Rockstar commiting fraud.....

[Varios Los Aztecas]

 

 

 

 

 

Had no idea so many lawyers posted on these forums.

 

You don't need to be a lawyer to have some common sense regarding legal matters.

 

 

Point Im making is, if there were some illegality going on, actual lawyers would have picked up on it wayyyyyyyyy before a bunch of people on a forum with zero legal training.

 

But then Ive been using various gaming forums for years, everyone always thinks they know better than the developers/lawyers/experts, go figure.

 

 

I can see the point you are trying to make, but I don't think it is a particularly fair one to put forth, that is unless you happen to know each and every poster's profession and/or education.

 

 

Well how about this. If you think for one second that Rockstar have committed fraud with GTA , and the only person to notice this is "thecrazypenguin" from GTAF, then you're welcome to that opinion. I personally wouldnt take legal advice from ANYONE I met on the internet. Next time you get in trouble with the law, don't hire a lawyer, just take your tablet into the courtroom and let "thecrazypenguin" represent you, see how that goes.

 

 

Did you not read the thread, or are you just making a funny? Legitimate question, because I can't tell.

 

Here's a hypothetical situation for you, in a similar ball park (monetary) as the OP's problem.

 

You go to Subway, order a chicken <whatever> sub. You receive said sub, only to find there is no chicken to be found. Are you going to take them to court over that to get your money back or a replacement sub, or are you going to complain to the person who served you/the manager?

 

 

LOL - and how is that situation similar to this? OP opened his GTA V box and there was no disc inside?

 

Explain to me Mr Lawyer Man how R* have committed fraud? Go? Forget retarded sandwich metaphors, if you're such an expert in legal matters, explain to me how fraud has been committed?

Edited January 19, 2014 by Varios Los Aztecas

[malcolmfunktion]

 

 

It says 62 million spent on your social club account dude, your cash cards are long gone lol.

LOL. Are you f*cking serious? Haha

Yup

 

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/member/thatcrazypenguin/games/gtav/career/overview/gtaonline

 

Looks like OP might have told a little white lie.

Tut tut.

 

Now let's see,

 

I've earned around 5 or 6mil total legit (roughly)

 

I got gifted about 530mil

 

I've spent around 80mil of that...

 

And now I'm left with $520,000 after R* pulled their C.A.B move...

 

See you in court R*, you fraudsters! LOL

[SmokeDat]

OP you have ZERO legal recourse against R*. Let me say it again in case you really are that stupid:

 

You have ZERO legal recourse against R*.

 

Especially a multi billion dollar company like R*.

 

The best you can hope for is a refund of your money. And that WILL TAKE TIME. No matter how much of a legal tough guy wanabe you think you are.

 

Smh.

[Varios Los Aztecas]

OP you have ZERO legal recourse against R*. Let me say it again in case you really are that stupid:

 

You have ZERO legal recourse against R*.

 

Especially a multi billion dollar company like R*.

 

The best you can hope for is a refund of your money. And that WILL TAKE TIME. No matter how much of a legal tough guy wanabe you think you are.

 

Smh.

 

I think you misunderstand, all these people are actual lawyers.

[Coin]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Had no idea so many lawyers posted on these forums.

 

You don't need to be a lawyer to have some common sense regarding legal matters.

 

 

Point Im making is, if there were some illegality going on, actual lawyers would have picked up on it wayyyyyyyyy before a bunch of people on a forum with zero legal training.

 

But then Ive been using various gaming forums for years, everyone always thinks they know better than the developers/lawyers/experts, go figure.

 

 

I can see the point you are trying to make, but I don't think it is a particularly fair one to put forth, that is unless you happen to know each and every poster's profession and/or education.

 

 

Well how about this. If you think for one second that Rockstar have committed fraud with GTA , and the only person to notice this is "thecrazypenguin" from GTAF, then you're welcome to that opinion. I personally wouldnt take legal advice from ANYONE I met on the internet. Next time you get in trouble with the law, don't hire a lawyer, just take your tablet into the courtroom and let "thecrazypenguin" represent you, see how that goes.

 

 

Did you not read the thread, or are you just making a funny? Legitimate question, because I can't tell.

 

Here's a hypothetical situation for you, in a similar ball park (monetary) as the OP's problem.

 

You go to Subway, order a chicken <whatever> sub. You receive said sub, only to find there is no chicken to be found. Are you going to take them to court over that to get your money back or a replacement sub, or are you going to complain to the person who served you/the manager?

 

 

LOL - and how is that situation similar to this? OP opened his GTA V box and there was no disc inside?

 

Explain to me Mr Lawyer Man how R* have committed fraud? Go? Forget retarded sandwich metaphors, if you're such an expert in legal matters, explain to me how fraud has been committed?

 

 

I don't know why you couldn't just be honest and admit you didn't read the thread at all, instead of proving it in a round about way.

 

Let me summarise it for you, ITT: OP makes claims of fraud. Everyone else disagrees. And then there's you.

[SmokeDat]

 

I think you misunderstand, all these people are actual lawyers.

Ah, my mistake...could have sworn they was just kids on a forum...am I in the wrong place then ? Do these "lawyers" know where they are ? Holy crap...I am in the f*cking matrix... Neo HELP ME!

[Varios Los Aztecas]

 

 

I think you misunderstand, all these people are actual lawyers.

Ah, my mistake...could have sworn they was just kids on a forum...am I in the wrong place then ? Do these "lawyers" know where they are ? Holy crap...I am in the f*cking matrix... Neo HELP ME!

 

 

Same, I always assumed these threads were created by butthurt forum know-nothings, but Ive learned today that GTAF is actually where trained lawyers come to discuss important fraud cases pre-court. Learn something new every day.

[Soran Is On]

2 mil eh. Bought tank and buzzard and chadders eh?

 

GTFO

[charleyefc]

more fool you for buying stupid cash cards in the first place.

[Zwenkwiel]

f*ck the law

are we even playing the same game here? XD

go take your sh*t back by force you pussy

[rlr149]

 

 

 

I think you misunderstand, all these people are actual lawyers.

Ah, my mistake...could have sworn they was just kids on a forum...am I in the wrong place then ? Do these "lawyers" know where they are ? Holy crap...I am in the f*cking matrix... Neo HELP ME!

 

 

Same, I always assumed these threads were created by butthurt forum know-nothings, but Ive learned today that GTAF is actually where trained lawyers come to discuss important fraud cases pre-court. Learn something new every day.

 

not a lawyer, been on a jury though, the evidence was put forth and i and others decided on its veracity.

 

in this case the OP is a lying sack of sh*t, i find for R*.

[Malibu454]

Just so you guys know The social club stats are not accurate

It showed my other acct spent over a billion

Which didnt happen.

Spent more like 20-30million

To OP

Some have said by calling R* (i know thats a f*cking pia) But they have gotten faster results that way.

Post up when you get a reply.

[Metal Slime]

All in favor of OP's innocence.

[StewNorth]

I am LOVING this thread.

 

I don't have any popcorn, so crisps will have do to do.

[Tabula Rasa]

I have not seen or heard of a single legitimate case where a player lost legitimate money from the cash wipe.

[Malibu454]

sh*t got all mixed together. So how would anyone know.

My girl spent like crazy.

The only people not affected were ones that didnt get gifted money.

They mostly played private lobbies so they missed out on all the fun!!

[cwo-reynolds]

[email protected] OP wanting to spend thousands of dollars to sue over a cash card that costs like 20 bucks. How stupid can people be?

 

Btw OP I'm glad it happened to you, serves you right for glitching and cheating. This thread put a big smile on my face!

Only costs as much as the filing fee for the paperwork costs. No lawyer needed, a simple consult would suffice.

 

 

In all seriousness don't go all Jonny Cochran on us before r* support gets back to you and you follow the steps to retrieve your purchase.

Edited January 19, 2014 by cwo-reynolds

[ham_hands]

From what i've read R* seems pretty confident that no purchased funds were taken in the sweep. OP is a troll IMO.

[Zwenkwiel]

cwo-reynolds, on 19 Jan 2014 - 5:48 PM, said:

 

GTALover2014, on 19 Jan 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

[email protected] OP wanting to spend thousands of dollars to sue over a cash card that costs like 20 bucks. How stupid can people be?

 

Btw OP I'm glad it happened to you, serves you right for glitching and cheating. This thread put a big smile on my face!

Only costs as much as the filing fee for the paperwork costs. No lawyer needed, a simple consult would suffice.

 

 

 

besides if you win doesn't the losing side have to pay for your legal costs?

 

I'd say go for it OP

laywer up good and go for it!

Edited January 19, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[BBQ RIBS]

stupid little fanboys backing rockstar even to the point of when they are actully stealing from people!, this isnt about a f*cking game people this is real life money being spent and then fraud being committed by the company taking back legally paid for items for no good reason. I dont give a f*ck of your opinions on the what when and how, just because rockstar are a games company does not mean they are not bound by consumer laws! I simply wanted to find out if anyone else was having the same issues?, f*ck knows it was wrong of me to expect a sensible reply on this f*cking forum!!!!!!

 

f*ck it, I only pray it happens to the rest of you! then maybe you wont be such a bunch of f*cking twats about it.

maybe when its your hard earnt money being stolen you wont act like there's nothing wrong with it for the sake of backing your `favourite games company` grow the f*ck up and realize there is more going on here then simply money being lost in a video game(although I guess i shouldn't expect a lot of you to know the value of money or anything about the legal process as the majority of you probably still withdraw from the bank of mommy and daddy anyway!)

 

 

Well, then f*ck R* and f*ck you too!

[jbarb78]

Hey, where did OP go? Did he finally realize he herped the derp with this thread?

[am30]

No, it is not fraud. They did not get something out of you by deceiving you.

 

All you need to do is present them with evidence that you purchased a cash card and tell them how much you think you should have left from it. They should be able to determine how much they owe you but I wouldn't expect a quick resolution.

[j0hn_d0e]

Would now be a good time to say, I am a lawyer ?

 

No ?

 

Okay, I'll stay quiet.

[livejoker]

I'm actually interested in what course of actions the OP will take. Please keep us updated.

[Coin]

Would now be a good time to say, I am a lawyer ?

 

No ?

 

Okay, I'll stay quiet.

 

The perfect time.

[Ataricade]

The people crying "I'm gonna sue!" Are probably just kids that don't know any better. The terms when you buy the cash cards clearly say they can take it away anytime they want.

 

Besides most of these complaints are from folks who think their purchased cash was somehow reserved while they blew millions of hacker cash. It wasn't and your cash spent before the hacker cash did. Get over it.

[Varios Los Aztecas]

Im having Bar-b-que for dinner

[madmanaz]

I really wish people would learn to read. Unfortunately, entertainment comes in the form of audio and video these days and most will barely even make it to the end of my post before they give up and realize how stupid they are. Then again, they're arguing on the internet about things that barely matter. OP, you were wronged, Rockstar will fix it. Other people were affected by this like you and some people didn't see any changes and still have billions. RockStar, overall, is a decent company. If any of you had ever designed a real website, not a geocifies, or programmed a video game, you'd realize just how hard their job is. Same goes with any company. Be thankful Rockstar isn't working with EA. Then you'd all be robbed blind and EA replies to emails with "lol sorry boss *stupid emoticon*"

[blakeney]

Yeah go ahead and "sue" Rockstar and get your ass tore the hell up in court when they bust out the T&C in fine print and then pay $5000 for your lawyer, all over a $20 cash card.

this^

 

Some "folk" crack me up with their lack of experience in the real world lol...

[Eamonn3]

Make sure you have the receipts that you bought cash cards. So that way you have solid evidence to back up your claims and then Rockstar should fix the issue. If they are a respectable business.