They say Assassins Creed IV does the ocean better than GTA V?

[RememberToTaper]

I never played AC IV (only played AC 1 and 2), but I keep hearing this.

I've seen videos of AC IV but it has pirate ships and harpooning, but you obviously can't do that in GTA V without looking ridiculous.

 

 

(1) Can anyone here who has played both GTA V + AC IV explain with some examples what you can do that was better in terms of interactivity?

 

(2) Some also say the AC IV ocean technology graphically beats GTA V. Is this true? I thought the ocean in GTA V was beautiful and R* did an incredible job.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 11, 2014 by RememberToTaper

[kvic]

They did a great job on the water in V but it only matters if you spend all your time in it.

[Xerukal]

Black Flag has incredibly realistic water physics, for sure. As well as an absolutely beautiful open sea that is relaxing to sail about.

 

The interactivity is bigger. But it is instanced. In the open sea, you can only go underwater by using your Diving Bell. From there, you are put into a sub-area of sorts. A smaller location with mini-objectives. Like chests to collect and sometimes, secrets to uncover. While facing several underwater dangers such as sharks, jellyfish and the like.

 

There's also the harpooning. Which is also a "mission" prompt in the open sea. There are several types of whales/sharks to hunt. And they all have specific locations on the sea map.

 

Graphically, though? I'd say Black Flag definitely does it better. The Caribbean sea is just amazing. And as I said, the physics are insanely realistic.

Edited January 11, 2014 by Xerukal

[Officer Ronson]

I've seen some videos and the water looks really clear, thus exposing it all. It has a low ammount of detail literally, although there is some more Sea life than V.

[Detective Phelps]

I got ACIV and GTA V.

 

Both games have good oceans, but ACIV does it far better than V.

The underwater is excellent in ACIV, with good rewards for the endeavouring. The ocean is what the game is about! Also, you can harpoon sharks and whales (this, as you can tell, pissed off PETA ). GTA V's focus is not on the ocean, yet it, too, does the job well. The submersible is far better than the diving bell, and there are a lot of treasures, like ACIV. The underwater mechanics are better on ACIV, though. In ACIV, you can go to barrels to breath, but in V, you magically get some underwater breathing equipment.

 

In summary, both games have excellent oceans, but ACIV beats GTA V by far. But this is because ACIV focuses on the ocean, whilst GTA V does not. However, GTA V has far more freedom than AC4. For example, you can explore the entire ocean floor in GTA V, but only specific underwater locations in AC4.

Edited January 11, 2014 by Los Santos Police Department

[Nessa]

Black Flag Was Good

[Official General]

They did a great job on the water in V but it only matters if you spend all your time in it.

 

This

 

Firstly, I hardly spent anytime underwater while playing GTA V. Secondly, there just was nothing really exciting or interesting enough to do down there. I barely saw any sea life and I still have not even bumped into a shark. It looks good, but I think it was not executed well enough. It was just a nicely dressed up version of the underwater section of San Andreas.

Edited January 11, 2014 by Official General

[IceHot100]

I have played AC BF. And no way is it better than GTA V. No and I'm not fanboying, as I myself am a big former AC fan. In terms of interactivty yes the seas of BF are better but they are NOT even "open world". There are specific places where you can dive, otherwise the only thing you can do is swim on the surface. Pretty shallow of them if you ask me. (pun intended)

 

Although, yes AC BF does beat V graphically, though that is to be expected, because they had more room for graphics as it was not limited to the 3/360 gen of consoles

Edited January 11, 2014 by IceHot100

[GTA-Freak-Vi]

I heard in AC IV if you want to explore the ocean, it has to load it before you do, whereas in GTA V it's already rendered, not sure about that

[tymaster50]

AC:IV of course does the ocean better, it also has better graphics too but that is to be expected. I loved AC:IV, can't wait for AC5.

[Detective Phelps]

I have played AC BF. And no way is it better than GTA V. No and I'm not fanboying, as I myself am a big former AC fan. In terms of interactivty yes the seas of BF are better but they are NOT even "open world". There are specific places where you can dive, otherwise the only thing you can do is swim on the surface. Pretty shallow of them if you ask me. (pun intended)

 

Although, yes AC BF does beat V graphically, though that is to be expected, because they had more room for graphics as it was not limited to the 3/360 gen of consoles

Yes, there is, and always has been a great difference in freedom in the two series.

 

For example, you can kill civies in GTA, but not in AC. But AC has a reason for this, the tenets.

Edited January 11, 2014 by Los Santos Police Department

[IceHot100]

 

I have played AC BF. And no way is it better than GTA V. No and I'm not fanboying, as I myself am a big former AC fan. In terms of interactivty yes the seas of BF are better but they are NOT even "open world". There are specific places where you can dive, otherwise the only thing you can do is swim on the surface. Pretty shallow of them if you ask me. (pun intended)

 

Although, yes AC BF does beat V graphically, though that is to be expected, because they had more room for graphics as it was not limited to the 3/360 gen of consoles

Yes, there is, and always has been, a great difference in freedom in the two series.

 

For example, you can kill civies in GTA, but not in AC. But AC has a reason for this, the tenets.

 

haha, tenets? The have long destroyed what they now call Assassin's Creed. More like Pirates Creed, a game which though does have beauty in it but no substance. This thing is what I like about Rockstar, they never abandoned their oldtime fans by changing the sh*t out of the game.

 

Sorry for the ranting, but had to get the frustration out

[tymaster50]

 

I have played AC BF. And no way is it better than GTA V. No and I'm not fanboying, as I myself am a big former AC fan. In terms of interactivty yes the seas of BF are better but they are NOT even "open world". There are specific places where you can dive, otherwise the only thing you can do is swim on the surface. Pretty shallow of them if you ask me. (pun intended)

 

Although, yes AC BF does beat V graphically, though that is to be expected, because they had more room for graphics as it was not limited to the 3/360 gen of consoles

Yes, there is, and always has been a great difference in freedom in the two series.

 

For example, you can kill civies in GTA, but not in AC. But AC has a reason for this, the tenets.

 

AC never prided itself on being like GTA in fact it would make no sense at all to go around killing civillians. I've played all of the AC games and I find it good that they don't let you kill just for the sake of killing unless it is a guard (which there are plenty of in every game) When did they destroy assassins creed? just because it isn't about desmond doesn't mean it isn't assassins creed. If I recall, the creed is heavily involved in the storyline. Edward pretty much stopped the whole pirate pilaging free lancer stuff like halfway through the game and started on his way to become an assassin. So what is your reasoning for saying that?

 

 

haha, tenets? The have long destroyed what they now call Assassin's Creed. More like Pirates Creed, a game which though does

have beauty in it but no substance. This thing is what I like about Rockstar, they never abandoned their oldtime fans by changing the sh*t out of the game.

Sorry for the ranting, but had to get the frustration out

Edited January 11, 2014 by tymaster50

[Silky]

I've loved all the AC titles (except the first one, just couldn't get into that for some reason) and I think the ocean is superior in Black Flag compared to GTA:V but like kvic above me says, GTA:V's ocean is amazing, its just the game isn't designed to spend most of your free time on it unlike ACIV:BF which is, so I feel maybe more effort was put into the ocean on BF.

 

The only thing I'm not too keen on in BF is the way you can go from a beautiful sunny day to a dark cloud ridden sky with thunder and lightening and waves the size of skyscrapers within about 5 seconds of game play!

 

But having never personally been a pirate on the Caribbean sea I don't know if this is realistic or not

[tymaster50]

I've loved all the AC titles (except the first one, just couldn't get into that for some reason) and I think the ocean is superior in Black Flag compared to GTA:V but like kvic above me says, GTA:V's ocean is amazing, its just the game isn't designed to spend most of your free time on it unlike ACIV:BF which is, so I feel maybe more effort was put into the ocean on BF.

 

The only thing I'm not too keen on in BF is the way you can go from a beautiful sunny day to a dark cloud ridden sky with thunder and lightening and waves the size of skyscrapers within about 5 seconds of game play!

 

But having never personally been a pirate on the Caribbean sea I don't know if this is realistic or not

Apparently they had to limit the weather on current gen for xbox, but on next gen it is tons better. Even the grass moves in next gen lol

[IceHot100]

 

 

I have played AC BF. And no way is it better than GTA V. No and I'm not fanboying, as I myself am a big former AC fan. In terms of interactivty yes the seas of BF are better but they are NOT even "open world". There are specific places where you can dive, otherwise the only thing you can do is swim on the surface. Pretty shallow of them if you ask me. (pun intended)

 

Although, yes AC BF does beat V graphically, though that is to be expected, because they had more room for graphics as it was not limited to the 3/360 gen of consoles

Yes, there is, and always has been a great difference in freedom in the two series.

 

For example, you can kill civies in GTA, but not in AC. But AC has a reason for this, the tenets.

 

AC never prided itself on being like GTA in fact it would make no sense at all to go around killing civillians. I've played all of the AC games and I find it good that they don't let you kill just for the sake of killing unless it is a guard (which there are plenty of in every game) When did they destroy assassins creed? just because it isn't about desmond doesn't mean it isn't assassins creed. If I recall, the creed is heavily involved in the storyline. Edward pretty much stopped the whole pirate pilaging free lancer stuff like halfway through the game and started on his way to become an assassin. So what is your reasoning for saying that?

 

 

haha, tenets? The have long destroyed what they now call Assassin's Creed. More like Pirates Creed, a game which though does

have beauty in it but no substance. This thing is what I like about Rockstar, they never abandoned their oldtime fans by changing the sh*t out of the game.

Sorry for the ranting, but had to get the frustration out

 

 

I don't know how deep you were in the series but for they did not only disappoint me but also a lot of other AC fans I know.

 

Firstly, the most obvious thing, AC3 is considered a conclusion to the original trilogy, so the climax is expected to be big. And what do they do? Make a 5 minutes half-assed ending, which doesn't even feel like an ending. The worst, and I mean it, the worst ending I have EVER seen in a video game.

 

Then, the questions which were raised in the previous AC games are left unanswered, the quotes and dialogues such as "your son, the sun" , or "Eve will lead us" or Lucy, a vital plot point in the story, was ignorantly shown in a freaking DLC? REALLY?

 

About the Assassin's, in AC BF the presence of the Assassin Templar conflict is significantly lower than in any of the previous games. And even if you ignore the modern day part, you won't miss anything, because the story barely moves on.

 

Choosing America in AC3 was a really bad decision, really really bad. AC is about climbing from one building to other. Look at Boston or New York. Does it look like it would be convenient climbing that stuff?

 

Even the company itself is the worst. They make annual releases and stated that they're proud of that and even fired the freaking creative director of Assassin's Creed. He wanted to save the game, but no...

 

Just my opinion Miss

Edited January 11, 2014 by IceHot100

[Camsterguy]

ACIV has better water but that's because the game's main feature is water...

[Silky]

 

Apparently they had to limit the weather on current gen for xbox, but on next gen it is tons better. Even the grass moves in next gen lol

 

 

I am on 360 as well, so that might explain a lot!

[tymaster50]

 

 

 

I have played AC BF. And no way is it better than GTA V. No and I'm not fanboying, as I myself am a big former AC fan. In terms of interactivty yes the seas of BF are better but they are NOT even "open world". There are specific places where you can dive, otherwise the only thing you can do is swim on the surface. Pretty shallow of them if you ask me. (pun intended)

 

Although, yes AC BF does beat V graphically, though that is to be expected, because they had more room for graphics as it was not limited to the 3/360 gen of consoles

Yes, there is, and always has been a great difference in freedom in the two series.

 

For example, you can kill civies in GTA, but not in AC. But AC has a reason for this, the tenets.

 

AC never prided itself on being like GTA in fact it would make no sense at all to go around killing civillians. I've played all of the AC games and I find it good that they don't let you kill just for the sake of killing unless it is a guard (which there are plenty of in every game) When did they destroy assassins creed? just because it isn't about desmond doesn't mean it isn't assassins creed. If I recall, the creed is heavily involved in the storyline. Edward pretty much stopped the whole pirate pilaging free lancer stuff like halfway through the game and started on his way to become an assassin. So what is your reasoning for saying that?

 

 

haha, tenets? The have long destroyed what they now call Assassin's Creed. More like Pirates Creed, a game which though does

have beauty in it but no substance. This thing is what I like about Rockstar, they never abandoned their oldtime fans by changing the sh*t out of the game.

Sorry for the ranting, but had to get the frustration out

 

 

I don't know how deep you were in the series but for they did not only disappoint me but also a lot of other AC fans I know.

 

Firstly, the most obvious thing, AC3 is considered a conclusion to the original trilogy, so the climax is expected to be big. And what do they do? Make a 5 minutes half-assed ending, which doesn't even feel like an ending. The worst, and I mean it, the worst ending I have EVER seen in a video game.

 

Then, the questions which were raised in the previous AC games are left unanswered, the quotes and dialogues such as "your son, the sun" , or "Eve will lead us" or Lucy, a vital plot point in the story, was ignorantly shown in a freaking DLC? REALLY?

 

About the Assassin's, in AC BF the presence of the Assassin Templar conflict is significantly lower than in any of the previous games. And even if you ignore the modern day part, you won't miss anything, because the story barely moves on.

 

Choosing America in AC3 was a really bad decision, really really bad. AC is about climbing from one building to other. Look at Boston or New York. Does it look like it would be convenient climbing that stuff?

 

Even the company itself is the worst. They make annual releases and stated that they're proud of that and even fired the freaking creative director of Assassin's Creed. He wanted to save the game, but no...

 

Just my opinion Miss

 

im a guy, and IMO AC4 is one of the best in the series. Not everything has to be about some sacreligious conflict. I liked getting to know Connors grandfather and i liked how he grew into an assassin, not born into it or made one out of necessity. The guy flat out told him he wasn't welcome, unlike the other protagonists.

[BBQ RIBS]

I played ACBF for like 4 hours and never bothered again lol. So I can't say much about the ocean but it's to be expected to be much better, obviously.

Edited January 11, 2014 by BBQ RIBS

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

AC IV ocean looks amazing on the next gen consoles. But on the 360 and PS3 it's rubbish.

[Deus Ex]

Gta V sea is great, it's done well and it looks good. But compared to Black Flag...

Black Flag is better.

Edited January 11, 2014 by Deus Ex

[BLOOD]

GTA 5 ocean is just pure great and blue ,i have not played Assassins Creed:Blag Flag so i dont know but i saw the current-gen graphics and GTA 5 is better than it but yeah the next-gen version looks great.

[Algonquin Assassin]

AC: IV's ocean is arguably more detailed. The underwater caves are done exceptionally well. R* done a good with underwater in GTA V, but really it's quite generic compared to AC: IV IMO.

 

I'm speaking from the 360 version of AC: IV and I have GTA V on PS3.

[stobe187]

I think as far as weight and "feel" goes, GTA V blows AC IV out the water. Yes that was a bad pun. That said, I have played current-gen versions of both. But in the PS3 version of Black Flag the ocean repeats textures, looks rigid and doesn't have the same "feedback" to it than the ocean in V does.

 

In other news, f*ck Ubi for marketing Black Flag as an open-world game when most of the islands have nothing on them and you can't even go into em. Just jagged rocks and trees copypasted around the map.

 

GTA has spoiled me because I want to be able to go everywhere I can see.

[BLOOD]

I think as far as weight and "feel" goes, GTA V blows AC IV out the water. Yes that was a bad pun. That said, I have played current-gen versions of both. But in the PS3 version of Black Flag the ocean repeats textures, looks rigid and doesn't have the same "feedback" to it than the ocean in V does.

 

In other news, f*ck Ubi for marketing Black Flag as an open-world game when most of the islands have nothing on them and you can't even go into em. Just jagged rocks and trees copypasted around the map.

 

GTA has spoiled me because I want to be able to go everywhere I can see.

Exactly bro.GTA was the Franchise that Popularised the Genre in the first place so Freedom to do anything is the Franchise Priority.Assassins Creed,Saints Row,Sleeping Dogs etc are just trying to emulated and do what GTA already did and they all fail.the only AC game i played was the second one and OMG that game was "THE MOST RESTRICTIVE GAME EUER",you cant kill ped or go anywhere without get a red screen,while Saint Row(the second one was great and a wacky version of GTA:SA)the series just went retarded turning into a Prototype Clone Franchise which it should have been in the First Place,Sleeping Dogs is a "Flop"and i regreat buying it,but the fighting system is the only new thing it brought to a genre dominated by GTA.tbh i want to see an openworld franchise that would give the King of the Genre(GTA) a tough time,lol i cant see that happening after GTA 5 got 1bn in 3days and sealing GTA as the "Most Successful Game Franchise of All Time".and again i am sure Watch-dog was delayed to learn things from GTA. Edited January 12, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond

[qfs]

Exactly bro.GTA was the Franchise that Popularised the Genre in the first place so Freedom to do anything is the Franchise Priority.Assassins Creed,Saints Row,Sleeping Dogs etc are just trying to emulated and do what GTA already did and they all fail.the only AC game i played was the second one and OMG that game was "THE MOST RESTRICTIVE GAME EUER",you cant kill ped or go anywhere without get a red screen,while Saint Row(the second one was great and a wacky version of GTA:SA)the series just went retarded turning into a Prototype Clone Franchise which it should have been in the First Place,Sleeping Dogs is a "Flop"and i regreat buying it,but the fighting system is the only new thing it brought to a genre dominated by GTA.tbh i want to see an openworld franchise that would give the King of the Genre(GTA) a tough time,lol i cant see that happening after GTA 5 got 1bn in 3days and sealing GTA as the "Most Successful Game Franchise of All Time".and again i am sure Watch-dog was delayed to learn things from GTA.

 

GTA can only get a tough time inside its franchise, with R* publishing more great open world games. There are of course chances for Assasins Creed to evolve into an eve better open world game than ACIV was. Let's see how Watch-Dogs is later, but I feel it has more the gta iv vibe. But so far Ubisoft has been developing a lot for open world titles. Let's also not forget about The Crew, even if is in the same style as driver san francisco for being a game where you spend the time inside the car.

[BLOOD]

 

 

 

Exactly bro.GTA was the Franchise that Popularised the Genre in the first place so Freedom to do anything is the Franchise Priority.Assassins Creed,Saints Row,Sleeping Dogs etc are just trying to emulated and do what GTA already did and they all fail.the only AC game i played was the second one and OMG that game was "THE MOST RESTRICTIVE GAME EUER",you cant kill ped or go anywhere without get a red screen,while Saint Row(the second one was great and a wacky version of GTA:SA)the series just went retarded turning into a Prototype Clone Franchise which it should have been in the First Place,Sleeping Dogs is a "Flop"and i regreat buying it,but the fighting system is the only new thing it brought to a genre dominated by GTA.tbh i want to see an openworld franchise that would give the King of the Genre(GTA) a tough time,lol i cant see that happening after GTA 5 got 1bn in 3days and sealing GTA as the "Most Successful Game Franchise of All Time".and again i am sure Watch-dog was delayed to learn things from GTA.

 

GTA can only get a tough time inside its franchise, with R* publishing more great open world games. There are of course chances for Assasins Creed to evolve into an eve better open world game than ACIV was. Let's see how Watch-Dogs is later, but I feel it has more the gta iv vibe. But so far Ubisoft has been developing a lot for open world titles. Let's also not forget about The Crew, even if is in the same style as driver san francisco for being a game where you spend the time inside the car.

I hope Watch-Dog is more of a GTA Clone or even Close to GTA than Sleeping-dogs or Assassins Creed.I love Saint Row 2 because it basically rip-off GTA:SA feature but also was wacky,Volition could have continue under the term "GTA Clone" instead they made Saints Row 3 and 4 a Generic Superhero Openworld Games.I hope Watch-Dog actually have that GTA Realism,Features and Freedom.I am still wondering what will happen if Watch-Dog actually make players get a lap Dance at a strip club(lol Rockstar would sue them)but tbh GTA is the Only Franchise that make Strip Club so interactive and realistic and GTA 5 expanded on that.maybe Ubisoft could ask Rockstar permission for that element,because even Saints Row have hoes but you couldnt get a lap dance or get a blowjob with a prostitue just like in a GTA game.

[Shane_Dbns]

There's something missing in AC:black flags. I don't know what, but it lacks... Something. Maybe its better on next gen consoles

[Mr Oraange]

The ocean was only used in one or two missions in Grand Theft Auto V, and presented in a way to make the most out of the tiny reef off Vespucci Beach to show off in pre-release gameplay.

Haven't played Assassin's Creed IV yet, but the ocean looks much better than in GTA V. Then again, it is based around pirates. And all I've seen is pre-release gameplay….