SilentPatch

[Jinx.]

Thank you Junior, very cool!

[Junior_Djjr]

3 minutes ago, Silent said:

Unlike a certain blue creature, right? If only he could start treating this seriously... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Any creature, it doesn't have to be blue in any way.

But SilentPatch thread is a good bug-hunt thread, so we are here.

 

I never tried to fix FPS bugs because nobody did, so I thought it was very difficult, especially the swimming problem, something that many people ask for and nobody fixes it.

 

So, let's try to fix it...

 

First, we need to find what function is related to the swimming resistance. The function named "ProcessSwimmingResistance" (68A1D0) seems very convenient...

 

Anyone who knows how to program a movement for some game knows that the problem of FPS dependency is the lack of delta time in some sum or subtraction. We just need to add it.

 

So let's look for some sum not using delta time and related to the velocity.

 

Oh, we found...

 

 

Seriously, it's very easy.

 

But need to fix dive and effects yet. Something else?

[Colbertson]

15 minutes ago, Junior_Djjr said:

Something else?

Strafing at high fps would be nice to have aswell.

You sometimes get stuck and cant strafe at all and theres also weirdness with the speed you can change direction while strafing.

Edited April 20, 2019 by 𝙲olby

[Junior_Djjr]

1 minute ago, 𝙲olby said:

Strafing at high fps would be nice to have aswell.

You sometimes get stuck and cant strafe at all and theres also weirdness with the speed you can change direction while strafing.

This?

[Silent]

22 minutes ago, Junior_Djjr said:

Oh, we found...

 

Funny, because the specific sum you highlighted does use timestep. Weird.

[Blackbird88]

With that water resistance thing can Skimmer take off now? With 60 FPS Skimmer is glued to the water and you can't fly.

Also maybe you should make your own thread lol

Edited April 20, 2019 by Blackbird88

[Junior_Djjr]

10 minutes ago, Silent said:

 

Funny, because the specific sum you highlighted does use timestep. Weird.

I don't know how to explain (maybe because it is 2 operations?), but it works.

If you guys want to test it...

https://sharemods.com/rdo7w67iufp5/test_swimg.7z.html

 

5 minutes ago, Blackbird88 said:

With that water resistance thing can Skimmer take off now? With 60 FPS Skimmer is glued to the water and you can't fly.

Also maybe you should make your own thread lol

This is only related to peds.

Edited April 20, 2019 by Junior_Djjr

[Igor Bogdanoff]

wanted star flickering and pressing horn to start/stop siren is too fast on high fps

[Jinx.]

Could this also be done for III/VC?

[Blackbird88]

Damn Amphibious Assault is so much easier now lol

[Colbertson]

32 minutes ago, Junior_Djjr said:

This?

Thats a really janky feeling fix that makes you go in weird angles sometimes, crashfix has a nicer one.

But neither fix the speed you can switch directions, you can peek around corners and such faster at higher fps.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541020352692879382/569232047122546689/difference.mp4

20 fps on the left, ~100 fps on the right.

Edited April 20, 2019 by 𝙲olby

[Do Quoc Hung]

does 30 fps break the game physic ?

 

[Junior_Djjr]

11 minutes ago, Do Quoc Hung said:

does 30 fps break the game physic ?

The game was made for 25/30 FPS. It originally runs at 25, but removing a delay (SilentPatch does this) it runs correctly at 30.

 

Well, here.

http://www.mixmods.com.br/2019/04/swim-fps-fix.html

 

I already did the two main fixes, it's enough for now, I will stop intruding on this thread but it can continue on on my forum, but I don't want to focus on FPS fixes for now, I have a lot to finish yet.

[Denzal]

Unrelated to FPS stuff, but I have a save file with most missions complete (only Zero missions left) and peds aren't scared of CJ anymore. I can shoot a gun and most people run away but sometimes there's one ped that doesn't react (usually, only one car drives away fast). I can even shoot them several times before they run. If I punch them, they just continue walking like nothing happened. I also jack their cars and they just walk away. Long ago, GTA Wiki had this ped behavior as a "reward" for completing A Home in the Hills. Surely this is a bug.

[Igor Bogdanoff]

3 hours ago, Junior_Djjr said:

I already did the two main fixes, it's enough for now, I will stop intruding on this thread but it can continue on on my forum, but I don't want to focus on FPS fixes for now, I have a lot to finish yet.

cant you make mix mods topic here too? or better yet, have the FPS mod standalone?

[The Lucky Mole]

Nice one @Junior_Djjr.

Edited April 21, 2019 by BustaCJ

[Silent]

13 hours ago, Junior_Djjr said:

I don't know how to explain (maybe because it is 2 operations?), but it works.

 

pow(0.9, x) looks like this:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pow(0.9,+x)

 

so it may be beneficial to have the timestep you added in a similar shape. Not completely sure, mind you.

[pete9516]

22 hours ago, Junior_Djjr said:

Something else?

Traffic cars horning way too fast,

and when playing MTA races on some mta racing servers, there are sometimes race tracks where you have to put client fps limit for boats to 30 or 35, because you slide with a dinghy (or what) on a downhill road. If you do this with high fps, your boat will get stuck in the road, while everybody else with 35 fps passes you by.

oh and i think it makes also a difference when you fly with a helicopter or a plane. The handling feels somehow different. I hope this is the same bug as decreasing gas in cars

- There is also a bug that when you drive the motorcycle at high fps, the tires wear off (like a burnout or drifting with a car) when cj is laying down into the curve

- There is also some strange bug at high fps that when your User Tracks are only normal mp3 format (instead of lame mp3) the game instantly crashes when trying to play one of those none lame mp3 tracks.

- When at high fps and trying to turn a vehicle siren on, it's almost impossible because you have to tip the button so shortly (but i guess Delta Time Fix) fixes this

- When driving with a car and there is a door open, at high fps you can't let the car clap the door

Edited April 21, 2019 by pete9516

[CanerKaraca]

Swim FPS Fix crashing on SAMP but Car FPS Fix doesn't.

[Silent]

Just a reminder that this is not the topic for discussing "common glitches and fixes".

[Gravarty]

On 4/17/2019 at 6:47 PM, Gravarty said:

 

You might be able to play the game at locked 60 FPS but even then you'll experience some issues, like ultra slow swimming. There's no way to get this fixed.

 

On 4/20/2019 at 7:59 PM, Junior_Djjr said:

Seriously, it's very easy.

But need to fix dive and effects yet. Something else?

Okay, nevermind.. It's indeed possible, damn! I'm impressed. 

Edited April 21, 2019 by Gravarty

[TWIST_OF_HATE]

16 hours ago, Junior_Djjr said:

The game was made for 25/30 FPS. It originally runs at 25, but removing a delay (SilentPatch does this) it runs correctly at 30.

 

Well, here.

http://www.mixmods.com.br/2019/04/swim-fps-fix.html

 

I already did the two main fixes, it's enough for now, I will stop intruding on this thread but it can continue on on my forum, but I don't want to focus on FPS fixes for now, I have a lot to finish yet.

14 years ...
And who is really believed that this will ever be fixed until now ?

Good things happens with good games ))
 

Edited April 21, 2019 by TWIST_OF_HATE

[gts.]

What a sh*tshow with the FPS stuff. Please stop, also this is SilentPatch thread. Nothing to do with that stuff.

[Reameb]

I think i'ts ok... since it's related to fixing SA. What should be deleted is "reeeee X mod doesnt work with SAMP pl0x fix, plz maek version compatible wit the samp ok thx give me the file".

[AshGamer007]

Will @Silent add this fixes in the next silentpatch release?

[Jinx.]

I really can't comprehend how some of the users here in this community can have such sh*tty mentalities. How is the FPS stuff a "sh*tshow", in the first place? Do you really want more of those "muh kar no go behind fast" or "the cj slide the alley like tony hawk and died" kind of posts, that you ALSO complain about? Junior just found a way to fix this issue, something that has been rumored for years to be unfixable because "it's hard coded and would require an engine rewriting", and you let it slide away because it wasn't one of your gods and saviors who found a way to fix this? f*ck off with this ignorance at once, this is what keeps this community so backwards, along a few other stuff I'm not going to get in now. This fix is just as valid as the others, whether you care about it or not.

 

But ofcourse you do this, because bootlicking someone who is more popular must be something to take pride in, right? The slightest thought about somebody who mods the game for fun and lives in a third world tier country, with probably little revenue, found the answer to one of the things everybody sought for, while the other, which has years of experience in scripting, has worked for other companies and has a decent revenue, couldn't do that but instead keeps crying about a joke a dude made earlier and flexes with the fact that he could leave modding anytime and make more revenue from other companies anytime, in a seemingly threatening tone, on his own server, but not doing it even though this has been encouraged by others, must make you cringe hard, right? Do I also need to remind how this thread got locked for 5 minutes because this fix was popularized, the unlocking date being supossed to be "after holidays", but it got unlocked out of blue really soon after? I'm not even going to bother anymore.

 

I won't deny that there are other bad apples around, like the kids who cry about this mod not being compatible with their SAMP server or their HD everything modded game, that are not capable of uninstalling mods one by one. I even got warned for telling people that some mods aren't compatible with others by some ledby, which retired 2 years ago or so. But c'mon, this is ridiculous already. Anyway, this entire situation is a certified bruh moment.

Edited April 23, 2019 by Jinx.

[ThirteenAG]

17 minutes ago, Jinx. said:

it's hard coded and would require an engine rewriting

From what I remember, it was always about having to manually find places to patch, so the amount of fps related issues == amount of patches needed. Too tedious most likely. How it is really I don't know, have not been following what's going on recently.

[Jinx.]

Atleast that's the idea I understood all these years. I'll take that point back if needed, but the rest still stands.

[Ash_735]

To be fair when you get nothing but hate from this community for not doing every single request then it does get draining. Silent was interested in this discovery until Junior decided to insult him and call him lazy, whether it was meant in a joking fashion or not throwing it onto someone who's practically done with this community wasn't the brightest idea. 

 

Which is a shame, having some of the best modders come together to at least patch some of the major glaring fps bugs would've been fun to see. 

[gts.]

10 hours ago, Jinx. said:

Spoiler

 

I really can't comprehend how some of the users here in this community can have such sh*tty mentalities. How is the FPS stuff a "sh*tshow", in the first place? Do you really want more of those "muh kar no go behind fast" or "the cj slide the alley like tony hawk and died" kind of posts, that you ALSO complain about? Junior just found a way to fix this issue, something that has been rumored for years to be unfixable because "it's hard coded and would require an engine rewriting", and you let it slide away because it wasn't one of your gods and saviors who found a way to fix this? f*ck off with this ignorance at once, this is what keeps this community so backwards, along a few other stuff I'm not going to get in now. This fix is just as valid as the others, whether you care about it or not.

 

But ofcourse you do this, because bootlicking someone who is more popular must be something to take pride in, right? The slightest thought about somebody who mods the game for fun and lives in a third world tier country, with probably little revenue, found the answer to one of the things everybody sought for, while the other, which has years of experience in scripting, has worked for other companies and has a decent revenue, couldn't do that but instead keeps crying about a joke a dude made earlier and flexes with the fact that he could leave modding anytime and make more revenue from other companies anytime, in a seemingly threatening tone, on his own server, but not doing it even though this has been encouraged by others, must make you cringe hard, right? Do I also need to remind how this thread got locked for 5 minutes because this fix was popularized, the unlocking date being supossed to be "after holidays", but it got unlocked out of blue really soon after? I'm not even going to bother anymore.

 

I won't deny that there are other bad apples around, like the kids who cry about this mod not being compatible with their SAMP server or their HD everything modded game, that are not capable of uninstalling mods one by one. I even got warned for telling people that some mods aren't compatible with others by some ledby, which retired 2 years ago or so. But c'mon, this is ridiculous already. Anyway, this entire situation is a certified bruh moment.

 

 

Wow, you have been triggered in another level for a fricking useless post by me. I wasn't expecting this. So triggered that I need a spoiler to hide all your wall of text. Not even Junior, the author of this FPS fixes gone this crazy.

 

Also I would like to quote...
 

10 hours ago, Jinx. said:

But ofcourse you do this, because bootlicking someone who is more popular must be something to take pride in, right? The slightest thought about somebody who mods the game for fun and lives in a third world tier country, with probably little revenue, found the answer to one of the things everybody sought for, while the other, which has years of experience in scripting, has worked for other companies and has a decent revenue, couldn't do that but instead keeps crying about a joke a dude made earlier and flexes with the fact that he could leave modding anytime and make more revenue from other companies anytime, in a seemingly threatening tone, on his own server, but not doing it even though this has been encouraged by others, must make you cringe hard, right? Do I also need to remind how this thread got locked for 5 minutes because this fix was popularized, the unlocking date being supossed to be "after holidays", but it got unlocked out of blue really soon after? I'm not even going to bother anymore.

Why so much hate against Silent? He owes you something? Or because he's lazy, as some people stated it already but those people can't see all the work he have done already for free... Donations are optional. And everything because he didn't did those FPS fixes first, or ages ago in his patch? I lol'd.

Edited April 23, 2019 by gts.