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Franklin VS. CJ


Broom__Handles

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My vote goes to CJ of course. Here's why...


CJ was a much bigger gang banger than Franklin is. CJ single handily took over ALL of the gang territories in Los Santos including the Ballas and the Vagos. He fought against the Chinese mafias and double crossed the F.I.B. Not to forget he stole a $100,000,000 dollar jet-pack from a heavily armed, and secret top government base.

Franklin has done NOTHING for his gang besides going on two missions with Lamar which backfired horribly. He is Micheal's bitch. Micheal left him to die in a burning building without batting an eye. The only purpose of Franklin was to help keep Micheal and Trevor from killing each other. He hasn't accplished much on his own. Without Micheal or Trevor there to help him, where would he be.

 

And don't even bring in Franklin's driving. CJ beat Claude in a race.

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Of course...The story also doesn't revolve around one character this time.

 

CJ was cool, for his time; but this is a new time and a new era that will more than likely bring more memorable characters to Grand Theft Auto and just like the first time...It is going to take a bit.

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All the protagonists in all the games are equally swell and would all be really food friends have cool Times all the times and there'd be no fighting. Just being all cool and having guns and cars and stuff.

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OP, you and i know that CJ is the king. Oh and damn right he stole a million dollar project from area 51 and is flying with it in the streets to fight gangs. CJ owns Franklin.

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gee i wonder what the connection is here

The connection is that they are apart of Grove street gang. Why do you think I'm comparing them. If I wanted to see who was the best black character, I would include the Vance brothers and Luis (I think he's half black)

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I still like Franklin better. Nothing will change my opinion on CJ being an overrated protagonist personality-wise.

OVERRATED?! Please! Who had a better story and did bigger and badder things than CJ. You can only really compare him to Tommy from Vice City and Trevor.

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"lore"-based: CJ

- Franklin robbed a few places with a posse. CJ took over a freaking state mostly by himself.

game-mechanics-based: CJ

- Franklin dies from a few bullets. CJ doesn't die from an infinite fall if his health is maxed out.

 

Likeability: ehhh... neither. I thought CJ was too whinny and Franklin was such a damn mood-kiler who couldn't take a joke.

 

Actually, scratch that, I liked fat CJ.

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All the protagonists in all the games are equally swell and would all be really food friends have cool Times all the times and there'd be no fighting. Just being all cool and having guns and cars and stuff.

Doubt it. It would prolly be something like this.

grand_theft_auto_legends_2012_by_patrick

 

OT: For me personally, I prefer CJ over Frank. He has a whole slew of funny one liners whereas Franklin is just Xzibit with a few bitches and asses thrown in.

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^^^
Dude, TREVOR KILLED JOHNNY REMEMBER!

 

NONE of them would get along except Micheal, Franklin, and Trevor. And even they might end up killed each other.

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The picture was made before GTA V came out.

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Once again there is an OP who can't understand that FRANKLIN WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE A STUPID ASS GANGBANGER. Franklin is in fact what CJ WANTED TO BE.

How many times did CJ whine troughout the story about wanting to make something better out of himself, and yet he forever remained in that dirty old house, in the dirty old dead end street (which is a good metaphor for his life - a dead end) just because his even more stupid brother wanted to ''keep it real''.

On the other side there is Franklin who said he wanted more, wanted to get away from stupid people.. and he did. The best scene in the whole game is Franklin giving Lamar a few bucks. Just shows who chose the right path. Same goes for CJ, he'd end up dead thanks to his keepin-it-OG-Groove-Street-4-life-homie brother.

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Once again there is an OP who can't understand that FRANKLIN WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE A STUPID ASS GANGBANGER. Franklin is in fact what CJ WANTED TO BE.

 

How many times did CJ whine troughout the story about wanting to make something better out of himself, and yet he forever remained in that dirty old house, in the dirty old dead end street (which is a good metaphor for his life - a dead end) just because his even more stupid brother wanted to ''keep it real''.

On the other side there is Franklin who said he wanted more, wanted to get away from stupid people.. and he did. The best scene in the whole game is Franklin giving Lamar a few bucks. Just shows who chose the right path. Same goes for CJ, he'd end up dead thanks to his keepin-it-OG-Groove-Street-4-life-homie brother.

 

Okay...fair point. CJ was peer pressured into becoming a gang banger while Franklin got away from it all and made millions with just three of his friends (if you count Lester). CJ still has one of the coolest stories though.That's my ultimate point. He would wreck Franklin. Don't bother calling me a fan-boy either. Just stating facts.

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Hmm? When did Michael leave Franklin to die in a burning building?

It was a heist mission. You had to choose between too missions. In that mission. Micheal leaves Franklin! Micheal is a selfish bastard.

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If I wanted to see who was the best black character, I would include the Vance brothers and Luis (I think he's half black)

Actually, Luis is 100% Dominican and the Vance brothers were Dominican-American. (Dominican father, white mother). Neither of them are black. lol

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Franklin. Unlike CJ, Franklin actually set out and achieved his goal of wanting to leave the ghetto.

 

CJ was stupid, naïve and easily lead on. While I think Franklin is pretty shallow he's the more likeable of the two.

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cj broke into a f*cking military base to steal a jetpack, which makes him strong

however, cj was also scared of a paper bag over his head, which makes him a pussy.

 

and franklin is bland as a character, IMO. i think they're tied

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CJ. Although the plot kept jumping around and wasn't consistant, he did some awesome sh*t like rob a casino with a blind man, stole a jetpack, stole a military jet and other things.

 

Franklin just follows Michael and Trevor like a shadow, he would be a nice character if he organized events himself.

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I still like Franklin better. Nothing will change my opinion on CJ being an overrated protagonist personality-wise.

OVERRATED?! Please! Who had a better story and did bigger and badder things than CJ. You can only really compare him to Tommy from Vice City and Trevor.

 

 

And Niko bellic. CJ was a whiny git and did things which were not even part of his objective.

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CJ would win. His missions are almost as hardcore as Trevor's, which tells he is really capable of doing anything. The fact he is a whiny little bitch doesn't mean he is weak.

 

Edit: actually, we cannot tell who would actually win in a fight since the context could be anything. We can determine who has more chances of coming out alive by comparing both, so I think CJ has the advantage, but we will never be able to determine the winner.

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When did CJ double-cross the FIB?

 

Also, the fire thing wasn't abandonment.

 

 

1) The building was collapsing around them and blowing up. They weren't looking behind to make sure everyone was still with them.

2) They were attacked not long after Franklin fell unconscious.

3) When Franklin woke up Michael was yelling: "Frank? Frank? You alive?" (Direct from the subtitles) Michael has no way to know whether he is alive or not.

 

It's far more likely that they got to the floor below after dealing with some of those FIB agents and realized Franklin wasn't with them. Michael called out and Franklin responded. If he really abandoned him to die they wouldn't have been calling out for him.

 

 

 

Anyway, I'd have to say Franklin because CJ was more irritating to me than Franklin was. Neither would be high on my favorite characters list though.

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