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Walking Dead Season 2


Lee Everett
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I just think someone died at the end of the episode because of gunshots (Kenny most likely), and probably Christa will appear at Wellington with someone else who helped her escape from the scavengers at the beginning of the season.

 

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Well, i'm trying to hold back on playing fourth episode and wait till the release of the finale were near.
But i just can't because i keep wondering what will happen next, so i played it yesterday. And IMO is the best eps in this season.

 

I get it why lots of people hate it though, how the choices made no real consequences on the story (really wanted to help Sarah....). I love it because it was intense, and more character development in the story. But just when i felt closer to Mike, Bonnie, and Jane, they ended it with that sh*t....
I liked it, but man, i don't want any of them to die.
I'm pretty sure that Clem and the baby are alive, and Kenny will die. Don't know bout the others though. Guessing that Clem and the baby will be on the season 3, and Clem will act as the guardian of the baby, mirroring Lee in season 1. Matured Clementine would look kick-ass.

 

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The end of the video gives a small preview of Ep 5

WARNING
Spoilers for episodes in the Vid.

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PS3 (North America) /PC/Mac = August, 26th

PS3 (Europe) / Xbox 360 = August, 27th

Telltale claimed there weren't going to be any spoilers, but the thumbnail looks like a spoiler so I haven't watched it.

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There's no spoilers, but boy are there feels. :(

The Raccoon made me start to tear up dunno why, prolly because of it's appearance in AmTR

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Spoilers for "No Going Back".

 

 

And just like that, it's over. I know it doesn't sound manly, but I'm close to tears. The emotional Journey of clementine is at it's best. Luke's death, Mike, Bonnie and Arvo leaving, the Lee dream, and finally Kenny/Jane's determinant deaths. I can already see Clementine and Alvin Jr (or Kenny or Jane). Living at Howe's Hardware/Clem living at Wellington

Overall the Season was at it's greatest and I can't see how it can be more awesome in S3.

 

 

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And just like that, it's over. I know it doesn't sound manly, but I'm close to tears. The emotional Journey of clementine is at it's best. Luke's death, Mike, Bonnie and Arvo leaving, the Lee dream, and finally Kenny/Jane's determinant deaths. I can already see Clementine and Alvin Jr (or Kenny or Jane). Living at Howe's Hardware. Despite the fact that the family enter. "Hey, cool hat" "Thanks".

Overall the Season was at it's greatest and I can't see how it can be more awesome in S3.

 

 

 

Crappp I didn't realize it was released and read your comments haha!! I'll play it later and give some thoughts.

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@lee Everett.
I almost get spoiled by that too, but hell, i was quick enough to know that he;s talking about episode 5.
Epicpony muffins, you should add like " spoiler for eps 5 below" or something, just a suggestion.

Will be late to the party since i'm away from home right now.
I refused to get spoiled in anyway. So, won't be here till i play it myself.

I hope it'll be good. I already felt bit depressed by the ending of other series (not a game, a TV show) i liked last week.
So, i'm hoping that it doesn't further my depression, lol.

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I read the spoiler thinking it was something from Ep. 4 or something, but then I realized it was Ep. 5 and I luckily forgot everything.

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I bought both seasons on PS3 just so I could play the finale a day earlier. :pp And i'll probably buy them on next-gen aswell...... just take my money TellTale!

 

I still can't believe the finale is out, I literally remember the day Episode 1 was released. :( And now we gotta wait until late 2015 or probably 2016 until season 3. :cry:

 

Ill post my thoughts later after I've played the episode.

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Ep. 5 Spoilers

 

So much feels. Close to tears in various. At the beginning is just cutscenes, but then is harder to choose what to do: Leave with Mike, Bonnie and Arvo or Kenny, Jane and AJ; Kill Jane or Kenny or both, and choosing to go in Wellington or leave. I had to pause on all of them except leaving with Arvo and Mike and Bonnie, which it was obvious I wouldn't go with them.

When Clem woke up to see those three at the truck, I just thought it was dream until she woke up in the car shot. The dream with Lee got me mindf*cked real hard though.

 

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Episode 5 spoilers.

 

 

Went with Kenny. Didn't even think twice about it.

 

I kinda liked Jane, I really did. But what she did with Rebecca's baby, little Alvin Junior. Lying to Ken about his "death". How she played with his feelings like that just to prove some stupid f*cking point. Just to prove that she was "right", even though Clem already acknowledged that Kenny has gone off the rails.

 

I couldn't stand it. Why would you want to lie to a man that's already so far gone? Why is proving a point even relevant when you're facing a broken man like Kenny? He's f*cking gone. He's sick with anger and loss. The last thing you want to do is pour more salt into his wounds and have him go raving f*cking mad.

 

All of this just to prove that Kenny is turning into Carver. Duh! No sh*t! I've been trying to help him get out of that dark place ever since he lost Sarita. No, no, even before that he seemed very uneasy, back at the cabin.

 

I was never going to shoot him. I knew it would come to that, too. I kept trying to help him get out of that horrible, dark place of loss and mourning. Shooting him to protect some jackass that came in and tried to tell me how to feel about a character I've been with since the beginning was never an option.

 

I feel for Jane. The sh*t she has been through, the groups she lost. The guilt she feels about her sister. I get all of that. But asking me to forsake Kenny is like asking me to forsake Lee. I fought and bled with this guy in S1 with Lee. I was best friends with 'em because he looked out for me and Clem, even if he was an asshole at times.

 

I'm not just going to shoot him right then and there in the snow, without him knowing if Clementine and Alvin Junior would even make it out there in the wilderness. No. That might give him peace, because his existence is already so tormented with loss already, but it would never give him rest, dying and leaving that child behind. The only thing left that gave him humanity.

 

Which brings me to my opinion on why the "Stay in Wellington" ending is the best. Again, this is just my interpretation and personal opinion.

 

Like I just mentioned, Alvin Junior is supposed to be the last good thing Kenny has in his life, besides Clementine (which was already established). He'd want to raise him right, or do the next best thing; have someone he loves and trusts raise him right in a good, stable environment (Clementine).

 

Him getting Clem and AJ into Wellington was his final redemption. It was him finally getting peace after all of the sh*t he's been through. Just getting those two to live somewhere comfortably, so that he can go on knowing that he made a good life possible for the only two things he has left. That's a beautiful way to end a sad, depressing character arc, if you ask me. Not just shooting the character dead in the snow and getting reassured that it was "the right thing" by them as they're dying, full of pain as they go, knowing that they were struck down by the one thing they had left that they truly cared for.

 

What kind of ending to a character is that? A sh*tty one, I'll tell you that.

 

 

TL;DR: All of the "Jane" endings are sh*t. The one where they go back to Howe's is okay, I guess. Starting a new life and all. But my point is this; f*ck Jane and f*ck her for being Molly + Lily 2.0.

 

 

 

 

I apologize if this long wall of text seems overemotional. I literally just finished the episode not too long ago, so the events are still very much fresh in my mind. I just wanted to make a point as to why I thought the ending I went with was the best (bragging unintended, just throwing opinions into the air here).

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Honestly thought season 2 was pretty bad compared to 1 as well as felt a lot shorter in length. I thought Jane and Kenny's rivalry felt very forced in that last chapter and especially the last fight. What the hell was going through Jane's mind to try and provoke Kenny that much just to motivate Clem to leave him when she and everyone else was already very aware of how damaged Kenny was? Clem had already seen his rage on Carver, Arvo and in his constant arguing with other members of the group. Letalone the fact that Jane left the baby in the back seat of a freaking car in the cold where he was likely to weep (he did eventually) and could possibly be eaten by zombies? Jane had been promisingly logical and a calming backbone whenever present up to that point.

 

And then there is Bonnie, Mike and Arvo... what? They went with the Russian guy who 1.) had earlier endangered their lives in what SHOULD'VE been a deadly trap shootout 2.) Spoke very little English 3.) had tried to run and escape from the group after leading them across an ice lake (logically I think the characters would think that Arvo purposefully did this to try and get the others to fall through the ice) 4.) Had known them for the shortest amount of time out of everyone in the group and had barely spoken to them and FINALLY 5.) JUST ABOUT POINT BLANK SHOT THE INNOCENT AND UNARMED CLEMENTINE ?! The kid who had done nothing bad and was responsible for saving the group and doing their dirty work many many times?! Worse than anything that Kenny had done to that point. Mike and Bonnie were never developed as backstabbing characters so this was just bullsh*t lazy writing to get the group to split up further than it already was - which is further illustrated by the very very minimal repercussions to the bullet that went clean through Clem's chest. The way Clem gets up and moves about in the snow and travels to Wellington/ Carver's hideout was as if it never even happened!

 

 

 

Sorry for my ranting, I just had to voice that.

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Yeah, Season 2 definitely has some questionable writing choices. It seems like a lot was rushed in episodes 4 and 5. Especially in 4 with...

 

 

Nick's death. You just find him as a walker and put him out of his misery. Don't even get to see how he turns. I didn't care much for Nick, but that was really poor closure to his very evident character arc.

 

 

Can't blame them. They seem to be under a lot of pressure. They were working on The Wolf Among Us at the same time as well, were they not? And now they have two other games in the works. That Game of Thrones game and the upcoming Borderlands one.

 

I don't think TellTale is that big, neither. I heard they only had ONE guy animate ALL of the animations in The Wolf Among Us. Pretty wild, if it's true.

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They're making a Borderlands game?

 

Man, I hate those games - found them spectacularly dull and boring but my bias aside, it'd be interesting to see them pull that off. From what I know, Borderlands isn't exactly praised for a great story or interesting characters - sure TellTale could create them but in the Borderlands universe I just can't even imagine it.

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They're making a Borderlands game?

 

Man, I hate those games - found them spectacularly dull and boring but my bias aside, it'd be interesting to see them pull that off. From what I know, Borderlands isn't exactly praised for a great story or interesting characters - sure TellTale could create them but in the Borderlands universe I just can't even imagine it.

Yeah, It's weird. It'll be in a very similar style to their old games, but I think It'll have way more action.

 

Game of Thrones is the one I'm really interested in. I think it's a perfect fit for TellTale. The writers are already great at giving us gut punches, and GoT has been doing just that for the longest time. Can't wait to see what they do with it!

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Pretty disappointed that Luke died, as I was waiting for a Luke vs Kenny decision, and he was my favorite character. Not going to lie, I cried when he kicked the bucket, especially after trying to help him myself.

 

Screw Mike.

 

Screw Bonnie.

 

Screw Arvo.

 

Screw Jane.

 

 

That is all. Feeling kinda sick, so don't want to go in-depth.

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man, I'm the 12% that rode out with Jane. I figured Kenny went off the deep end with the events of Sarita... It was also a spur of the moment ordeal, honestly, pressing start or starting over takes away the purpose of the game... especially a first playthrough.

 

Best episode of the season by far... The Lee dream really hit my heart.

 

Hehe, I also got Bonnie killed in my playthrough. Bitch was so sprung off of luke she dropped in the lake tryin' to save him.

 

And for the record I wanted Arvo immediately killed after the first cut scene, I was really hoping Clementine had the option to off him while everyone (besides Kenny) stood up for him.

 

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In my opinion, the best ending is the one where Clem refuses to go to Wellington. I get that Kenny's goal for the whole episode was to get AJ and Clem there; that was the only thing keeping him going. But after everything he's been through in these ten episodes, I can't just let him roam Ohio with no more reason to live. With the entire group dead and seeing how unhinged Kenny was becoming, I don't think leaving him alone would be good, and he would probably just surrender himself to walkers.

 

At least this way, Clem, AJ and him have supplies and can set up camp in the area. If they're able to stay safe and make the supplies last, they could wait out the month it would take for all three of them to be accepted to Wellington and maybe they could have a happy ending. If anything were to go wrong and Kenny dies, at least Clem can return to Wellington at any time and she and AJ would be accepted. The character of Clementine I've created would never be so submissive as to leave Kenny. He put it best; "You're stubborn as a damn mule." and it's all Lee's doing.

 

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f*ck this sh*t

I just played on my own feels and what I thought was right/felt best. I didn't want Kenny to be harmed nor Jane.

 

I f*cking hate how you have to make a choice. I let fate decide. Kenny got the upper hand. Eventhough the rational choice was to go in the 'big ass wall' place I wanted to stick with Kenny because obviously the whole way through and at the end part you see how much Kenny sacrificed to keep YOU, Clem and AJ safe.... and how he sacrifices even his own wellbeing for YOU, Clem and AJ.

 

So much feels, so f*cked up. I cried big time. I don't care what anyone thinks or whatever. This game hits me harder than anything really.

 

I'm done (for now). I can't take it. Curious what they'll come up with in the future. For now, this is too much for me too handle (did last 2 seasons in one day). This is too much. So far the only videogame that knows to capture the feels of TWD comics.

 

 

 

Oh, not to mention. The f*cking AMC show is uninspired, non legit bullsh*t that has not one grain of 'humanity' in it. This game right here did it right. It has it's flaws (like the comic does) but so far it proved to be as superb, genius and compelling as the comics.

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Strange enough I loved season 2 of The Walking Dead. I know others will say it was a farm simulator or whatever etc etc but it feels like the last season where the zombies were actually dangerous rather than canon fodder to Rick and his gang. There's something off about seasons after that, especially 4. A lot of the time I get bored watching it now.

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In my opinion, the best ending is the one where Clem refuses to go to Wellington. I get that Kenny's goal for the whole episode was to get AJ and Clem there; that was the only thing keeping him going. But after everything he's been through in these ten episodes, I can't just let him roam Ohio with no more reason to live. With the entire group dead and seeing how unhinged Kenny was becoming, I don't think leaving him alone would be good, and he would probably just surrender himself to walkers.

 

At least this way, Clem, AJ and him have supplies and can set up camp in the area. If they're able to stay safe and make the supplies last, they could wait out the month it would take for all three of them to be accepted to Wellington and maybe they could have a happy ending. If anything were to go wrong and Kenny dies, at least Clem can return to Wellington at any time and she and AJ would be accepted. The character of Clementine I've created would never be so submissive as to leave Kenny. He put it best; "You're stubborn as a damn mule." and it's all Lee's doing.

 

 

 

I think staying at Wellington relieves Kenny the most, though. I haven't seen the ending where you go with him, but I think that it's great that he finally finds peace with himself when he manages to get Clem and AJ into Wellington. I mean, there's no rule saying that Kenny can't visit them outside of the gates, right? That must give him a reason to live. Seeing AJ grow up.

 

I like to think he has the intention of visiting the two at Wellington every year or so, whilst also helping out groups himself out in the world. Because really, that's all he was beforehand. A leader. Someone everyone looked up to and asked "what do we do". That's the only reason he kept himself alive. He had no family. He had noone else to live for. Just other groups and communities that he contributed to in too big of a way for him to just "chicken out" and die.

 

He can do that again. Helping more groups find their way, but now he also has a personal reason for living. Seeing AJ grow up, seeing Clem finally live a peaceful life that she deserved from the start.

 

 

 

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edit: nvm i'm dumb!

 

All in all i really liked season 2. So many woah and holy sh*t moments. I can't wait to see what's in store for season 3, although i'm really not able to make anything out of the ending. We'll have to see!

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man it was weird watching the dream sequence. The same place Lee had a dream of Clem being a walker. I get damn goosebumps when a discussion about Lee pops up and definitely did so for that moment as well... hopefully, if the story continues to follow Clem, there will be more moments like that

 

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Son of a bitch. That was a tough episode. I got Luke killed, a walker got him when we fell into the lake. I should've known that bitch Bonnie was nothing but trouble. And to think I was starting to feel bad for tht crack whore. It's a shame how Luke died. I was genuinely surprised that everyone was alive at the start of the episode. :D

 

I sided with Kenny with the plan to go to Wellington. I actually felt really angry that Mike was going to betray me. I thought he was a good dude. Then that bastard Arno shot me. I'm disappointed that I wasn't able to shoot the sob between the eyes. In the end I'm alone. I shot Kenny, as much as I loved the guy I thought his time was up and I knew I was going to have to do it sooner or later. He was suffering too much and I wanted to reunite the family. I left Jane, she folds under pressure. Can't have that around me. The feels were definitely strong in this episode.

 

I believe we'll get another Clem season to finish her story. I wouldn't mind it if it were a new character, though. So what happens if you look away? Does Kenny kill Jane?

 

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