About Kids Playing This Game

[don ovdi' island]

 

 

Mental abuse? LOL.. what a croc of chit. the crap that some people come up with is beyond me. Yes, because shielding a child from every and any type of adult situation until they're 18 is totally what you should do and has no negative side affects what-so-ever.

(Wannh, that's not what i said! - that's what you're implying, sir.)

 

You take this to the extremes. Did i say shield the kid from everything? No.

But if you think it's ok to let a child witness and participate in things meant for adults, you probably also believe kids should watch pornography and enter night clubs/bars as well.

Hell, talk profanity and f*ck your spouse in front of them. f*ck it, let 'em have a turn. Because why should we try to keep age-restricted acts and content? f*ck that, right?

 

​Lmaoo.. i can't help but laugh at this. Just because of absurd it is. "Since i'd let my son play a video game a little outside of his age group, i should let him f*ck his own mother"

 

 

I guess we should just forget about the stuff that's on the news, on the radio, and the fact that they hear and probably see much worse from other children than any video game in SCHOOL (bitch all you want, it's true)

 

Typical teenage response. "Everyone else does it..."

The child isn't the world's responsibility; it's the their parents'.

If they see or hear worse (which, first of all would imply they're being raised in a pretty sh*tty setting) in the outside world, why should their home not be a fortress from those things... again, you seem to want children to be exposed to these things. Why? because it's cool? What invisible crowd are you trying to impress?

 

When did i say "everyone else does it"? Never. re-read and try again. My point was simply making it that you can't shield children from every little drip of bad.. and when you do, most of the time they end up revolting. And just because they'd see or hear worse, doesn't mean they are living in a chitty setting [and even if they were, it may be a poverty issue, which, is a whole different issue in itself.] kids will be kids. i can't tell you the things i saw and heard in school, i mean from grade 2 to graduation,i'd probably get banned if i did. And no friend, just no. I could give a chit's less about being cool or whatever crowd agrees or disagrees with me. If you'd read what i said, i have no problem with a parent NOT allowing a child to play the game. I have a problem with people who say that parents who let their children play a game with adult content are horrible parents.

 

 

People need to stop with all this "they dont know right from wrong" chit. If they dont know right from wrong, then it's YOUR fault, as the parent.

And I suppose buying them media like GTA V will only help, right?

 

Well, i'm not going to say it would help... and i'm not going to say it couldn't hurt, but it's not the worst thing in the world.

 

They can learn this at any age. the younger, the better. while their brains may not be fully developed, they still understand the concept of Action ~ Consequence.

And yet these games all instill the idea that actions have no consequences...How do the 3 protagonists end up in the conclusion of the game?

(inb4 "I played this game at x age and I didn't want to kill people or rob stores IRL!" Congratulations! you're clinically sane and possess basic reasoning)

Justifying the exposure of young minds to a medium that glorifies violence...you might as well justify kids listening watching media that glorify the objectification and demeaning of women.

 

First off - I'm not trying to justify children playing the game. that's not my argument. my argument is that the claim that parents who let their children play the game are automatically horrible parents, No if's, and's, or but's, and i feel like thats absurd. Again, if they understand the real life concept or action ~ consequence; and they can understand that a game is just a game, and nothing more, then the should grasp the fact that everything in the game is not real.

 

OK let me ask you this: if a parent never ever lets their child play an M rated game, until legal age, has a strict curfew, makes the child study, feeds them good food, but from that young age instills in them forms of bigotry, such as racism, and sexism, hatred for people of other colors, gender, or religions, does that make them a good parent? Hell no, right?!

 

But people, i mean dumbasses, are pleading that parents who let their child play the game are horrible parents dont matter what. even if they teach them good core values, [the value of hard work, the value of money, the value of trust, right from wrong, integrity, honesty, tolerance, respect, etc] feeds them food, works all day to provide a better living for said child, gives up all of their free time, and money to make sure the child has food in it's stomach and clothes to wear, and an education so they have a future. if a parent does ALL that, but lets them play a M rated game for a little while, that makes them a bad parent? Seriously? Get the fuxk out of here ! It's the dumbest thing i've ever heard on this forum, and that's saying A LOT. Some of you MF's dont know what a "bad" parent is, for sure.

 

If they dont, it's not the game's fault you're a bad parent.

Thanks for proving my point, which is why they shouldn't be near it at all. The game was not meant for them.

 

but how is that your point? if you're letting a game teach your children values, you're a bad parent. If you teach your child values, but let them play a game, that doesn't make you a bad parent.

 

You're not an adult at 18 if you still act and live like a child. They're the same type of people that think that age = maturity, which, heh heh… is NOT the case, at all, EVER.

I agree with this.

You're not an adult until you're fully financially independent & responsible...

but this isn't about maturity. this is about young minds who shouldn't be exposed to certain things, no matter how "mature" (god I hate that word) they think they are.

Can maturity land you inside a bar if you're < 21? Lol nope.

 

Of course maturity can't get you in a bar if you're under 21, but a set of boobs can.

 

Only reason kids still fight to play M rated games is because the world still believes games are children's things. You've never seen kids fighting to get inside a whore house.

 

I expected better from you Xyn.. I expected better.

 

lol. We don't have 100% similar opinions...oh noes.

 

Its not because we have different opinions; its because you said that letting a child play a game is mental abuse and neglect. i think that's a crazy statement.

 

 

Edited January 16, 2015 by dreadluxx

[serpentofIight]

FACT: all mature rated games are played by children.

Edited January 16, 2015 by serpentofIight

[virmonk]

I shouldn't have posted that very dumb post in the first place, Well explained to a dumb person like me.

@MartyTheGamer Sorry for Bashing.

 

Gotta admit i played GTA 3 when i was younger than the game rating but back then most sexual Parts of the game are ether Sexual reference name or Hooker's (with nothing other in sitting in a car and the health goes up).

 

You are have integrity and guts to be able to man up in front of others. I have a lot of respect for that. Just try not to call yourself dumb, we all have different opinions and sometimes they change. You also apologized to the youngling so you seem like a good person.

Edited January 16, 2015 by virmonk

[IamCourtney]

Playing GTAO with kids owns and is fun, don't think I'm gonna read 20 pages debating whether or not this is true.

[lessthan3]

FACT: all mature rated games are played by children.

FACT: People steal as well, doesn't change the illegality of it. Just because the system for preventing it is imperfect doesn't mean we have to tolerate kids in our 18+/mature rated games.

They are literally breaking the law by playing these games. Get rid of them.

[~TKP~]

20 pages and still ongoing. /thread mods. We know who plays, we know who has a issue with it, we know who bitches about it and we know who doesnt give a fuk by this stage. Like really what else has this topic gotta give ffs?

[GR Choke]

I have started to talk to other people since heists have dropped

 

Every party i joined i was talking to people that were all under 18 and the youngest was 9 what the f*ck

 

I now see what you alot are going on about

[Niko the awesome]

Popular games are plagued with 9 year olds, just ignore them.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Niko the awesome

[rivaldobox]

I don't mind kids playing GTA, but they shouldn't be playing the online. I played GTA 3 when I was 11 and now I'm a normal human being (kinda), but back then I was a spoiled brat who didn't know any better, so I kind of ruined the game experience being bad and totally clueless about obvious things. But I ruined it only for me, because there was only me playing it.

 

So my view on the subject is this:

 

Kids playing Story Mode? Go nuts.

Kids playing Online? Don't do it.

[CrazyRay]

I don't censor myself for children, THEY are the ones who aren't supposed to be there...just like in real life when some jackass has their kids with them in a bar after 9:00pm

 

 

FACT: all mature rated games are played by children.

FACT: People steal as well, doesn't change the illegality of it. Just because the system for preventing it is imperfect doesn't mean we have to tolerate kids in our 18+/mature rated games.

They are literally breaking the law by playing these games. Get rid of them.

How it usually goes...

 

Kid: Mommy, Mommy, buy me this!!! I want it now!!!!!!

Mommy: Ok, my little bastard angel

Mommy buys game

Kid plays game

Mommy walks in one day and sees what's going on

Mommy is offended by the game that SHE bought

Mommy calls Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore to get the game banned

[CaptainMental]

I just approach them in a verbal sexual way, asking them what they are wearing, that they have a cute voice, if their parents are home and if they have started masturbating.

 

That usually makes them leave the lobby or at least become totally silent.

[redfirebird87]

I just approach them in a verbal sexual way, asking them what they are wearing, that they have a cute voice, if their parents are home and if they have started masturbating.

 

That usually makes them leave the lobby or at least become totally silent.

 

Odd.. that's when I get friend requests..

[_PANiC_]

Just ask those kids if there mom or dad is around and put then on the mic, then give them a lecture about allowing their underage children play violent and r rated videos games. They will appreciate it and thank you wholeheartedly.

Or just sing the "C*nty c*nt , c*nt, c*nt, my mom is a c*nt" song down the mic very VERY loud so their moron parents can hear it or until little Jonny repeats it...

[Collekt]

Just ask those kids if there mom or dad is around and put then on the mic, then give them a lecture about allowing their underage children play violent and r rated videos games. They will appreciate it and thank you wholeheartedly.

Or just sing the "C*nty c*nt , c*nt, c*nt, my mom is a c*nt" song down the mic very VERY loud so their moron parents can hear it or until little Jonny repeats it...

Yea I'm sure the immature little kid screaming racist comments into the mic will be more than happy to hand over the mic to his mom and let you get him in trouble.

[theGypsy]

Just ask those kids if there mom or dad is around and put then on the mic, then give them a lecture about allowing their underage children play violent and r rated videos games. They will appreciate it and thank you wholeheartedly.

Or just sing the "C*nty c*nt , c*nt, c*nt, my mom is a c*nt" song down the mic very VERY loud so their moron parents can hear it or until little Jonny repeats it...

 

Feel free to give me a lecture later on when we get on m8.... ROFL. But seriously, there's a sh*t ton of violence, sex... etc... on the Tele and in music these days. I for one prefer to educate my kids and participate in life with em. As ya know Danny, my wife, (12yr old) son and daughter (14) all play GTA with me.

 

That being said, my kids are respectful and don't act like idiots when online... hell, they don't even swear IRL. The game doesn't affect who they are... it's their environment. Which I try to provide a stable one...

 

And really, I come across far more so-called "adults" that act like idiots...

[TheNameless]

I don't let my son play the game, he's only 7 but even if he was 12 or 15 I still wouldn't let him play. In fact I only play when he is out of the house or asleep, and always turn it off if he comes home.

 

In the UK there are murmurs of laws to enable prosecution of parents who let their children play/watch games that they are not old enough for. Bit hard to enforce if you ask me but the murmur is there

[GTA Forums User99521]

^That wouldn't be, and shouldn't be accepted by an intelligent and independent person.It's up to the parent to decide what is suitable for their child,those ratings are guidelines(And shaky ones at that).That right should only be removed if there is genuine proof that what the parent is doing is damaging to the child.

[BarryRiley]

I was playing with 3 kids in a heist who were surely no more than 10. It felt a little weird. However I stopped caring when I realised they were amazing!

[acherasover]

Honeslty, I don't think you should be able to play the game if you are not old enough to buy it. The game is a satire on our current world, so most people under the age of hmm 17 probably wouldn't understand most of what the game is trying to accomplish through its story and anecdotes. The subtle nuances throughout the game are directly aimed at older audiences; the younger ones usually don't pick up on the little things - or even recognize the jokes when they see them.

 

Before I get slammed, I realize there are (as the OP appears to be) more mature kids out there. That having been said, it only takes a few bad apples. I cringe when I get into a lobby and all I hear is a bunch of young voices. Don't be fooled though, I usually cringe when I hear some testosterone pumped 19 year old talking sh*t and saying ni**a every other word.

 

This game was always intended to be played by adults. I sympathize with some of the younger crowd who does feel this discrimination undeservingly, but it is a game for adults. Don't be surprised when we are upset when it's invaded by our kids. I wouldn't have the discrimination I do towards the youngsters, if your actions weren't taking away from my experience. It's beyond an annoyance.

[CrazyRay]

...But seriously, there's a sh*t ton of violence, sex... etc... on the Tele and in music these days.

You're really going to use that overdone cliche of an excuse?

 

I for one prefer to educate my kids and participate in life with em. As ya know Danny, my wife, (12yr old) son and daughter (14) all play GTA with me.

So, do you explain to them why Trevor has "boo-boos" on his face and why it's funnier to get the $100 service followed by the $50 service from a hooker??

 

^That wouldn't be, and shouldn't be accepted by an intelligent and independent person.It's up to the parent to decide what is suitable for their child,those ratings are guidelines(And shaky ones at that).That right should only be removed if there is genuine proof that what the parent is doing is damaging to the child.

You mean like parents that get into sh*t for disciplining their children...why can't those parents decide that a spanking is suitable for their child??

 

Call C.P.S., it's child abuse

[FlexPiTo]

I'm 4 1/2 years old and I don't mind playing with kids.

[BigJoe_1]

Honestly I see this whole thing as a big load of sh*te.

 

The kids that act like total f*cktards are the ones that come from homes where the parents don't even teach them the basics of good manners and how to communicate with people, the kids that are always shouting the N word down the mic are the ones that are spoiled, normally come from well off families and genuinely believe that money grows on trees, because their parents are just not doing their job.

 

People in this thread saying that just because it's rated 18 that no one under that age should be playing are wrong simply because the examples that they've met in game are only that way because of their parents, it's the parents fault that their kid doesn't know that shouting "f*ck you", "N*gger" and other insults down the mic is wrong.

 

IMO kids should only be allowed to play these games if the parents discipline them and if they've been briefed on the following topics:

 

- Sex

- Manners

- Communication

 

 

If all kids were actually taught all these things by their parents then them playing any game that's rated above their age wouldn't be a problem simply because 1. We wouldn't be able to tell that they're kids because they wouldn't talk on mic and 2. Because their manners would be just like the rest of ours, good.

 

Take me for example I was playing GTA before I was 8 and I turned out ok. This was because my parents made sure that I had good manners and (to save a lot of space) that I wasn't an asshole. My parents taught me about sex and all that stuff when I was in P3 and P4 (3rd and 4th grade, years 3 and 4, they're all the same thing), that might seem a bit too young but it's really not, the time that it's okay to tell them is when you know that they're well mannered and actually mature and smart enough to get what you're saying to them. I don't know maybe I just matured super early or whatever but my parents started to tell me all about that stuff before I had even hit double digits and I didn't turn out to be an immature moron that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

 

It's not about how old the kid is, it's how mature and smart the kid is. I know this because, although most of them are infact mindless knobs, some of the kids I've met in online were actually well mannered and came accross as smart educated people and not idiots. This one time during a mission lobby a kid invited me to a party and the first thing he said to me was "I'm not like the rest", sure it was obvious that he was young since his voice hadn't broken yet but he wasn't being a total a**hole for no reason whatsoever, he was actually behaving like an adult would, he was behaving normally. Not one of his cars had dollar rims or chrome as a primary color, the only 'kid' trademark he had on his cars was white walls and he had them on a black tornado with rims that really suited the car and the white walls only complimented the car as a whole.

 

The way I look at it is that the kids that are immature are the ones that shouldn't be playing.

Edited April 16, 2015 by BigJoe_1

[kyennamo]

Big Joe is 100 percent correct. I'm 34 now but my parents never restricted what I played or watched as a kid. I saw terminator 2 in theatres opening day when I was 10.

 

But I was educated. We were pretty poor but my mom was very strict with my learning. I was taught about sex and the evils of this world at a very young age. I knew the difference between tv/games and reality.

[Chamber53DV]

Hello guys, I don't really see what's all the child discrimination is about, but I've been heavily insulted for being underaged, and I really think games should not be rated on age, it should be rated on maturity. I am almost 13, but I'm mentally mature enough to play and understand this game. The kids you hear screaming "ni**er" and other popular insults that sound like they are 7 are obviously not mature and should not be playing this game. Hope this topic doesn't get deleted but what do you guys think about kids on this game?

When it comes to kids playing M rated games, I have more issues with kids playing and communicating online when it involves competitive gaming. While you may consider yourself as mature enough, I assure the majority of young kids aren't. Some parents fail to understand how preverse online chat is when it comes to these games.

 

You mention that maturity over age should be the determining factor of the "rating" system? You fail to realize the issue. The rating system isn't working due to parents failing their child by exposing them to these environments.

 

What makes you think a parent will not allow them to play because the label on a game says player needs to at Maturity Level "XYZ" as opposed to one of age?

 

Think smarter boy, as opposed to your false image of your own maturity and/or wants.

[kyennamo]

The rating system isn't in place to prevent kids from playing these games. It's in place to keep them from buying the game. It's the parents choice. Just like a 10 year old can go into a rated R movie as long as it is with an adult, a 10 year old can play any game his parents allow him to

 

That being said, the game itself isn't the issue. The issue is with the people the kid is going to interact with online. Whether it's someone saying something to your kid you dont want them to hear or your kid saying something they shouldn't. But that is easily remedied by restricting the kids chat settings (which no parent bothers to do)

 

My 36 year old friend sometimes lets his 10 year old son take over his character and play missions with us. The kid is a good teammate, listens, does what he's told and doesn't purposely kill people or screw up missions. I'll take him over 90 percent of teen/adult randoms any day

[DynamiteLotus]

...he was behaving normally. Not one of his cars had dollar rims or chrome as a primary color, the only 'kid' trademark he had on his cars was white walls and he had them on a black tornado with rims that really suited the car and the white walls only complimented the car as a whole.

Having dollar rims and chrome as primary is the telltale sign of a kid?

 

Man, have I been sending the wrong message...

[Metal Slime]

Kids and "adults" are just douches.

[Elric_Francis92]

Hello guys, I don't really see what's all the child discrimination is about, but I've been heavily insulted for being underaged, and I really think games should not be rated on age, it should be rated on maturity. I am almost 13, but I'm mentally mature enough to play and understand this game. The kids you hear screaming "ni**er" and other popular insults that sound like they are 7 are obviously not mature and should not be playing this game. Hope this topic doesn't get deleted but what do you guys think about kids on this game?

 

While I think that 13 you should be mentally able to handle the game there has been too many examples of complete nutcases around your age doing severe stupid sh*t. (Think the Slender Man involving two girls around yer age trying to kill a classmate for a fictional char.)

 

I hope you are mature enough but seriously that is pretty bad parents letting you play it. Even worse for those letting ANYONE play it under the age of 13. To me those kids should be removed from their care.

Period.

 

[God-eater]

Who the hell dredged this up? Was done to death months ago.

 

Game is restricted to adults only. End of debate. The only people still going on about it are people who are annoyed by kids playing and kids trying to justify why the restriction shouldn't apply to them (which, of course, it absolutely should - you want an 8 year old seeing Trevor's intro? You wanna explain that to them? I sure as f*ck don't).

[kyennamo]

The game is NOT restricted to adults. It is rated Mature.

 

Parents have every right (at least in America) to buy the game for their kid if they so choose. Whether that is a good idea or not is another debate. But you have no right to tell someone what they can or can't buy for their kid.

 

It is completely irrelevant if you or even I feel differently. This is America baby!