tokyocean Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well I spoke to my folks and I've decided to go back. A few stipulations of course. -Laptop and game systems stay home -Mandatory attendance to 3 student achievement center conferences -Group therapy offered by the university -I'm now paying for a portion of the tuition -Grades to be shared with my father every week There's still some healing to go in the relationship with my father, but he feels this will work out. Are you sure you want to keep the laptop at home? Wouldn't it be convenient for research, studying, and so on? It wouldn't be that bad as long as you avoid being too distracted. I hope it all goes well for you. Please update us on your progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detective Phelps Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Well I spoke to my folks and I've decided to go back. A few stipulations of course. -Laptop and game systems stay home -Mandatory attendance to 3 student achievement center conferences -Group therapy offered by the university -I'm now paying for a portion of the tuition -Grades to be shared with my father every week There's still some healing to go in the relationship with my father, but he feels this will work out. Are you sure you want to keep the laptop at home? Wouldn't it be convenient for research, studying, and so on? It wouldn't be that bad as long as you avoid being too distracted. I hope it all goes well for you. Please update us on your progress! It might be too much of a distraction for him, even though it can be used for good. @OP Good choice. Now, I hope you work hard this time! Edited January 24, 2014 by Los Santos Police Department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well I spoke to my folks and I've decided to go back. A few stipulations of course. -Laptop and game systems stay home -Mandatory attendance to 3 student achievement center conferences -Group therapy offered by the university -I'm now paying for a portion of the tuition -Grades to be shared with my father every week There's still some healing to go in the relationship with my father, but he feels this will work out. That's all well and good, but you're still going to find something to waste your time on if you don't find motivation. Read everyone's responses in here long and hard, there's some good advice to be had, and watch the videos I posted, it seems stupid, but it definitely helps Raavi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco-polo Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Good luck matey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doland J. Trump Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 OP, read back over your first post. Your answer is staring at you in the face and it's no. If you can't motivate yourself to try hard and excel there's no point. This whole topic has reminded me how damn lazy our society has become. Pull yourself together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodDamnMaster Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 I've been meaning to follow-up on this. I ended up not going back in the end. It was a last minute change and what Raavi said about pissing on the opportunities of someone more worthy really hit home and made me realize that it was wrong for me to be there in the first place. For now I'm going back to work and I might start off taking 1 or 2 summer classes at the community college this summer. With that attitude, next semester won't be any different, if anything it will be even worse. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, if you continue to be a lazy good for nothing c*nt, things won't change for the better and you'll likely end up working some piss poor conveyor belt job with the only progress being a pat on the back from your sad excuse for a boss. Slowly but surely you'll waste away in your 1 bedroom shoebox flat, thinking "If only I listened to the voices of reason on gtaforums.." Want advise? I'll give you some. Either get your sh*t together or don't bother going back to college. Because if you do decide to go back and continue on doing what you have being doing this past semester, you'll not be only wasting your own time and your parent's hard earned money but also the University's. A lot of kids whom do have the ambition and the drive but don't have the means would kill for the opportunities you are casually pissing on. If I was your father I'd kicked your lazy ass out long ago. On a lighter note, just think of it like this. The future will happen regardless of what you decide to do now, so why not to push through and try to secure the best possible future for yourself. This is just the kick in the ass I needed. It's been a long time coming and I never thought I'd get it here of all places. For what it's worth, thank you, you prevented me from making a big mistake. Raavi and Abel. 2 Intel Core i9-9900k | Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750W | 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHzMSI GeForce RTX2070 | WD Blue 1TB HDD | Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512GBAntec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower | MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Sort of related, but what can you do with a philosophy degree, besides get a Doctoral degree and go on to teach philosophy again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwalker83 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Having a degree is one thing but finding getting a job is another! However, I agree with the majority of the posts here that you are more likely to land a high paying job with a degree beit from University/College or a Vocational College than without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Now you've gotta get motivated and find something better to do Raavi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiophile Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Nothing quite motivates like fear. That's what prevents me from staying in bed when I have to go to class. The fear of where my life will go if I f*ck it up because while it's true you don't need a degree to do well in life, you're going to make it damn harder and have less opportunities. Doors close for you or never open. And since you don't have motivation to begin with, I really don't know where you're going to end up, bro. If you have no motivation to begin with and no degree, you have to actually, you know....work harder to get somewhere in life and find opportunities. Frank Brown and Finn 7 five 11 2 Intel i5-4590 3.3GHz | EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB | 16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM | MSI Z97 G-45Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD and Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD | Audioengine A2 Speakers Corsair K70 RGB Rapidfire | Corsair M65 Mouse | Fractal Design R5 Case | EVGA G2 850WAudio-Technica M50x Headphones and Sennheiser HD 558 | LG 34UC88 1440p Ultrawide Curved Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Having a degree is one thing but finding getting a job is another! However, I agree with the majority of the posts here that you are more likely to land a high paying job with a degree beit from University/College or a Vocational College than without one. This. Having a degree will increase your chances of living comfortably exponentially. My parents, who both didn't go to college, have had trouble putting food on the table ever since I can remember. But, the people some of them work with, who have degrees from local universities and colleges, are making a much more comfortable wage and don't have that issue. Also, like Audiophile said, you can bust your ass now and get a degree, or you can live in a continuous struggle and have to bust your ass for the rest of your life just to have a chance. It's up to you. I'd also suggest avoiding any online classes with your work ethic, they require more motivation, it seems, than regular in-person classes. Audiophile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) There are countless career opportunities for someone with no tertiary education. Marketing, merchandising, sales (cars, fridges etc. which seem like a dead end job but it's dynamic and you work on commission), real estate, customer service and publishing. I know for a fact that all of these industries take on young people with no experience and no qualifications- although some experience maybe necessary, a high-end customer service position (taking clients out for drinks etc.) will like you to have worked in a call centre or help desk for a couple of years, a car dealership will want you to have worked in a games store or whatever, but they're even pretty flexible about that if you say you're willing to learn and aren't going to change your mind about working there in a few months. Keep in mind though, I live in one of the world's biggest cities, amongst sky scrapers and whatnot. And I believe El_diablo (who's giving you similar advice) lives in Denver, which is also a big city. If you live in a little town in the midwest, you might not have the same opportunities. Here it is in black and white: you gotta do something. You can work in the industries I mentioned or do something creative if school isn't for you, but that will probably involve moving somewhere more fast-paced and working on a few skills (most interviewers are idiots and will hire anyone who charms them into think they're competent). But if you were in a position to move somewhere else and teach yourself skills, you wouldn't need a job, right? School may be your best bet, though I'd suggest going to a technical college if you find university so painfully unengaging. Your biggest problem seems to be that you lack discipline and can't balance work and play. If you play xbox and watch porn all day, you aren't exactly going to look forward to getting home from uni so you can play xbox and watch porn. Honestly, I think the problem is that you lack a social circle. You should be getting a drink with friends after school or getting high and playing xbox with them. I think having friends will make your downtime more exciting and help you draw a more indelible line between work and play. Also, if you were happier, you'd find it easier to get passionate about something. tl;dr there's plenty of opportunities but if you have no friends and can't tear yourself away from the computer, you probably aren't in a position to be rushing into your future career. You have a lot to work on. The problem isn't necessarily that you're just too lazy to get anything done, it's that your life is sh*t (if you don't mind me saying) and you aren't in a position to compete with people who loves themselves and love their lives. Edited February 10, 2014 by Melchior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregx Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 You're just a lazy boy undecided, I finished my university to my 32 years old, have a stable job and my home, travel when I can and cohabit with my friends.Only you can make the decision and not let others decide for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJpostman Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I always hated school and found it hard to stay motivated too so I dropped out of high school... not always a good decision but it worked for me. Got into the trades and became a journeyman carpenter (second highest marks in my 4th year class because I was interested in what I was leaning) by 24 and really enjoy the work and make a pretty decent wage. You still have to be willing to work hard though. Some people would look down on the trades but I know quite a few friends with college degrees still having to work minimum wage jobs because of the competition coming out of college/university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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