ZZCOOL Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) deformation Edited January 12, 2014 by ZZCOOL Rockstar Games™ 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatoku Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Credit doesn't matter when someone else is making money for it. People upload the mods for free on the internet. If they don't want others to make videos off of it and possibily make some money then they shouldn't upload it for free. Simple. You're a modder, are you telling me that you wouldn't be upset if you worked hard on a mod and then someone else made money off of it? We actually approached zzcool to make videos from GTAIV: San Andreas. That mod was purely done by enthusiasm by us. If he used advertisements on the videos to make money off of it, that's entirely his choice. And that was your choice. Go ask the creator of Iron Man IV and see how he feels. oh yeah that mess it's what killed my channel the mod was months old and once i had made a video of it it wen't viral the author was very happy about this the recognitiion he got i even linked to his facebook page he never once asked me to add more links he even rebooted the entire project after it wen't viral across news sites he was so happy about it posting on facebook every single news article saying "kotaku featured my mod" knowing it was because of me it happened yet he yelled me out for stealing his views and i did offer him money that pissed him off so many people made a video of that mod HUGE youtubers made a video of that mod did he care about them? no only me look at officerspeirs and the millions of monetized views he got on that iron man mod profit is not the reason i am doing this i care about being special to mean something to people you have no idea how much money i have lost to make people feel fairly treated i offered wapeddell too as he tried to get me to take down my latrest iron man mod video that contained ripped sound from the iron man game i did not know this and he told me he owned the sound i had no choice but to audioswap the video i begged him and he laughed in my face he started asking me to buy him a freaking gtx titan so yeah 2013 was my own personal hell some may think i deserved it but i never meant to do anything bad to anyone and i did what i could to make everyone feel fairly treated as for this mod it will soon be finishedWow you sound like the nicest person ever I'm not kidding I hate how people try to take advantage of nice people a GTX Titan. Really??? That guy must be a real greedy heartless prick. People like that need to go f*ck themselves... Edited January 12, 2014 by Xatoku Rockstar Games™ 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBurnsRed Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 something v can't do Technically it can. It's just that vehicles in V have more health it seems like. So it takes longer for them to get as banged up like in IV Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZCOOL Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) something v can't do Technically it can. It's just that vehicles in V have more health it seems like. So it takes longer for them to get as banged up like in IV as far as i kno they can't get this banged up but yes they are tanks but in the end they do deform but this much? Credit doesn't matter when someone else is making money for it. People upload the mods for free on the internet. If they don't want others to make videos off of it and possibily make some money then they shouldn't upload it for free. Simple. You're a modder, are you telling me that you wouldn't be upset if you worked hard on a mod and then someone else made money off of it? We actually approached zzcool to make videos from GTAIV: San Andreas. That mod was purely done by enthusiasm by us. If he used advertisements on the videos to make money off of it, that's entirely his choice. And that was your choice. Go ask the creator of Iron Man IV and see how he feels. oh yeah that mess it's what killed my channel the mod was months old and once i had made a video of it it wen't viral the author was very happy about this the recognitiion he got i even linked to his facebook page he never once asked me to add more links he even rebooted the entire project after it wen't viral across news sites he was so happy about it posting on facebook every single news article saying "kotaku featured my mod" knowing it was because of me it happened yet he yelled me out for stealing his views and i did offer him money that pissed him off so many people made a video of that mod HUGE youtubers made a video of that mod did he care about them? no only me look at officerspeirs and the millions of monetized views he got on that iron man mod profit is not the reason i am doing this i care about being special to mean something to people you have no idea how much money i have lost to make people feel fairly treated i offered wapeddell too as he tried to get me to take down my latrest iron man mod video that contained ripped sound from the iron man game i did not know this and he told me he owned the sound i had no choice but to audioswap the video i begged him and he laughed in my face he started asking me to buy him a freaking gtx titan so yeah 2013 was my own personal hell some may think i deserved it but i never meant to do anything bad to anyone and i did what i could to make everyone feel fairly treated as for this mod it will soon be finishedWow you sound like the nicest person ever I'm not kidding I hate how people try to take advantage of nice people a GTX Titan. Really??? That guy must be a real greedy heartless prick. People like that need to go f*ck themselves... it always makes me happy to read things like this thankyou so much Edited January 12, 2014 by ZZCOOL Rockstar Games™ 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Games™ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Credit doesn't matter when someone else is making money for it. People upload the mods for free on the internet. If they don't want others to make videos off of it and possibily make some money then they shouldn't upload it for free. Simple. You're a modder, are you telling me that you wouldn't be upset if you worked hard on a mod and then someone else made money off of it? We actually approached zzcool to make videos from GTAIV: San Andreas. That mod was purely done by enthusiasm by us. If he used advertisements on the videos to make money off of it, that's entirely his choice. And that was your choice. Go ask the creator of Iron Man IV and see how he feels. oh yeah that mess it's what killed my channel the mod was months old and once i had made a video of it it wen't viral the author was very happy about this the recognitiion he got i even linked to his facebook page he never once asked me to add more links he even rebooted the entire project after it wen't viral across news sites he was so happy about it posting on facebook every single news article saying "kotaku featured my mod" knowing it was because of me it happened yet he yelled me out for stealing his views and i did offer him money that pissed him off so many people made a video of that mod HUGE youtubers made a video of that mod did he care about them? no only me look at officerspeirs and the millions of monetized views he got on that iron man mod profit is not the reason i am doing this i care about being special to mean something to people you have no idea how much money i have lost to make people feel fairly treated i offered wapeddell too as he tried to get me to take down my latrest iron man mod video that contained ripped sound from the iron man game i did not know this and he told me he owned the sound i had no choice but to audioswap the video i begged him and he laughed in my face he started asking me to buy him a freaking gtx titan so yeah 2013 was my own personal hell some may think i deserved it but i never meant to do anything bad to anyone and i did what i could to make everyone feel fairly treated as for this mod it will soon be finishedWow you sound like the nicest person ever I'm not kidding I hate how people try to take advantage of nice people a GTX Titan. Really??? That guy must be a real greedy heartless prick. People like that need to go f*ck themselves... Agreed. Good luck with this project Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatoku Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 PM me. If your a programmer and really tech savvy and have a modded xbox (Or can affod one) I can tell you a way to get you a sh*tload of youtube subscribers and views. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_BlackScout Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 f*ck off with this quote wall, reduce them in some way, that's horrible to see. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm still curious about the map limits. Someone asked about it earlier but was answered with "Have faith" - what the f*ck? So really, did you somehow edit the .exe or something? How would you go about editing the map limits, and how did you? I know IV: SA had this problem too since LS, SF, and LV are larger than IV - so how did that team get around the map limit? Memhacking does wonders. Well apparently it doesn't, because after looking through the thread Ash explains that the video was edited to make it look like the full map was available. You have to be kidding me. It's common knowledge that the whole map can't fit into IV. It's a matter of memhacking, and that as whole can be tedious and quite difficult. Watch your attitude if you don't know what you're talking about. Calm down, I had no attitude. I was just asking a question, and after searching for "limit" in the thread I found Ash's post explaining the video was cut before OP reached Mount Chiliad. Well apparently it doesn't, because after looking through the thread Ash explains that the video was edited to make it look like the full map was available. i am shocked the entire map does fit in gta 4 how? Either scaled or crazy offsets from the origin point were used, the latter will cause lovely performance issues due to off-screen drawing. yeah it is scaled it is much smaller than the one in gta 5 but it still is impressive Alright, thank you. So the map is scaled down, along with the player, peds, vehicles etc. so make everything appear the right size but stay within the limits? Wouldn't that cause problems with projectiles, particles, the sun etc? I have a quote with OP explaining the map is scaled, and NGClan is saying it's "common knowledge that the map can't fit in IV" and suggests memhacking. So which is it? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatoku Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 f*ck off with this quote wall, reduce them in some way, that's horrible to see.sorry. I'm on my phone and its an LG-E400b and its not the greatest touchscreen. My apologies BS_BlackScout 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBurnsRed Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Albert in the original PC thread showed that they can be deformed like in IV. It just takes more effort to do it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theNGclan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have a quote with OP explaining the map is scaled, and NGClan is saying it's "common knowledge that the map can't fit in IV" and suggests memhacking. So which is it? The map can be scaled down to fit IV's limits. If they want to have the whole map and have it unscaled, they need to hack the limits. It's not that hard to comprehend. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBurnsRed Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well apparently it doesn't, because after looking through the thread Ash explains that the video was edited to make it look like the full map was available. i am shocked the entire map does fit in gta 4 how? Either scaled or crazy offsets from the origin point were used, the latter will cause lovely performance issues due to off-screen drawing. yeah it is scaled it is much smaller than the one in gta 5 but it still is impressiveAlright, thank you. So the map is scaled down, along with the player, peds, vehicles etc. so make everything appear the right size but stay within the limits? Wouldn't that cause problems with projectiles, particles, the sun etc? I have a quote with OP explaining the map is scaled, and NGClan is saying it's "common knowledge that the map can't fit in IV" and suggests memhacking. So which is it? I'll take NTAuthority's word over anyone's because he's a legend that really knows his stuff. And also zzcool because this is his project. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatoku Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 PM me. If your a programmer and really tech savvy and have a modded xbox (Or can affod one) I can tell you a way to get you a sh*tload of youtube subscribers and views.You know what ill just tell you here... What you gotta do is get a modded a RGH Xbox 360 and host Call of Duty Modded Lobbies. Then as a requirement they have to subscribe. You could also host an XBLStealth server for your subscribers but that's a hell of a lot of work... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have a quote with OP explaining the map is scaled, and NGClan is saying it's "common knowledge that the map can't fit in IV" and suggests memhacking. So which is it? The map can be scaled down to fit IV's limits. If they want to have the whole map and have it unscaled, they need to hack the limits. It's not that hard to comprehend. So there's two ways of doing it, and OP is scaling it down from the original size. Okay. No need to be so passive aggressive. Excuse me if I have no experience in modding IV and it's map, and ask a couple of questions. God damn, man. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZCOOL Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have a quote with OP explaining the map is scaled, and NGClan is saying it's "common knowledge that the map can't fit in IV" and suggests memhacking. So which is it? The map can be scaled down to fit IV's limits. If they want to have the whole map and have it unscaled, they need to hack the limits. It's not that hard to comprehend. So there's two ways of doing it, and OP is scaling it down from the original size. Okay. No need to be so passive aggressive. Excuse me if I have no experience in modding IV and it's map, and ask a couple of questions. God damn, man. size is original but the entire map is not converted only the hills area including the vinewood hill it is a big part but not all of los santos Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatoku Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You should do the map so if you shoot an RPG somewhere the building has a hole... lol that would be sick. Or a bunch of passages under the city........ that would be so f*ckin amazing... (I'm kinda obsessive when it comes to caves in a video game) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 size is original but the entire map is not converted only the hills area including the vinewood hill it is a big part but not all of los santos Oh okay. When I read "scaled" I thought it meant it was literally scaled, like everything was half the size, so it would only take up a bit of space inside the limits. So it just cuts off near Vinewood Hills? Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lydianduck Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Oh, so it's not the complete map then? That's kinda dissapointing.... I was looking forward to it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theNGclan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Oh, so it's not the complete map then? That's kinda dissapointing.... I was looking forward to it. Not yet. If the limits are hacked we can get the full map. Don't be disappointed. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I thought that would cause performance issues? Is there some trick you can do to get around off-screen drawing? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theNGclan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I thought that would cause performance issues? Is there some trick you can do to get around off-screen drawing? It depends on your hardware (and your settings). It'll take some work to make IV will be compliant with the little tweaks. It shouldn't be too much work, but it'll be tedious none-the-less. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lydianduck Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 @theNGclan: Are you involved in the creation of this project by any chance? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theNGclan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 @theNGclan: Are you involved in the creation of this project by any chance? No. I'm working on other things. I'm just trying to clear up questions for people. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quechus13 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 This is a nice project but like the NGClan says it has to be done by adjusting the limits..Like in the old SA days where you had to adjust the memory. Though honestly the textures look completely different with the updated engine the way they are rendered is just beautiful. theNGclan 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raavi Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Lets not flog dead horses, shall we? The Whole North Yankton code fiasco is in the past, let it rest. Now, please get back on-topic and stay on-topic. Thanks. Edited January 12, 2014 by Raavi theNGclan 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064500966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Games™ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You should do the map so if you shoot an RPG somewhere the building has a hole... lol that would be sick. Or a bunch of passages under the city........ that would be so f*ckin amazing... (I'm kinda obsessive when it comes to caves in a video game) Thats impossible and would take years, and the models are solids so........................... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064501140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBurnsRed Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You should do the map so if you shoot an RPG somewhere the building has a hole... lol that would be sick. Or a bunch of passages under the city........ that would be so f*ckin amazing... (I'm kinda obsessive when it comes to caves in a video game) Thats impossible and would take years, and the models are solids so...........................Does RAGE even support that? Sounds like you'd need CryEngine or Frostbite to do that Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064501251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatoku Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You should do the map so if you shoot an RPG somewhere the building has a hole... lol that would be sick. Or a bunch of passages under the city........ that would be so f*ckin amazing... (I'm kinda obsessive when it comes to caves in a video game) Thats impossible and would take years, and the models are solids so...........................Does RAGE even support that?Sounds like you'd need CryEngine or Frostbite to do thatI think it supports it. In IV you can destroy the pillars in the big house from the final mission. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064501358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You should do the map so if you shoot an RPG somewhere the building has a hole... lol that would be sick. Or a bunch of passages under the city........ that would be so f*ckin amazing... (I'm kinda obsessive when it comes to caves in a video game) Thats impossible and would take years, and the models are solids so........................... Does RAGE even support that? Sounds like you'd need CryEngine or Frostbite to do that It does, there are a few spots and missions in IV and V that are destructible. But small. Buildings would take a hell of a lot of work Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064501434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLightsBlueNights Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You should do the map so if you shoot an RPG somewhere the building has a hole... lol that would be sick. Or a bunch of passages under the city........ that would be so f*ckin amazing... (I'm kinda obsessive when it comes to caves in a video game) Thats impossible and would take years, and the models are solids so........................... Does RAGE even support that? Sounds like you'd need CryEngine or Frostbite to do that Or Geo-Mod 2, but who knows who owns Red Faction or if Volition still owns the engine now? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/672708-gta-5-converted-to-iv/page/10/#findComment-1064501454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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