Do you believe in GOD?

[Secura]

 

Maybe you need to grow up because we wouldn't exist without a cause.

Really because I'd say that we already know what our cause is, here it's a little thing called evolution, you've probably never heard of it but there you go proof of where we come from as a species.

 

Though if you're referring to the Universe itself I've already said numerous times why the universe is either infinite or part of an infinite amount of multiverses that makeup existence. God can't exist before existence, therefore he is incapable of creating it. That's not something that's hard to understand, it's just pure and simple fact and if you can't grasp that I feel some pity for your weak and underdeveloped mind.

 

Lastly, and I think most importantly where exactly did I say that we had no cause? Are you seriously so deluded to think that the existence of a nonsensical God is the only possible thing that could've created humanity and to a much, much larger extent existence itself? I'm sorry that you think that way, this is something that's known as religious indoctrination and it's a very hard thing to break, don't you worry friend when I'm done with you, you'll be an atheist like all the other sane members of the human race.

 

So let's get on with it shall we?

 

 

And you also say that people who believe in God force other people to convert? Get real

 

Sure, sure. We'll "get real the moment you rejoin me in reality and not in this dream world where people haven't and aren't forced in one way or another to believe in a specific religion. So you'd like me to provide proof would ya'? No problem but first let's just talk about the number of people that go around and try to shove their religion down your throat.

 

There's a large, large list such as preachers out in the street yelling out to the passing masses about how they should believe in this, that or the other, how about the religious morons like Jehovah's Witnesses who'll come to your front door and blather on and on about their obviously imaginary God. Then there are the extremists who'll kill people who'd oppose their views or to a minor extent simply disown them or disregard their very existence, these a just but a few examples of the kinds of people that force their religions down others throats and there's simply no denying that they are real.

 

Links for verification:

 

 

Jehovah's Witness

 

 

Video of preacher on the streets

 

 

Extremists

 

Yes you may indeed say that these people represent the vocal minority of organised religions but it still doesn't change the fact that these people are both real and extremely dangerous. You have done yourself no favors by completely denying their existence in this debate and I'd expect you to have to do some explaining about why you choose to think that religion's a totally free organisation.

 

Religion has never, ever been free. Not in the true sense, religion was created (as was God) for one sole purpose, to give primitive humans the ability to continue to live their lives with some sort of explanation for why everything existed and why things happened. We are no longer in need of these old and severely outdated "explanations, but still people cling to them for the hope and safety that they claim to offer, when in fact religion is more of a symbol of oppression then freedom and safety.

 

People believe in God because they fear death, they fear non-existence so they make up a fairy tale to soothe them and put their minds at ease. The issue is how long can we as a species continue to thrive off of such a backwards and broken world view? Idiocy breeds idiocy and as such it's not surprising we have the amount of religious fanatics and extremists that run around spewing their horribly illogical viewpoints in people's faces.

 

Face it, whether you like it not a large majority these people exist because of the stupidity of organised religion.

 

 

It's because people study and study and research a lot, which they think is right for them

 

Ha, good joke!

 

Wait you're being serious? Fine I guess we have to go through this too now don't we. Right so first off there's a massive of people who are Christians, Muslims, Jews and the like have never read their religious books, the vast majority of religious people on this planet have never, ever read their own scripture and you know why? Because they're still religious.

 

The Bible, Quaran and Tanakh are all full of contradictory opinions and hypocritical points of view, try as you might you cannot read one of these books without coming across several dozen completely logical fallacies and that's a pure and utter fact. I'm actually going to bet money on the fact that you've never, ever even bothered to read the first page of any religious book.

 

Another interesting fact is that people of higher intelligence seem to be far more atheistic then religious. A good example is found in the video below showing you that a staggering 93% of the members of the Nation Academy of Sciences reject the concept of a God, you can't tell me that doesn't tell you that there's some sort of correlation between intelligence and atheism.

 

 

 

Though if that's not enough proof for you there was a study that professor Richard Lynn made that argues the fact that religious people are generally less intelligent then those who are atheistic. Not that I'm saying that a religious person can't be intelligent, it just makes no sense for them to be in anyway religious seeing the amount of falsehoods and logical errors made in organised religion.

 

Once again I think it's time for you to come to terms with the fact that religion isn't something that people do out of freedom of choice or that they read up on in advance, oh no it's something that's forced into people from early ages to better prepare their minds for the stupid indoctrination that seems so common nowadays.

 

Further proof of this would a be a small thing called Jesus Camp. A documentary about a "Bible Camp" and what goes on within it, some of the scenes are rather shocking and to be honest I'm surprised a large majority of the people seen in this film haven't ended up in either prison or mental wards. Regardless of all that hopefully I've provided you with enough empirical evidence to suggest that organised religions isn't really something that someone chooses of their own freewill.

 

 

As for the rest, it's nonsense because people who think jumping off a cliff or starting wars is a good thing are on the opposite end, they clearly don't know sh*t about religion which in fact is against the religion overall.

 

Far from it, this kind of thing happens all the time; to use a recent example the Boston Bombers motivations have been linked to religious causes. Rather ironically some news stations are reporting that one of the brothers was angered by the fact that people viewed Islam as a violent religion, I'm sorry but setting off a bomb in the middle of a marathon's hardly a smart way to get that point across.

 

The fact is my friend that religion isn't as nice of thing as you think it is, God multiple times across multiple religions states very clearly that he's a supporter of rape, slavery, murder, infanticide, genocide and sacrifices to say the least. You're clearly not too clued up about what most religions actually have backing them up but that's fine since as I said earlier you're most likely one of the many deluded people who've never read a single page of any religious book.

 

 

Now if you hate God so much, why don't you STFU and keep your unproven and useless opinions to yourself.

 

Firstly I don't hate God, I doubt his very existence and it's impossible for me to hate something that does not exist. That'd be like you hating the Easter Bunny, you just wouldn't do it because it's not real.

 

Secondly, I think I've provided more then enough proof to say that my opinions aren't standing on shaky ground, but it's not me that should be providing anything in this situation, it's you. If you want people to stop moaning about your religion then why not give us proof that your God is real, that everything your religion says is true, oh wait you can't.

 

Do you want to know why you can't? It's simple, because there isn't any. I can't give you any proof that I own a unicorn that's completely imperceptible, you wouldn't believe me and you'd be right to be wary of what I'm saying considering that I've no way to prove that I own the aforementioned unicorn. Replace unicorn with God and you might start getting a basic understanding of why God is a load of nonsense.

 

EDIT: Quotes appear to be broken for me, but you know what I'm getting at.

Edited May 29, 2013 by Lightning Strike

[UrbanTheEmcee]

 

Fair enough. Out of interest, though, what convinced you that there is a god, and it was the Christian God?

 

 

Great Question.

 

I was raised in Church, so I already had that background. When I was 14 years old I got Baptized in the name of Jesus. I also received the holy ghost that night. Speaking in a language I never learned. I could hear what I was saying, but I didn't recognize any of it. In that moment I could feel the weight of God on me. I felt like a feather caught in the middle of a supernova, but in a exhilarating way. I saw two Angels in the back of the church, and thought I was going crazy until another woman walked pass them and started speaking in tongues too. Everybody in the church starting praising God. Though me and this woman were the only ones who could see the two angels, it appeared everybody was affected by there presence. Everybody who looked at us that night said they could see a visible glow on us. I don't know how to explain that moment to a non believer without skepticism, but my eyes have been opened ever since then. I hear God's voice all the time, I've had dreams come to fruition, and things I can't even begin to explain. This was never really a debate for me. If you knew what I do, It wouldn't be for you either.

Edited April 25, 2013 by UrbanTheEmcee

[Typhus]

@El_Diablo: I don't see how you can debate the existence of God and be taken seriously with that username.

Sorry.

Explain, please.

[UrbanTheEmcee]

 

@El_Diablo: I don't see how you can debate the existence of God and be taken seriously with that username.

Sorry.

Explain, please.

The Devil debates God's existence.

Okay, now I know you're trolling.

[Typhus]

 

@El_Diablo: I don't see how you can debate the existence of God and be taken seriously with that username.

Sorry.

Explain, please.

The Devil debates God's existence.

Okay, now I know you're trolling.

I don't see the problem with his name.

Is this all another part of your 'the Devil is evil' idea? That if anyone mentions the Devil they automatically lose the right to discuss God?

Edited April 25, 2013 by Typhus

[UrbanTheEmcee]

@El_Diablo: I don't see how you can debate the existence of God and be taken seriously with that username.

Sorry.

Explain, please.

The Devil debates God's existence.

Okay, now I know you're trolling.

I don't see the problem with his name.

Is this all another part of your 'the devil is evil' idea? That if anyone mentions the Devil they automatically lose the right to discuss God?

I didn't say they lose the right to discuss God. jackass

But how can you believe in Satan, and not God?

[Typhus]

I didn't say they lose the right to discuss God. jackass

Did you or did you not retreat from our previous conversation after I claimed that the Devil was not evil?

[UrbanTheEmcee]

 

I didn't say they lose the right to discuss God. jackass

Did you or did you not retreat from our previous conversation after I claimed that the Devil was not evil?

Okay, explain to me how Satan is not evil seeing as you don't believe in God?

This is going places people.

Grab yaws popcorn!

We gone have us a debate, in which one side will spit cow sh*t, and the other side will be watching NFL Network.

proceed.

[Typhus]

Okay, explain to me how Satan is not evil seeing as you don't believe in God?

Characters in a book.

And like all fictional tales, the reader can gather opinions on the characters. We may see Sherlock Holmes as a hero or an opium addict, depending on the reader.

And one reader of the Bible may see God as a hero and another may view his innumerable atrocities, lies and hypocritical knee-jerk reactions as signs of rank villainy.

 

Tell me, why would I believe the word of God when I have just read chapter after chapter of him jerking around people for his own amusement? I used to think he was a poorly written character, but I think he's actually a damn good interpretation of a crack-addicted, psychotic closet case.

 

Compared to that, well, the Devil comes out looking peachy.

[The Pizza Delivery Guy]

 

Okay, explain to me how Satan is not evil seeing as you don't believe in God?

 

Because in that crazy best selling novel all these Christians believe in more than their own existence states multiple times how God destroyed cities and killed millions of innocence in an effort only to demonstrate his power.

 

How many did Satan kill? 5? 6 people?

 

And considering Hell, where those who sin on Earth go to in death, and Satan tortures them for infinity, wouldn't that make him the GOOD GUY here since he is punishing the wicked?

 

And GOD? He DEMANDS your love or else he will sent you to this eternal Hell. If you don't admit every minute of your life that you love God he'll send you. If you even consider the falseness of God he'll send you. God seems like the scumf*ck asshole here.

 

There was nothing about Hell in the Old Testament. Throwing in the idea of eternal damnation if you don't follow the ways of a random book gives me no reason to believe in Satan. And if there is no Satan or hell to scare me into believing in Mr. God, I'm not going to.

 

Thank you for reading. See? Even atheists can end their lectures kindly.

[El Dildo]

 

I don't see how you can debate the existence of God and be taken seriously with that username.

 

how can you believe in Satan, and not God?

 

news flash: it's just a cool sounding name.

it doesn't mean I worship Satan. it doesn't mean anything.

 

you're an idiot.

[Xylophobia]

 

No you should go because you're an ignorant, stubborn idiot. I don't mind theists at all, but people like you who believe Science is a lie and Christianity can't be wrong no matter what should just shut the f*ck up.

What does make me ignorant? The fact that I believe in God? Lol ok, I'm good with that.

Oh and I never f*cking argued that Science is a lie and Christianity can't be wrong. Are you actually sure you've quoted the right person? What you're posting here is a real trash and so far I haven't seen this topic progressing from what you've discussed. You should be the one that should shut the f*ck up, you pathetic little 14 y/o kid. You don't like my posts, just ignore them.

 

 

Because in that crazy best selling novel all these Christians believe in more than their own existence states multiple times how God destroyed cities and killed millions of innocence in an effort only to demonstrate his power.

 

How many did Satan kill? 5? 6 people?

Your arguments are worse than a f*cking cup of dead bugs. Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded. Please bring me a stable source of this evidence and probably I'll trust you.

 

As for Satan, he killed more people than you'd ever think.

Edited April 25, 2013 by Xylophobia

[Apex]

 

No you should go because you're an ignorant, stubborn idiot. I don't mind theists at all, but people like you who believe Science is a lie and Christianity can't be wrong no matter what should just shut the f*ck up.

What does make me ignorant? The fact that I believe in God? Lol ok, I'm good with that.

Oh and I never f*cking argued that Science is a lie and Christianity can't be wrong. Are you actually sure you've quoted the right person? What you're posting here is a real trash and so far I haven't seen this topic progressing from what you've discussed. You should be the one that should shut the f*ck up, you pathetic little 14 y/o kid. You don't like my posts, just ignore them.

 

 

Because in that crazy best selling novel all these Christians believe in more than their own existence states multiple times how God destroyed cities and killed millions of innocence in an effort only to demonstrate his power.

 

How many did Satan kill? 5? 6 people?

Your arguments are worse than a f*cking cup of dead bugs. Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded. Please bring me a stable source of this evidence and probably I'll trust you.

 

As for Satan, he killed more people than you'd ever think.

Again you didn't read my f*cking post. I didn't say believing in god makes you ignorant, learn to read.

Also

Science is responsible for twisting people's minds and making them believe in some retarded theories (Big Bang, Aliens DNA)

This shows exactly how ignorant and brainwashed you are.

[Clem Fandango]

Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded.

The Great Flood? Sodom? Gomorrah?

[Barguast]

@UrbanTheEmcee - I have checked El_Diablo's IP address and can confirm it does not originate from the fiery pits of hell. You're safe.

[sivispacem]

If atheists can't respect people who have faith, why don't you STFU and keep your morals too yourself.

.... I think it's trying to communicate.

So atheists forcing people to say that God doesn't exist is communicating? Clearly, you need to change your way of "Communication". You don't have proof he doesn't exist.

It's pretty clear that you've not really grasped what's going on in this discussion. How about I simplify it for you:

 

1) No-one is telling people not to have a personal faith in a creator or deity. That's their own decision.

2) People understandably aren't happy with people of religious belief trying to justify their personal, subjective spiritual faith as if it were fact when, as has been explained multiple times, it isn't.

3) The only people being particularly hostile, aggressive and rude are the theists and the anti-theists, not the atheists.

 

Saying that there is no evidence that god exists is not the same as saying god doesn't exist, as I've explained several times.

 

 

I do know this.

It is evident.

It is fact.

It is neither evident nor fact, nor do you know it.

 

Knowledge implies empiricism and there is no empiricism in religious belief.

Due to the above, there is no evidency in religion unless you believe that god in and of itself is self-evident, which is clearly not the case as that isn't a universal belief.

Fact requires empirical support. Saying something is a fact without providing empirical support is really just a bad attempt at pretending your opinion is objective, when it clearly isn't.

 

 

I by definition am a Christian

"There was only one true Christian, and he died on the cross.

 

 

It's a shame because you are smart, just foolish.

It's a real shame you think you have an intimate knowledge of my psyche. This has been the overriding problem with the Abrahamic religions over the millennia- the fact they feign empathy to try and blackmail the sceptic into belief. Yes, I am smart. But prizing rationality over faith is not foolish. I see no value in believing in a god who would cast me down for stretching the boundaries of my mind and developing an intuitive understanding of the world. Why would anyone want to praise such a being?

 

 

God isn't a witch doctor

For all intents and purposes, the concept is the same.

 

 

You think you've arrived there already. You are sadly mistaken.

And you know the truth how? Because you have a pretty rudimentary understanding of a historic text and blind faith in a higher power? I find it quite surprising that any deity would value blind faith over rationality. I think they would more likely have an affinity for rational scepticism and humanism than they would fanatical religious belief. Again, we come down to Pascal's wager. Any god who would punish the rational but morally sound for not believing in him is not worthy of worship.

 

 

I asked you the other day if you where an atheist, you gave no clear cut answer.

Actually, I gave a very clear answer. You just chose not to respond to it because you are incapable of effectively responding to any logical or philosophical argument that disputes the existence of god. Which is quite depressing, really, as it isn't a difficult concept to grasp. Hence why your responses are comprised solely of a mixture of feigned pity, attempts to portray yourself as somehow special and enlightened, and underhand insults. For shame.

 

 

Some men will leave this world having obtained no understanding of the world outside their heads.

And some, like you, will fade from existence still clinging to the vestiges of a belief system that goes against every fundamental tenet of the human condition.

 

 

These people are a cult

So...much...irony...

 

 

cult 

/kəlt

A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

And that's basically a summary of any organised religious belief.

 

Absence of belief =/= belief in absence. How difficult is that to understand?

 

Anyway, doesn't the bible teach you to praise logic, reason and intellect? So why the outward hostility towards anyone who disagrees with you? Rather unchristian is it not?

 

So basically, you were indoctrinated with a belief system. That goes some way to explain why you are so hostile towards anyone who disagrees with you.

 

 

The Devil debates God's existence.

No, the Devil denies god's existence. You don't even know your basic scripture!

 

Utterly laughable.

 

 

Your arguments are worse than a f*cking cup of dead bugs. Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded. Please bring me a stable source of this evidence and probably I'll trust you.

How about your own holy book? Specifically, the Book of Job. God permits Hasatan to murder Job's entire family and most of his friends, and then brutally torture him, in a petty wager to demonstrate that there is no-one more devout.

[Master of San Andreas]

I both believe and do not believe in god.

 

I believe that god does exist and that he created man but I believe that the world was created due to the Big bang theory,

 

Yes I know it does sound weird.

[Xylophobia]

Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded.

The Great Flood? Sodom? Gomorrah?

And you're calling them innocent? Those people were the definition of lust.

[Clem Fandango]

Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded.

The Great Flood? Sodom? Gomorrah?

And you're calling them innocent? Those people were the definition of lust.

Yes, I'm calling them innocent. The fact that you think simply being promiscuous and bisexual makes you deserving of death is one thing, but what about the babies, the children the elderly, the few chaste members of society?

 

Such a barbaric and archaic belief structure you have.

[Xylophobia]

Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded.

The Great Flood? Sodom? Gomorrah?

And you're calling them innocent? Those people were the definition of lust.

Yes, I'm calling them innocent. The fact that you think simply being promiscuous and bisexual makes you deserving of death is one thing, but what about the babies, the children the elderly, the few chaste members of society?

 

Such a barbaric and archaic belief structure you have.

The sin is inherited hereditary. So that's probably why everyone was killed. Living in that climate, the children, when they were reaching mature age, would do the same as his ancestors.

[Creed Bratton]

You are a complete and utter imbecile if you truly believe that.

[Xylophobia]

You are a complete and utter imbecile if you truly believe that.

I'm allowed to believe what the f*ck I want, really. I don't care if that makes me imbecile in your point of view because I don't give a f*ck about you.

[tuff_luv_capo]

I feel the trend of acting too tough and smart to believe in God has diluted the pool of true atheists to the point that the whole lot of them annoys me. I'm a believer who keeps it to himself even amongst the closest of company, so jokes from overly confident atheists actually offend me, not because they disturb my beliefs, but because they show a real downward trend in society where we basically try our best to piss off the generation before us.

[sivispacem]

Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded.

The Great Flood? Sodom? Gomorrah?

And you're calling them innocent? Those people were the definition of lust.

Yes, I'm calling them innocent. The fact that you think simply being promiscuous and bisexual makes you deserving of death is one thing, but what about the babies, the children the elderly, the few chaste members of society?

 

Such a barbaric and archaic belief structure you have.

The sin is inherited hereditary. So that's probably why everyone was killed. Living in that climate, the children, when they were reaching mature age, would do the same as his ancestors.

By that logic, I could be morally justified in torturing you because somewhere along your family line, someone sinned and that makes you culpable and thus deserving of suffering. You do understand where that particular piece of dogma comes from, don't you? From the desire of organised religion to oppress the masses through inherited fear?

[Xylophobia]

Bringing the idea that God killed innocent people is absolutely retarded.

The Great Flood? Sodom? Gomorrah?

And you're calling them innocent? Those people were the definition of lust.

Yes, I'm calling them innocent. The fact that you think simply being promiscuous and bisexual makes you deserving of death is one thing, but what about the babies, the children the elderly, the few chaste members of society?

 

Such a barbaric and archaic belief structure you have.

The sin is inherited hereditary. So that's probably why everyone was killed. Living in that climate, the children, when they were reaching mature age, would do the same as his ancestors.

By that logic, I could be morally justified in torturing you because somewhere along your family line, someone sinned and that makes you culpable and thus deserving of suffering. You do understand where that particular piece of dogma comes from, don't you? From the desire of organised religion to oppress the masses through inherited fear?

No, you have no right in torturing me because you're just another human person just like me.

It's probably exactly the same 'torturing' applied by your parents when you are young. They won't let you out whenever you want, they'll give you a big argument when you're wrong and even though you feel they are the wrong ones, they are doing it probably for your good development.

[Typhus]

I'm allowed to believe what the f*ck I want, really. I don't care if that makes me imbecile in your point of view because I don't give a f*ck about you.

You are allowed to believe in what you want, that's true. But tell me, why do you hate your own species so much that you would rationalise the murder of infants? If this God is real and if he considers life such a cheap commodity - how can you truly love him? Doesn't his bloodthirstiness frighten you? Doesn't it make you wonder if your neck will be on the chopping block one day?

 

Are you afraid of God? And if you are, is that why you make excuses for him and refuse to hold him accountable for his sins? Surely your basic sense of right and wrong is offended by the concept of killing babies? So what else - apart from fear - would compel you to blame an infant for being murdered?

[sivispacem]

 

No, you have no right in torturing me because you're just another human person just like me.

It's probably exactly the same 'torturing' applied by your parents when you are young. They won't let you out whenever you want, they'll give you a big argument when you're wrong and even though you feel they are the wrong ones, they are doing it probably for your good development.

So if I, the perfect living personification of god and all his wisdom and glory, cannot exploit the power he gave me to justify follow his example in treating sinners, what right does he himself have? Doesn't it seem rather hypocritical that he endows the human race with apocalyptic power and the free will to use it, and then fails to lead by example, torturing innocent people on a whim to test their faith and then eternally damning anyone who dares to follow his apparently perfectly pious actions?

[Xylophobia]

 

I'm allowed to believe what the f*ck I want, really. I don't care if that makes me imbecile in your point of view because I don't give a f*ck about you.

You are allowed to believe in what you want, that's true. But tell me, why do you hate your own species so much that you would rationalise the murder of infants? If this God is real and if he considers life such a cheap commodity - how can you truly love him? Doesn't his bloodthirstiness frighten you? Doesn't it make you wonder if your neck will be on the chopping block one day?

 

Are you afraid of God? And if you are, is that why you make excuses for him and refuse to hold him accountable for his sins? Surely your basic sense of right and wrong is offended by the concept of killing babies? So what else - apart from fear - would compel you to blame an infant for being murdered?

Na brother, I don't hate my own species, I hate homosexuals if that's what you mean. Homosexuals are some sick-minded pricks, just like criminals.

 

 

So if I, the perfect living personification of god and all his wisdom and glory, cannot exploit the power he gave me to justify follow his example in treating sinners, what right does he himself have? Doesn't it seem rather hypocritical that he endows the human race with apocalyptic power and the free will to use it, and then fails to lead by example, torturing innocent people on a whim to test their faith andtthen eternally damning anyone who dares to follow his apparently perfectly pious actions?

Humans were given the apocalyptic power because everything has an end.

Edited April 25, 2013 by Xylophobia

[Braindawg]

Never open a topic about religion or a conflict between countries, like the situation in the middle east. Trust me, people on the interwebs like to be smartasses, and this topic will turn into an even bigger arguement.

 

OT: No. Because nobody knows if there is a god or not. Most likely there isn't. So I don't believe in anything.

[sivispacem]

I'm allowed to believe what the f*ck I want, really. I don't care if that makes me imbecile in your point of view because I don't give a f*ck about you.

You are allowed to believe in what you want, that's true. But tell me, why do you hate your own species so much that you would rationalise the murder of infants? If this God is real and if he considers life such a cheap commodity - how can you truly love him? Doesn't his bloodthirstiness frighten you? Doesn't it make you wonder if your neck will be on the chopping block one day?

 

Are you afraid of God? And if you are, is that why you make excuses for him and refuse to hold him accountable for his sins? Surely your basic sense of right and wrong is offended by the concept of killing babies? So what else - apart from fear - would compel you to blame an infant for being murdered?

Na brother, I don't hate my own species, I hate homosexuals if that's what you mean. Homosexuals are some sick-minded pricks, just like criminals.

Care to explain to me how a sexuality you are born with is "sick-minded", yet choosing to follow the teachings of a mass murdering petty sadist isn't?