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# The \$500,000 to bring to the docks

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Ok in maths when the last number is 5 or above you are always taught round up. You never round down. That's just a fact. And you answered your own question about why mention the gaurd rail. Because 0.5 miles is rounded up you go past the turn which is why its mentioned. It's Simple logic. And theoretically raton canyon isn't part of the route. its just used as a reference point. You go over raton canyon when you use the bridge. Look at your map. Where is Raton Canyon marked?

Anyway it's all irrelevant until we figure out what we are supposed to trigger if at all there is anything.

I'm guessing you have tried the other dock to no result. Because I have as well. I did have the very same thought at one point. Now I'm starting to think that it's in code or something. Or it's just nothing at all!

Just an idea. Start 0.5 miles away from Raton Canyon. (I think we can all agree that, that's anywhere on the road ) Drive through north Chumash, onto the great ocean highway going right when the gaurd rail ends (just before the fort zancudo tunnel). Follow the dirt Road down to the docks. (IIRC there's a docks just outside the fort in Lago Zancudo. Exactly where the dirt Road would lead. I can't test this yet but I'm going to as soon as I get home.

Edit: guess what........................ nothing happened!

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Ok in maths when the last number is 5 or above you are always taught round up. You never round down. That's just a fact.

Now you're just trying to get out of this hole your in. Yes in math any number above 4 you're supposed to round up. but if R* rounded down to .45 then they would avoid this confusion that you're creating for yourself

And you answered your own question about why mention the gaurd rail. Because 0.5 miles is rounded up you go past the turn which is why its mentioned. It's Simple logic.

No thats Idiotic logic. If they were truly referencing that turn they could of just said turn left at the dirt road or even left after bridge since the only other turn in the area is to turn right. Leaving left at the end of the rail is just pointless.

You're just being ignorant of the redundant instruction that you're trying to create

And theoretically raton canyon isn't part of the route. its just used as a reference point. You go over raton canyon when you use the bridge. Look at your map. Where is Raton Canyon marked?

Yes it is a reference point and since the directions state "past Raton Canyon" not "once entering Raton Canyon" or "at the beginning of Ratton Canyon" or "Past North Chumash" or "After North Chumash" only an ignorant person, like yourself, would start counting steps at the beginning of Raton Canyon instead of the end of it. Going from the end of Raton Canyon your turn is only .25 miles away so even more unlikely that it's there

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Ok as I'm so ignorant please tell me what you have found with your infinite knowledge o wise one!

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Ok as I'm so ignorant please tell me what you have found with your infinite knowledge o wise one!

Not saying I'm wiser, just saying you're blind. I don't know much more then you do about these directions.

Only things of some relevance is that there is an X mark at the gas station/truck stop in Lago Zancudo over a different shading of pavement that looks like its sticking up a little. which could mean nothing at all (maybe you have to make a booty call at that spot?)

Starting from that station using trevor, and my online character, with exactly 500k cash gives no results.

Using Trevor (forget if I did this with exactly 500k or not, hell now im not to certain if I used him or Frank) with a tuned up car and starting from 1 start ending with 5 leads nowhere.

Though I have a random speculation, that im sure is as unlikely as humanly possible, that you can do this run if you chose too kill trevor or micheal and wanted to get him back to do the main easter egg

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http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/myphotos/photo/ihoET3WCukSXnauhD4NaJg

That's where the gaurd rail you're taking about ends. There isn't a left turn. And saying the wall counts as a gaurd rail is just ignorant.

Also look at the location. It's paleto forest. Why no mention in the instructions? It mentions every other place. If you can't see that then you're just ignorant.

Oh and the reason it says past is because its the last reference point. Think about it. When giving directions you would say turn left here, then right. Then it's 0.5 miles past the bank. For example. Now imagine that this bank building is a big building. You wouldn't say 0.5 past the end of the bank. U would just say past the bank. Like Past Raton Canyon. As you never really enter Raton Canyon so beginning or end isnt really relevant. If you can't see that then you're just being ignorant.

All the ignorants being used makes me feel like South Park Michael Jackson is here.

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http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/myphotos/photo/ihoET3WCukSXnauhD4NaJg

That's where the gaurd rail you're taking about ends. There isn't a left turn. And saying the wall counts as a gaurd rail is just ignorant.

Still more plausible then your theory. given all of the holes in yours and only this one? in mine

Also look at the location. It's paleto forest. Why no mention in the instructions? It mentions every other place. If you can't see that then you're just ignorant.

Same reason why it doesn't mention Hookies, the place where the bikers like coming out of, or even Chiliad Mountain State Wilderness (you know the are that your sonar dock is in) or the bridge in Raton Canyon it is irrelevant due to the rest of the info in the instructions

Oh and the reason it says past is because its the last reference point. Think about it. When giving directions you would say turn left here, then right. Then it's 0.5 miles past the bank. For example. Now imagine that this bank building is a big building. You wouldn't say 0.5 past the end of the bank. U would just say past the bank. Like Past Raton Canyon. As you never really enter Raton Canyon so beginning or end isnt really relevant. If you can't see that then you're just being ignorant.

ok, your being ignorant again using a building which might as well be a street you pass since it is one of the smallest things you could referance that isn't completely missable. it would be more like saying go .5 miles past the block with all of the bars on it or ten miles past LA. you would start your count at the end of the block/city not the beginning of it

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Ok please think about what you're saying. It doesnt mention hookies and the bridge as it only says places and roads. North chumash, great ocean highway etc. The bridge is a part of the great ocean highway. It doesn't mention chiliad state wilderness you're right. Because your destination is in it. It mentions every place you have to go through but no mention of this or paleto forest? You're pointing out more Holes in your own theory than I am. Just keep posting please.

And also technically if you were to take the first left after the guard rail in paleto bay (let's say the wall counts as a guard rail) it's actually a small dirt road which leads down to the beach. Check your map. The road goes through the words paleto forest.

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Ok please think about what your saying. It doesnt mention hookies and the bridge as it only says places and roads. North chumash, great ocean highway etc. It doesn't mention chiliad state wilderness you're right. Because your destination is in it. It mentions every place you have to go through but no mention of this or paleto forest? You're pointing out more Holes in your own theory than I am. Just keep posting please.

It mentions those places so that you stay on that road until they can actualy start giving you visual direction. With your logic why couldn't they just end it with left at the end of the rail or first left in Chiliad state Wilderness?

And also technically if you were to take the first left after the guard rail in paleto bay (let's say the wall counts as a guard real) it's actually a small dirt road which leads down to the beach. Check your map. The road goes through the words paleto forest.

I know.

If it was truly near the sonar docks we have had what? around 6 months? of the majority of people thinking it's in this area with no hints of anything else what so ever? I say we should start looking else where and the area near the pier is the next highly plausible area

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But there's nothing there either. As you say it's been 6 months. Your theory was obviously the next idea for alot of people when nothing happened at the sonar dock. It was for me as well. But still nothing. I'm beginning to think that its just nothing at all.

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But there's nothing there either. As you say it's been 6 months. Your theory was obviously the next idea for alot of people when nothing happened at the sonar dock. It was for me as well. But still nothing. I'm beginning to think that its just nothing at all.

Just cuse it's the next logical place doesn't mean that everyone has realized this (due to giving up or thinking they havn't tried everything yet) and I don't think R* would troll us like that

But to try and bring this topic back on to track. At the abandoned pier (that's what I call the pier in my area due damages and improper repair) has anyone noticed people on jet skis? I've been there multiple times with franklin Micheal and especially Trevor yet the only time I recall people on jet skis is when I was using Franklin once

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theres only 1 dock that it could be, so i assume the message is about the sonar collection thingy, another LAME tip on the blueprint map

if you go a little further past raton canyon and follow the dirt road that goes

behind paletto bay you end up at a dock to. (the one with the skydive chopper)

I'm not saying this is the place but could be just as the sonar docks.

the sonar dock isn't 0,5 miles from raton canyon, its shorter.

the arrow could also mean 'follow a arrow'.

it could of just said 'go left'.

the X could mean when on a smugglers mission? ( if this mister X is the owner of McKenzie airfield)

the 5 X's could mean wanted level?

I also assume its the sonardocks and there will be some cutscene at a specific time and all and giving you something like a weapon or a army uniform.

but shouldn't this be found by now?

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At the abandoned pier (that's what I call the pier in my area due damages and improper repair) has anyone noticed people on jet skis? I've been there multiple times with franklin Micheal and especially Trevor yet the only time I recall people on jet skis is when I was using Franklin once

I would like a second observer to witness the Jet skis so I know whether I'm on to something or just so happened to miss this random AI encounter with the other 2 characters

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This is bs. Just like the "big secret" in GTA SA

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This is bs. Just like the "big secret" in GTA SA

The "Big Secret"? I have benn a long time mythhunter in SA but never heard of that.

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This is bs. Just like the "big secret" in GTA SA

So your saying a company like R* that seems to take pride for not only the number but also the accuracy of it's Easter Eggs, would give specific instructions to their fan base to only go "Ha Ha we made you waste your time"? you sir are the reason we have yet to find anything

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Guys remember this is not the only thing to do with this game that screams unfinnished/unsolved. We have the mural, hippy camp, altruist camp and the blueprint/uv map. Are they all linked as part of 1 big interconnected mystery? I mean we are stumped as to what the stars represent on the hippy camp, i have placed those stars roughly to be around the vinewood/observatory areas. On the UV map at the observatory we see a clue - "shoot for the stars", come on that can't be just coincidence. There are many other things that link too. The eye we see at the altruist camp it too is on the UV map. The 5 X's in the message/clue for the docks and the 5 X's on the mural. Loads more stuff but i'll have to further investigate to make the connections.

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Guys remember this is not the only thing to do with this game that screams unfinnished/unsolved. We have the mural, hippy camp, altruist camp and the blueprint/uv map. Are they all linked as part of 1 big interconnected mystery? I mean we are stumped as to what the stars represent on the hippy camp, i have placed those stars roughly to be around the vinewood/observatory areas. On the UV map at the observatory we see a clue - "shoot for the stars", come on that can't be just coincidence. There are many other things that link too. The eye we see at the altruist camp it too is on the UV map. The 5 X's in the message/clue for the docks and the 5 X's on the mural. Loads more stuff but i'll have to further investigate to make the connections.

This connection has always been on the side in my brain, but I currently lack the time to properly investigate right now.

I do find it coincidental that the starting area you have a pretty good view of the military base, also IIRC if you look at the base with a sniper while at the gas station in Lagu Zancudo you get 1 star wanted level (will retest when I get out of class)

Just because it crossed my mind, has anyone tried to run the course using a save where Micheal or Trevor have been killed?

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You guys will see a stopsign fall over and swear it was an easter egg. And have 50 ppl try to recreate it. And google falling stopsigns for a cross reference.

Seriously don't you think R* wants to keep you interested in the game as long as possible. Even if it means making up a fake easter egg/conspiracy that doesn't exist. Just like the R* exec said in SA there was supposed to be a "big secret" which didn't exist and was never found. Not to mention an article they endorsed that mentioned "bigfoot" which did not exist in the game either. And the fake zombies, leatherface, Manhattan project, death canyon easter egg:all fake.

You guys are acting like 3rd graders being told a scary campfire story. And your falling for it. Hardcore. I've learned my lesson from SA: its all just trick up R*s sleeve... to have you convined there's something there when threres not, so you always think you have a good reason to keep playing

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@above. Hi kurrupt. Firtsly your negativity is not welcome here so if you have nothing positive to contribute then please don't post at all. Secondly you have no proof that what you say is true, it is merely your perception. What's to say that they didn't decide to create a legitimate "Big Secret" in gta V knowing full well how it would go down with the comunity(Proven with SA). I mean they did with Bigfoot in V, granted it was a guy dressed up but it was still implemented all the same.

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Has anyone tried getting 500k with Trevor when you first get control of him. And then go to the docks? (All docks, just for arguments sake) You can earn about 85k a week through mckenzie field.

I'm in the process of doing it now but want to know if I'm wasting my time.

Its a unique time in the game. You only have control of Trevor (until you do his story missions) and the sonar dock isn't available to buy yet. (Not sure when it becomes available, I think after the merryweather heist.)

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Have you found your secret? No? Keep trying no matter how long it takes you..

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@jp. I have been thinking the same for a while. Let us know what happens.

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@jp. I have been thinking the same for a while. Let us know what happens.

Will do. Might take me a few days though. f*cking life is getting in the way of my gaming!

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Reading this, (First Time) Has anyone jumped off the end of the pier into the water? Maybe there is something there under?

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Reading this, (First Time) Has anyone jumped off the end of the pier into the water? Maybe there is something there under?

It would have been found a long time ago...

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Reading this, (First Time) Has anyone jumped off the end of the pier into the water? Maybe there is something there under?

Many many times! also some times there's a boat there some times there isn't. I've got in the boat and tried going places. Nothing. I've punched the guys at the end. Shot them. Stabbed them. Just left them alone. I've tried pretty much everything except taking Trevor there after you first get him (working on that now) and if that doesn't work I'm going to try Franklin at the very start if the game. Then I give up! .

Unless I think of any other stupid ideas. For me, this is the only "mystery" left.

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Unless I think of any other stupid ideas. For me, this is the only "mystery" left.

Aww your not gonna throw me a bone with my kill Micheal or Trevor at the end idea? (even though this might be a last ditch effort)

Or has this been tried?

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Unless I think of any other stupid ideas. For me, this is the only "mystery" left.

Aww your not gonna throw me a bone with my kill Micheal or Trevor at the end idea? (even though this might be a last ditch effort)

I've got a save right before the last mission so I can always try it later on.

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actually have some further "proof" regarding which docks is correct.

If you follow the directions before you get to the bridge over raton canyon. There is a dirt Road off to the left. Opposite hookies bar. In front of this dirt Road is a huge sign saying "Raton Canyon". Where the gaurd rail ends is .61 miles past this sign.

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there you go again trying to bend the rules/facts to make your location work.

First you start from the beginning of Raton Canyon even though the directions say "Past Raton Canyon"

Now you not only wonna ignore that direction but also "through North Chumash" which is before Raton Canyon and before you actually go all the way through North Chumash.

Let me ask you this. If your in prison and are told to shank the last guy in line would you then shank the guy who told you to shank?

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