Do you think the cash cards are the reason for all this hacking?

[Odesza]

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

 

posts this and later says wasn't insulting me. Go guess.

 

 

 

btw like I said before I did my first millions, legit, no glitch, no buying stupid cash cards.

 

OP I'm gonna be completely honest you seem like you have a hard time understanding what people are saying, especially sarcastic posts and you take them the wrong way and get instantly upset over it.

[Brazilian Mermaid]

 

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

 

posts this and later says wasn't insulting me. Go guess.

 

 

 

btw like I said before I did my first millions, legit, no glitch, no buying stupid cash cards.

 

OP I'm gonna be completely honest you seem like you have a hard time understanding what people are saying, especially sarcastic posts and you take them the wrong way and get instantly upset over it.

 

 

if the crybabies part was sarcasm it really didn't seem clear to me

Edited December 25, 2013 by ynashimitsu

[Odesza]

 

 

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

 

posts this and later says wasn't insulting me. Go guess.

 

 

 

btw like I said before I did my first millions, legit, no glitch, no buying stupid cash cards.

 

OP I'm gonna be completely honest you seem like you have a hard time understanding what people are saying, especially sarcastic posts and you take them the wrong way and get instantly upset over it.

 

 

if the crybabies part was sarcasm it really didn't seem clear to me

 

It seems like you didn't understand the "did I say no already" part of it you seemed pretty upset especially with the real life comment lmao.

 

Just callin' it like I see it OP.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Odesza

[Brazilian Mermaid]

I understood the did I say no, I was being sarcastic too gosh.

 

I already told you it's not disagreeing with me that makes me upset, it's the uneducated folks that think they look cool making fun of a girl on the internet.

 

 

if you disagree you don't need to call me a crybaby, or someone who can't play legit.

Edited December 25, 2013 by ynashimitsu

[Odesza]

I understood the did I say no, I was being sarcastic too gosh.

 

I already told you it's not disagreeing with me that makes me upset, it's the uneducated folks that think they look cool making fun of a girl on the internet.

Nobody probably even know you were a girl until you said anything, I sure didn't nor do I care. You seem to be the only one that thinks it's a "big" deal.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Odesza

[sportbikepilot369]

 

 

 

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

I made plenty of money before I was gifted a billion (I had about $900,000 and had spent about 5 million). But most of it was done grinding boring ass races where everyone played bumper cars. It was done wasting time in missions where half the player would run around like assholes not knowing the objectives, dying, or just plain griefing other players in the mission. Selling cars once an hour, wasting time holding up store. Hoping for the occasional armored car. And with every update Rockstar would nerf payouts. The game was becoming a job, losing all fun, a boring f*ck grind. If you enjoy that kind of game play, good on you. But f*ck right off telling others to enjoy it the same way you do. Some of us have lives and don't want to spend 7 hours a day playing a game. We all paid our $60, we should all be able to enjoy all the features the game has without losing family, friends, and our homes to do it.

 

If you think you had to spend 7hrs a day to make 5 million idk what game you were playing pre payout nerfs lol.

 

You also don't have to grind every day 24/7 to unlock anything on this game, who said you even had to have everything at once. What's key here is this isn't how "I want others to play" this is how Rockstar designed the game to be played by progressively unlocking things and actually having to earn them it's your choice how you earn them either by spending 7hrs a day or just playing an hour or two a day, but cheating is just a pathetic excuse to feed childish greed over a video game.

 

Yeah I didn't race criminal records over and over ad nauseum to boost my cash. I made my 6 million casually playing the game (i.e. NOT playing 7 hours a day). I didn't nor do I want everything at once. I made my levels and all that they unlock "legitimately" (I'm a 120). all my stats are at 100%, even lung capacity, which was soooo much fun working on (more sarcasm like the previous 7 hours a day comment). But too much of that game time was spent making cash, which rockstar nerfed at every opportunity for one reason and one reason only. To boost cash cards sales. So f*ck them. Now I can just cruise around in free roam in my Entity, one in every color of the rainbow. And if that makes you butt hurt as a "legitimate" player playing the way Cockstar wants you to (chokeonit), all the sweeter.

 

I didn't even know CR gave you a good cash payout, I wouldn't know either.

 

Again it's your choice to how you play this game, either playing a lot per day (which wasn't required at all pre payout nerfs) or casually playing it every now and then and slowly unlocking things that you don't even really need, granted you can say they did it to boost cash cards I can make just as believable as an argument about them nerfing the payouts so the game would be harder for "hardcore gamers" so I don't see your point at all. You can even buy cash cards if you want, regardless of how you play if you're playing in one of the 3 ways I just described you're still playing the game the way it was designed to be played. Cheating is just a poor excuse for greedy lazy children.

 

And just so you know nothing currently happening makes me "butthurt" I've had 130 for awhile now and had all my weapons maxed/ammo maxed/fully modded garage since the first month, congrats on finally getting an entity.

Your logic is flawed. If they were nerfing payouts to make the game harder to appeal to the "hardcore" gamers, wouldn't this have been better accomplished by making hardcore servers just like they made free aim servers (a real attempt to make a place for the hardcore gamers)? There was one simple reason they nerfed payout, making the game harder for everyone. Slow cash cards sales. They didn't make this game for sh*t and giggle, they made it to make money. Why alienate your core group of customers (the casual gamers)? Why drive casual player away to appease a small minority, ones that take such pride in their hardcore "legitimate" play style, players that would never sully themselves by buying cash cards?

[Brazilian Mermaid]

 

I understood the did I say no, I was being sarcastic too gosh.

 

I already told you it's not disagreeing with me that makes me upset, it's the uneducated folks that think they look cool making fun of a girl on the internet.

Nobody probably even know you were a girl until you said anything, I sure didn't nor do I care. You seem to be the only one that thinks it's a "big" deal.

 

I'm not asking you to care, I'm saying it won't make you cool.

[Odesza]

 

 

I understood the did I say no, I was being sarcastic too gosh.

 

I already told you it's not disagreeing with me that makes me upset, it's the uneducated folks that think they look cool making fun of a girl on the internet.

Nobody probably even know you were a girl until you said anything, I sure didn't nor do I care. You seem to be the only one that thinks it's a "big" deal.

 

I'm not asking you to care, I'm saying it won't make you cool.

 

I don't think anyone thought they would make them look cool except you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

I made plenty of money before I was gifted a billion (I had about $900,000 and had spent about 5 million). But most of it was done grinding boring ass races where everyone played bumper cars. It was done wasting time in missions where half the player would run around like assholes not knowing the objectives, dying, or just plain griefing other players in the mission. Selling cars once an hour, wasting time holding up store. Hoping for the occasional armored car. And with every update Rockstar would nerf payouts. The game was becoming a job, losing all fun, a boring f*ck grind. If you enjoy that kind of game play, good on you. But f*ck right off telling others to enjoy it the same way you do. Some of us have lives and don't want to spend 7 hours a day playing a game. We all paid our $60, we should all be able to enjoy all the features the game has without losing family, friends, and our homes to do it.

 

If you think you had to spend 7hrs a day to make 5 million idk what game you were playing pre payout nerfs lol.

 

You also don't have to grind every day 24/7 to unlock anything on this game, who said you even had to have everything at once. What's key here is this isn't how "I want others to play" this is how Rockstar designed the game to be played by progressively unlocking things and actually having to earn them it's your choice how you earn them either by spending 7hrs a day or just playing an hour or two a day, but cheating is just a pathetic excuse to feed childish greed over a video game.

 

Yeah I didn't race criminal records over and over ad nauseum to boost my cash. I made my 6 million casually playing the game (i.e. NOT playing 7 hours a day). I didn't nor do I want everything at once. I made my levels and all that they unlock "legitimately" (I'm a 120). all my stats are at 100%, even lung capacity, which was soooo much fun working on (more sarcasm like the previous 7 hours a day comment). But too much of that game time was spent making cash, which rockstar nerfed at every opportunity for one reason and one reason only. To boost cash cards sales. So f*ck them. Now I can just cruise around in free roam in my Entity, one in every color of the rainbow. And if that makes you butt hurt as a "legitimate" player playing the way Cockstar wants you to (chokeonit), all the sweeter.

 

I didn't even know CR gave you a good cash payout, I wouldn't know either.

 

Again it's your choice to how you play this game, either playing a lot per day (which wasn't required at all pre payout nerfs) or casually playing it every now and then and slowly unlocking things that you don't even really need, granted you can say they did it to boost cash cards I can make just as believable as an argument about them nerfing the payouts so the game would be harder for "hardcore gamers" so I don't see your point at all. You can even buy cash cards if you want, regardless of how you play if you're playing in one of the 3 ways I just described you're still playing the game the way it was designed to be played. Cheating is just a poor excuse for greedy lazy children.

 

And just so you know nothing currently happening makes me "butthurt" I've had 130 for awhile now and had all my weapons maxed/ammo maxed/fully modded garage since the first month, congrats on finally getting an entity.

Your logic is flawed. If they were nerfing payouts to make the game harder to appeal to the "hardcore" gamers, wouldn't this have been better accomplished by making hardcore servers just like they made free aim servers (a real attempt to make a place for the hardcore gamers)? There was one simple reason they nerfed payout, making the game harder for everyone. Slow cash cards sales. They didn't make this game for sh*t and giggle, they made it to make money. Why alienate your core group of customers (the casual gamers)? Why drive casual player away to appease a small minority, ones that take such pride in their hardcore "legitimate" play style, players that would never sully themselves by buying cash cards?

 

I don't know the process that would go into setting up that kind of server and neither do you, so let's not even start. The game is better this way because it will take people longer to unlock and earn things thus making players want to play the game more so they can work more towards the things they want only making that goal more worth it when they reach it, I know that all people won't get that feeling (the greedy children I was talking about) but still it's a good model for a long lasting online RPG and one that a lot of games use.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Odesza

[SAVILLAIN]

this thread went from conspiracy then to a cheap episode of dr phil healing

[Brazilian Mermaid]

^^^^ wrong Odesza, I already said only frustated people with no social life do that. YOU are the one who thinks you look cool by doing that. That's why you do it.

Edited December 25, 2013 by ynashimitsu

[Odesza]

this thread went from conspiracy then to a cheap episode of dr phil healing

wow you think you're f*cking cool for calling OP dr phil just because she's a girl.

 

^^^^ wrong, I already said only frustated people with no social life do that. YOU are the one who thinks you look cool by doing that. That's why you do it. Gosh use your brain.

Except I just told you that nobody here would have known you were a girl (it doesn't say it on your profile) until you said something about it. You are still the only one making a big deal about it. And you seem to be the only one who wants to bring attention to it.

I just specifically told you I don't care and wouldn't have known if you didn't say anything.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Odesza

[Homemade Dynamite]

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

OK, you're a R* fanboy. We get it.

[Odesza]

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

OK, you're a R* fanboy. We get it.

 

I actually disagree with multiple decisions they've made especially in regards to how they have handled certain announcements. You can't read, we get it.

[Alec Skorpio]

I'd be willing to agree that glitching became more rampant than it would have because of the nerfing of payouts and raising prices of items, which was done to promote cash cards...

 

But hacking would have happened regardless.

[Homemade Dynamite]

 

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

OK, you're a R* fanboy. We get it.

 

I actually disagree with multiple decisions they've made especially in regards to how they have handled certain announcements. You can't read, we get it.

 

Man, you are so hopeless.

 

Seriously, a two year old could've made the connection between nerfed payouts, increased prices, and cash cards. It's obvious to pretty much everyone BUT you.

[Crafty-]

No its not the reason for the hacking, the hackers would have done that anyway, its just a convenient excuse.

 

For one thing the cash cards are not necessary, lvl 75, 10 cars in the garage, over $2.5m earned and have about half that sat in the bank account (waiting for the ability to store more cars).

 

The issue is that plenty of people just can't be bothered to pay the game as intended, they want everything (weapons, cars + mods) immediately, so hacked it.

 

Ask the hackers - if the game was unhackable would they have purchased cash cards ? I'll bet the vast majority would say no.

[Odesza]

 

 

 

No.

 

It's also only "OBVIOUS" to terrible crybabies, nobody else feels that way other than people who didn't know how to earn cash legit to begin with. Oh and no, but honestly no.

 

Did I say no already.

OK, you're a R* fanboy. We get it.

 

I actually disagree with multiple decisions they've made especially in regards to how they have handled certain announcements. You can't read, we get it.

 

Man, you are so hopeless.

 

Seriously, a two year old could've made the connection between nerfed payouts, increased prices, and cash cards. It's obvious to pretty much everyone BUT you.

 

This week on the hit show Speculation.

[Themonsterhunter]

Of course not. Even if R* had not put in cash cards, as soon as hackers found a way to godmode/give cash/ level up extremely quickly they would have jumped on it. The only thing that cash cards did was act as a scapegoat to try to justify the cheating that the hackers are doing.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Themonsterhunter

[Odesza]

Of course not. Even if R* had not put in cash cards as soon hackers found a way to godmode/give cash/ level up extremely quickly they would have jumped on it. The only thing that cash cards did was act as a scapegoat to try to justify the cheating that the hackers are doing.

Perfectly said.

[Homemade Dynamite]

I guarantee you that if they hadn't kept nerfing the payouts in order to get people to buy their cash cards in such a broken-ass game, people would feel a whole lot less tempted to cheat.

[SAVILLAIN]

game is perfect move on

[Brazilian Mermaid]

I guarantee you that if they hadn't kept nerfing the payouts in order to get people to buy their cash cards in such a broken-ass game, people would feel a whole lot less tempted to cheat.

Perfectly said.

[muhmuhhuh]

Possibly, to an extent.

 

It was happening before the nerfing began though. And no matter what game or indeed any aspect of life there will always be people who are selfish knobheads.

 

Its a pathetic excuse to blame the cash cards/ nerfing thing though. "Wahhh the game doesnt play how I want it to so im going to cheat." Really if the game doesnt play how they want it to the should just go and find another game and stop ruining it for others.

Edited December 25, 2013 by muhmuhhuh

[Brazilian Mermaid]

Possibly, to an extent.

 

It was happening before the nerfing began though. And no matter what game or indeed any aspect of life there will always be people who are selfish knobheads.

 

Its a pathetic excuse to blame the cash cards/ nerfing thing though. "Wahhh the game doesnt play how I want it to so im going to cheat." Really if the game doesnt play how they want it to the should just go and find another game and stop ruining it for others.

 

I just hope you don't think I'm a cheater, because I'm not. Anyways I'm talking about the hacks who give money to others.

Edited December 25, 2013 by ynashimitsu

[Stephen]

The Epsilon Program is behind it all.

[Themonsterhunter]

I guarantee you that if they hadn't kept nerfing the payouts in order to get people to buy their cash cards in such a broken-ass game, people would feel a whole lot less tempted to cheat.

While I don't agree with this, I'll try to understand from your point of view on this. Let's say that they did nerf payments and people were upset, okay, fair enough, but how exactly does that justify the godmode and making people go into debt? Both of which completely ruin the game for other players and not R*. Are you trying to say that because of R* nerfing payments( which I must add that they fixed the payment problem with 1.7) thay it is okay to godmode and making people go into debt by the billions?

Edited December 25, 2013 by Themonsterhunter

[blk95ta]

I think R*s actions of removing people's legit cars after 1.07 opened the floodgates. yes there were glitches but nothing as big as the hacks we have now. R can thank themselves for that. I know me personally, i was pretty legit until i lost my clean rebel that was taken for no reason.

[Pixel S]

I'd be willing to agree that glitching became more rampant than it would have because of the nerfing of payouts and raising prices of items, which was done to promote cash cards...

 

But hacking would have happened regardless.

O.P Question answered..

Hacking would happen even if cash never existed

Gta 4 had no cash other than in ranked and it got modded to death.

[Brazilian Mermaid]

 

I guarantee you that if they hadn't kept nerfing the payouts in order to get people to buy their cash cards in such a broken-ass game, people would feel a whole lot less tempted to cheat.

While I don't agree with this, I'll try to understand from your point of view on this. Let's say that they did nerf payments and people were upset, okay, fair enough, but how exactly does that justify the godmode and making people go into debt? Both of which completely ruin the game for other players and not R*. Are you trying to say that because of R* nerfing payments( which I must add that they fixed the payment problem with 1.7) thay it is okay to godmode and making people go into debt by the billions?

 

 

I was very specific, I'm talking about the hackers who give others money

[Mart1001]

"Do you think the cash cards are the reason for all this hacking?"

No, the hackers are the reason for all this hacking.