Chrismo Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Its been known that someone can take all their money out of the bank on one character. Leave a few hundred on another to spawn a tank/buzzard and go on a PV destruction spree and not pay for them. My suggestion is simple: make players with no money have to pay the PV charge anyways By subtracting their money into the negative. That way even though a tank costs only $200 theres no way they can just transfer a few funds and start again without paying the full amount which can come directly from Their maze account if ever they deposit again forcing them to either hold all their money on a char they dont abuse or pay. Either way legitimate players win and 12year old brats and adults with the same mental capacity are held accountable. Please feel free to flame all you want and tell us how much of a POS you are. Support comments most welcome Edited January 24, 2014 by Chrismo Trindalas and williampuri 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZakeBudek Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 How do you prevent a normal character from going into debt, and then they can't buy ammo in order to make money, or retrieve their car? Sure we'd all like to watch a griefer try to complete gang attack with a broken bottle, but it's not like we'd even get to watch. The existing solutions to leave the session, or vote to kick seem like enough. Chrismo and kilopm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 24, 2014 Author Share Posted January 24, 2014 They wont go into debt unless you are blowing up PVs, and sure you can leave and vote to kick but all those that dont know whats happening just vote to kick a random? Plus the guys already out the cash to replace his PV, simple dont go blowing up peoples rides unless you have the money to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorsballs Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Man, you guys sure like to take the fun out of absolutely everything. kilopm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNTLspazzm Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) How do you prevent a normal character from going into debt, and then they can't buy ammo in order to make money, or retrieve their car?...Selling cars and robbing stores are ways to make cash if you have $0 or less than that considering a debt system. Beating up Peds too. It's very tedious but hey you have to hustle, just like being broke in real life. Various vehicles give you weapons if you get in them for free also. It'll be hard to play that way, in my opinion though that's what you deserve for landing yourself into debt in the first place lol. I would include races, survivals, and missions from the start menu but I think you need money in pocket to participate in them. Edited January 24, 2014 by MNTLspazzm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Man, you guys sure like to take the fun out of absolutely everything. Fun? Ya making others poor instead of yourself who deserves it? If thats fun to you then yep. 95allday and williampuri 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRay Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 How do you prevent a normal character from going into debt, and then they can't buy ammo in order to make money, or retrieve their car?Really??? THAT is what you're worried about? I guess they'll just have to kill tons of people for $11 each until they get out of debt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHaTT3R Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Man, you guys sure like to take the fun out of absolutely everything. Only grievers are having fun grieving. Those on the receiving end of said grief, would hardly call it fun. I agree with the op. Whomever destroys another players PV, should be on the hook for the bill. The game would compensate, then bill the player. Maybe it could take a percentage of all future winnings, until the debt is cleared. This would negate the player being unable to accrue the necessity of the game. I cant see this ever actually happening and even if it did, someone would find a way to abuse it and many more legit/cool players would be hit by it. There is no getting around the BS in gaming. The only real answer is Single player and without constant updates/DLC's, that only lasts so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 I know cheaters will always find more ways to do it, just like patching the money wont last. But its a start and its easy to make up the debt if you arent constantly racking it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Oh madhatter i didnt know you were a mod, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It's not supposed to be like real life with debt and punishment!! It's f$&king GTA! Why's everybody bitching about the cost of everything and who should pay for what?? WTF?? Are there any lawyers in Los Santos? Cause they could make a lotta money with some of you guys!! Where's the courthouse?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornedturtle Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It's not supposed to be like real life with debt and punishment!! It's f$&king GTA! Why's everybody bitching about the cost of everything and who should pay for what?? WTF?? Are there any lawyers in Los Santos? Cause they could make a lotta money with some of you guys!! Where's the courthouse?? therr are lawyers....kent Rosenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) It's not supposed to be like real life with debt and punishment!! It's f$&king GTA! Why's everybody bitching about the cost of everything and who should pay for what?? WTF?? Are there any lawyers in Los Santos? Cause they could make a lotta money with some of you guys!! Where's the courthouse?? If youre not supposed to pay for PVs they wouldnt make you in the first place. I love how every person who thinks there should be some form of fairness and honor gets flamed you can keep coming with it. Pretend because its a game you can express how sh*tty of a person you are by taking advantage of it and others. I know sooner or later theyll fix it and youll find a new way till then ill love thinking theres some form of honor amongst theives. You like griefing i love upsetting them. I know how to avoid a lot of the problems but some dont shame on me for caring about people Edited January 27, 2014 by Chrismo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Hammer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 R* doesnt need a new system for broke griefers, just take the money from the second character. Take from Pocket , Bank Account, 2nd characters Pocket. If there's still no money put the bank account negative. How hard would that be. I cant believe this is an issue - Tanks not paying by design is a bigger injustice to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) It's not supposed to be like real life with debt and punishment!! It's f$&king GTA! Why's everybody bitching about the cost of everything and who should pay for what?? WTF?? Are there any lawyers in Los Santos? Cause they could make a lotta money with some of you guys!! Where's the courthouse?? If youre not supposed to pay for PVs they wouldnt make you in the first place. I love how every person who thinks there should be some form of fairness and honor gets flamed you can keep coming with it. Pretend because its a game you can express how sh*tty of a person you are by taking advantage of it and others. I know sooner or later theyll fix it and youll find a new way till then ill love thinking theres some form of honor amongst theives. You like griefing i love upsetting them. I know how to avoid a lot of the problems but some dont shame on me for caring about peopleJust because I disagree with you stupid ideas don't call me names and think I'm one those griefers, Eat sh*t! I'm not. Far from it. My character always pays the insurance when she blows that sh!t up!Fairness and honor in the game? Your playing the wrong game. In the words of the mechanic "not gonna happen" Did y'all play through the story mode? There was decisions to make that affect the game. Not everyone made the same ones as you. I dont think they should water the game down anymore to cater to whiners who didnt learn the system. Your in a world with 15 other murderous car thieves! Don't expect to be treated nicely all the time. My girl gets killed way more than she kills. Grow some skin if ya wanna play in free mode. Btw I'm not disagreeing that it is unfair but that's GTA... For every complaint someone has given the whiners the solution or work around. Learn them and stop bitching! Especially about the f$&king tanks already!! Here's another tip for you whiners!! Pay attention!! Drive a.Muscle car in freeroam the insurance is only a couple hundred!! Here's another!! You want a super car? Grab one off the street! I see Infernus' all the time. Just as IRL if you can't afford the insurance. Don't drive an expensive super car!! Again!! Don't try and water the game down!!! Edited January 27, 2014 by Malibu454 ll Noble 6 ll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingStar94 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It's not supposed to be like real life with debt and punishment!! It's f$&king GTA! Why's everybody bitching about the cost of everything and who should pay for what?? WTF?? Are there any lawyers in Los Santos? Cause they could make a lotta money with some of you guys!! Where's the courthouse?? If youre not supposed to pay for PVs they wouldnt make you in the first place. I love how every person who thinks there should be some form of fairness and honor gets flamed you can keep coming with it. Pretend because its a game you can express how sh*tty of a person you are by taking advantage of it and others. I know sooner or later theyll fix it and youll find a new way till then ill love thinking theres some form of honor amongst theives. You like griefing i love upsetting them. I know how to avoid a lot of the problems but some dont shame on me for caring about peopleJust because I disagree with you stupid ideas don't call me names and think I'm one those griefers, Eat sh*t! I'm not. Far from it. My character always pays the insurance when she blows that sh!t up!Fairness and honor in the game? Your playing the wrong game. In the words of the mechanic "not gonna happen" Did y'all play through the story mode? There was decisions to make that affect the game. Not everyone made the same ones as you. I dont think they should water the game down anymore to cater to whiners who didnt learn the system. Your in a world with 15 other murderous car thieves! Don't expect to be treated nicely all the time. My girl gets killed way more than she kills. Grow some skin if ya wanna play in free mode. Btw I'm not disagreeing that it is unfair but that's GTA... For every complaint someone has given the whiners the solution or work around. Learn them and stop bitching! Especially about the f$&king tanks already!! Here's another tip for you whiners!! Pay attention!! Drive a.Muscle car in freeroam the insurance is only a couple hundred!! Here's another!! You want a super car? Grab one off the street! I see Infernus' all the time. Just as IRL if you can't afford the insurance. Don't drive an expensive super car!! Again!! Don't try and water the game down!!! All of the probable solutions to counter tanks cost money either way. You sound like an ass clown trying to justify the blatant abuse of power by using a tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Cost money?? You sound like a f*cktard that didn't read everything I wrote! Read again! Sell a Baller for 9k that should cover your expenses for the night if you want to roam around picking roses when there's tanks in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane_Of_Legends Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 ERMAHGERD DONUTS! Trolls and griefers must be stopped! Or should they? Is GTA5 about unchecked mayhem, or should there be more limits? Put your polls in today! Malibu454 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 No Limits!! Party On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingStar94 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Cost money?? You sound like a f*cktard that didn't read everything I wrote! Read again! Sell a Baller for 9k that should cover your expenses for the night if you want to roam around picking roses when there's tanks in the room. I don't know about you, but I like to drive my sports cars I grinded for. I'm not going to drive in some sh*tty muscle car just because some guy wants to ruin everyone's experience. You're probably a scumbag tank user anyway, so you'll try to justify it anyway you can. Edited January 27, 2014 by FallingStar94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane_Of_Legends Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm all for reasonable limits. Passive mode should have been worked on more. Bad sport needs to be reworked. If you blow up someones ride, you should take the full bill. Can't pay, your stuff gets repossessed. Only exception is tanks. The owner of the tank should have to pay full bill to have it replaced. And it should be like, 500k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Well your wrong asshole!! I'm not a tank user I have one but very rarely use it. When I do, I have plenty of gta cash to foot the bill. So drive your sports car up in the country. The mountain roads are very scenic. If you think you could drive past a tank and not get blown up your very naive.. Or just a f$&king idiot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingStar94 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Well your wrong asshole!! I'm not a tank user I have one but very rarely use it. When I do, I have plenty of gta cash to foot the bill. So drive your sports car up in the country. The mountain roads are very scenic. If you think you could drive past a tank and not get blown up your very naive.. Or just a f$&king idiot!! I just can't fathom why you're defending the use of tanks then... You're the one being the asshole here, not me. Tanks shouldn't even be in this goddamn game... If they just took them away everything would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane_Of_Legends Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 If they made tanktard gameplay much much much harder, everything would be fine. I want to be able to buy a tank when I get to the right level. Not to use against other players. PvP power has no sway over me. I'd much rather fight on even terms than on the terms "I'm in a tank and you're dead". No fun in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingStar94 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) If they made tanktard gameplay much much much harder, everything would be fine. I want to be able to buy a tank when I get to the right level. Not to use against other players. PvP power has no sway over me. I'd much rather fight on even terms than on the terms "I'm in a tank and you're dead". No fun in that. You're one of the few good people left in this game, Bane... I take back what I said about you before. Edited January 27, 2014 by FallingStar94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Well your wrong asshole!! I'm not a tank user I have one but very rarely use it. When I do, I have plenty of gta cash to foot the bill. So drive your sports car up in the country. The mountain roads are very scenic. If you think you could drive past a tank and not get blown up your very naive.. Or just a f$&king idiot!! I just can't fathom why you're defending the use of tanks then... You're the one being the asshole here, not me. Tanks shouldn't even be in this goddamn game... If they just took them away everything would be fine.Tanks shouldn't be in the Game???That's the stupidest thing you've said yet. Have you played GTA before?? Now your just going Full Retard!! Tanks have been in the game forever. Like I said and I'm sure lots if others agree. THE GAME SHOULD NOT BE WATERED DOWN!! I'll take it straight please! The game is violent, brutal, and beautiful at the same time! And I wouldn't want it any other way!! I bet you want to see the PG version of every R rated movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaocicat Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) the best thing to do would be to make it like 100k to replace your tank. oh and to the idiot who says tanks shouldnt be in the game , if tanks were removed from the game this forum would explode with people whining that they are bored with the game . tanks have been part of GTA for nearly as long as GTA has been around , would be stupid to remove tanks from the game.. Edited January 27, 2014 by gtaocicat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu454 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Then whats next? Stickies cost 5000 each? They blow up you pv just as easy if not easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaocicat Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Then whats next? Stickies cost 5000 each? They blow up you pv just as easy if not easier. malibu there would still be tanks around just not as often . chill out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane_Of_Legends Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Then whats next? Stickies cost 5000 each? They blow up you pv just as easy if not easier. Relax mate. Stickies are set at a good price. The difference between a sticky and a tank is that one gives you the opportunity to destroy one vehicle, while the other gives you the ability to destroy countless vehicles, while also giving you the advantage of near invincibility. No one with rational thoughts is suggesting that tanks be removed all together. They just need to be harder to use as a griefing tool, and harder to reacquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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