Hitman 6

[Lilіth]

Releases in August. This one unlocks in a few hours.

[dudclub55]

Yeah.. a small portion of the game, not the entire thing.

[Lilіth]

I don't mind it personally. Plus Deus Ex MD had pre-order Tiers.

[dudclub55]

Yeah.. thankfully they did away with that poo.

[Lilіth]

And done. Even chipped in ROTR.

[Saliva]

The physical Hitman disc has been delayed until January 2017.

[Mr Webby]

The physical Hitman disc has been delayed until January 2017.

 

I hate companies that do this. They have deliberately done this so people can pre-order and be more hyped. Even if it wasn't intentional because they did it last year too for the reason of "more time to put more things into the game", I don't know why they even bother "confirming" a release date when they are going to apparently add more things to the game. They should do that when the whole game is complete and when the top guys of the company sign it off then they should confirm a release date. sh*t like this just annoys me and I'm not going to download the first episode or pre-order. Bullsh*t

[Rockstar Vienna]

I'm surprised how huge and well made the Paris level is! The Beta (Prologue) is nothing compared to showstopper. I'm also surprised how many achievements, challenges and other stuff they put into the first episode. I still don't like the episodic approach but if every future level is similar in terms of size, possibilities etc. i'll be happy.

[Niobium]

 

 

BAD

[Creed Bratton]

I just read some Steam reviews. Wow. So aside from the fact that it's now an episodic game, it's also plagued with poor performance, insane loading times and always online + server problems on launch. It's like Square-Enix is jealous of all the negative attention that Ubisoft and EA have been blessed with and they want in on that action.

[Shadowfennekin]

I saw some gameplay of the Paris level. It looks cool, but I'm still not getting this game until it's out fully.

I hate episodic stuff.

 

The physical Hitman disc has been delayed until January 2017.

*sigh*

[Member's Only]

Ugh, just tried it on a friend's PC.

 

Disturbing performance. Denuvo f*cking sucks huge dicks.

[PhoGarrett]

Don't burn me on the stake for this, but I'm honestly not all that mad at the episodic business plan they have lined up for the game. If it means we still get awesome maps and they actually come out sooner, you won't see me complaining. They're only 15 bucks in the US of A so buying an episode is a bit better then perhaps buying the full retail price if you buy them the day they drop The levels are also so detailed and big that giving players time to master a certain map is pretty f*cking cool to do when you finally get around to it. Trust me guys, outside of the dumb always online crap and bad performance on PC, there's definitely a great game in there.

 

PR for the game isn't too shabby but kind of creepy if taken out of context... They're making a contract or mission or whatever where you guys can vote if you want to assassinate Gary Cole or Gary Busey. Check out the link if you're interested in killing the asshole boss from Office Space or taking Hollywood's favorite nutjob's last breath: http://chooseyourhit.com/#home

[Osho]

It sounds like Hitman's online saves issue is here to stay. Drops game if you go offline "to ensure player-progress of the live content is correct".

 

Wow. They're now unashamedly lying to the customers by insisting that they explained to fans during announcement, how they are creating a live game????

I don't remember them saying that single player game will require a constant internet connection, nor clearly specified the exact extent of internet requirement in accessing the game's offline component.

Clearly, they have lied to secure the pre-orders otherwise who in their right mind would bother to buy a singleplayer game if it required constant internet connection to play it?

The publishers are seriously trying to cheat the customers in broad daylight with that PR cop out blaming the customers, not their sh*tty practices and misleading advertising.

So glad that I didn't order this and waited to see whether these corporates are even worth paying a single dime and earn my trust.

The whole point of playing Hitman was the offline appeal more than the online component they're trying to shoehorn some always online crap that acts as a glorified DRM. This isn't a f*ckin' MMO. SP is what makes Hitman, a Hitman game.

Man, I'm so pissed right now because the game seems to be really great from what I'm reading and has so much potential to improve over time with newer updates.

But such horrible practices just ruin the fun out of the game.

Good to see the backlash already on Hitmanforum and Steam.

The company seriously seems way out of touch with what the fans want, and out of their minds as they are losing the players interest from the game.

Here's the Poll -: Should Hitman Run Offline?

 

E:Link to poll added.

Edited March 25, 2016 by Osho

[Dr Labuschagne]

So when will he receive his silverballers?

[Lilіth]

^There's no dual-wield so far, but I've unlocked a Silverballer by getting Level 10 Paris mastery. You level it by completing challenges, and finishing the mission. If you fail and restart with challenges done, the completion will be also reset.

[Daz]

Don't burn me on the stake for this, but I'm honestly not all that mad at the episodic business plan they have lined up for the game. If it means we still get awesome maps and they actually come out sooner, you won't see me complaining. They're only 15 bucks in the US of A so buying an episode is a bit better then perhaps buying the full retail price if you buy them the day they drop The levels are also so detailed and big that giving players time to master a certain map is pretty f*cking cool to do when you finally get around to it. Trust me guys, outside of the dumb always online crap and bad performance on PC, there's definitely a great game in there.

I have watched a lot of gameplay and it does seem better than absolution. But generally because it is just exactly the same, just with open world levels (or should I say, level...). It seemed very hand holdy and its not just as simple as "turn the hints off" because once you know the importance of a disguise or a point of interest it is then ruined. The beauty of the originals was that all the different ways to complete a hit were almost their own secrets and collectibles in a way. Very important to discover yourself and not just be told what to do. It ruins any feeling of accomplishment if you are just shown what to do.

 

I, like many others prefer to actually wait for a game to be complete before we play it, there is no longer any games I just HAVE to play that I just can't wait. I am no longer a child, I have other sh*t I can just do. I would just prefer to not hear anything and let them get on with making it, start plugging the thing in the month of release and be done with it. The problem I have with this is if I play one map to death now, I get sick of the game and will have a hard time trying to get back into it when the next map releases. I would much rather play a full game and get my enjoyment out of it then move on, and come back to it to replay it all at my own will. The bad point of only having one map is that you are going to play it to the point where it is really no longer replayable because you have played the f*ck out of it. Usually you play each mission equally and can have fun going back and completing more, it keeps it feeling fresh and different, much like how you can easily get sick to death of base maps in a game until you get DLC, sh*t gets f*cking stale, fast, when you are only stuck with a few maps, let alone just one. I think this setup really burns up any future replayability with a game. By the time the next map comes out you are going to be 100% f*cking done with it. And I don't mean completion wise, I mean you will f*cking be sick to death of it.

 

Besides, even if it is good, it's still not complete. We don't know how many maps there actually will be. I doubt there will even be anywhere close to 10. This bullsh*t always online feature is f*cking moronic. I have no idea what is so important that you can't have offline and online saves be the same. And the pricing. It will end up being more money buying it all separate. So that whole idea is a f*cking scam, so no point only playing for the first map just to be sure.

 

So let me get this straight, it's like £11.49 for the first map, and it's £44.99 for "the full game" so what, is there only going to be another 3 f*cking maps? I just don't understand how this could ever even be considered a game. It is a f*cking early access alpha at this point. By a f*cking AAA publisher. How the f*ck can this happen? How would you even review this game, when it is not even complete?

 

It is just bullsh*t to let the company keep market value by saying a game is out when it is not. It is literally more cost effective for them to release a broken piece of sh*t game that isn't finished than it is to just shut up about it and drop a working game on us out of nowhere like Bethesda does.

 

You really can't be mad at anyone other than the people that agree to support this bullsh*t sales model by buying this game as it is. It is best to vote with your wallet and that is the only way to make a change. Where the hardcore fans of the series get f*cking f*cked over and shat on for being fans, and those that couldn't give a f*ck will probably pick the whole complete game up in a year on a steam sale for £10. How is that fair? So why the f*ck should I continue to care when I can just ignore it and do the same and end up getting it free with GWG at some point. It just ain't f*cking worth worrying about.

 

If I want a nice steak dinner I am not going to settle for steak flavoured bubble gum. I am going to tell them to f*ck off and just get one some other time. I don't need it that badly.

[PhoGarrett]

 

Don't burn me on the stake for this, but I'm honestly not all that mad at the episodic business plan they have lined up for the game. If it means we still get awesome maps and they actually come out sooner, you won't see me complaining. They're only 15 bucks in the US of A so buying an episode is a bit better then perhaps buying the full retail price if you buy them the day they drop The levels are also so detailed and big that giving players time to master a certain map is pretty f*cking cool to do when you finally get around to it. Trust me guys, outside of the dumb always online crap and bad performance on PC, there's definitely a great game in there.

I have watched a lot of gameplay and it does seem better than absolution. But generally because it is just exactly the same, just with open world levels (or should I say, level...). It seemed very hand holdy and its not just as simple as "turn the hints off" because once you know the importance of a disguise or a point of interest it is then ruined. The beauty of the originals was that all the different ways to complete a hit were almost their own secrets and collectibles in a way. Very important to discover yourself and not just be told what to do. It ruins any feeling of accomplishment if you are just shown what to do.

 

I, like many others prefer to actually wait for a game to be complete before we play it, there is no longer any games I just HAVE to play that I just can't wait. I am no longer a child, I have other sh*t I can just do. I would just prefer to not hear anything and let them get on with making it, start plugging the thing in the month of release and be done with it. The problem I have with this is if I play one map to death now, I get sick of the game and will have a hard time trying to get back into it when the next map releases. I would much rather play a full game and get my enjoyment out of it then move on, and come back to it to replay it all at my own will. The bad point of only having one map is that you are going to play it to the point where it is really no longer replayable because you have played the f*ck out of it. Usually you play each mission equally and can have fun going back and completing more, it keeps it feeling fresh and different, much like how you can easily get sick to death of base maps in a game until you get DLC, sh*t gets f*cking stale, fast, when you are only stuck with a few maps, let alone just one. I think this setup really burns up any future replayability with a game. By the time the next map comes out you are going to be 100% f*cking done with it. And I don't mean completion wise, I mean you will f*cking be sick to death of it.

 

Besides, even if it is good, it's still not complete. We don't know how many maps there actually will be. I doubt there will even be anywhere close to 10. This bullsh*t always online feature is f*cking moronic. I have no idea what is so important that you can't have offline and online saves be the same. And the pricing. It will end up being more money buying it all separate. So that whole idea is a f*cking scam, so no point only playing for the first map just to be sure.

 

So let me get this straight, it's like £11.49 for the first map, and it's £44.99 for "the full game" so what, is there only going to be another 3 f*cking maps? I just don't understand how this could ever even be considered a game. It is a f*cking early access alpha at this point. By a f*cking AAA publisher. How the f*ck can this happen? How would you even review this game, when it is not even complete?

 

It is just bullsh*t to let the company keep market value by saying a game is out when it is not. It is literally more cost effective for them to release a broken piece of sh*t game that isn't finished than it is to just shut up about it and drop a working game on us out of nowhere like Bethesda does.

 

You really can't be mad at anyone other than the people that agree to support this bullsh*t sales model by buying this game as it is. It is best to vote with your wallet and that is the only way to make a change. Where the hardcore fans of the series get f*cking f*cked over and shat on for being fans, and those that couldn't give a f*ck will probably pick the whole complete game up in a year on a steam sale for £10. How is that fair? So why the f*ck should I continue to care when I can just ignore it and do the same and end up getting it free with GWG at some point. It just ain't f*cking worth worrying about.

 

If I want a nice steak dinner I am not going to settle for steak flavoured bubble gum. I am going to tell them to f*ck off and just get one some other time. I don't need it that badly.

This is the most uninformed rant I've seen a while. Do your research before you rant.

 

1. There are settings in the game where you can toggle how far you let the game hold your hand.

 

2. Wait for the game to come in a physical copy next year. It's not great but you're acting like people are buying an incomplete game. They aren't. It's releasing episodically. Gameplay elements will change over time based on critism but the core elements are right in front of you. You're acting as if I said I absolutely loved the episodic format. I don't, I said that I don't mind it. There are problems with it but it's enough for me not to whine too much about it. After all if you don't want to buy it episodically you can always wait next year and see if the whole package is worth your money.

 

3. You definitely did no attempt at research before this. There will be 6 maps in a varied amount of locations. In these maps there will be other missions as well. Keep in mind these maps are HUGE: https://hydra.cdn.sqexeu.com/assets/HITMAN_ENTITIES/12710749089498.537.7a8f7d9e76e28bcd2e722d2b00db193e.png

They're small sandboxes with a whole lot more to do than other Hitman games. I see no problem here.

 

4. The prologue and Paris map is plenty of time to see just where the game is headed and form an opinion on it. The whole game isn't out yet but I don't see anything wrong with getting pieces of it before it reaches stores. Call it early access all you want but the game is fun and getting some of it early doesn't seem all that bad.

 

I agree with some of what you said man but could you sound any less pompous? You're talking about some of the things you've said as if you speak for everyone and THIS is how THIS is. We're all just a bunch of nerds talking about videogames dude.

Edited March 29, 2016 by Dillono

[ryanhunter_rfc]

Dillono you must not have seen Daz before. He rants, bitches and complains in every post. I'm not sure if he likes any game that has came out post 2010.

[Fireman]

I couldn't stay away so I just bought the intro Pack, yes I'm very ashamed of myself, throwing money at a terrible marketing plan like this.

 

But I just couldn't keep away.

 

I DO NEED IT THAT BADLY.

 

 

EDIT: Asked for a refund already, game can't even launch.

Edited March 29, 2016 by Fireman

[Niobium]

you don't need it that badly

 

there are other great games that don't pull this online-only crap on you

[MyName'sJeff]

This company is a pile of crap, and anyone that supports what their doing are idiots at best. Because of stupid people, these kind of practices are increasing in the gaming industry.

[Ai®a©ob®a]

All of you just saved me from wasting my money....Thanks

[thatstupidbug]

always online and episodic content aside, what are the problem of this new hitman? I'll buy it next year, but i'd like to know if there are flaws in the core gameplay

[Fireman]

It doesn't launch, is my biggest problem at the moment.

 

Who knows, there's probably a world of problems behind the launcher, but I won't get that far.

[Niobium]

always online and episodic content aside, what are the problem of this new hitman? I'll buy it next year, but i'd like to know if there are flaws in the core gameplay

 

i heard it's a really good game, and a worthy successor to blood money

[Rockstar Vienna]

[Lilіth]

i heard it's a really good game, and a worthy successor to blood money

 

It is, despite all the controversy surrounding the game it's really good gameplay-wise. I put in 50 hours into the Prologue missions and Showstopper and got all the Challenges done and the Escalations that came out. It's just the decision on releasing episodically and the always-online DRM staying for good that sparks negativity.

 

 

On another note; I got my hands on the Closed Alpha build that was sent out back in December '15, out of sheer curiosity to see the differences. But aside from details, IO had Paris pretty much down very early on, 90% of NPC placement and NPC routines are the same as in retail, The only difference is that you'll always have that one bodyguard see you garotte Margolis through 5 walls and come hunt you. Well, the amount of finalization from a '15 build brings up a bunch of questions for me, but eh.

[Daz]

This is the most uninformed rant I've seen a while. Do your research before you rant.

 

1. There are settings in the game where you can toggle how far you let the game hold your hand.

 

2. Wait for the game to come in a physical copy next year. It's not great but you're acting like people are buying an incomplete game. They aren't. It's releasing episodically. Gameplay elements will change over time based on critism but the core elements are right in front of you. You're acting as if I said I absolutely loved the episodic format. I don't, I said that I don't mind it. There are problems with it but it's enough for me not to whine too much about it. After all if you don't want to buy it episodically you can always wait next year and see if the whole package is worth your money.

 

3. You definitely did no attempt at research before this. There will be 6 maps in a varied amount of locations. In these maps there will be other missions as well. Keep in mind these maps are HUGE: https://hydra.cdn.sqexeu.com/assets/HITMAN_ENTITIES/12710749089498.537.7a8f7d9e76e28bcd2e722d2b00db193e.png

They're small sandboxes with a whole lot more to do than other Hitman games. I see no problem here.

 

4. The prologue and Paris map is plenty of time to see just where the game is headed and form an opinion on it. The whole game isn't out yet but I don't see anything wrong with getting pieces of it before it reaches stores. Call it early access all you want but the game is fun and getting some of it early doesn't seem all that bad.

 

I agree with some of what you said man but could you sound any less pompous? You're talking about some of the things you've said as if you speak for everyone and THIS is how THIS is. We're all just a bunch of nerds talking about videogames dude.

 

1: Removing hand holding settings is redundant. The game is still designed in such a way that you will tend to just leave them on as it is. And that wasn't even my point if you read my post. The point is that once you have discovered a way to complete a hit, its done with. You used to have to actually find every piece and stitch them all together to make a hit work. Having watched a video I already know I can disguise myself as a celebrity, then get makeup done, then gain access to the target. The point is that should be for you to discover, and not for the game to tell you. Once you have seen it, even if there are no tips you still know what to do. It's almost a spoiler in a sense because that was really the core essence of the originals.

 

2: It is an incomplete game. It is a AAA early access title. Early access works for a game that has endless replayability like a multiplayer survival game. But this is a classic level based story driven experience. There is only so much content there. It is not replayable as much as you think, and there is only so much you can do on one level before it will get stale.

 

3: Oh, wow, 6 maps? 2 more than what I estimated? I may as well quit my f*cking job then, hold on a sec while I throw all my games out the f*cking window, looks like this will last us till the end of time... f*cking gr8 1 m8.

 

4: That used to be what f*cking demos were for. You keep saying "wait till it's out" that's the point, it ain't out now, there isn't a game here, you are play testing this sh*t. You tell us not to judge it but how can you judge it if they can just f*ck you over on the rest of the content, you can bet your ass one map will be tiny as f*ck or a bullsh*t recycle. Besides, I don't want to buy into some bullsh*t system just to see if I will like it. It isn't even the point. It doesn't have anything to do with how good the game even is. It is the same problem Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes had. It doesn't matter if the gameplay is f*cking perfect. If there just ain't enough in the purchase, what the f*ck is the point? Why would you want to spend 30 hours of gameplay on one map, knowing that there is nothing else after it, nothing different for a palette cleanser. It is almost insane to even consider buying it now.

 

The problem is that just like Ground Zeroes, it is a f*cking waste of space. It is all down to trying to prop up their shares by releasing something that can sell for that quarter. Don't for a second think this was a planned decision on their part. That this is in some way good for the product or the brand or for the consumer. It is dealing with their f*cked up situation the best they can to recoup profit. Instead of just waiting to release a finished product and take a bit of a hit for having a delay, they have to do this bollocks. I don't want my games dissected up and spoon fed to me monthly. It isn't even really like early access, as at least with that you get a working game and there are frequent patches that add content to the existing map. This is more like buying the first 20 pages of a book and re-reading them over and over.

 

Even if I try to ignore it until it is a full game, it will still be plastered all over youtube and nearly impossible to miss. By the time it will be complete there will be completely no f*cking draw whatsoever, it will most likely just pass me by and I won't be arsed, it will already be out of date and something better will have shown up. By the time you get to the last map, or most likely way before that, you will be sick to death of the game for how dragged out it ended up being.

[PhoGarrett]

 

This is the most uninformed rant I've seen a while. Do your research before you rant.

 

1. There are settings in the game where you can toggle how far you let the game hold your hand.

 

2. Wait for the game to come in a physical copy next year. It's not great but you're acting like people are buying an incomplete game. They aren't. It's releasing episodically. Gameplay elements will change over time based on critism but the core elements are right in front of you. You're acting as if I said I absolutely loved the episodic format. I don't, I said that I don't mind it. There are problems with it but it's enough for me not to whine too much about it. After all if you don't want to buy it episodically you can always wait next year and see if the whole package is worth your money.

 

3. You definitely did no attempt at research before this. There will be 6 maps in a varied amount of locations. In these maps there will be other missions as well. Keep in mind these maps are HUGE: https://hydra.cdn.sqexeu.com/assets/HITMAN_ENTITIES/12710749089498.537.7a8f7d9e76e28bcd2e722d2b00db193e.png

They're small sandboxes with a whole lot more to do than other Hitman games. I see no problem here.

 

4. The prologue and Paris map is plenty of time to see just where the game is headed and form an opinion on it. The whole game isn't out yet but I don't see anything wrong with getting pieces of it before it reaches stores. Call it early access all you want but the game is fun and getting some of it early doesn't seem all that bad.

 

I agree with some of what you said man but could you sound any less pompous? You're talking about some of the things you've said as if you speak for everyone and THIS is how THIS is. We're all just a bunch of nerds talking about videogames dude.

1: Removing hand holding settings is redundant. The game is still designed in such a way that you will tend to just leave them on as it is. And that wasn't even my point if you read my post. The point is that once you have discovered a way to complete a hit, its done with. You used to have to actually find every piece and stitch them all together to make a hit work. Having watched a video I already know I can disguise myself as a celebrity, then get makeup done, then gain access to the target. The point is that should be for you to discover, and not for the game to tell you. Once you have seen it, even if there are no tips you still know what to do. It's almost a spoiler in a sense because that was really the core essence of the originals.

 

2: It is an incomplete game. It is a AAA early access title. Early access works for a game that has endless replayability like a multiplayer survival game. But this is a classic level based story driven experience. There is only so much content there. It is not replayable as much as you think, and there is only so much you can do on one level before it will get stale.

 

3: Oh, wow, 6 maps? 2 more than what I estimated? I may as well quit my f*cking job then, hold on a sec while I throw all my games out the f*cking window, looks like this will last us till the end of time... f*cking gr8 1 m8.

 

4: That used to be what f*cking demos were for. You keep saying "wait till it's out" that's the point, it ain't out now, there isn't a game here, you are play testing this sh*t. You tell us not to judge it but how can you judge it if they can just f*ck you over on the rest of the content, you can bet your ass one map will be tiny as f*ck or a bullsh*t recycle. Besides, I don't want to buy into some bullsh*t system just to see if I will like it. It isn't even the point. It doesn't have anything to do with how good the game even is. It is the same problem Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes had. It doesn't matter if the gameplay is f*cking perfect. If there just ain't enough in the purchase, what the f*ck is the point? Why would you want to spend 30 hours of gameplay on one map, knowing that there is nothing else after it, nothing different for a palette cleanser. It is almost insane to even consider buying it now.

 

The problem is that just like Ground Zeroes, it is a f*cking waste of space. It is all down to trying to prop up their shares by releasing something that can sell for that quarter. Don't for a second think this was a planned decision on their part. That this is in some way good for the product or the brand or for the consumer. It is dealing with their f*cked up situation the best they can to recoup profit. Instead of just waiting to release a finished product and take a bit of a hit for having a delay, they have to do this bollocks. I don't want my games dissected up and spoon fed to me monthly. It isn't even really like early access, as at least with that you get a working game and there are frequent patches that add content to the existing map. This is more like buying the first 20 pages of a book and re-reading them over and over.

 

Even if I try to ignore it until it is a full game, it will still be plastered all over youtube and nearly impossible to miss. By the time it will be complete there will be completely no f*cking draw whatsoever, it will most likely just pass me by and I won't be arsed, it will already be out of date and something better will have shown up. By the time you get to the last map, or most likely way before that, you will be sick to death of the game for how dragged out it ended up being.

After reading your entire post I think this game just isn't your cup of tea. I see you have good points but they're lost in the swear words and unfiltered rage. Try your best to ignore it or go out of your way to buy a copy next year only to throw it on the ground, whatever floats your boat. The game has issues but clearly your opinion on the game won't change no matter how hard I try.