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I have no interest in Multiplayer


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  1. 1. Do you prefer Singleplayer over Multiplayer?



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Rockstar should really take a long hard look at this thread and learn an important lesson from it for the next GTA.

I hope Rockstar take a long hard look at this forum and expand the yoga feature.

 

 

You loved it that much ? Well you can always e-mail them and ask them to do that.

 

Not really, it would just amuse me to see you haters of the game scream even louder.

I think R* should take a long hard look at this forum and completely disregard it and label it as a cesspool.

I wouldn't imagine they'd take the petulant whinging from entitled kids too seriously anyway. Perhaps Jimmy's "entitled" tattoo was a message?

 

 

I don't know how this discussion about dislike and like of online MP suddenly turned into one about yoga and hating GTA V :blink:

 

Because you were again implying that the overall game is bad because of R*'s focus on MP. Like you, I too couldn't give the slightest f*ck about online, but in no way do I feel it had a significant impact on the SP aspect. The only thing that slightly annoys me is the whole 'interior' thing, but I'm going to reserve judgement until all dlc has been released.

 

 

I still don't get what that had to do with yoga, when I never even mentioned the word, nor did I say anything about hating GTA V. You went there on your own, why on earth I still don't understand.

 

Anyway, whatever.

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I do sometimes play multiplayer, but after a while, I just end up going back to singleplayer. I find that it's more enjoyable for me. I like the missions better, I don't watch my pennies as much, so to speak (I'm really stingy about spending money online, but I'm not that way offline), and I actually like hanging out with the characters. I can always think of something new to do, so I don't get easily bored. It's just my cup of tea, so to speak.

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prefer SP but would love online more if Solo/Invite Only sessions had

 

1. 100% of the stuff they put into SP AND

 

2. 100% of the stuff they they put into GTA III: SA and cut from SP in GTA V

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It's all about the online for me. I enjoy the SP experience in GTA games but I'm kind of glad they at least tried to improve online with V. Actually the first thing I did when I bought the game was go straight into online. Yeah we all know there are tons of bugs, glitches and annoying kids but for the most part, I've really had a fun time in online. Looking at my stats, I've spent 6 days in online and only 13 hours on the SP (lol). Maybe the ones who hate MP need to just give it another chance. Find some friends or a decent crew? There's so much more to it than just griefing players.

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To all the people saying: "SP got GTA where it is today!"

 

Well...no sh*t. Any game before the MP times got that franchise where it is today.

 

Halo - it is a stretch, but the only way you could get MP was through LAN, so I'm counting it.

 

CoD - As far as I can remember, didn't have multiplayer when it came out.

 

Any game that came out pre-multiplayer and is still going.

 

Look, if you're gonna have a successful game nowadays, you're gonna need multiplayer (Excluding the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series, since multiplayer in those games are just improbable. And even then, ESO!)

 

That being said, R* hasn't exactly gotten into the groove of their own MP experience yet. You can definitely tell they've never done anything like this before by how broken it is.

 

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and give them some more time to fix it, because MP is hella fun when with friends, and sometimes more fun when RPing by yourself.

 

50/50 for me.

The Witcher 2, Infamous, Just Cause 2, Mafia 2, and Deus Ex HR to name a few have done well. And those games are strictly single player. GTA Online shouldn't even be a part of V. They should've done what Bethesda did. At least that way they could've avoided this whole mess to begin with

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To all the people saying: "SP got GTA where it is today!"

 

Well...no sh*t. Any game before the MP times got that franchise where it is today.

 

Halo - it is a stretch, but the only way you could get MP was through LAN, so I'm counting it.

 

CoD - As far as I can remember, didn't have multiplayer when it came out.

 

Any game that came out pre-multiplayer and is still going.

 

Look, if you're gonna have a successful game nowadays, you're gonna need multiplayer (Excluding the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series, since multiplayer in those games are just improbable. And even then, ESO!)

 

That being said, R* hasn't exactly gotten into the groove of their own MP experience yet. You can definitely tell they've never done anything like this before by how broken it is.

 

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and give them some more time to fix it, because MP is hella fun when with friends, and sometimes more fun when RPing by yourself.

 

50/50 for me.

The Witcher 2, Infamous, Just Cause 2, Mafia 2, and Deus Ex HR to name a few have done well. And those games are strictly single player. GTA Online shouldn't even be a part of V. They should've done what Bethesda did. At least that way they could've avoided this whole mess to begin with

 

inFamous needs to have online mode.

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To all the people saying: "SP got GTA where it is today!"

 

Well...no sh*t. Any game before the MP times got that franchise where it is today.

 

Halo - it is a stretch, but the only way you could get MP was through LAN, so I'm counting it.

 

CoD - As far as I can remember, didn't have multiplayer when it came out.

 

Any game that came out pre-multiplayer and is still going.

 

Look, if you're gonna have a successful game nowadays, you're gonna need multiplayer (Excluding the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series, since multiplayer in those games are just improbable. And even then, ESO!)

 

That being said, R* hasn't exactly gotten into the groove of their own MP experience yet. You can definitely tell they've never done anything like this before by how broken it is.

 

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and give them some more time to fix it, because MP is hella fun when with friends, and sometimes more fun when RPing by yourself.

 

50/50 for me.

 

great post and 100% on point. But I can't share your optimism. I can't shake a sense of foreboding that R* will eventually fail in the Great Hacker Cyber War. Because I'm slowly coming to believe the the hacker inmates will eventually take over the asylum that GTAO has become in the future. Even with the ambiguous fixes that 1.09 has apparently addressed, I wouldn't be surprised if hackers found a way to bypass this some 24 to 48 hrs from now.....

 

So basically, I fear that R* will be stuck in an infinite loop of dev multiplayer purgatory. Releasing update after update of increasingly desperate security fixes which are 100% ineffective. :facedesk:

 

Which means no time or focus to release any quality DLC for GTAO in the future. :/

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To all the people saying: "SP got GTA where it is today!"

 

Well...no sh*t. Any game before the MP times got that franchise where it is today.

 

Halo - it is a stretch, but the only way you could get MP was through LAN, so I'm counting it.

 

CoD - As far as I can remember, didn't have multiplayer when it came out.

 

Any game that came out pre-multiplayer and is still going.

 

Look, if you're gonna have a successful game nowadays, you're gonna need multiplayer (Excluding the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series, since multiplayer in those games are just improbable. And even then, ESO!)

 

That being said, R* hasn't exactly gotten into the groove of their own MP experience yet. You can definitely tell they've never done anything like this before by how broken it is.

 

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and give them some more time to fix it, because MP is hella fun when with friends, and sometimes more fun when RPing by yourself.

 

50/50 for me.

Are you implying COD and Halo got popular from Single Player?

 

If so then please quit gaming.

 

COD got its spike with MW2 which was focus more online than offline.

 

Halo got its spike with Halo 3 which was focus more online than offline.

 

People knew those two games cause of the online.

 

GTA got its spike with GTA III which was a Single Player only game. VC and SA even passed it up with NO online.

 

You always find a reason to defend Rockstar. Why?

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It's hard to know exactly if GTAO did in fact compromise single player, but I don't believe R* focused on single player the same way like if GTA V had multiplayer like GTA IV, RDR and MP3 which for their time were fairly standard.

 

Clearly with GTAO R* wanted to try something different, but I agree with Official General that they perhaps got too ambitious and now it's come back to bite them on the ass.

 

I'm no game developer (obviously), but maybe they should've waited until they started developing with the XB1/PS4? I wouldn't have cared if GTA V's multiplayer was run of the mill to be honest.

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To all the people saying: "SP got GTA where it is today!"

 

Well...no sh*t. Any game before the MP times got that franchise where it is today.

 

Halo - it is a stretch, but the only way you could get MP was through LAN, so I'm counting it.

 

CoD - As far as I can remember, didn't have multiplayer when it came out.

 

Any game that came out pre-multiplayer and is still going.

 

Look, if you're gonna have a successful game nowadays, you're gonna need multiplayer (Excluding the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series, since multiplayer in those games are just improbable. And even then, ESO!)

 

That being said, R* hasn't exactly gotten into the groove of their own MP experience yet. You can definitely tell they've never done anything like this before by how broken it is.

 

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and give them some more time to fix it, because MP is hella fun when with friends, and sometimes more fun when RPing by yourself.

 

50/50 for me.

 

Are you implying COD and Halo got popular from Single Player?

If so then please quit gaming.

 

COD got its spike with MW2 which was focus more online than offline.

 

Halo got its spike with Halo 3 which was focus more online than offline.

 

People knew those two games cause of the online.

 

GTA got its spike with GTA III which was a Single Player only game. VC and SA even passed it up with NO online.

 

You always find a reason to defend Rockstar. Why?

Actually, Im pretty sure Halo got popular because of Combat Evolved, which was a revolutionary game for it's time, so naturally everyone started talking about which provoked Bungie to make Halo 2, which was very hyped.

 

Also, I'm not a big fan of COD but I don't think they would of gotten to a 5th game if the previous ones werent successful.

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If I responded to this a month ago, I would have said yes. I'm at 100% on SP and ventured into the online world...it's not that bad, as long as you don't get into a server with a bunch of jackwagons. When I do get into a server that's full of assholes, I'll just switch lobbies until I find one I like.

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To all the people saying: "SP got GTA where it is today!"

 

Well...no sh*t. Any game before the MP times got that franchise where it is today.

 

Halo - it is a stretch, but the only way you could get MP was through LAN, so I'm counting it.

 

CoD - As far as I can remember, didn't have multiplayer when it came out.

 

Any game that came out pre-multiplayer and is still going.

 

Look, if you're gonna have a successful game nowadays, you're gonna need multiplayer (Excluding the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series, since multiplayer in those games are just improbable. And even then, ESO!)

 

That being said, R* hasn't exactly gotten into the groove of their own MP experience yet. You can definitely tell they've never done anything like this before by how broken it is.

 

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and give them some more time to fix it, because MP is hella fun when with friends, and sometimes more fun when RPing by yourself.

 

50/50 for me.

Are you implying COD and Halo got popular from Single Player?

If so then please quit gaming.

 

COD got its spike with MW2 which was focus more online than offline.

 

Halo got its spike with Halo 3 which was focus more online than offline.

 

People knew those two games cause of the online.

 

GTA got its spike with GTA III which was a Single Player only game. VC and SA even passed it up with NO online.

 

You always find a reason to defend Rockstar. Why?

Actually, Im pretty sure Halo got popular because of Combat Evolved, which was a revolutionary game for it's time, so naturally everyone started talking about which provoked Bungie to make Halo 2, which was very hyped.

 

Also, I'm not a big fan of COD but I don't think they would of gotten to a 5th game if the previous ones werent successful.

 

No, Call of Duty was nothing without its online. There is no way Call of Duty would be half as big without its online. Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare is what changed Call of Duty forever. Then came MW2 which broke GTA IV record. Sure it had a Single Player but a linear FPS so it was no where as good as its online.

 

Even with Halo, Halo was famous for being a GOOD FPS game on console. There were a few that were at the time. The online is what made Halo what it is today. Lots of people bought a 360 just for Halo alone.

 

Grand Theft Auto is different. Sure it had online with the 2D ones but the online did sh*t to help it grow. The Single Player in GTA III is what made GTA into what it is today.

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Honestly Halo CE is one of the few games that defined the FPS genre. Why? Because of the campaign, graphics, offline multiplayer, etc. And that isn't even opinion-based. That's an opinion that most of the gaming community can agree with. Even though Halo 2 had online, people still played it for the campaign and offline-multiplayer. When Halo 3 came out, people were like "Wow, this multiplayer is great!" but it didn't make a mark on the series as much as the previous features on the previous games.

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Single player is better because that how I used to always play it and I can't change my opinion because I base all my opinions on past experiences, as if I shouldn't even try to expand the way I play games.

MP is hell of a lot more fun if you have friends, it seems like OP has none.

 

I'm sure that Multiplayer is more fun if you play organized matches. But that would not do for me anyway. I don't like the concept of multiplayer in GTA. I bought GTA V for singleplayer because that's what I enjoy over everything else.

 

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Firstly, Online is a separate game and hence called as "GTA O". Not just a multiplayer as seen in previous titles therefore it will evolve completely in it's own route as envisioned by the Developers.

Even, Rockstar understands the significance about Single-Player but they also see the future of GTA online for new and upcoming Players who are already playing many other multiplayer titles.

Eg: COD, BF4, etc basically shooters and rpg titles.

 

With GTA coming in the world of online (and expected to offer much better experience) Rockstar will eventually reach to a lot more players, joining the GTA series in multiplayer.

 

Single-Player is definitely going to stay but Online also making an influence on those interested.

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Single player is better because that how I used to always play it and I can't change my opinion because I base all my opinions on past experiences, as if I shouldn't even try to expand the way I play games.

MP is hell of a lot more fun if you have friends, it seems like OP has none.

I'm sure that Multiplayer is more fun if you play organized matches. But that would not do for me anyway. I don't like the concept of multiplayer in GTA. I bought GTA V for singleplayer because that's what I enjoy over everything else.

 

*quote shortened, not altered*

Firstly, Online is a separate game and hence called as "GTA O". Not just a multiplayer as seen in previous titles therefore it will evolve completely in it's own route as envisioned by the Developers.

Even, Rockstar understands the significance about Single-Player but they also see the future of GTA online for new and upcoming Players who are already playing many other multiplayer titles.

Eg: COD, BF4, etc basically shooters and rpg titles.

 

With GTA coming in the world of online (and expected to offer much better experience) Rockstar will eventually reach to a lot more players, joining the GTA series in multiplayer.

 

Single-Player is definitely going to stay but Online also making an influence on those interested.

 

 

This is sort of the problem.

 

The casual's from CoD. These people ruin almost every game out there. Casual gamers is a true virus that stinks. I would not be surprised if the GTA franchise starts to get diluted and become another crapy, repetetive, surface, accessible game for kids.

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Geralt of Rivia

 

To all the people saying: "SP got GTA where it is today!"

 

Well...no sh*t. Any game before the MP times got that franchise where it is today.

 

Halo - it is a stretch, but the only way you could get MP was through LAN, so I'm counting it.

 

CoD - As far as I can remember, didn't have multiplayer when it came out.

 

Any game that came out pre-multiplayer and is still going.

 

Look, if you're gonna have a successful game nowadays, you're gonna need multiplayer (Excluding the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series, since multiplayer in those games are just improbable. And even then, ESO!)

 

That being said, R* hasn't exactly gotten into the groove of their own MP experience yet. You can definitely tell they've never done anything like this before by how broken it is.

 

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, though, and give them some more time to fix it, because MP is hella fun when with friends, and sometimes more fun when RPing by yourself.

 

50/50 for me.

Are you implying COD and Halo got popular from Single Player?

 

If so then please quit gaming.

 

COD got its spike with MW2 which was focus more online than offline.

 

Halo got its spike with Halo 3 which was focus more online than offline.

 

People knew those two games cause of the online.

 

GTA got its spike with GTA III which was a Single Player only game. VC and SA even passed it up with NO online.

 

You always find a reason to defend Rockstar. Why?

 

Yes.

 

CoD got popular from CoD 2, which had an amazing single player. It also had multiplayer, but no one played it and it was pure garbage.

 

It's true that CoD peaked at CoD 4, but it wouldn't have gotten that far if it wasn't popular already.

 

Also, Halo got popular from the first one. It was one of the most hyped and popular games coming out, and it delivered.

 

And then there's Halo 2, which was even more popular.

 

Why do you try to find every excuse to tell people they defend R*, then fail at it?

 

Oh wait, gotta respond to your other comment, too!

 

"No, Call of Duty was nothing without its online. There is no way Call of Duty would be half as big without its online. Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare is what changed Call of Duty forever. Then came MW2 which broke GTA IV record. Sure it had a Single Player but a linear FPS so it was no where as good as its online.

 

Even with Halo, Halo was famous for being a GOOD FPS game on console. There were a few that were at the time. The online is what made Halo what it is today. Lots of people bought a 360 just for Halo alone.

 

Grand Theft Auto is different. Sure it had online with the 2D ones but the online did sh*t to help it grow. The Single Player in GTA III is what made GTA into what it is today. "

 

Like I said, Call of Duty got popular with CoD 2. There wouldn't have been a CoD 4 for the game to peak at if the series was never popular, which you just seem to not understand.

 

Halo was famous for being an amazing looking game that was gonna be on Mac and PC, which was a "Holy sh*t!" kind of thing back then. Then Microsoft bought Bungie, completely changed the game, and made it an Xbox exclusive. It was very popular, and then it was ported to PC, where it was even more popular.

 

Many people did buy a 360 for Halo 3. Halo 3. Why did people buy a console just for Halo? Because Halo was already massively f*cking popular.

 

So...yeah.

 

Seriously...don't talk to me about gaming, then get almost all of it wrong.

 

RyanBurnsRed: The Witcher 2, Infamous, Just Cause 2, Mafia 2, and Deus Ex HR

 

True about the Witcher 2, but it's also a RPG, like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout, so I don't really count it, because multiplayer with those kinds of games are mostly improbable (Although I've never really played it much, and it's been a while, so if I'm wrong, please correct me).

 

The new Infamous is gonna have a multiplayer mode: http://n4g.com/news/1278725/infamous-second-son-has-multiplayer <---This exactly proves my point. (If it turns out to be true)

 

Just Cause 2 now has a multiplayer mode. Yes, I know it is a mod, but it was backed by Avalanche, and we can assume that Just Cause 3 will have multiplayer (Speculation). Also, Just Cause 2's multiplayer has gained the game a lot of popularity.

 

Correct about Mafia 2 and correct about Deus Ex.

 

PkUnzipper:

 

You definitely have a right to be afraid, but we should still give them time. If it's like June, and little has been fixed/done, then we should worry and write GTA: Online off as a failure.

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

You really think that?

 

I thought Halo 3 was absolutely fantastic, I thought Halo 4 was great, and I like what they did with multiplayer, even though it was more like CoD. It had the perfect mix of old Halo and new Halo to me.

 

And how can you even talk about Halo 5 yet? Literally the only thing we have is a teaser and one thing of concept art.

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I don't know what it is about multiplayer games but they've never appealed to me. I never play them more than five minutes before they start to get boring to me, and sometimes I don't even bother trying them. It all just feels very repetitive to me. All multiplayer games I've played pretty much just consist of shooting other people for ten minutes and whoever has the highest score at the end wins. I've never seen the point of them.

 

Half the time they just feel tacked on as a way to extend the game's lifespan so that people don't trade the game in as soon as they finish it, like The Last of Us for example.

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I'm trying hard to have a good time at multiplayer, but freaking long loading times, sh*tty missions and abnormal players don't really make it.

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

 

Halo 3 was the sh*t. SP was way too short but I enjoyed it. And the multi player? Aww man good times.

 

Halo 4? You're spot on. They screwed the sh*t out of it and that's why its activity is on par with Reach.(which wasn't bad)

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

 

You really think that?

 

I thought Halo 3 was absolutely fantastic, I thought Halo 4 was great, and I like what they did with multiplayer, even though it was more like CoD. It had the perfect mix of old Halo and new Halo to me.

Only reason the H4 disk found its way in my tray was because of the custom game community I was a part of. The rest of the game was just an embarrassment.

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

Sorry bro. All the Halo's are great (maybe not Halo Wars and ODST). Halo sh*ts all over every other FPS franchise like no other.

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I think R* should discontinue its online gaming services. Enough said.

But if they do that then the people who enjoy Online will riot. I think that the best solution is to make the multiplayer simple like IV's and not too complex.

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

You really think that?

 

I thought Halo 3 was absolutely fantastic, I thought Halo 4 was great, and I like what they did with multiplayer, even though it was more like CoD. It had the perfect mix of old Halo and new Halo to me.

Only reason the H4 disk found its way in my tray was because of the custom game community I was a part of. The rest of the game was just an embarrassment.

 

 

And that's your opinion, and that's fine. I thought it was a great game.

 

Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

Sorry bro. All the Halo's are great (maybe not Halo Wars and ODST). Halo sh*ts all over every other FPS franchise like no other.

 

I loved Halo Wars and ODST lol.

 

They were both so different and new in the franchise (Even though they weren't technically part of the franchise. At least Halo Wars wasn't).

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I think R* should discontinue its online gaming services. Enough said.

But if they do that then the people who enjoy Online will riot. I think that the best solution is to make the multiplayer simple like IV's and not too complex.

 

You got it, get rid of the money ,buying apartments the stock market ,all this should be in SP get back to the weapon pickups and just plain fun of IV.

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

You really think that?

 

I thought Halo 3 was absolutely fantastic, I thought Halo 4 was great, and I like what they did with multiplayer, even though it was more like CoD. It had the perfect mix of old Halo and new Halo to me.

Only reason the H4 disk found its way in my tray was because of the custom game community I was a part of. The rest of the game was just an embarrassment.

 

 

And that's your opinion, and that's fine. I thought it was a great game.

 

Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

Sorry bro. All the Halo's are great (maybe not Halo Wars and ODST). Halo sh*ts all over every other FPS franchise like no other.

 

I loved Halo Wars and ODST lol.

 

They were both so different and new in the franchise (Even though they weren't technically part of the franchise. At least Halo Wars wasn't).

 

Umm sorry for double posting, but how did the subject change from V's multiplayer to Halo?

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Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

You really think that?

 

I thought Halo 3 was absolutely fantastic, I thought Halo 4 was great, and I like what they did with multiplayer, even though it was more like CoD. It had the perfect mix of old Halo and new Halo to me.

Only reason the H4 disk found its way in my tray was because of the custom game community I was a part of. The rest of the game was just an embarrassment.

 

 

And that's your opinion, and that's fine. I thought it was a great game.

 

Yeah well, Halo 3, 4, and soon to be 5 are all rubbish and milked franchises. It isn't good anymore. It's as rubbish as COD. Halo 1 was fantastic and 2 was good as well.

Sorry bro. All the Halo's are great (maybe not Halo Wars and ODST). Halo sh*ts all over every other FPS franchise like no other.

 

I loved Halo Wars and ODST lol.

 

They were both so different and new in the franchise (Even though they weren't technically part of the franchise. At least Halo Wars wasn't).

 

Umm sorry for double posting, but how did the subject change from V's multiplayer to Halo?

 

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