got baited and caved a bit. But with all the sh*t he's been dealing with for the past month about how this game is only for whites, i would probably blow up a bit too.

 

The funny thing is these people who are trying to race bait him don't realize that his prior games are Mafia 1 & 2, which are about immigrants in the US.

Edited February 20, 2018 by feckyerlife

[DexMacLeod]

Yeah, Twitter's gotta be about the worst place to try and have that conversation.

[Dryspace]

I'm certain that feckyerlife is absolutely correct.

 

Static, you don't explain why he had to defend himself in the first place. Why did someone ask him about why there aren't "people of color" in the game in the first place? Why did someone ask about race in the first place?

The mindset that it's the job of white people to look out for and take care of "people of color" is just about the most condescending and racist--truly racist--idea going today.

[luisniko]

Saw this game on PSN and saw this thread here. So I came to look for some screenshots or something. Found an issue instead. lel.

 

So I read the tweets in previous page. I understand the guy was probably already tired of that sh*t. But he could have made one of his answer below to end that and copy-paste it on every same questions for a period of time and ignore any more of the question after that.

 

"would you please explain to me what's so racist about telling the truth? There were no black people in medieval Bohemia. Period."

 

Maybe he could refine it as: "We are trying to capture the essence of medieval Bohemia and there were no black people there at that period time."

 

---

Oh he also said "...ask Chinese developers...". Did he mean Japanese? lel

Edited February 21, 2018 by luisniko

[Static]

Static, you don't explain why he had to defend himself in the first place. Why did someone ask him about why there aren't "people of color" in the game in the first place? Why did someone ask about race in the first place?

 

The mindset that it's the job of white people to look out for and take care of "people of color" is just about the most condescending and racist--truly racist--idea going today.

 

I mean it's all there in the spoiler, I didn't think it needed to further explanation tbh. But to answer your questions, some people seem to think there were no POCs in that time period and other people seem to disagree with them.

 

Also, I don't think most POCs expect white people to look out for or to take care of them, especially since historically speaking, that has never happened on a significant scale. If I had to hazard a guess, I think it's more about not being excluded. But this is a topic best suited for the D&D section, so I won't go to deep into it as to not derail the thread.

[Rykjeklut]

Imagine taking games journalism seriously in 2018.

[Coin]

Sometimes you've got to recognize bait and/or a lose-lose situation for what it is and just ignore it. He bit and made himself look bad as a result. Haven't seen any of the big sites run with this though? Not that they're worth their salt either but seems a bit like a storm in a tea cup kind of deal.

 

The game has Cumans though, who are PoC, so it all seems kind of silly from both sides. The only thing that seems missing from a history POV are Jewish people but I can't profess to have explored the game thoroughly and not far enough in to know if Prague (where it would definitely makes sense) is in the game.

 

 

 

that is the typical situation that i fine too. but if i get 2 cumans in full armor, forget about it. its impossible to fight them

 

I feel like Locking Picking is meant for PC. i got 20hrs into the game and haven't picked a single lock yet fml.

 

Personal opinion but lock picking sucks on PC too. But then again, I've never been a fan of lock picking minigames in general (Elder Scrolls etc). The only locks I've picked have been as a result of the mod I linked earlier in the thread (it picks locks automatically so long as you're skilled enough for the lock in question, otherwise you get the minigame).

[Cosmic Gypsy]

Any tips for combat involving multiple opponents (when you're alone) ? I'm still very much coming to terms with the combat but it feels really awful in that scenario compared to 1v1 fights where it is thoroughly enjoyable.

I actually welcome this

I got a taste of realism when i played The Witcher 3, put it straight on the hardest difficulty, started a fight with 4 guys in a pub and got my ass kicked to the point i had to restart the game.

 

I'm tired of games like Assassins Creed in which you're basically a super hero capable of killing 10 people at once. In real life, and in a game that won't get boring after 5 minutes, being outnumbered by just 1-3 people will definitely result in your death. I haven't played it so i don't know how clunky and awkward it is to fight more than 1 person at a time, but it's definitely refreshing to know i'd probably get stabbed the f*ck up if i try play the unrealistic sword fighting super hero role.

Edited February 21, 2018 by Cosmic Gypsy

[Dryspace]

I've noticed a few comments here and elsewhere to the effect that lockpicking always stinks on PC.

 

There are probably games with poor implementations that I haven't played, but for my part, I have never thought that the Fallout 3/Skyrim version of lockpicking is particularly bad at all. It appears to be designed for analog sticks, but yet works acceptably with a mouse and keyboard. In my experience, the annoyance factor is on par with what I would expect--it's not supposed to be a given, of course.

 

Now, I played Oblivion for the first time two years ago, and the lockpicking in that game is incomprehensibly horrendous and devoid of any enjoyment whatever: You never know how fast the next pin is going to lift, so a good sense of rhythm is useless. The fact is that, unless one has the reaction time of a mongoose, it's based mostly on chance.

[BUT THE BENZ]

I was looking forward to reading some opinions on the gameplay/combat and such...good job guys....NOT!

that aside, given the game sparks "controversy" I might have to see what the fuzz is about