am30 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Well they can defend it. You're basing your opinion on a game that has not yet been completely released. Wait and see what 2014's DLC contains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zodape Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. Edited December 15, 2013 by Zodape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E•MO•TION Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". You will get a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin in a future paid DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17th Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Showing North Yankton postcard was one of their overhyping action. They are like EA - they care only about money. They only care about money... Mhmm, so that's why they're releasing free DLC they can easily charge for (Content Creator), not announcing a PC version yet, not announcing a next-gen version yet, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to release multiple patches when they could easily save money by waiting and bundling all the fixes together (EA), etc. Oh, and let's not forget the lack of Day-One DLC like most developers have now! Now, you were saying? Because they should create just 4 more features: 1. Better police AI 2. Gang wars for Franklin (endless, I mean other gangs should be able to exists even if they don't have any terrain) 3. Heists for Micheal (special website for monitoring every bank balance, and then planning heist for choosen bank) 4. Drug dealing for Trevor (go to your hideout for drugs, and then sold it for example in the hood. If you have small amount of drugs let's set up meeting with smugglers and buy more. Something might goes wrong for example police, or gang want to fool you etc) your action may affect whole game for example selling sh*tload of heroin on ballas terrain can weaken them, and then attacking them with Franklin will be much more easier. Or doing heist with Micheal can make police focusing on the bank, so you can switch to Trevor and buy sh*tload of drugs without police attention. Many possibilities, but no. Let's make yoga and tennis. Just 4 more features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfhuman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. You believed what you wanted to believe, Did it somewhere said in the trailer: 100 gang missions! No. And maybe if you watched more trailers then you know that you don't have to take everything serious. What was the theme of Trevor's trailer? Hillbilly. What was the theme of Micheal's trailer? Rich guy. What was the theme of Franklin's trailer? Gangster. Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". You will get a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin in a future paid DLC. Lol, this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E•MO•TION Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. You believed what you wanted to believe, Did it somewhere said in the trailer: 100 gang missions! No. And maybe if you watched more trailers then you know that you don't have to take everything serious. What was the theme of Trevor's trailer? Hillbilly. What was the theme of Micheal's trailer? Rich guy. What was the theme of Franklin's trailer? Gangster. Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". You will get a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin in a future paid DLC. Lol, this guy. Thank you for your constructive, well thought out post. Everyone now knows not to take you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. @ Zodape Thank you for explaining it to such a dumb, thick-skulled guy like Wolfhuman who does not really understand how certain things in this world are. Edited December 15, 2013 by Official General E•MO•TION 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Showing North Yankton postcard was one of their overhyping action. They are like EA - they care only about money. They only care about money... Mhmm, so that's why they're releasing free DLC they can easily charge for (Content Creator), not announcing a PC version yet, not announcing a next-gen version yet, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to release multiple patches when they could easily save money by waiting and bundling all the fixes together (EA), etc. Oh, and let's not forget the lack of Day-One DLC like most developers have now! Now, you were saying? Because they should create just 4 more features: 1. Better police AI 2. Gang wars for Franklin (endless, I mean other gangs should be able to exists even if they don't have any terrain) 3. Heists for Micheal (special website for monitoring every bank balance, and then planning heist for choosen bank) 4. Drug dealing for Trevor (go to your hideout for drugs, and then sold it for example in the hood. If you have small amount of drugs let's set up meeting with smugglers and buy more. Something might goes wrong for example police, or gang want to fool you etc) your action may affect whole game for example selling sh*tload of heroin on ballas terrain can weaken them, and then attacking them with Franklin will be much more easier. Or doing heist with Micheal can make police focusing on the bank, so you can switch to Trevor and buy sh*tload of drugs without police attention. Many possibilities, but no. Let's make yoga and tennis. Just 4 more features. That's fine, and those features would be lovely to have in the game, but I don't know how some features that are missing, but would be awesome to have, mean they only care about money... And just like GTA 4, you can make your own gang wars. Go to Ballas territory and shoot one of them, you'll soon have an onslaught of red dots coming at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The drug wars are most likely going to be for Trevor, if they're going to be in a DLC. Franklin wants to be done with that gang stuff, but Trevor is the opposite, as is Lemar. Also, if the wars are for Trevor, it can cover the entirety of LS and Blaine County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17th Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Showing North Yankton postcard was one of their overhyping action. They are like EA - they care only about money. They only care about money... Mhmm, so that's why they're releasing free DLC they can easily charge for (Content Creator), not announcing a PC version yet, not announcing a next-gen version yet, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to release multiple patches when they could easily save money by waiting and bundling all the fixes together (EA), etc. Oh, and let's not forget the lack of Day-One DLC like most developers have now! Now, you were saying? Because they should create just 4 more features: 1. Better police AI 2. Gang wars for Franklin (endless, I mean other gangs should be able to exists even if they don't have any terrain) 3. Heists for Micheal (special website for monitoring every bank balance, and then planning heist for choosen bank) 4. Drug dealing for Trevor (go to your hideout for drugs, and then sold it for example in the hood. If you have small amount of drugs let's set up meeting with smugglers and buy more. Something might goes wrong for example police, or gang want to fool you etc) your action may affect whole game for example selling sh*tload of heroin on ballas terrain can weaken them, and then attacking them with Franklin will be much more easier. Or doing heist with Micheal can make police focusing on the bank, so you can switch to Trevor and buy sh*tload of drugs without police attention. Many possibilities, but no. Let's make yoga and tennis. Just 4 more features. That's fine, and those features would be lovely to have in the game, but I don't know how some features that are missing, but would be awesome to have, mean they only care about money... And just like GTA 4, you can make your own gang wars. Go to Ballas territory and shoot one of them, you'll soon have an onslaught of red dots coming at you. Yeah, and they will kill me in few seconds. And no one will help me. And I won't see any random gang shootouts. And gangsters are agressive only to me. They care only about money because they talked about heists (for example) like about something very big and complex in the game. And it's just few heists for whole of the game (very ambitious of course...), and planning is just choosing one of two scripted scenarios. Or showing Franklin in green while he was shooting to the ballas so everyone thought that gang wars are in the game. But no. It was nothing else than overyhyping game. Why? Because they knew that everyone want gang wars but they don't include it. And much more, but I talked about it many many times. @up, yes Franklin don't want to be in gang, but at the same time he killing everyone on the street with minigun. Seems legit This is sandbox, so let player do whatever he want. Edited December 15, 2013 by 17th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zodape Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. You believed what you wanted to believe, Did it somewhere said in the trailer: 100 gang missions! No. And maybe if you watched more trailers then you know that you don't have to take everything serious. What was the theme of Trevor's trailer? Hillbilly. What was the theme of Micheal's trailer? Rich guy. What was the theme of Franklin's trailer? Gangster. Dude, the trailer had gangster sh*t all over the place. You don't need big white letters telling you that Franklin's story is gonna have a lot of gangster stuff when the trailer clearly tells you that, since it's the only thing that shows you about Franklin, therefore, you expect that he is gonna have a lot of gangster activities/missions. If you gave me a pie, and I ate it, and I realised that it's not a pie but actually a big piece of vanilla ice cream that you crafted and coloured to make it look like a pie, then it's not my fault. You made me think it was a pie. Trevor's and Michael's trailers delivered what they promised. Franklin's didn't. And sorry, I don't understand the part you tell me that I don't have to take everything serious. I really don't know what you meant there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) @ Masterocker I don't think overhyped is the word. Franklins trailer was absolutely implied to gang stuff though. I'd say implied over overhyped. The implication led to the overhype. This does not really make sense. I'm not sure if your are just trying to be a bit too clever for your own good, but if you are, it's not working. This is not a competition of who is the smartest, or who is the most right or wrong. Sometimes it's just easier to accept things in a debate/argument that can't be refuted. Any reasonable-thinking person can see that Rockstar overhyped Franklin's trailer to include lots of gang action. There is really nothing else to add to that. And just like GTA 4, you can make your own gang wars. Go to Ballas territory and shoot one of them, you'll soon have an onslaught of red dots coming at you. Most people know that by now, but that is not really the point. You can do that in all GTA games, go to any gang member in the street, attack them and they all come shooting at you. Going on a one-man army, homicidal rampage against gang members is not really a gang war. On top of that, there is no strategic meaning behind it or end purpose to it, so it makes something like that feel even more reptitive and tedious. People who wanted gang wars are not interesting 'making their own gang wars' in such fashion. Gang wars that involve a continuous set of side missions where they can be fought for turf, drug sales, or a power struggle, maybe even recruit gang members to hep you in a gang war, something with substance is what many fans of this feature would have loved to see. Edited December 15, 2013 by Official General Mr. New Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. New Vegas Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I wasn't overhyped. I watched the three character trailers and that was it, read no previews, avoided all the YT vids (infact I had to unsub from a good few channels). I'm not disappointed in GTA V because it was overhyped, I'm disappointed because the story was pish and it didn't 'feel' like a GTA game. I know that sounds stupid but the world didn't feel real or something. There was just far too many little things that didn't sit right for me. Technically, the game's 'amazing' and massive... but where's the substance? Everything honestly felt half-arsed and to me it shows when playing. Rockstar were too ambitious and obviously went for quantity over quality. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. You believed what you wanted to believe, Did it somewhere said in the trailer: 100 gang missions! No. And maybe if you watched more trailers then you know that you don't have to take everything serious. What was the theme of Trevor's trailer? Hillbilly. What was the theme of Micheal's trailer? Rich guy. What was the theme of Franklin's trailer? Gangster. Dude, the trailer had gangster sh*t all over the place. You don't need big white letters telling you that Franklin's story is gonna have a lot of gangster stuff when the trailer clearly tells you that, since it's the only thing that shows you about Franklin, therefore, you expect that he is gonna have a lot of gangster activities/missions. If you gave me a pie, and I ate it, and I realised that it's not a pie but actually a big piece of vanilla ice cream that you crafted and coloured to make it look like a pie, then it's not my fault. You made me think it was a pie. Trevor's and Michael's trailers delivered what they promised. Franklin's didn't. And sorry, I don't understand the part you tell me that I don't have to take everything serious. I really don't know what you meant there. @ Wolfuman Seriously bro, are you really that dumb ?? You gonna defend Rockstar to the death in the flying face of all concrete evidence that they overhyped the gang action in Franklin's trailer ? You really need to stop, because you sound more and more stupid each time you talk. And I'm getting the idea that you don't even know what the f**k you are saying in general either. Is English your first language ? (serious question). Edited December 15, 2013 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfhuman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 @2281 Thanks for being repetitive, "DLC that blah blah". You are playing a game from a company that you probably dislike. Why should i take you serious? Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. @ Zodape Thank you for explaining it to such dumb, thick-skulled guy like Wolfhuman. Go play GTA san andreas to fill up your nostalgia instead of crying, hating and making the same repetitive posts. Every time you login you are probably thinking about the hate tirade that you are going to give. Congrats, dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Showing North Yankton postcard was one of their overhyping action. They are like EA - they care only about money. They only care about money... Mhmm, so that's why they're releasing free DLC they can easily charge for (Content Creator), not announcing a PC version yet, not announcing a next-gen version yet, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to release multiple patches when they could easily save money by waiting and bundling all the fixes together (EA), etc. Oh, and let's not forget the lack of Day-One DLC like most developers have now! Now, you were saying? Because they should create just 4 more features: 1. Better police AI 2. Gang wars for Franklin (endless, I mean other gangs should be able to exists even if they don't have any terrain) 3. Heists for Micheal (special website for monitoring every bank balance, and then planning heist for choosen bank) 4. Drug dealing for Trevor (go to your hideout for drugs, and then sold it for example in the hood. If you have small amount of drugs let's set up meeting with smugglers and buy more. Something might goes wrong for example police, or gang want to fool you etc) your action may affect whole game for example selling sh*tload of heroin on ballas terrain can weaken them, and then attacking them with Franklin will be much more easier. Or doing heist with Micheal can make police focusing on the bank, so you can switch to Trevor and buy sh*tload of drugs without police attention. Many possibilities, but no. Let's make yoga and tennis. Just 4 more features. That's fine, and those features would be lovely to have in the game, but I don't know how some features that are missing, but would be awesome to have, mean they only care about money... And just like GTA 4, you can make your own gang wars. Go to Ballas territory and shoot one of them, you'll soon have an onslaught of red dots coming at you. Yeah, and they will kill me in few seconds. And no one will help me. And I won't see any random gang shootouts. And gangsters are agressive only to me. They care only about money because they talked about heists (for example) like about something very big and complex in the game. And it's just few heists for whole of the game (very ambitious of course...), and planning is just choosing one of two scripted scenarios. Or showing Franklin in green while he was shooting to the ballas so everyone thought that gang wars are in the game. But no. It was nothing else than overyhyping game. Why? Because they knew that everyone want gang wars but they don't include it. And much more, but I talked about it many many times. @up, yes Franklin don't want to be in gang, but at the same time he killing everyone on the street with minigun. Seems legit This is sandbox, so let player do whatever he want. "Yeah, and they will kill me in few seconds. And no one will help me. And I won't see any random gang shootouts. And gangsters are agressive only to me." If they kill you in only a few seconds, you need to find some cover dude And if you want help, just call the cops and have them have a shootout with the gang members. That was fun t do in GTA 4. Random gang shootouts weren't in GTA 4 either. Wouldn't they be aggressive to cops too, because they'd be shooting? Or did they change it? "They care only about money because they talked about heists (for example) like about something very big and complex in the game." They said the story revolved around heists, and it did. "and planning is just choosing one of two scripted scenarios." Planning is also choosing the people you work with. Deciding whether you gonna go cheap and inexperienced or expensive and professional. "Or showing Franklin in green while he was shooting to the ballas so everyone thought that gang wars are in the game. But no. It was nothing else than overyhyping game. Why? Because they knew that everyone want gang wars but they don't include it." I wouldn't go as far as to say that they showed Franklin like that in the trailers to insinuate gang wars, but they sure as hell made it look like gangs were gonna be a much more prominent role than what they really were. And I don't think everyone wanted gang wars. They sucked in SA. But, yes, gang wars would've been cool to have. Official: What I was saying is that R* more implied gang stuff with Franklin's trailer, which led to hype from fans. Basically the same thing as R* 'overhyping' it, but I just say it a different way, since their implication led to the overhype. Edited December 15, 2013 by TheMasterfocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proletariat Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I wasn't overhyped. I watched the three character trailers and that was it, read no previews, avoided all the YT vids (infact I had to unsub from a good few channels). I'm not disappointed in GTA V because it was overhyped, I'm disappointed because the story was pish and it didn't 'feel' like a GTA game. I know that sounds stupid but the world didn't feel real or something. There was just far too many little things that didn't sit right for me. Technically, the game's 'amazing' and massive... but where's the substance? Everything honestly felt half-arsed and to me it shows when playing. Rockstar were too ambitious and obviously went for quantity over quality. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. What do you mean? I loved the story and dialogue! It was thought-provoking yet comedical at the same time. I don't get why people think the story has no substance. I mean GTA Vice City is my favorite, but GTA V was damn better than IV and San Andreas. Go to the GTA mapping thread. The world is very real I can assure you. How is everything half-assed? You want to try to make a video game? Half-assed isn't critique, that's just trash talk. Real critique is constructive criticism. For example, GTA V could have used a lot more mission or GTneds more side activities. I fail to see how GTA V is half-assed. I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade Dynamite Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You guys want a straight-up pure example of R* themselves overhyping their own game? Look no further: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proletariat Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) @Spectre? What did they overhype? Really, only idiots were hyped up for online. R* delivered whatever they said. Just because it doesn't meet your standards doesn't GTA V sucks. Edited December 15, 2013 by Proletariat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfhuman Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. You believed what you wanted to believe, Did it somewhere said in the trailer: 100 gang missions! No. And maybe if you watched more trailers then you know that you don't have to take everything serious. What was the theme of Trevor's trailer? Hillbilly. What was the theme of Micheal's trailer? Rich guy. What was the theme of Franklin's trailer? Gangster. Dude, the trailer had gangster sh*t all over the place. You don't need big white letters telling you that Franklin's story is gonna have a lot of gangster stuff when the trailer clearly tells you that, since it's the only thing that shows you about Franklin, therefore, you expect that he is gonna have a lot of gangster activities/missions. If you gave me a pie, and I ate it, and I realised that it's not a pie but actually a big piece of vanilla ice cream that you crafted and coloured to make it look like a pie, then it's not my fault. You made me think it was a pie. Trevor's and Michael's trailers delivered what they promised. Franklin's didn't. And sorry, I don't understand the part you tell me that I don't have to take everything serious. I really don't know what you meant there. @ Wolfuman Seriously bro, are you really that dumb ?? You gonna defend Rockstar to the death in the flying face of all concrete evidence that they overhyped the gang action in Franklin's trailer ? You really need to stop, because you sound more and more stupid each time you talk. And I'm getting the idea that you don't even know what the f**k you are saying in general either. Is English your first language ? (serious question). You made two posts to call me dumb, i feel privileged. Get over with the fact did you make your self hype and did you make your self believe what the trailer is about and then crying because it didn't meet your expectations.. lmao, look at your damn self. Crying about the things you don't have, crying about the things that aren't in the game. Man up, instead of posting the same old repetitive posts. Well now you seem be really upset if you are targeting my type ability. I know what i am typing. Is English your first language? You seem to type some word with: **, symbol in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. New Vegas Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I wasn't overhyped. I watched the three character trailers and that was it, read no previews, avoided all the YT vids (infact I had to unsub from a good few channels). I'm not disappointed in GTA V because it was overhyped, I'm disappointed because the story was pish and it didn't 'feel' like a GTA game. I know that sounds stupid but the world didn't feel real or something. There was just far too many little things that didn't sit right for me. Technically, the game's 'amazing' and massive... but where's the substance? Everything honestly felt half-arsed and to me it shows when playing. Rockstar were too ambitious and obviously went for quantity over quality. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. What do you mean? I loved the story and dialogue! It was thought-provoking yet comedical at the same time. I don't get why people think the story has no substance. I mean GTA Vice City is my favorite, but GTA V was damn better than IV and San Andreas. Go to the GTA mapping thread. The world is very real I can assure you. How is everything half-assed? You want to try to make a video game? Half-assed isn't critique, that's just trash talk. Real critique is constructive criticism. For example, GTA V could have used a lot more mission or GTneds more side activities. I fail to see how GTA V is half-assed. I really do. Sorry, it's cause I've went into detail in other threads and don't want to ramble on. The story I suppose is down to opinion but I really didn't enjoy it, the dialogue and script however were brilliant, pure quality there. I don't mean to cop-out here but I genuinely can't explain how the world didn't feel real, like, it just felt constructed and only 'alive' when the player makes it alive. What I mean by half-arsed is that despite there being a various amount of side-activities/missions, there wasn't a lot of depth, this is were I think less is more comes in handy. Proletariat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am30 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You guys want a straight-up pure example of R* themselves overhyping their own game? Look no further: So where's the overhyping? I've done all those thing in the game. The advertising is no different in anyway shape or form to any other big brand game. That just proves the overhyping by some gamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E•MO•TION Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) @2281 Thanks for being repetitive, "DLC that blah blah". You are playing a game from a company that you probably dislike. Why should i take you serious? I never stated that I disliked Rockstar. I dislike their current practices regarding DLC which are all thanks to people such as yourself. Every single time someone suggests that Rockstar cut content from GTA V, you reply with "prove it." Until the single player DLC is released in the new year, there is really no way of telling if it was cut content or not so I'll give you that. However, when you consider past practices such as L.A. Noire and Max Payne 3, I believe it is pretty reasonable to conclude that Rockstar has cut content from GTA V - that along with evidence in game, such as Rockford Plaza which appears to have an interior. Anyway, let's look at the past and take L.A. Noire as an example. You cannot possibly tell me Rockstar did not cut out the five cases that were later put up as DLC and afterwards released as part of L.A. Noire: The Complete Edition. The characters, case structure, dialogue all suggest that they were cut that be sold back. It's pathetic really. Edited December 15, 2013 by 2281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade Dynamite Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You guys want a straight-up pure example of R* themselves overhyping their own game? Look no further: So where's the overhyping? I've done all those thing in the game. The advertising is no different in anyway shape or form to any other big brand game. That just proves the overhyping by some gamers. They said it would "Bring the FREEDOM of the Grand Theft Auto experience online". More like all the "freedom" of the Soviet Union ruled under Stalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proletariat Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Franklin's trailer. Pure gangsta sh*t, we ended up with three missions. Of course, they said that the story was focused around heists, but if you look at Franklins trailer you would expect a lot of gangster crap going on. Nope, three missions and that's it. They should have focused his trailer on something else rather than being a gangster. Indeed This one thing the Rockstar Defence Force cannot deny. That sh*t was definitely overhyped, no question about it. I can still remember being filled with crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement watching that trailer. The trailer was to make his persona stand out more or to paint his persona out. What else did you wanted to see? Franklin with them hillbillies? "Reeeeeal Hilbbily type of S". That's right, who caused the crazy amounts of adrenaline and excitement? You. I was not hyped about gangster stuff because I couldn't care less about it, but the trailer made you expect to have a considerable amount of gangster action with Franklin, because his trailer was only about that. Of course, we got what we saw in the trailer, but in only 3 missions, which is a bit misleading because the trailer clearly implied "Look at Franklin! He is so gangsta and he does a lot of gangsta stuff. You will have a lot of gangsta fun with gangsta Franklin!". Franklin's story was more about being Trevor's and Michael's bitch. Just standing there being the boring f*ck he is. Of course, they are not gonna be honest and make a trailer about Franklin being a boring dick, so they are just gonna lie to you and tell you he is a badass gangbanger. So this was only Rockstar's fault. You believed what you wanted to believe, Did it somewhere said in the trailer: 100 gang missions! No. And maybe if you watched more trailers then you know that you don't have to take everything serious. What was the theme of Trevor's trailer? Hillbilly. What was the theme of Micheal's trailer? Rich guy. What was the theme of Franklin's trailer? Gangster. Dude, the trailer had gangster sh*t all over the place. You don't need big white letters telling you that Franklin's story is gonna have a lot of gangster stuff when the trailer clearly tells you that, since it's the only thing that shows you about Franklin, therefore, you expect that he is gonna have a lot of gangster activities/missions. If you gave me a pie, and I ate it, and I realised that it's not a pie but actually a big piece of vanilla ice cream that you crafted and coloured to make it look like a pie, then it's not my fault. You made me think it was a pie. Trevor's and Michael's trailers delivered what they promised. Franklin's didn't. And sorry, I don't understand the part you tell me that I don't have to take everything serious. I really don't know what you meant there. @ Wolfuman Seriously bro, are you really that dumb ?? You gonna defend Rockstar to the death in the flying face of all concrete evidence that they overhyped the gang action in Franklin's trailer ? You really need to stop, because you sound more and more stupid each time you talk. And I'm getting the idea that you don't even know what the f**k you are saying in general either. Is English your first language ? (serious question). Actually, you thought that just because Franklin was black, you'd get a gangster. Even in the trailers, Franklin was deriding the gangbanger lifestyle. Rockstar even said he was trying to get out of the hood. If anone interprets that as Franlkin or R* overhyping gan related activities, then they must be the stupidest motherf*ckers on the planet. You throw around words that have no meaning. "defend Rockstar to the death in the flying face of all concrete evidence that they overhyped the gang action in Franklin's trailer " lol yeah right. Just cause you wanted a black gangster (don't know why anyone would), don't let it dilute your interpretation of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Official: What I was saying is that R* more implied gang stuff with Franklin's trailer, which led to hype from fans. Basically the same thing as R* 'overhyping' it, but I just say it a different way, since their implication led to the overhype. @ Masterfocker Okay, fine. It more or less matches with what I'm saying, so I'm fine with that. @ Wolfhuman I called you dumb because the truth is, you are acting dumb and ignorant and you are making dumb-sounding statements that don't really make much sense. Look at what you said to Zodape, even he thought you were a bit bonkers. Cut that all out, and we can start afresh. Edited December 15, 2013 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am30 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You guys want a straight-up pure example of R* themselves overhyping their own game? Look no further: So where's the overhyping? I've done all those thing in the game. The advertising is no different in anyway shape or form to any other big brand game. That just proves the overhyping by some gamers. They said it would "Bring the FREEDOM of the Grand Theft Auto experience online". More like all the "freedom" of the Soviet Union ruled under Stalin. So you speak from experience I take it of living in the Soviet Union under Stalin? I mean what sort of freedom do you want? Geralt of Rivia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proletariat Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I wasn't overhyped. I watched the three character trailers and that was it, read no previews, avoided all the YT vids (infact I had to unsub from a good few channels). I'm not disappointed in GTA V because it was overhyped, I'm disappointed because the story was pish and it didn't 'feel' like a GTA game. I know that sounds stupid but the world didn't feel real or something. There was just far too many little things that didn't sit right for me. Technically, the game's 'amazing' and massive... but where's the substance? Everything honestly felt half-arsed and to me it shows when playing. Rockstar were too ambitious and obviously went for quantity over quality. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. What do you mean? I loved the story and dialogue! It was thought-provoking yet comedical at the same time. I don't get why people think the story has no substance. I mean GTA Vice City is my favorite, but GTA V was damn better than IV and San Andreas. Go to the GTA mapping thread. The world is very real I can assure you. How is everything half-assed? You want to try to make a video game? Half-assed isn't critique, that's just trash talk. Real critique is constructive criticism. For example, GTA V could have used a lot more mission or GTneds more side activities. I fail to see how GTA V is half-assed. I really do. Sorry, it's cause I've went into detail in other threads and don't want to ramble on. The story I suppose is down to opinion but I really didn't enjoy it, the dialogue and script however were brilliant, pure quality there. I don't mean to cop-out here but I genuinely can't explain how the world didn't feel real, like, it just felt constructed and only 'alive' when the player makes it alive. What I mean by half-arsed is that despite there being a various amount of side-activities/missions, there wasn't a lot of depth, this is were I think less is more comes in handy. I agree, GTA V needs ALOT more side missions and actual storyline missions. I'm not a MP plater, so far a SP player like me, it leaves me hanging. As you said, story is down to opinion and I respect your opinion, but personally I loved the intertwining of the three stories. I though it was executed beautifully. I guess it doesn't have that much depth because there weren't that many storyline missions. Mr. New Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 They said it would "Bring the FREEDOM of the Grand Theft Auto experience online". More like all the "freedom" of the Soviet Union ruled under Stalin. No, that pretty much describes it; there's a lot to do, and you've got all this freedom to choose how you do it, but there's another 15 people in the same world with the same freedom. Also, that Soviet Union analogy made no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade Dynamite Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You guys want a straight-up pure example of R* themselves overhyping their own game? Look no further: So where's the overhyping? I've done all those thing in the game. The advertising is no different in anyway shape or form to any other big brand game. That just proves the overhyping by some gamers. They said it would "Bring the FREEDOM of the Grand Theft Auto experience online". More like all the "freedom" of the Soviet Union ruled under Stalin. So you speak from experience I take it of living in the Soviet Union under Stalin? I mean what sort of freedom do you want? I want to own the vehicles I want and played completely legitimately to get with R* decided to take them away (ie steal) them without warning or recompense, saying that it's "utility" vehicle (when it isn't), or it's an "SP" vehicle despite being in multiplayer from the very start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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