Hackers ruining GTAV the same way they did IV.

[Osho]

Those hackers need to be banned for life. Assholes have ruined the fun in gtao and worst they are keeping rockstar more busy in sorting out these issues.

[Bonaldo]

Lol, it's Rockstar's problem that they don't know how to secure the game from hackers

[Osho]

It's how easy to pass on the problems over Rockstar as if they always loved them in the first place.

[KimJongIl]

It's how easy to pass on the problems over Rockstar as if they always loved them in the first place.

Well pretty easy when Rockstar don't encrypt the tunables file that's available without a password from their website.

 

So what did this guy do to you? His rank isn't an issue as perks stop at 120.

[PhillBellic]

How many ranks are there normally in GTA:O?

[KimJongIl]

How many ranks are there normally in GTA:O?

1000. I forget the name of the guy but one player streamed every game he played and got there legit a couple of weeks ago.

Edited December 26, 2013 by KimJongIl

[Osho]

 

It's how easy to pass on the problems over Rockstar as if they always loved them in the first place.

 

Well pretty easy when Rockstar don't encrypt the tunables file that's available without a password from websiteI don't have that level of technical understanding to debate. But, I am sure there MUST be a reason for such a lazy attitude from rockstar. That may not be easy for them at this time when they are still expanding the online possibilities with new missions and updates before they finally focus on securing the player experience.

I was trying to point out to hackers that it's not right to push the great game in such a mess for own selfish fun and waste rockstar's time.

[bahraini_carguy]

Its me where i am living or i don't see hackers a lot in the lobby's?? I remember in gta iv on ps3 and pc, i see a lot of hackers but in gta v i see few or none. i fell bad for you guys.

 

I Guess that was a luck for not seeing a hacker in the lobby's.

[PkUnzipper]

This makes me happy I don't play online. I knew this would happen and piss me off in the process. I will play online one day if this is sorted out. But hacking or modding or whatever is a like a cancer for these games. Even the so called mods I've seen for previous games on YouTube like "graphics mods" and so on, they all make the games look like sh*t IMO. I would much prefer a game left to devs to work on.

 

You CAN play online without requiring a tampon for the cyber nose bleeds these village idiots give everyone. It's called Invite Only and Solo Sessions. But the problem with these servers lately, is that the recent 1.07 and 1.08 patches appear to have made these sessions unstable.

 

The last couple of Invite only & Solo sessions I've been on have frozen up unpredictably. And this appears to be with an increasing frequency lately. Especially when sending my char to sleep on the bed to remove the scars etc.

 

There's also a remotel possibility that you'll end up being placed in a regular server instead of back in the Invite Only session. This happened to me once when I tried to separate from the group of players I was with at the voting screen. I voted for a screen refresh but the majority of the other players opted to return to regular FM. Which is exactly where I ended up.

Edited December 26, 2013 by PkUnzipper

[PkUnzipper]

 

 

I've just found out that the core problem is that GTA Online is infested with f*cking teenagers. I don't think hackers would be that much of a problem if they didn't had these mentally-ill packed hordes caring about them.

 

Sorry if anyone feels offended. Teenagers really suck and I can't help myself to hate them when they use goddamn speakers and I hear dat f*cking baby voice ruining my cool online session. So much hate.

 

To be fair although it's rated 18 just like most games, adults should be over games anyway. You don't see them continuing playing Cluedo or Monopoly or whatever the f*ck us 'baby voice teenagers' probably play. It should be a phase and I know I won't be playing games when I'm at 20, probably even 18 because I would have better things to do with my life than hang around with people younger than me.

That's pretty bold statement to make, especially since a lot of members in this forum are above 18 years old, and do play GTA: Online.

 

 

basically this. Nathaaann not to come across as sounding condescending, but this was an extremely presumptuous statement to make. While the average console gamer ranges in age from mid 20s to mid 30s, there are a LOT of older gamers (like myself) who STILL play games. But as a hobby and not a phase as you've indicated.

 

But I suspect that with my generation of gamers (Gen X) we tend to focus more exclusively on PC gaming (which IMO is the last bastion of high quality, deep immersion gaming aka Skyrim, SA, VC etc.) v. online gaming (which as an old school gamer, I find superficial and increasingly social media based. Perfect example of this is Farmville and now GTAO).

 

IMO, the younger generation gamers like Gen Ys and yourself (Gen Z) most likely grew up on online gaming (which was most likely via the console). Thanks to the proliferation of social media (and internet conveniences like Youtube & Google) which are now a permanent feature of the online gaming community, you've been socially conditioned on your perception of who makes up a gaming community.

 

On this forum alone, I suspect the majority of posters are minors who have yet to graduate high school. I base that on the sort of immature posts I see in threads around the forums. Since these sorts of threads/posts are all you see on a daily basis, then it's logical to assume the majority of gamers who play GTAO (and online games) are a specific chronological demographic. When IMO, this couldn't be further from the truth. Since I believe the majority of older gamers are casual gamers who don't care to post on forums and/or lurk on here (and other gaming forums).

 

In my case, I've always lurked on the older GTA forums and have never felt the need to post until recently. Because until GTA V, I've always been an extremely contented PC gamer. I used the forums to download mods, stay current with game news, and get help/tech support from other gamers to fix what was wrong with my PC game. And I was very satisfied accumulating many additional game play hours with my heavily modded GTA titles on the PC (like with SA and GTA IV).

 

Until R* decided to f*ck over SP for GTAO, which forced a change in the fundamental way in which I have enjoyed the GTA franchise. And to date R* has increasingly lost my confidence in their ability to control the scat storm that GTAO has now blown up into. So I went from being an anonymous lurker to writing wall to wall posts raging against R*. Because I need to vent my frustration and disillusionment with how it appears they're going to screw up SP on future GTA titles----assuming we'll get a future SP with GTA 6 that is.

 

The online gaming community is a LOT more complex than you think Nathaaann. And especially since a growing number of the online and GTA fan base community happen to be young AND female gamers in your age demographic.

Edited December 26, 2013 by PkUnzipper

[carl turtle]

IV was always a ruined game

[Mcquiz]

IV was always a ruined game

Says a Llama

[tymaster50]

Nope, the mods are in for the long run. ONce the DNS server methods started popping up, its been crazy ever since.

[Celticfang]

IMO, there's a clear distinction (at least on PC) between hackers and modders, though some do straddle that line (see illegal mods, illegal in terms of messing with exe files which is usually a no go)

Console modders/hackers? Nah not so much, stereotypically you have to mod your console, I did with my PS2 to play imported games. I physically had to hack my console to do that. Whereas now with the PS3, I could just switch a few settings and bam, new server and (say for GTAO) billions of stuff in a game, money, Xp, whatever. That's hacking in my book. So is loading a trainer up on an MP console game and using it. Again hacking the game files.

Modding? That IMHO is a gray area on consoles but if anything it's a tiny tiny fraction of what it is on PC simply due to it being harder to mod and not be labeled a cheater.

[Woll Smoth]

Lol at this actually being a surprise to people....

[serpentoflight]

Everyone must have decent friends added, with that in mind hackers can't ruin GTAO if you play invite only with friends, joining a random game will no doubt be full of tanks and terminators but it's not an issue if you play invite only, GTAO is not ruined unless you join random sessions with people u dont know, problem(s) solved, you're welcome.

[Niobium]

Literally.

And they're kind fun to f*ck with, too.

I came across this dude with GodMode a few hours ago.

He was in the middle of the street shooting rockets at everyone. I kept going back and forth, running him over at 100+ Mph every time. And he just kept missing and missing. He kept yelling and raging. It was kinda funny.

A few other players eventually joined in on trolling him. He placed million dollar bounties on us but we didn't kill eachother, we just kept annoying him. Felt like world peace.

But still, he was an asshole, he deserved to be treated like an asshole, and he deserved to be laughed at by a bunch of assholes.

i wish i was there lol

[KilikaDenn13]

Literally.

And they're kind fun to f*ck with, too.

I came across this dude with GodMode a few hours ago.

He was in the middle of the street shooting rockets at everyone. I kept going back and forth, running him over at 100+ Mph every time. And he just kept missing and missing. He kept yelling and raging. It was kinda funny.

A few other players eventually joined in on trolling him. He placed million dollar bounties on us but we didn't kill eachother, we just kept annoying him. Felt like world peace.

But still, he was an asshole, he deserved to be treated like an asshole, and he deserved to be laughed at by a bunch of assholes.

 

if you want to killl someone who has god mode on....get a tank and run them over but stay on top of them...they eventually die...TANKS are god mode players WORST enemy...plus constantly shooting them with the tanks rockets non stop and pissing them off is fun 2.

[Niobium]

As I predicted, several people have stepped in to claim Modders are only improving the game experience for everyone. I have NEVER seen one time where I felt any modder improved my experience. This is an incredibly insulting and arrogant assumption. Nobody ASKED you to modify my game experience, but these turds just don't give a damn. They feel ENTITLED to do whatever they please, and then come here to lecture everyone and even insinuate that the rest of us should feel GRATITUDE.

What about folks who simply want to enjoy the experience the way the developer INTENDED?

 

You aren't going to convince me that modders are any better than hackers. This is something only people in the "mod community" come up with to justify their arrogant belief that they have a god given RIGHT to modify someone elses work.

 

Keep promoting that B.S., while watching how almost EVERY game eventually drowns in this problem. GTAV continues to deteriorate daily, and these same idiots will keep coming here acting as if they aren't part of the problem.

i agree that these modders are evil, but only the ones who use their modding abilities to gain an unfair advantage. every other modder is ok.

 

also, hacking is kind of like modding the game illegally.

 

every hacker that uses hacks to gain an unfair advantage, or gives you trillions of dollars against your will and acts like they are helping improve your experience, is a self-righteous piece of sh*t

[Niobium]

isn't it funny how people are saying SP isn't as good as it could have been because the focus is on online, yet online is full of hackers/griefers?

[xXxTerrorist]

isn't it funny how people are saying SP isn't as good as it could have been because the focus is on online, yet online is full of hackers/griefers?

Not funny at all... just an example of how the community here is a sh*t swamp.

[Smith John]

I think the point 73duster is trying to make here; is that while online modders may not have the malicious intent that the dickless, 10 year old hackers may have, they are still inflicting their version of the game where it may not be wanted. Just because they might find their creation a fun enhancement of the game, does not necessarily mean everyone else will. Sure, you've paid for the game, do whatever you want with it....in single player. But please keep it the f*ck out of online, where most people just want to play the game the way it was originally created and intended.

[73duster]

Thank you Niko, this is an accurate assessment of my comments regarding this issue. Unfortunately, people are going to continue making this all about less important stuff, AS I SAID THEY WOULD ORIGINALLY.

[WBaker]

It doesn't really affect how I play but I feel bad for those it does. The Christmas noobs are really going to miss out.

 

Actually I'm rather enjoying spawn killing "godmode" people. Some of them are so surprised they can die.

[Geralt of Rivia]

I think the point 73duster is trying to make here; is that while online modders may not have the malicious intent that the dickless, 10 year old hackers may have, they are still inflicting their version of the game where it may not be wanted. Just because they might find their creation a fun enhancement of the game, does not necessarily mean everyone else will. Sure, you've paid for the game, do whatever you want with it....in single player. But please keep it the f*ck out of online, where most people just want to play the game the way it was originally created and intended.

Modding SP to enhance and modding MP to enhance are completely different. Everyone hates MP hackers that use it for malicious purposes. However, 73Duster did not differentiate what he meant. He said things that could be taken either way, and that's why everyone's giving him sh*t.

[Scheintot887]

Thank you Niko, this is an accurate assessment of my comments regarding this issue. Unfortunately, people are going to continue making this all about less important stuff, AS I SAID THEY WOULD ORIGINALLY.

 

 

WHY you didn't read my first post in page 1 of this thread? WHY??

 

Are you not able to understand that modders are NOT exist on Ps3 or Xbox360? This guys are HACKERS and they are a known problem since super mario.

Wikipedia can be edit by ANYONE. Even someone like YOU. But I think you will never understand that Modders are no Hackers because you probably are a console gamer without any knowledge about something like Mods. Even this Forum has a section named Mods. Just look at it... OMG; HACKERS ARE HERE????!?!

Edited December 26, 2013 by Scheintot887

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

Thank you Niko, this is an accurate assessment of my comments regarding this issue. Unfortunately, people are going to continue making this all about less important stuff, AS I SAID THEY WOULD ORIGINALLY.

 

 

WHY you didn't read my first post in page 1 of this thread? WHY??

 

Are you not able to understand that modders are NOT exist on Ps3 or Xbox360? This guys are HACKERS and they are a known problem since super mario.

Wikipedia can be edit by ANYONE. Even someone like YOU. But I think you will never understand that Modders are no Hackers because you probably are a console gamer without any knowledge about something like Mods. Even this Forum has a section named Mods. Just look at it... OMG; HACKERS ARE HERE????!?!

 

Also this^^^

[73duster]

I never said SH*T about Fcking offline story mode. YOU idiots are the ones who don't know how to F*cking read or interpret someone's statement. When did I EVER talk about offline? Why would I give a sh*t about what people do offline?

 

I'm still waiting for one of you to explain how ANYONE has made GTAV online multiplayer a BETTER experience for everyone.

Edited December 26, 2013 by 73duster

[Scheintot887]

I never said SH*T about Fcking offline story mode. YOU idiots are the ones who don't know how to F*cking read or interpret someone's statement. When did I EVER talk about offline? Why would I give a sh*t about what people do offline?

 

Dude, I guess you are to upset to understand that Mods also can be played online. I say again, just for you.

 

The Devs (in GTA: ROCKSTAR) can release some Modtools for the Community and some people, who are able to work with this tools can create some cool, free content. You can download this content. Something like new cars for GTA, new Weapons, Maps, what ever. But in PS3 or Xbox this is NOT possible. Not in SP and MP. But on PC this is even possible on MP. The server just need to support this MOD. Do you understand KNOW?

 

HACKERS are NOT doing the same. They are not working with the MOD TOOLS (released by Devs, in this case ROCKSTAR) and they are cracking the gamefiles illegally. Without permission.

 

Look at Youtube. GTA 4 Mods http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoBH_HgHsKg

Edited December 26, 2013 by Scheintot887

[Smith John]

 

I think the point 73duster is trying to make here; is that while online modders may not have the malicious intent that the dickless, 10 year old hackers may have, they are still inflicting their version of the game where it may not be wanted. Just because they might find their creation a fun enhancement of the game, does not necessarily mean everyone else will. Sure, you've paid for the game, do whatever you want with it....in single player. But please keep it the f*ck out of online, where most people just want to play the game the way it was originally created and intended.

Modding SP to enhance and modding MP to enhance are completely different. Everyone hates MP hackers that use it for malicious purposes. However, 73Duster did not differentiate what he meant. He said things that could be taken either way, and that's why everyone's giving him sh*t.

 

I'm pretty sure I made it clear where my disdain lie's. I'm well aware of the difference between SP and MP modding, and the only difference is either altering the game for personal pleasure, or altering the game to inflict it on people who do not request it.

 

Maybe 73duster didn't word it properly, but I still picked up on what he was getting at.

Edited December 26, 2013 by niko bellic half brother