Another wild theory that Ending C is cannon:

[universetwisters]

Look at Trevor's trailer, at about 0:28

 

 

 

 

See what mission it is? It's "The Third Way" or whatever the name to option C's ending is Considering that, why wouldn't they put any other endings there? That's always a though. I've seen more promotional stuff for ending C than A & B.

 

[Polish_Trucker]

Defiently ending C is cannon. A number of quotes from the trailers are from ending C. Also, remember the singleplayer DLC announcement? It was cannon like typing. (I've forgot which article it was)

[cp1dell]

I would just give up at this point. The only people who seem to want A or B be canon are the ones who really hated Michael or Trevor.

 

No matter what evidence you bring up to claim C is canon, they'll shoot it down and refuse to provide anything that points towards A or B being canon - or even whip out the sh*tty arguement: "It's canon in my game since that's what I chose. So that's all that matters" - and completely misunderstand the thread.

 

There's no point discussing it. You're either going to get sh*tty posts spamming up the thread, trying to derail it saying the game and ending sucked anyways - or people saying A or B is canon but not provide any proof. Happens every time.

Edited January 12, 2014 by cp1dell

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Ending C IS canon otherwise they wouldn't have included Franklin in the major DLC that was announced, nor any of the protags at all.

[theNGclan]

With all due respect, I don't see how this will lead to anything. I mean, I could point out that when Trevor shoots "Good shot amigo" that he's not in the train like he is in the final game. That means I could theorize over that was originally going to be outside instead of him and the other two being in a train after the Paleto heist.

 

Thankfully, no ending is canon (yet). If any ending should be canon, Ending A should be it.

 

Not trying to sound rude or anything

Edited January 12, 2014 by theNGclan

[oCrapaCreeper]

There's also that artwork too.

[cp1dell]

Yeah but here comes the typical "Artwork doesn't mean sh*t" comment - for whatever f*cking reason.

 

I'm telling you, there's no point in discussing this for the umpteenth time. Everything gets shot down, and people who don't think C is canon refuse to provide any evidence or clues pointing towards A or B.

[universetwisters]

Thankfully, no ending is canon (yet). If any ending should be canon, Ending A should be it.

Trevor hater, eh?

 

I just looked into it some more, and it seems like ending C's gonna be cannon for this, unless it's a prequel in which they meet up before V starts for some odd reason.

 

 

For those ready to jump back into the story of Grand Theft Auto V, we have big plans for substantial additions in 2014 continuing Michael, Franklin and Trevor’s action, mayhem and unexpected adventures in Southern San Andreas.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/12/10/grand-theft-auto-v-to-receive-substantial-story-dlc-in-2014/

[theNGclan]

 

Thankfully, no ending is canon (yet). If any ending should be canon, Ending A should be it.

Trevor hater, eh?

 

I just looked into it some more, and it seems like ending C's gonna be cannon for this, unless it's a prequel in which they meet up before V starts for some odd reason.

 

 

For those ready to jump back into the story of Grand Theft Auto V, we have big plans for substantial additions in 2014 continuing Michael, Franklin and Trevor’s action, mayhem and unexpected adventures in Southern San Andreas.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/12/10/grand-theft-auto-v-to-receive-substantial-story-dlc-in-2014/

 

Could just be an additional set of missions, sorta like Saints Row 3/4, where the missions are there for a side story.

 

And no, I'm not a Trevor hater, but I do think killing him is smarter than the other two options.

[Shah Sam]

No ending is canon.

 

The choice of A-B-C is based of the choice you make. If Franklin was gonna kill Trevor, he would have chased him, Michael would have smashed him into a gas tanker, and either M or F would have shot the gas to kill him; Just like what happened in "Something Sensible".

 

If Franklin would have tried to save his friends (in an alternative universe), he would have gone to the warehouse with M, T and Lamar to kill MerryW and FIB, then they would go out to kill Haines, Wei and Stretch, AND then T would have found Devin and pushed him down the cliff... Exactly like in "The Third Way".

 

There is no canon-ending, ending A, B and C are different endings to the same story in alternative universes.

 

Ending A would have happened if Franklin chose to kill Trevor, ending B would have happened if Franklin chose to kill Michael and ending C would have happened if Franklin chose to help T and M.

Edited January 12, 2014 by PaletoChickenCapo

[cp1dell]

No ending is canon.

 

The choice of A-B-C is based of the choice you make. If Franklin was gonna kill Trevor, he would have chased him, Michael would have smashed him into a gas tanker, and either M or F would have shot the gas to kill him; Just like what happened in "Something Sensible".

 

If Franklin would have tried to save his friends (in an alternative universe), he would have gone to the warehouse with M, T and Lamar to kill MerryW and FIB, then they would go out to kill Haines, Wei and Stretch, AND then T would have found Devin and pushed him down the cliff... Exactly like in "The Third Way".

 

There is no canon-ending, ending A, B and C are different endings to the same story in alternative universes.

And how could I forget to mention these golden explanations? The people who completely miss what the thread is talking about.

 

There's always something canon. Take inFamous for example. You're allowed to make choices, but the developers obviously have a canon path in mind - and that's the "Good/Hero" one.

 

Games like Heavy Rain or something obviously have no canon since they revolve around the idea of "building your own storyline."

 

GTA is the former. With IV and V there are choices Niko or Franklin would have made, things that would fit their character. Hell, even Rockstar has said there will be a DLC "continuing Michael, Trevor, and Franklin's action, mayhem, and adventures."

 

"CONTINUING"

 

"THEIR ADVENTURES"

 

But no, feel free to "read between the lines" on what that means - since this is the forum that thinks everything Rockstar says is some deep cryptic message, and just can't read anything normally.

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

^

 

Lol exactly.

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

We will find out which one is cannon when the DLC gets released.....

[greenrock]

c is canon

[Shah Sam]

 

No ending is canon.

 

The choice of A-B-C is based of the choice you make. If Franklin was gonna kill Trevor, he would have chased him, Michael would have smashed him into a gas tanker, and either M or F would have shot the gas to kill him; Just like what happened in "Something Sensible".

 

If Franklin would have tried to save his friends (in an alternative universe), he would have gone to the warehouse with M, T and Lamar to kill MerryW and FIB, then they would go out to kill Haines, Wei and Stretch, AND then T would have found Devin and pushed him down the cliff... Exactly like in "The Third Way".

 

There is no canon-ending, ending A, B and C are different endings to the same story in alternative universes.

 

GTA is the former. With IV and V there are choices Niko or Franklin would have made, things that would fit their character. Hell, even Rockstar has said there will be a DLC "continuing Michael, Trevor, and Franklin's action, mayhem, and adventures."

 

Yes, but I believe that the DLC's with Michael and Trevor will be from the time before GTA V's story, maybe from North Yankton.

 

And yes, I know that some of the choices would fit Niko and Franklin, but GTA V lets you choose, so I don't think that R* will just forget about that and make any of those choices canon. I have not experienced that any of the choices from IV were proven to be canon.

[I<3GTAV]

Like it was said before, no ending is canon. There's not much more you can do with their stories instead of going back anyway; they all (or two of them) became millionaires and lived happily ever after. There's a lot more that can be filled on their backstories.

[ViceCityStalker]

f*ck you all....E is canon!Grabs a fresh light bulb..........

[The Odyssey]

I would just give up at this point. The only people who seem to want A or B be canon are the ones who really hated Michael or Trevor.

 

No matter what evidence you bring up to claim C is canon, they'll shoot it down and refuse to provide anything that points towards A or B being canon - or even whip out the sh*tty arguement: "It's canon in my game since that's what I chose. So that's all that matters" - and completely misunderstand the thread.

 

There's no point discussing it. You're either going to get sh*tty posts spamming up the thread, trying to derail it saying the game and ending sucked anyways - or people saying A or B is canon but not provide any proof. Happens every time.

 

False. We think that A or B (I personally think A) is canon because we have a valid argument. I've never shot anyone down in flames because they think C is canon, I just provide reason to why I think it isn't. if you're gonna just spout "There's no point discussing it" with no argument behind your reasoning's, then obviously you are the one with the sh*tty posts spamming the thread.

 

OT: Just because there's been scenes from The Third Way in promotional content, I don't think that means It's canon. The first trailer shows the subtle version of the jewelry heist, does that mean It's canon?

As for the artwork, I think it was just inspiration for a neat artwork.

[D T]

Hell, even Rockstar has said there will be a DLC "continuing Michael, Trevor, and Franklin's action, mayhem, and adventures."

 

"CONTINUING"

 

"THEIR ADVENTURES"

 

But no, feel free to "read between the lines" on what that means - since this is the forum that thinks everything Rockstar says is some deep cryptic message, and just can't read anything normally.

Rockstar would never go out and tell players their ending choice might be wrong. They'll just "continue their adventures" in a scifi parody DLC similar to Undead Nightmare, which takes place before both endings. Edited January 13, 2014 by Deadly Target

[SmoothGetaway]

@Odyssey

 

I'm willing to play along with your theory/version. Can you elaborate or just link me to other posts where you've explained this viewpoint? I'm genuinely interested in why you think that's the case.

[HOW'S ANNIE?]

The Deal ending was shown in one of the trailers to IV, yet everyone insists that the Revenge ending is the canon one. So why the hell should I chose to take this as evidence from forumers that C is canon.

 

To be honest I would love to argue that ending B is canon (as much as I love Michael) but I'm not since cp1dell will tell me that my reasoning is retarded. But in the end, unless Rockstar bring back Michael, Trevor, Devin, Cheng, Strech or Haines in a story after the events of V, I won't believe any ending is actually canon.

[cp1dell]

 

I would just give up at this point. The only people who seem to want A or B be canon are the ones who really hated Michael or Trevor.

 

No matter what evidence you bring up to claim C is canon, they'll shoot it down and refuse to provide anything that points towards A or B being canon - or even whip out the sh*tty arguement: "It's canon in my game since that's what I chose. So that's all that matters" - and completely misunderstand the thread.

 

There's no point discussing it. You're either going to get sh*tty posts spamming up the thread, trying to derail it saying the game and ending sucked anyways - or people saying A or B is canon but not provide any proof. Happens every time.

 

False. We think that A or B is canon because we have a valid argument.

 

And what would that be?

 

Sure the trailers showcase different heist approaches, but that just looks like normal gameplay. In other open-world games like Fallout New Vegas there are multiple ways of completing a task. V's heists are just a more simpler idea. A bit more close to home, the older titles, especially GTA SA, you were able to complete missions a couple of different ways and go about them differently.

 

Anyways, I'm playing through the story again and I have yet to see any reason why Franklin would even think of killing Michael or Trevor. Hell, even when Devin approaches him with the idea of killing Michael, Franklin tells him to f*ck off multiple times and kicks him out.

 

And what about the loose ends that A and B leave open? Sure C was pretty rushed, it should have been a couple of missions, but pick A and you still have the Devin wanting to kill Michael problem. Pick B, you still have the FIB wanting to kill Michael problem. In B you still have the Chinese pissed at Trevor. At least C deals with everything the story opened up.

 

And another thing, in Ending C Franklin was originally going to die, as to which Lamar would replace him on the SWITCH wheel. Obviously that got changed, but then we still have A and B which completely take away a character and that's it.

 

Regardless that C was rushed, A and B felt so out of place. This is subjective I know, but the characters do a complete 180 out of nowhere. In A you have Trevor meeting up with Franklin supposedly to kill M. Franklin pulls out his pistol and points it at Trevor - and he runs away. There were a lot of points in the story where Trevor had a gun pointed at him, but now all of a sudden he runs just for the sake of a short chase mission? Please.

 

And then there's the part where Trevor dies and Michael makes his "You always liked gasoline" comment. To which Franklin criticizes him for. Really Franklin? You just f*cking killed the guy.

 

In ending B suddenly Franklin and Michael hate each other, and have always hated each other apparently, the moment Michael realizes Franklin is there to kill him. A and B completely play out as What-If scenarios.

 

Not necessarily an argument, but if there was to be one ending shipped with the game I would have hoped it would be C. Every past GTA game ends with some crazy finale. I remember when TBoGT came out everyone here praised it for it's fun and exciting last mission, and hope V would do the same. If you picked A or B you got the complete opposite. C is the typical GTA ending where you kill the ones who wronged you in the story, and there's tons of action.

 

Even IV which had two endings still played out in the traditional GTA-Finale style.

 

Then we have the announcement from Rockstar saying there will be a Story DLC that will continue the adventures of Michael, Trevor and Franklin. I don't know why you all insist on trying to "read between the lines" on such a plain/clear statement. It's worded in a way that tells us, well, f*ck, it's right there - continue the story for M, T, and F.

 

The Deal ending was shown in one of the trailers to IV, yet everyone insists that the Revenge ending is the canon one. So why the hell should I chose to take this as evidence from forumers that C is canon.

 

To be honest I would love to argue that ending B is canon (as much as I love Michael) but I'm not since cp1dell will tell me that my reasoning is retarded. But in the end, unless Rockstar bring back Michael, Trevor, Devin, Cheng, Strech or Haines in a story after the events of V, I won't believe any ending is actually canon.

Please, do tell me where I ever said that anyone else's reasoning is retarded. I've yet to see an actual explanation as to why Franklin would choose to kill Michael or Trevor.

 

And since when does anyone insist the Revenge ending is canon for IV? People only said that because they thought you could see the plane from TBoGT exploding in the background - but that turned out to be the smoke stacks in Alderney.

Edited January 13, 2014 by cp1dell

[HOW'S ANNIE?]

To answer your question, you watch Franklin throughout the storyline and you will realise that he's a sociopath. He states that he enjoys killing people, he tends to lack any form of emotion, hell the only reason he saved his "bestfriend" is because the girl who he is obsessesed over wanted him to. I don't see any reason why he would in the long run have trouble killing Michael or Trevor.

 

You also bring up the fact that Trevor acted out of character in ending A. Look at many of the characters in the game and you will see instances of them acting out of character even when it's not optional. For example, Terry and Clay clearly did not turn to drugs the same way Johnny did (which in itself is an instance of people acting out of character), yet they ran from Trevor when he never even pointed a gun at them. Two grown men, both of whom assulted a maximum security prison, with one also being ex-military, ran from one man.

 

And then to the final point about loose ends. Look at TBOGT, the Ancelloti family are nothing but a HUGE loose end yet nobody dissmisses the canonicity of it's story in general simply because of a loose end.

[Fuzzknuckles]

Yeah but here comes the typical "Artwork doesn't mean sh*t" comment - for whatever f*cking reason.

 

I'm telling you, there's no point in discussing this for the umpteenth time. Everything gets shot down, and people who don't think C is canon refuse to provide any evidence or clues pointing towards A or B.

It might help if you let people discuss it, rather than telling them it's not worth discussing...

 

My thoughts? C is canon. Trevor is supposed to live, so he can get the Mrs Phillips mission. Michael is supposed to live, so he can do the Epsilon missions. Franklin just lives because Franklin.

 

Killing one or the other characters is a nice option, but those endings should not be considered canon as they remove characters. An ending where they all survive is the only option that allows for post-story DLC, without some stupid retconning.

 

But, and this is a big but... bigger than your mothers... It really doesn't matter, as it's a game. If it were a movie that was getting a sequel, or a book, it might be more important, but as a fully interactive piece of entertainment that gives the player the option of removing one character, which may be different to another players choice... there is NO canon ending.

[Alastair Smyth]

They'll just "continue their adventures" in a scifi parody DLC similar to Undead Nightmare, which takes place before both endings.

 

That was my initial thought upon reading the R* newswire, seems like a path they would take again. Now that they seemingly changed their minds about DLC, that is. I think most of us read how they said no TLAD/TBOGT type extensions for V.

[xenorama]

But, and this is a big but... bigger than your mothers... It really doesn't matter, as it's a game. If it were a movie that was getting a sequel, or a book, it might be more important, but as a fully interactive piece of entertainment that gives the player the option of removing one character, which may be different to another players choice... there is NO canon ending.

 

 

Yeah, canon in actual stories is one thing. Canon in video games is just silly. What's canon in GTA is driving, shooting, and running people over.

[Mr. Rocko]

c is canon

[The Odyssey]

@cp1dell
I provided a valid argument in my post, read it again.

I also made a huge thread about it a while back. It's somewhere back there, can't be screwed finding it right now tbh.

 

Edit: looks like someone bumped it, you can check it out if you want.

Edited January 13, 2014 by The Odyssey

[Loves2Spooge90]

So if single player DLC came out, to be set AFTER the events of GTAV, starring all 3 protag's, what would the A ending and B ending fools say then ?

[Dr. Ray De Angelo Harris]

I don´t think the SP DLC will be set after the story of GTA V. It will be set either before the events of GTA V or it will just add some missions to the existing storyline.