Better Call Saul!

[Jabalous]

Lalo is gonna Lalo. Did not imagine he'd fly to Germany to collect evidence that can lead him to Gus. What a show! 

[Donald Lov]

I like how they decided to play out Lalo's "death". Neither friends nor foes are aware of his condition. Yes, Gus has sniffed it out, but they still lack solid proof and operate according to Gus' intuition and gut feeling exclusively. 

[flow_42]

Oh I laughed at the 2 of them fighting it out. had a feeling saul would go down though, mr. ward got some "moves"

[Jabalous]

I've this idea that Lalo would get killed by Gus, or Gus's crew, and his body will be embedded in the superlab's wall/ground. In any case, I cannot see any other way for Lalo (death) since we know that at the final episodes of Breaking Bad, when Gus visits Hector, he says that all the Salamancas are dead. 

[Jabalous]

wow, that scene with Lalo chasing Werner's guy was so intense. First time seeing Lalo getting hit badly and in a position of weakness. For a short moment I thought that was going to be his end. I mean, what is the chance he runs out of luck and dies in Germany or gets captured? 

 

I'm not paying much attention to Kim's and Goodman's story with Howard. For me, the meat of this show is Gus vs. Lalo.

[Donald Lov]

So far, I can't see how ending Nacho's storyline early on was justified as we haven't progressed much since then. You'd think the whole thing is jam packed when a major character has to go 3 epsiodes in, but it's been constant slow burning ever since. Whatever they're cooking up, hope it's worth it. 

[TheSantader25]

I think the idea of wrapping Nacho's story early was good to focus on other characters. The problem is they haven't done much with it in the last 3 episodes. Feels like the events in the last 3 episodes could be concluded in one episode honestly. I hope they have massive stuff coming up. The biggest plus of BB/BCS for me has always been minimum filler episodes. Maybe they should have kept it a 10 episode season.

Edited May 19 by TheSantader25

[Failed Again]

2nd to the last ep. was a disappointment

[GRANDHEIST]

Whats the point of splitting the season to two parts, anyway?

 

A cliffhanger coming in the next ep? Or just some marketing thing to prolong the buzz?

Or is it because things got delayed because of Odenkirks heart attack?

 

 

EDIT: it's some Emmy eligibility thing:

"The split will allow Better Caul Saul to compete for Emmys both this year and in 2023, as eligibility for the latter begins in June"

Edited May 20 by GRANDHEIST

[flow_42]

1 hour ago, GRANDHEIST said:

Whats the point of splitting the season to two parts, anyway?

oh sh*t I forgot about that. how long is the wait after episode 7?

edit: thx for the link GRAND. 6 weeks.... *sighs*

Edited May 20 by flow_42

[Donald Lov]

Holy sh*t, now we're talking! I did expect a devastating end for the guy, but had no clue it was going to be that sudden! 

[TheSantader25]

On 5/19/2022 at 8:16 PM, TheSantader25 said:

I think the idea of wrapping Nacho's story early was good to focus on other characters. The problem is they haven't done much with it in the last 3 episodes. Feels like the events in the last 3 episodes could be concluded in one episode honestly. I hope they have massive stuff coming up. The biggest plus of BB/BCS for me has always been minimum filler episodes. Maybe they should have kept it a 10 episode season.

Ok everything is forgiven. Holy sh*t.

[Jabalous]

didn't expect Howard to go this way, lol. During the episode, I thought he might pass out and die, from a heart attack or something, but a silencer shot from Lalo at midnight in Jimmy's apartment? that was surprising. 

 

the suspense is going to be hard until July 11 (episode 8)...

 

 

and this one 

 

 

 

So what do you think Lalo want from Jimmy and Kim? I think he's going to force Jimmy to cooperate with him in bringing down Gus. Maybe though a legal case against Gus with the evidence that he gathered about the underground lab? that'd be smarter than using lethal force against an army of goons stationed at the industrial laundry. He know Gus is covered with eyes 24 hours and he stands no chance to reach him. He understands that he needs to play it smarter. If that is the case, then maybe Jimmy will snitch on him to Mike and that'd be it for Lalo.

 

(Lalo does not know that Mike and Jimmy know each other)

Edited May 24 by Jabalous

[Donald Lov]

1 hour ago, Jabalous said:

 

Maybe though a legal case against Gus with the evidence that he gathered about the underground lab? that'd be smarter than using lethal force against an army of goons stationed at the industrial laundry. 

 

 

But he gathered no evidence, didn't he? He wanted to, but got caught by Gus' wiretap while calling Hector. Now he has to make up a new plan.
I think, first of all, Lalo is going to go back to what happened in the desert and pressure Saul into revealing his connection with Mike. Since Mike hired his guys to follow Saul and Kim(a few episodes back he revealed that to Kim himself), he has to discover sooner or later that Lalo paid them a visit. This in turn will create an interesting dynamic with two extremely skillful mercenaries being in pursuit of each other. That's my superficial prediction.

Edited May 24 by Notorious_Jack

[Jabalous]

43 minutes ago, Notorious_Jack said:

But he gathered no evidence, didn't he? He wanted to, but got caught by Gus' wiretap while calling Hector. Now he has to make up a new plan.
I think, first of all, Lalo is going to go back to what happened in the desert and pressure Saul into revealing his connection with Mike. Since Mike hired his guys to follow Saul and Kim(a few episodes back he revealed that to Kim himself), he has to discover sooner or later that Lalo paid them a visit. This in turn will create an interesting dynamic with two extremely skillful mercenaries being in pursuit of each other. That's my superficial prediction.

 

yes, you're right. what's the chance that during this latest Lalo visit to Jimmy and Kim that Mike's guys are actually stationed outside in the parking lot seeing him paying them a visit? I'm not sure if these guys are tasked to watch Jimmy and Kim 24 hours.

[GRANDHEIST]

Hot damn,

 

in the beginning the episode age rating had "violence, substances, suicide" for some reason so I thought he would go different way

[flow_42]

On 5/24/2022 at 8:55 PM, Jabalous said:

I'm not sure if these guys are tasked to watch Jimmy and Kim 24 hours.

well maybe they were, but mike told gus at that school meeting that he has pulled most of his men from the minor important locations (something along those lines) and put most of them on gus' (trap) house. or maybe mike talked about his granddaughter's place.

 

anyways, lalo's surprise visit is under the radar I think and from here on in he'll raise hell and sh*t will hit the fan. howard was the 1st to go down!

*pew*

I guess jimmy can now go and grab his share of the sandpiper settlement without any trouble. friend of the cartel, with benefits!

Edited May 27 by flow_42

[Jabalous]

3 minutes ago, flow_42 said:

well maybe they were, but mike told gus at that school meeting that he has pulled most of his men from the minor important locations (something along those lines) and put most of them on gus' (trap) house. or maybe mike taked about his granddaughter's place.

 

yes, you're right. However, from my personal judgment, I'd not say that Jimmy and Kim are low priority, but maybe Mike misjudged or don't care if Lalo gets to them. 

[flow_42]

1 minute ago, Jabalous said:

 

yes, you're right. However, from my personal judgment, I'd not say that Jimmy and Kim are low priority, but maybe Mike misjudged or don't care if Lalo gets to them. 

yeah mike might have under-estimated jimmy's and lalo's relation-ship....but then again, what if, mike knew exactly that lalo would go and look for jimmy after he got caught on the wire? where-else would lalo go afterall? tuco is still in jail, seemingly no "friends" around on american soil, aside from kim and jimmy. mike could knowingly use them as bait to get to lalo afterall.

ah damn....the wait...6 weeks....tough one! god I will miss this show once it is over!

[Drimes]

Jimmy is definitely a goner in the end

[flow_42]

23 minutes ago, Drimes said:

Jimmy is definitely a goner in the end

you think Gene is gonna bite the dust?! hopefully that's NOT the case. I'm very curious to see the end of the black-and-white timeline, maybe he shakes off the echo, jumps over his shadow and gets to be himself again - simply jimmy!

[Drimes]

42 minutes ago, flow_42 said:

you think Gene is gonna bite the dust?! hopefully that's NOT the case. I'm very curious to see the end of the black-and-white timeline, maybe he shakes off the echo, jumps over his shadow and gets to be himself again - simply jimmy!

He's done too much bad sh*t. Helping criminals evade justice, tampered with legal documents that got Chuck fired from his own company and contributed to his suicide, assisting two meth cooks by giving them a bridge to a bigger production through Gus Fring, his impatience and amoral associations led to Howards death. There simply isn't a scenario where this guy gets to live for much longer

[flow_42]

2 hours ago, Drimes said:

He's done too much bad sh*t. Helping criminals evade justice, tampered with legal documents that got Chuck fired from his own company and contributed to his suicide, assisting two meth cooks by giving them a bridge to a bigger production through Gus Fring, his impatience and amoral associations led to Howards death. There simply isn't a scenario where this guy gets to live for much longer

well, chuck and howard brought it upon themselves, by not giving jimmy the chance/credit he deserved.

and he really helped the eldery people!

[GRANDHEIST]

A happy ending would be Jimmy and Kim reuniting somewhere in the black-and-white timeline

 

Kim's faith is still in question though...

[Drimes]

25 minutes ago, flow_42 said:

well, chuck and howard brought it upon themselves, by not giving jimmy the chance/credit he deserved.

and he really helped the eldery people!

Jimmy does not deserve to be a lawyer nor does he deserve any credit, because every accomplishment of his has been because of him breaking the rules. Chuck and Howard deserved to live peacefully, especially Howard. Howard was nothing but good and honest with Jimmy from the start. Chuck didn't want to hire Jimmy because he knows his brother always slides back to the Slippin' Jimmy way of life by cheating and scheming his way through everything. And don't forget that Jimmy used those elderly people to earn money, he manipulated the older ladies into practically exiling Irene from their group unless she complied with his terms that he manipulated the ladies into believing in. 

[Jabalous]

5 hours ago, Drimes said:

Jimmy is definitely a goner in the end

 

Maybe at the end he will kill himself (i.e. suicide) due to regret and the sh*tty reality he lives in the present. 

[Drimes]

38 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

 

Maybe at the end he will kill himself (i.e. suicide) due to regret and the sh*tty reality he lives in the present. 

Possibly. I think it's more possible that someone from his past ends up killing him

[flow_42]

17 hours ago, Drimes said:

Jimmy does not deserve to be a lawyer nor does he deserve any credit, because every accomplishment of his has been because of him breaking the rules. Chuck and Howard deserved to live peacefully, especially Howard. Howard was nothing but good and honest with Jimmy from the start. Chuck didn't want to hire Jimmy because he knows his brother always slides back to the Slippin' Jimmy way of life by cheating and scheming his way through everything. And don't forget that Jimmy used those elderly people to earn money, he manipulated the older ladies into practically exiling Irene from their group unless she complied with his terms that he manipulated the ladies into believing in. 

howard was nothing but a dick from the start. towards jimmy, and towards kim. and chuck was a dick aswell - both pretentious people who thought they were better than the rest. jimmy looked after chuck, took care of him and his special needs. that kind of devotion speaks volumes, that's jimmy showing true love for his brother. meanwhile chuck tried to keep him down every time. and he didn't even tell jimmy that the last words of their dying mother was asking for jimmy. f*ck chuck, and really, f*ck howard aswell.

 

yes jimmy did it for the cash, EVERY lawyer is in it for the money. regardless, jimmy was truly there for the elderly people, and he did patch that Irene situation.

[TheSantader25]

18 hours ago, Drimes said:

Jimmy does not deserve to be a lawyer nor does he deserve any credit, because every accomplishment of his has been because of him breaking the rules. Chuck and Howard deserved to live peacefully, especially Howard. Howard was nothing but good and honest with Jimmy from the start. Chuck didn't want to hire Jimmy because he knows his brother always slides back to the Slippin' Jimmy way of life by cheating and scheming his way through everything. And don't forget that Jimmy used those elderly people to earn money, he manipulated the older ladies into practically exiling Irene from their group unless she complied with his terms that he manipulated the ladies into believing in. 

Jimmy passed the bar and deserved to be a lawyer. If Chuck hadn't f*cked him over by degrading his accomplishments things could be different.

Edited May 29 by TheSantader25

[Drimes]

2 hours ago, flow_42 said:

howard was nothing but a dick from the start. towards jimmy, and towards kim. and chuck was a dick aswell - both pretentious people who thought they were better than the rest. jimmy looked after chuck, took care of him and his special needs. that kind of devotion speaks volumes, that's jimmy showing true love for his brother. meanwhile chuck tried to keep him down every time. and he didn't even tell jimmy that the last words of their dying mother was asking for jimmy. f*ck chuck, and really, f*ck howard aswell.

 

yes jimmy did it for the cash, EVERY lawyer is in it for the money. regardless, jimmy was truly there for the elderly people, and he did patch that Irene situation.

Howard was quite respectful to Jimmy a lot. However, I will agree with you about Chuck, he was a frustrating man to watch. But he also had his right to judge Jimmy considering he knows how Jimmy is. It is tragic how Jimmy cared for Chuck so much, but Chuck was very insecure and tried to keep Jimmy down in the mail room. I definitely agree with the dying mother statement, that right there was unforgivable. I apologize if I seem like a Chuck apologist and a Jimmy hater, it's quite opposite. I find both very entertaining, but the facts are the facts after all. 

 

2 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

Jimmy passed the bar and deserved to be a lawyer. If Chuck hadn't f*cked him over by degrading his accomplishments things could be different.

Chuck did not begin to try f*cking over Jimmy untill Jimmy decided he wanted to be a part of HHM. I do believe he was very proud when Jimmy got a job in the mailroom and so on. But due to Chucks overbearing finesse, pomposity and lack of charm and charisma that Jimmy has, he was really insecure and that along with Jimmys rule breaking tendencies were all factors that made him become hellbent on preventing a really bad outcome in his mind.