Muggers, Mercs, and Thieves - O' My!

[fw3]

Two part question here:

1. what's your take on the current mugger, merc, and bounty system? meaning, are you happy with the way these work? With the time delay before contacting Lamar, Lester, or MW?

For me, if the victim evades your mugger or merc, then the money should come back to you (which it does), but there shouldn't be a delay before contacting again. Shouldn't it be available immediately?

And for bounties, I like the idea, but getting one put on you is generally more of a nuisance than anything else. What if there were more to it, like the $9000 came out of the victim's pocket, not the one who called the bounty? If the victim evades the bounty, then yeah, the $9k comes out of the person who called it in.

2. Anyone else have the experience when you call in a mugger and you get the message that the mugger is working for someone else? Or MW tells you the mercs are all tied up? I've been trying to place a bounty on a player whose name doesn't show up in the list - any thoughts on that? (he's got no bounty and I can see his white blip on the radar).

(ie. player is rank 451 and runs me over while in Passive. Okay, fine. But, I retaliate and kill him six times in a row. He runs away into the city (from Trevor's area). I sent a mugger - worked. Sent mercs - worked. But for some reason, I can't set a bounty on him. Why or why not, I wonder?)

Cheers!

[TezST]

Probably a hacker who started a new character hacked to level up but didn't go to lester at level 10 to unlock the bounties

[Mr.Faustin]

I don't mind getting bounties put on me. Its fun to escape other players.

[Dave Rizza]

1. mugger, mercs etc work fine if used right.

 

2. You get that message if someone has already set a mugger on that person. the bounty thing wont show their name in the list if he is in passive mode ( sometimes the blip dosnt show them as passive )

[JoeMamma81]

I don't mind getting bounties put on me. Its fun to escape other players.

 

It is fun - just get into a helo, find a decent rooftop to go onto and pick anyone off to stops and tries to collect. Or find a rooftop with only one ladder to access it, sticky said ladder and wait.

Edited January 11, 2014 by JoeMamma

[Dave Rizza]

I don't mind getting bounties put on me. Its fun to escape other players.

This too. i love it when people set bounties on me. I message them thanking them for the free cash then head to my usual spot and taunt them as its pretty much impossible to get me. No hiding in apartments or glitching through invisible walls either. Just me and my stickies

[UpperBoss]

Probably a hacker who started a new character hacked to level up but didn't go to lester at level 10 to unlock the bounties

 

makes sence

[StewNorth]

1. Mugging is 50/50 in my opinion. I know everyone bangs on about how great muggers are great at catching tanks off-guard, but in my experience it doesn't work out for the mugger so well most of the time. However it's pretty damn awesome if the mugger is used as a "stun". Very useful if you have a sniper with his reticule right on your cover, waiting for you to peak your head out. Send mugger, mugger stuns sniper, pop out of cover and line up your shot. Works everytime as long as you have a good idea/clear shot on where the sniper is.

I hate that the CD is so long though, and that you don't get to see any of the money he's stolen if he gets away (which never happens anyway, since he is so darn slow and just runs away in a straight line while begging to be headshot). If we could keep the money and if he could properly escape, then it would be appreciated.

 

2. Mercenaries are kinda useless. Only viable use for it is to dislodge a player from his position, or to distract him to make a getaway if you are stuck. but there are already much easier ways to do the same thing so it has very little tactical use apart from that.

Generally it's used as the official "you've pissed me off" emote, I just let them kill me now because it saves me the headache of climbing up or killing 4,5 miniwaves of mercs. It's their loss really, costs quite a bit of money and doesn't credit you with my kill. I would much prefer an assassin variant for a similar or higher prize.

 

3. Bounties are awesome. I miss the days when you could put bounties on the same person again, but the RP glitch fixed that for us. I love being hunted, and being the hunter. Don't care about the amount, although I do wish it could be higher like 50k max maybe. I think it would make people roll their eyes less at bounties and encourage them to interact a bit more rather than being scattered across the map. Give them a lower cool-down than 45 mins, and allow us to place higher bounties. Then I'd be utterly satisfied with bounties.

[Rezard]

I really think bounties could go a little higher. Because well before I got giving ridiculous sums of money, $10k didn't mean that much to me.

 

$50k, or maybe even $100k bounties? Now I'll chase that guy up and down the mountains. lol

 

($2 billion bounties got stupid real fast...)

 

There's big enough badasses without mods that merit a higher price.

Edited January 11, 2014 by Rezard

[deanstroyer]

I really think bounties could go a little higher. Because well before I got giving ridiculous sums of money, $10k didn't mean that much to me.

 

$50k, or maybe even $100k bounties? Now I'll chase that guy up and down the mountains. lol

 

($2 billion bounties got stupid real fast...)

 

There's big enough badasses without mods that merit a higher price.

even a 25 k bounty would be a nice addtion. and you could place it on yourself and if you suvive you get like double that

[Dave Rizza]

This thread turned into win quickly

 

 

I don't mind getting bounties put on me. Its fun to escape other players.

 

It is fun - just get into a helo, find a decent rooftop to go onto and pick anyone off to stops and tries to collect. Or find a rooftop with only one ladder to access it, sticky said ladder and wait.

 

Nice to see like minded people although i rarely use rooftops unless i'm really caught off guard. Still vulnerable to other snipers and of course air assaults with a co pilot guiding the missiles for accuracy. I use my spot as its impenatrable. one way in ( stickied) , vehicle outside as distraction to true location which they ALWAYS blow up and have to pay for. Backup hallway ( stickied) and the Buzzard i arrived in ( stickied) for when they realize its fruitless and go to take it . i also have the ability to easily instigate a 2-3 star wanted on myself so that while the cops are pointlessly trying to get me they turn attention to anyone that arrives and shoots a weapon lol. or i just call the cops myself. I've actually had people pay upwards of 20k all in with mercs etc trying to get my 1k bounty b4 ahahaha.

 

Having a bounty is the most fun i have in this game. Loved it in RDR too:)

Edited January 11, 2014 by Dave Rizza

[JoeMamma81]

This thread turned into win quickly

 

 

I don't mind getting bounties put on me. Its fun to escape other players.

 

It is fun - just get into a helo, find a decent rooftop to go onto and pick anyone off to stops and tries to collect. Or find a rooftop with only one ladder to access it, sticky said ladder and wait.

 

Nice to see like minded people although i rarely use rooftops unless i'm really caught off guard. Still vulnerable to other snipers and of course air assaults with a co pilot guiding the missiles for accuracy. I use my spot as its impenatrable. one way in ( stickied) , vehicle outside as distraction to true location which they ALWAYS blow up and have to pay for. Backup hallway ( stickied) and the Buzzard i arrived in ( stickied) for when they realize its fruitless and go to take it . i also have the ability to easily instigate a 2-3 star wanted on myself so that while the cops are pointlessly trying to get me they turn attention to anyone that arrives and shoots a weapon lol. or i just call the cops myself.

 

Having a bounty is the most fun i have in this game. Loved it in RDR too:)

 

Yeah, I have one rooftop I use all the time that, unless I get up on the ledge to snipe or AK the people on the ground, it's impossible to get me unless it's an air assault - and if that's the case, there's a couple places to go to get out of the line of fire, and, hopefully, return fire enough to kill the buzzard guy. I've had people in a maverick try to get me - one flying and one shooting - and they got both got AK'd. I found a good place to get up on a ladder to a roof, but I cannot remember where it was, for the life of me! I used it once, stickied a guy four times before he called me a camping pussy and left....but can't remember where it was.

[StewNorth]

 

I really think bounties could go a little higher. Because well before I got giving ridiculous sums of money, $10k didn't mean that much to me.

 

$50k, or maybe even $100k bounties? Now I'll chase that guy up and down the mountains. lol

 

($2 billion bounties got stupid real fast...)

 

There's big enough badasses without mods that merit a higher price.

even a 25 k bounty would be a nice addtion. and you could place it on yourself and if you suvive you get like double that

 

 

That'd be awesome actually. I'm often trying to jack NPC cars to get a bounty placed on me but it's way too tedious sometimes.

 

Always wanted a "come at me bro" game option, and it could potentially reward both parties if the hunted gets the double of his bounty for surviving through it.

 

25k is a pretty nice amount, very balanced. I could roll with that if 50K was too high for Rockstar's taste. Would work if surviving doubled the amount to 50k anyway. Since survival rewards you 20k for a 20 minutes mission, and a bounty is 48minutes 50k is pretty fair.

 

 

Me wants

Edited January 12, 2014 by StewNorth

[Mr.Faustin]

This thread turned into win quickly

 

 

I don't mind getting bounties put on me. Its fun to escape other players.

 

It is fun - just get into a helo, find a decent rooftop to go onto and pick anyone off to stops and tries to collect. Or find a rooftop with only one ladder to access it, sticky said ladder and wait.

 

Nice to see like minded people although i rarely use rooftops unless i'm really caught off guard. Still vulnerable to other snipers and of course air assaults with a co pilot guiding the missiles for accuracy. I use my spot as its impenatrable. one way in ( stickied) , vehicle outside as distraction to true location which they ALWAYS blow up and have to pay for. Backup hallway ( stickied) and the Buzzard i arrived in ( stickied) for when they realize its fruitless and go to take it . i also have the ability to easily instigate a 2-3 star wanted on myself so that while the cops are pointlessly trying to get me they turn attention to anyone that arrives and shoots a weapon lol. or i just call the cops myself. I've actually had people pay upwards of 20k all in with mercs etc trying to get my 1k bounty b4 ahahaha.

 

Having a bounty is the most fun i have in this game. Loved it in RDR too:)

I usually fly around until some guy tries to crash into with his own plane. I fly way out into sea till the point where the engine of the plane dies out. That way we both crash.

Edited January 12, 2014 by Mr.Faustin

[Gasmasks]

I don't think the bounty should come out of the victim's pocket, because the one who arranged it would pay. I think it could be improved, like you guys said with the ability to put more cash into it. I enjoy hunting down bounties and enjoy escaping people. I'm glad these hermits can't hide away their bounties either, it's part of the free roam fun. You can have people go at you mercilessly for 9 grand. Like homeless people fighting over a bag of heroin. Or maybe you go in like Rambo, surviving an onslaught and keeping it up lol! A pile of noobs underneath you and hoardes still coming.

I want to see the mercenaries become useful, not just a few cars and meat heads trying to shoot at the guy. Come in a Buzzard and blow him up, I paid 7,500 for f*cks sake! They are dumb, easy to evade (Just go into the pay n spray, or your apartment) easy to kill.. That is annoying too, they have sh*t weapons on them, no RPG's? Why not? No grenades? Tear gas? Nothing, just smg's and Carbine's, easy to survive an attack from them before getting into cover and slaughtering them in their masses. I get my friend to send them after me for the fun of it, I massacre them every single time. It's even better when more people send them after me constantly, I love killing them. Blowing up their vans, setting their corpses on fire. Killing them all.

 

The Mugger is okay actually, but the cool down is dumb if he fails. Why should we be penalised because he failed? Stupid. He's also lazy, won't climb up to earn his money. He should get creative, parachute in and stab the guy or something. He's great for stun tactics, pulling noobs out of tanks leaving them vulnerable for a spawn killing.

What about an Assassin guys? He rolls up for ten grand and puts a bullet in someone's head. Obviously they get a chance to counter it in which case you get your money back. That would make the game interesting. The Assassin attacking you or something while you're sitting in your apartment taking a hit of the bong and you lean back and get garroted lmao! Some interesting sh*t could be done with that. Godfather stuff lol!!

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Bowl of popcorn, check apartment tv for arsehole player, call up Lamar, sit back and enjoy.

[JoeMamma81]

I've got three more bounties to collect before I get my tatt....I'm on the prowl!

[StewNorth]

What about an Assassin guys? He rolls up for ten grand and puts a bullet in someone's head. Obviously they get a chance to counter it in which case you get your money back. That would make the game interesting. The Assassin attacking you or something while you're sitting in your apartment taking a hit of the bong and you lean back and get garroted lmao! Some interesting sh*t could be done with that. Godfather stuff lol!!

 

I'd love an assassin for 10k. To make it fair to both parties since it would be expensive but it shouldn't be impossible to counter either, but I think it should come with no warning popping up to let you know you have an assassin after you and only show you a skull popping up on your minimap just a few seconds before he strikes. Maybe make the assassin vanish in a cloud of smoke if he failed the first time, and he can have one last attempt before utterly failing his contract.

 

I know I'm dreaming, but it would be pretty cool.

[Dave Rizza]

I've got three more bounties to collect before I get my tatt....I'm on the prowl!

I'm very close too

 

Look out

[postalsniper]

I love the idea of the assassin. Someone that's a professional at his work and is almost always gets his target. I'd pay upwards of $25k for that! I agree the marryweather idiots need some training and skill. The mugger is just funny. Especially using them to piss off the squealing kids on their mics.

[Pixel S]

You can bypass getting bounties set on you if you ignore Lester's calls from rank 10.

I have done so on my rank 25 character. It's pointless as you lose the remove wanted level he offers which is worth the trade.

 

The current systems are fine too.Only having one set of mercs at once is for the better.

The mugger should allow for more though and lower it's cooldown.

Edited January 12, 2014 by GTARACER93

[RAS_ZeroZ]

I love sending the mugger after people while watching them on tv.... but I hate it when they die seconds after I call Lamar The mugger should still go after them, at least one more time.

 

I've also noticed that the game will mix up when someone is killed by another player when it should have been merryweather mercs.. seen this happen many times, I'll order the mercs, watch them be killed on the television by another player and merryweather never shows up. But I always get a phone call from that lady saying the peacekeeping operation was a success.

Edited January 12, 2014 by RAS_ZeroZ

[SFBryan18]

The cooldown time to use these is a fair way to avoid players spamming them.

[TCB-00]

I've recently unlocked the mercenaries and I have mixed feelings about them... it's a great concept but it's too easily avoided and when another player kills the target the mercs go away.... they should have to kill the player before they go away, or if the player outruns them for long enough so be it. I'd also like to see them with better weaponry and be able to use buzzards and whatnot

[codename_duchess]

Bowl of popcorn, check apartment tv for arsehole player, call up Lamar, sit back and enjoy.

"We gonna have him took"

 

That line makes me laugh so much, especially when the mugger gets it right. I've had players chasing their cars around the city and tank griefers crying at their lost tanks

 

Seems like the bounty system is becoming useful again. With all the new players after xmas and the money/god mode stuff dealt with, a $9000 bounty can get a lobby pretty excitable again

[deanstroyer]

i wish you could hire a npc gunman, to ride shotgun with you, and just shoots at every other player.. like backup that you call and you go pick him up and he last for like 10 -15 min or untill he gets killed .. or you pay 1000 per minute of backup

[fw3]

A $25k call-in for an Assassin would be an excellent addition.

I'd also love a "Bribe Cops" option in addition to Lester's "Remove Wanted," which could maybe reduce the number of stars ($100=1 star, $200=2 stars, etc)?

Lastly, the Airstrike is one of the most useless options; I'd love to see an Air Raid option, where several jets or Buzzards come in and shoot the whole place up.

Now that'd be cool! Just sayin' is all!

[iiGh0STt]

i think lester should have been off the radar for at least 5 minutes(with a 15 min wait period), no limit on removing wanted levels (you are paying for it anyways) and the latest limit to merc's is absurd. maybe 20 min. not 45.

lamar should not matter much, so maybe 10 min. good for tanks and idiots who follow you then sit in one spot waiting for you.

and lastly but a bit off topic, my heli's should be deliverd to me when calling pegasus.

[Wayne Daniels]

I would actually like to be able to set bounties on myself.

[Coin]

Preface: My experiences/opinion.

 

Muggers - Rate of effectiveness renders them largely useless.

Bounties - Don't know about altering the timer, but you should be able to place larger bounties than the 9k option.

Mercs - Halved timer if they fail. Honestly should have some air support as well. Speaking of which..

Air support - Sucks as is.

Air strike - Current format blows. Should designate an area using the map, not a flare. Failing that, laser designator.