Do you believe in GOD?

[Apex]

 

Science is a lie (not all of it just the most part about how the universe is shaped) first you need to accept it then open up to see what is real, it takes years to understand a small part of it

 

 

[Spotted Hyena]

 

Okay, so don't be surprised when no one takes you or anything you say seriously when it comes to this subject.

I don't mind, members tend to believe what they want to

 

@DE4TH Again: Come on no need for that, let's get along brother

[Xylophobia]

 

Science is a lie (not all of it just the most part about how the universe is shaped) first you need to accept it then open up to see what is real, it takes years to understand a small part of it

 

 

This is pathetic, the only thing you've said in your last posts was GTFO and f*ck off. Everybody has the right to post deluded things, if you're taking them serious, you're going to feed the lunatic.

[Apex]

Science is a lie (not all of it just the most part about how the universe is shaped) first you need to accept it then open up to see what is real, it takes years to understand a small part of it

 

 

This is pathetic, the only thing you've said in your last posts was GTFO and f*ck off. Everybody has the right to post deluded things, if you're taking them serious, you're going to feed the lunatic.

I never took him seriously. I'm telling him to get out of here so the rest of us can have a normal reasonable conversation. You should probably go too judging by your posts.

[WHAT!?]

We have no evidence for any god or spiritual realm. So it doesn't matter who believes in what, the bottom line is we don't know what is true. Since the truth could be anything we can possibly imagine to exist (hell, maybe something we can't), there's no reason to just pick one and say "I believe this to be true".

Science is a lie (not all of it just the most part about how the universe is shaped) first you need to accept it then open up to see what is real, it takes years to understand a small part of it

Wow I bet we could see the truth together if we did some peyote and went on a spirit journey. I'll do it man. I want to get mid sixties philosophical with you.

[Xylophobia]

Science is a lie (not all of it just the most part about how the universe is shaped) first you need to accept it then open up to see what is real, it takes years to understand a small part of it

 

 

This is pathetic, the only thing you've said in your last posts was GTFO and f*ck off. Everybody has the right to post deluded things, if you're taking them serious, you're going to feed the lunatic.

I never took him seriously. I'm telling him to get out of here so the rest of us can have a normal reasonable conversation. You should probably go too judging by your posts.

We're having a normal conversation, you've been the only one that argued with him on the last two pages. And why should I go? Because I believe in God? Fear not, pal, you just f*ck off if you keep that attitude.

[Bartleby]

 

Na brow, science and atheism HAVE A LOT to do with each other. Science is responsible for twisting people's minds and making them believe in some retarded theories (Big Bang, Aliens DNA). The single thing science needs to do is just to get together with religion and scratch for the truth.

Even if I granted you that science "twists people's minds" (which I don't), you'd still have to show me what it has to do with atheism. As far as I can see, atheism is a response to a claim that a god exists, whereas science is a process we use to determine the nature of the universe we live in. This isn't even an apples-to-oranges comparison, this is apples and toasters.

[Spotted Hyena]

 

Wow I bet we could see the truth together if we did some peyote and went on a spirit journey. I'll do it man. I want to get mid sixties philosophical with you.

Your little joke was well appreciated try and be serious next time

[sivispacem]

Yer brow just don't f*cking swear ok?

Do you want to translate that into a language that's understandable to humans?

 

 

As long as f*cking Bible says God punishes people who are bad

The bible also says that you should murder unbelievers, that stoning adulterers and homosexuals to death is morally justified, and that God is a vindictive bastard who permitted one of his staff to torture, to the point of near death, and murder the family and friends of, a completely innocent, pious and morally righteous man, over an extended period of time, just to settle a petty wager with an underling. Sorry, but the kind of god who lets his personal accuser murder multiple innocent people so he can stick two fingers up at a worthless heavenly servant isn't really the kind that's worthy of worship, regardless of whether he exists or not.

 

 

i don't make this sh*t up

Clearly, you do. On the spot, apparently, which is why you've contradicted yourself multiple times.

 

 

can't prove anything so you can only take my word for it

Why should we take your word for it? What possible prior qualification do you have other than your faith, which is nothing more than a blind belief? I mean, you've claimed superiority over a load of people who've humiliated you in an argument, you've repeatedly backtracked and contradicted yourself, completely failed to explain your views, claimed opinions were facts multiple times and when challenged got hostile. So please forgive me if I don't take your word for anything, seen as you debase the very meaning of intelligent discussion with the utter bilge that comes out of your mouth.

 

 

you need to accept it then open up to see what is real, it takes years to understand a small part of it

Right, because only the enlightened are so incompetent they can't even explain their views in a way that makes sense without calling everyone who disagrees with them "fa**ots". You are an astonishing hypocrite.

 

 

Everybody has the right to post deluded things

And those of us intelligent enough to see them as deluded have the same right to mock and ridicule you in public when you do.

[Xylophobia]

 

Na brow, science and atheism HAVE A LOT to do with each other. Science is responsible for twisting people's minds and making them believe in some retarded theories (Big Bang, Aliens DNA). The single thing science needs to do is just to get together with religion and scratch for the truth.

Even if I granted you that science "twists people's minds" (which I don't), you'd still have to show me what it has to do with atheism. As far as I can see, atheism is a response to a claim that a god exists, whereas science is a process we use to determine the nature of the universe we live in. This isn't even an apples-to-oranges comparison, this is apples and toasters.

In my point of view, this whole "studying the Universe we're living" created the whole idea that God does not exists. I'm sure atheism have always existed, more or less, but Science feed the idea that the Universe is infinite and furthermore the story we've been told in Holy Books just goes classified as a big false. Humans believe they're too superior to be the creation of someone who wasn't seen for a long long time.

 

 

Do you want to translate that into a language that's understandable to humans?

I'm quite sure people understood what I said and you too. I've been joking, if that's what you want to hear.

 

 

The bible also says that you should murder unbelievers, that stoning adulterers and homosexuals to death is morally justified, and that God is a vindictive bastard who permitted one of his staff to torture, to the point of near death, and murder the family and friends of, a completely innocent, pious and morally righteous man, over an extended period of time, just to settle a petty wager with an underling. Sorry, but the kind of god who lets his personal accuser murder multiple innocent people so he can stick two fingers up at a worthless heavenly servant isn't really the kind that's worthy of worship, regardless of whether he exists or not.

Murder unbelievers? Just quote me where it says that in the Bible.

As for homosexuals, they're some sick minded f*cks.

Edited April 24, 2013 by Xylophobia

[Spotted Hyena]

@sivispacem Keep dreaming my friend and maybe you might have enough insight one day to see

[Apex]

Science is a lie (not all of it just the most part about how the universe is shaped) first you need to accept it then open up to see what is real, it takes years to understand a small part of it

 

 

This is pathetic, the only thing you've said in your last posts was GTFO and f*ck off. Everybody has the right to post deluded things, if you're taking them serious, you're going to feed the lunatic.

I never took him seriously. I'm telling him to get out of here so the rest of us can have a normal reasonable conversation. You should probably go too judging by your posts.

We're having a normal conversation, you've been the only one that argued with him on the last two pages. And why should I go? Because I believe in God? Fear not, pal, you just f*ck off if you keep that attitude.

No you should go because you're an ignorant, stubborn idiot. I don't mind theists at all, but people like you who believe Science is a lie and Christianity can't be wrong no matter what should just shut the f*ck up.

[Spotted Hyena]

 

an ignorant, stubborn idiot. I don't mind theists at all, but people like you who believe Science is a lie and Christianity can't be wrong no matter what should just shut the f*ck up.

DE4TH don't start on Xylophobia, Xylophobia Has a great point i think you should have some time off DE4TH

[Bartleby]

 

Na brow, science and atheism HAVE A LOT to do with each other. Science is responsible for twisting people's minds and making them believe in some retarded theories (Big Bang, Aliens DNA). The single thing science needs to do is just to get together with religion and scratch for the truth.

Even if I granted you that science "twists people's minds" (which I don't), you'd still have to show me what it has to do with atheism. As far as I can see, atheism is a response to a claim that a god exists, whereas science is a process we use to determine the nature of the universe we live in. This isn't even an apples-to-oranges comparison, this is apples and toasters.

In my point of view, this whole "studying the Universe we're living" created the whole idea that God does not exists. I'm sure atheism have always existed, more or less, but Science feed the idea that the Universe is infinite and furthermore the story we've been told in Holy Books just goes classified as a big false. Humans believe they're too superior to be the creation of someone who wasn't seen for a long long time.

So basically, science is what prompted us to gain knowledge about the universe, and this questioned the formerly-ironclad hypothesis that a god exists?

 

Yep. I'd agree to that.

 

EDIT: To expound on that, the question of God is not even a scientific one. It is untestable, undemonstrable, and unverifiable. This is why science and atheism have nothing to do with each other. The question of god in a scientific context is a non sequitur.

Edited April 24, 2013 by Bartleby

[Spotted Hyena]

 

basically, science is what prompted us to gain knowledge about the universe, and this questioned the formerly-ironclad hypothesis that a god exists?

 

Yep. I'd agree to that.

Science is something made up by Humans, it can never understand how the universe works

 

If you follow science i pity you

[WHAT!?]

Na brow, science and atheism HAVE A LOT to do with each other. Science is responsible for twisting people's minds and making them believe in some retarded theories (Big Bang, Aliens DNA). The single thing science needs to do is just to get together with religion and scratch for the truth.

Even if I granted you that science "twists people's minds" (which I don't), you'd still have to show me what it has to do with atheism. As far as I can see, atheism is a response to a claim that a god exists, whereas science is a process we use to determine the nature of the universe we live in. This isn't even an apples-to-oranges comparison, this is apples and toasters.

In my point of view, this whole "studying the Universe we're living" created the whole idea that God does not exists. I'm sure atheism have always existed, more or less, but Science feed the idea that the Universe is infinite and furthermore the story we've been told in Holy Books just goes classified as a big false. Humans believe they're too superior to be the creation of someone who wasn't seen for a long long time.

So basically, science is what prompted us to gain knowledge about the universe, and this questioned the formerly-ironclad hypothesis that a god exists?

 

Yep. I'd agree to that.

I'm guessing Galileo Galilei would as well. Since the Catholic church forced him to live most of his life under house arrest because he made this stupid claim that we revolved around the sun. Which would mean we are not the center of the universe... CLEARLY an idiot. f*ckin' Science, eh?

[Bartleby]

basically, science is what prompted us to gain knowledge about the universe, and this questioned the formerly-ironclad hypothesis that a god exists?

 

Yep. I'd agree to that.

Science is something made up by Humans, it can never understand how the universe works

 

If you follow science i pity you

You are able to communicate with me now using a device that was made possible through the scientific process. So y'know, you should try harder to not be a hypocrite.

 

There's no "following" science either. There's no dogma, no faith, no belief. You go where evidence and results lead you. There's bad science as well, just look at Christian Apologist websites. The trick is to check your sources and educate yourself.

[Apex]

basically, science is what prompted us to gain knowledge about the universe, and this questioned the formerly-ironclad hypothesis that a god exists?

 

Yep. I'd agree to that.

Science is something made up by Humans, it can never understand how the universe works

 

If you follow science i pity you

Yet YOU can understand it from "the course of your life"?

[Spotted Hyena]

 

You are able to communicate with me now using a device that was made possible through the scientific process. So y'know, you should try harder to not be a hypocrite.

 

There's no "following" science either. There's no dogma, no faith, no belief. You go where evidence and results lead you. There's bad science as well, just look at Christian Apologist websites. The trick is to check your sources and educate yourself.

Computers (I believe that is what your on about) has nothing to do with the universe, is your brain ok?

 

@DE4TH yes

[Bartleby]

You are able to communicate with me now using a device that was made possible through the scientific process. So y'know, you should try harder to not be a hypocrite.

 

There's no "following" science either. There's no dogma, no faith, no belief. You go where evidence and results lead you. There's bad science as well, just look at Christian Apologist websites. The trick is to check your sources and educate yourself.

Computers (I believe that is what your on about) has nothing to do with the universe, are you brain ok?

You're the one who pities me for "following science". Or are you going to backpedal again and say you were only using it in a cosmic context? In which case, that's cool, but please go and research everything we have learned about the universe in the last two hundred years. The bottom line is if you're not willing to educate yourself, there's no point in us furthering this conversation. You will most likely just keep throwing assertions out with no justification whatsoever.

[Apex]

You are able to communicate with me now using a device that was made possible through the scientific process. So y'know, you should try harder to not be a hypocrite.

 

There's no "following" science either. There's no dogma, no faith, no belief. You go where evidence and results lead you. There's bad science as well, just look at Christian Apologist websites. The trick is to check your sources and educate yourself.

Computers (I believe that is what your on about) has nothing to do with the universe, is your brain ok?

 

@DE4TH yes

Alright I'm just going to ignore all your posts from now on. Any more of your sh*t and I'm gonna punch my screen.

[Spotted Hyena]

 

You're the one who pities me for "following science". Or are you going to backpedal again and say you were only using it in a cosmic context? In which case, that's cool, but please go and research everything we have learned about the universe in the last two hundred years. The bottom line is if you're not willing to educate yourself, there's no point in us furthering this conversation. You will most likely just keep throwing assertions out with no justification whatsoever.

All this stuff that you "Think" you have learned about the universe is a lie, science is a lie and you will continue to fail to accept that

 

Maybe you should open your eyes a bit more and see things that science can't understand

 

@DE4TH good luck on maintaining your sanity

[Adler]

 

basically, science is what prompted us to gain knowledge about the universe, and this questioned the formerly-ironclad hypothesis that a god exists?

 

Yep. I'd agree to that.

Science is something made up by Humans, it can never understand how the universe works

 

If you follow science i pity you

Of course, human collective understanding of the universe for thousands of years up to this point is worth nothing compared to your meager time alive. O mighty Hyena, please show me the way! Show me the truth! But I'm not worthy.

[Bartleby]

You're the one who pities me for "following science". Or are you going to backpedal again and say you were only using it in a cosmic context? In which case, that's cool, but please go and research everything we have learned about the universe in the last two hundred years. The bottom line is if you're not willing to educate yourself, there's no point in us furthering this conversation. You will most likely just keep throwing assertions out with no justification whatsoever.

All this stuff that you "Think" you have learned about the universe is a lie, science is a lie and you will continue to fail to accept that

 

Maybe you should open your eyes a bit more and see things that science can't understand

Okay, bro.

[Spotted Hyena]

 

Okay, bro.

I wish you luck my dear friend

 

@Adler i don't show you anything you must do it yourself and yourself only

[WHAT!?]

You're the one who pities me for "following science". Or are you going to backpedal again and say you were only using it in a cosmic context? In which case, that's cool, but please go and research everything we have learned about the universe in the last two hundred years. The bottom line is if you're not willing to educate yourself, there's no point in us furthering this conversation. You will most likely just keep throwing assertions out with no justification whatsoever.

All this stuff that you "Think" you have learned about the universe is a lie, science is a lie and you will continue to fail to accept that

 

Maybe you should open your eyes a bit more and see things that science can't understand

Okay, bro.

Dude I told you. Peyote journey. I got like $60.00 and a whole week off. We should go see! I bet it's beautiful.

[Spotted Hyena]

 

Dude I told you. Peyote journey. I got like $60.00 and a whole week off. We should go see! I bet it's beautiful.

Such wonderful input you've made, i applause you *Clap *Clap

[Abel.]

You're the one who pities me for "following science". Or are you going to backpedal again and say you were only using it in a cosmic context? In which case, that's cool, but please go and research everything we have learned about the universe in the last two hundred years. The bottom line is if you're not willing to educate yourself, there's no point in us furthering this conversation. You will most likely just keep throwing assertions out with no justification whatsoever.

All this stuff that you "Think" you have learned about the universe is a lie, science is a lie and you will continue to fail to accept that

 

Maybe you should open your eyes a bit more and see things that science can't understand

 

There are certainly certain things, mainly human-centric things, which science will fail to adequately explain, but this in no way invalidates science, as I could point out countless examples of mathematical science being almost irrefutably correct in predicting and explaining many aspects of the universe in which we live.

 

 

[WHAT!?]

Dude I told you. Peyote journey. I got like $60.00 and a whole week off. We should go see! I bet it's beautiful.

Such wonderful input you've made, i applause you *Clap *Clap

Thank you. My greatest wish is to be funny man of night club, like comedian.

 

I would talk seriously for a moment. But I'm trying to stop beating my head against brick walls built of ignorance and stupidity. Now if you'll excuse me, my pizza is ready. Good luck with the whole higher power thing. I hope you save a lot of people. You can use that peyote angle if you want though. You will make yourself much more appealing.

 

Take care and have a wonderful tyme.

[Spotted Hyena]

 

There are certainly certain things, mainly human-centric things, which science will fail to adequately explain, but this in no way invalidates science, as I could point out countless examples of mathematical science being almost irrefutably correct in predicting and explaining many aspects of the universe in which we live.

May i ask what aspects of the universe can science explain?