Do you like it spicy?

[Captain Arthur]

 

Hahaha I like jalapeños, and most spicy food, especially Indian food.

 

If something is too spicy, like food with extra extra extra extra spicy sauce, then I just don't eat it, as food is meant to be tasty, not painful.

 

I do, I'm crazy about spicy food.

[Osho]

I don't meant to start a pissing contest but both of those blogs (not articles, blogs) are just as subjective as my expression of views about them. I said that I did not believe there was any scientific evidence to suggest that an intake of foods high in Capsaicin has negative implications for healthy people, because the insinuation of your posts were that spicy food was measurably harmful.Now, if you aren't saying that spicy foods are measurably harmful, or are instead saying that under certain conditions spicy foods can be harmful, and it's an issue of intent versus implication, then that's fine. But I believe what Finn is saying, as was I, is that your comments on the matter do basically read as "spicy food has negative health implications". Which is simply not true. Many of the supposed "harms" referred to in the two blogs- such as bad breath- are subjective; and others- such as increased likelihood of stomach ulcers- aren't backed by science and are basically just assumptions made by people who don't understand the way the human body reacts to Capsaicin.

Now, how should I reply to two individuals with clear case of their own confusion of understanding the replies and draw out their own conclusions and importantly one being a moderator?

1. Articles and Blogs are very much commonly used by people interchangeably.

2. Those links are simply posted for every one to read. Did I say or expressed my views about how right or wrong they appear, be it in any manner you look at it?

NO. I am not an expert though my personal experiences are more than enough to make a small contribution to the topic.

And, if you read my opinions they simply show a general take on how spicy foods are not good for health in the long run.

Excess or continuous intake do lead to ulcers, acidity, etc. I did not pick capsaicin specifically but spicy foods can be viewed on the basis of who consumes what type of it.

3. Where was Finn4life all this time when I last replied? Suddenly he gets this urge (after 20 hours) to quote me and explain it although I never take any one's intent in a wrong way but these should be handled at that particular time and moment when discussion was active to avoid any confusions later rather at will quote some one, speak on others behalf and prove that indeed there is some mistake on my part to understand what you meant.

If I've got any doubts then I raise it first to seek his clarification and later show him what's the confusion was all about.

4. You do not mean to start a pissing contest?

Glad to know!

I often easily avoid it by applying some common sense and respect others stay here in the public forum

Edited January 19, 2014 by Osho

[theadmiral]

Another great spicy one is the world famous Hyderabadi Haleem! Very tasty with rice but super hot sometimes!

 

[Mr. Crowley]

Love spicy stuff.

If it doesn't make me sweat and my nose run then it's not hot enough.

[sivispacem]

And, if you read my opinions they simply show a general take on how spicy foods are not good for health in the long run.

Excess or continuous intake do lead to ulcers, acidity, etc. I did not pick capsaicin specifically but spicy foods can be viewed on the basis of who consumes what type of it.

This is the bit I have an issue with.

 

There is no medical evidence to suggest that excessive or continuous consumption of foods containing Capsaicin results in increases in stomach acidity, peptic ulcers or damage. In fact, there's a wealth of medical evidence suggesting the exact opposite is true, and that intake of Capsaicin can be used to regulate peptic ulcers.

 

Spices as Alternative Agents for Gastric Ulcer Prevention and Treatment

 

 

Chilli is believed to be detrimental to the gastric mucosa, however, its active ingredient capsaicin, decreases acid secretion and activates the defensive system by enhancing mucus, alkali secretions as well as mucosal microcirculation and hence, it prevents ulcer formation. Furthermore, capsaicin stimulates afferent neurons in the stomach and transmits signals to the central nervous system, which trigger an anti-inflammatory response and gastroprotection.

Botanical Medicines sectuion on Capsicum

 

Spicy food and the stomach. Evaluation by videoendoscopy (Paywalled)- the conclusion of this being that there was no evidence that intake of chilli caused mucosal damage or abnormality.

 

By the way, Capsaicin is just the active ingredient in chillies.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

I don't meant to start a pissing contest but both of those blogs (not articles, blogs) are just as subjective as my expression of views about them. I said that I did not believe there was any scientific evidence to suggest that an intake of foods high in Capsaicin has negative implications for healthy people, because the insinuation of your posts were that spicy food was measurably harmful.Now, if you aren't saying that spicy foods are measurably harmful, or are instead saying that under certain conditions spicy foods can be harmful, and it's an issue of intent versus implication, then that's fine. But I believe what Finn is saying, as was I, is that your comments on the matter do basically read as "spicy food has negative health implications". Which is simply not true. Many of the supposed "harms" referred to in the two blogs- such as bad breath- are subjective; and others- such as increased likelihood of stomach ulcers- aren't backed by science and are basically just assumptions made by people who don't understand the way the human body reacts to Capsaicin.

Now, how should I reply to two individuals with clear case of their own confusion of understanding the replies and draw out their own conclusions and importantly one being a moderator?

3. Where was Finn4life all this time when I last replied? Suddenly he gets this urge (after 20 hours) to quote me and explain it although I never take any one's intent in a wrong way but these should be handled at that particular time and moment when discussion was active to avoid any confusions later rather at will quote some one, speak on others behalf and prove that indeed there is some mistake on my part to understand what you meant.

If I've got any doubts then I raise it first to seek his clarification and later show him what's the confusion was all about.

4. You do not mean to start a pissing contest?

Glad to know!

I often easily avoid it by applying some common sense and respect others stay here in the public forum

 

1. Well I'm sorry, but it was my understanding that on a forum you read other people's posts and try and draw a conclusion from what they are saying.

 

3. Where was I? Oh you know, out living life, being busy, not reading this topic, I don't see why that really matters, I should be able to quote a post from you from 6 months ago and question you on it provided it's still relevant to whatever discussion is occurring. And Yes I was pointing out a mistake being made, this forum is for discussion, I was discussing your post and how you implied that spicy food was bad for you, but I do not believe that such a conclusion can be made, and as outlined by Sivis above me, such a conclusion actually seems to be incorrect.

 

4. So questioning someone on something they said which is not entirely correct is disrespectful? If anything I would think it a sign of respect to another individual to bring issues up with them to better them on their quest for knowledge and life-learning. I could have simply ignored your post and we'd all be bored, and you would still be sitting around thinking that spices are inherently bad for your health.

 

 

 

[Osho]

@ sivispacem

 

Sir, that's the problem. Do you believe in individual personal experiences?

We should not rely too much on what medical evidences or internet shows us. That's limited to what's known to them as well.

In India, Acidity is a very popular and common term.

I have quite a few real life examples that clearly show the problems of excessive intake of spicy foods can cause serious issues in the long run.

 

That's all I got to say.

[theadmiral]

You know what else is great? Chili Bhaji!!

 

[BrownBear]

I work in an Indian restaurant so I am definitely a fan of spicy food, some dishes like phall are too much though.

[Osho]

http://www.medindia.net/homeremedies/acidity.asp

 

Here is the link to a reliable and trusted source (article) but, oh well, to each it's own.

[sivispacem]

That's all I got to say.

 

Well it clearly isn't, when:

 

http://www.medindia.net/homeremedies/acidity.asp

 

Here is the link to a reliable and trusted source (article) but, oh well, to each it's own.

 

So you can talk about subjective opinions all you want, but the correlation != causation point still stands, and if the medical evidence says there's no link between excess stomach acidity and consumption of spicy food, I'm inclined to believe it regardless of what you and some random self-help site say.

[theadmiral]

How do you all feel about a good Thai green curry? Nice and spicy!

 

[Osho]

 

That's all I got to say.

 

Well it clearly isn't, when:

 

http://www.medindia.net/homeremedies/acidity.asp

Here is the link to a reliable and trusted source (article) but, oh well, to each it's own.

 

So you can talk about subjective opinions all you want, but the correlation != causation point still stands, and if the medical evidence says there's no link between excess stomach acidity and consumption of spicy food, I'm inclined to believe it regardless of what you and some random self-help site say.

When did I force you to believe me?

 

You and Finn4life are reacting as if I am stating a fact, that's not true.

 

I am just like others replying to the topic. Both of you quoted me and in response all I did was speaking my views on the basis of the real experiences.

 

Sadly, both of you are making it an issue of right or wrong and, for some reason, want to prove me wrong.

 

I rest my case here. It's not how you address in a public forum by proving each other or every person wrong since no one is seeking an expert opinion from you.

Aren't you basing your arguments on links or evidences picked from online sources?

 

In my case, it turns into a subjective opinion when I am not even picking a word from any link or source as a support to my reply. Simply meant to share it. That's all.

 

Can I request you to end this argument here?

[sivispacem]

I rest my case here. It's not how you address in a public forum by proving each other or every person wrong since no one is seeking an expert opinion from you.

 

Not every single person, just you, as you're the one who made the categorical claim that spicy food was measurably harmful. Which you've several times claimed you didn't make, and then made again, so in reality you've entirely lost me, and it seems the point.

 

Aren't you basing your arguments on links or evidences picked from online sources?

 

No, from academic journals. The fact they are available online doesn't make them any less reputable.

 

Can I request you to end this argument here?

 

Gladly, if by "you" you mean "we".

 

I hid your second post as double posting is against the rules, let this serve as a reminder of that.

[theadmiral]

I don't think the whole "Spicy food causes acne" thing is at all accurate. I eat spicy food 90 percent of the time and I don't have any pimples or acne. Maybe it is just my experience with it.

[MarshalMoo]

Spicy food is only harmful if you're a bro with something to prove or a valley girl who doesn't chew a hot, hot, hot pepper the first time she's challenged to eat one. Re:

Edited January 19, 2014 by JIMHO

[Captain Arthur]

I don't think the whole "Spicy food causes acne" thing is at all accurate. I eat spicy food 90 percent of the time and I don't have any pimples or acne. Maybe it is just my experience with it.

Yeah, I agree. Even though I get zits every once in a while.

[Osho]

 

I rest my case here. It's not how you address in a public forum by proving each other or every person wrong since no one is seeking an expert opinion from you.

 

Not every single person, just you, as you're the one who made the categorical claim that spicy food was measurably harmful. Which you've several times claimed you didn't make, and then made again, so in reality you've entirely lost me, and it seems the point.

 

Aren't you basing your arguments on links or evidences picked from online sources?

 

No, from academic journals. The fact they are available online doesn't make them any less reputable.

 

Can I request you to end this argument here?

 

Gladly, if by "you" you mean "we".

 

I hid your second post as double posting is against the rules, let this serve as a reminder of that.

You are simply taking the matter to what you think it's proper without understanding the perfect and easy example clear and 100% accurately proven in India.

I am not claiming that it's a fact (although it is) but I am not qualified to pass a judgement.

Let me say this on record. YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG in believing it doesn't cause acidity to what the link abv was posted clearly explains.

Do you think those doctors and professionals who are serving for a noble cause and helping in spreading knowledge are less reputable?

Why? Because they are a part of the organisation in India and not as popular as your sources?

Is this a joke? How can you so bluntly ignore it without reading the source?

 

Alright, we end this here. I do not stand wrong, that's all I mean.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Osho

[sivispacem]

What part of "end this" didn't you understand? Besides, are you claiming that three academic papers are wrong because one self-help website disagrees? If that's all you have to say on the matter then I can just handily ignore your opinion.

[Osho]

Because you are not on the right track.

Claiming it has no harmful effects is right?

The academic papers are based on what examples of spices or ingredient that I would like to know?

India is a land of spices and it includes several varieties.

I could readily scan the medical reports and paste it here but I do not want to prove myself right or wrong since that's not my intention.

If someone tries to deliberately prove me wrong then for any reason it wont be tolerated.

Since I never claim my replies as facts but opinions and simply my experience.

I feel we should just stop this matter here without any questions asked further.

Done.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Osho

[sivispacem]

They're all based on Capsaicin as I've already specified. Or in layman's terms, Chilli. But yes, let's end this discussion now.

[EphemeralStar]

 

^ Is life.. sandwiches, burgers, fries, anything...

Tabasco tastes sweet to me. I love it though.

[I cucked Alex Jones]

I sometimes dump a little Tabasco in my water. Is that crazy or just really weird?

[EphemeralStar]

That's really gross.

[I cucked Alex Jones]

I knew this guy who drank Tabasco straight from the bottle, so I never viewed it as gross.

 

Anyways, Tabasco + vodka + V8 = No one can call you an alcoholic is you decide to drink at 9 AM.

[Mr Rabbit]

I love spicy food, I have a chicken vindaloo, would have phaal but phaal imo is pretty meh tasting when you get it take-away and not fresh. mmmmmmm

 

But my favourite 2 dishes are these 2 Nepalese beauties

The Chicken Nepali

 

And the Chicken Gorkhali

Except the place i get it from does not use skewers

 

Unfortunately this Nepalese place is in manchester, miles away from here. The Nepali in particular there is just to die for. These 2 dishes are not that spicy though, contrary to what it says on the menu, well not in the typical sense. They aren't fiery-spicy, but after you finish it you feel it. really yummy. I want some now

 

I went through a period of just getting some bread, some hot sauce, putting the hot sauce on the bread, then spreading it around the bread, then eating the bread. I like the tingle and the taste of it but I hate eating actual chilli peppers, not too spicy but they are just... bleurgh

 

If I have too much spicy stuff I get a bit sick the next morning but worth it

Edited January 20, 2014 by Flynny

[EphemeralStar]

I knew this guy who drank Tabasco straight from the bottle, so I never viewed it as gross.

 

Anyways, Tabasco + vodka + V8 = No one can call you an alcoholic is you decide to drink at 9 AM.

Haha yeah I do that too, but I mean putting it in your water sounds gross. It ain't no crystal light.

[Moonshield]

I love spicy foods and the flavors that chiles and spicy items add to foods, and the feeling you get when eating capsaicin. Chilis (I recently won an ameteur chili competition for best 'spicy' chili), salsas, buffalo wings, korean bbq (bulgogi is my f*ckin' jam), vietnamese pho (most other vietnamese stuff I've had isn't spicy), thai curries, indian foods (though I've never had phaal).

 

I recently had a beer aged with habañero and scorpion chiles - it was tough to drink admittedly (the beer hit the back of the palate where you really don't want spice hitting). I must have a thing about the capsaicin effect with mucous glands though, because I love that feeling.

[I cucked Alex Jones]

 

I knew this guy who drank Tabasco straight from the bottle, so I never viewed it as gross.

 

Anyways, Tabasco + vodka + V8 = No one can call you an alcoholic is you decide to drink at 9 AM.

Haha yeah I do that too, but I mean putting it in your water sounds gross. It ain't no crystal light.

 

I only put in two or three drops. You can't really taste it, but it adds a certain zest to it. Kind of like lemon juice. (Which is a great way to fight acne btw)

[lol232]

Damn yes, I f*cking love spicy food.

I like Salty and Spicy; and I also like Sweet and Spicy.

 

Once in my class when we were sightseeing, we ordered some sandwiches, I ordered one with all kinds of spicy sh*t, one little c*nt that didn't order one but just begged everyone to try their sandwich, managed to sneak and snap a bite of it.

After that he actually cried because it was ridiculously spicy.