TheGodDamnMaster Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Seriously, he was great and i am proud of having lived the same day he did. RIP I can't tell if that was a misquote on purpose or not. It was some prank that stemmed from a /b/ thread. They wanted to trick people into thinking quotes from Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden and other undesirables were the words of Mandela. Shoumaker 1 Intel Core i9-9900k | Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750W | 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHzMSI GeForce RTX2070 | WD Blue 1TB HDD | Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512GBAntec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower | MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Seriously, he was great and i am proud of having lived the same day he did. RIP I can't tell if that was a misquote on purpose or not. It was some prank that stemmed from a /b/ thread. They wanted to trick people into thinking quotes from Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden and other undesirables were the words of Mandela. Oh those jokers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherokee3 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Respect from China He died in peace, reminds me of Paul Walker, sigh He had some controversies, such as he didn't achieve much on economy, failed to respond to rising AIDS patients and crime rate, and so on But he is a true hero A revolution but without liquidation but peace and forgiving, he broke the apartheid People will always remember him as an idol R.I.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGTAGamer Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 When my brother told me the news of Mandela's passing, to be truthful I wasn't surprised, I knew what with all his recent health complications he would soon pass away. At least he passed away peacefully, and at quite an old age as well. Rest In Peace Mr. Mandela, you were an inspiration to many, including me, and you will surely never be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kippers Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) A man who set his life aside to achieve freedom. He, like everyone, had one chance at life. He could have done anything and pissed it away like the average Joe, and just put up with how things were, but he dedicated it to fighting a cause. Using your life to better other peoples is an incredible mindset. I couldn't imagine making those sacrifices, I'm far too selfish in that respect. R.I.P Edited December 6, 2013 by Kippers 習うより慣れろ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 He always reminded me a great deal of George Washington. In that he came to power and had the very real potential to create a tyranny if he had desired it, yet truly believed in democracy. There are few leaders who show such force of character. I have heard many detractors label him a terrorist, not even waiting for his body to cool before they begin to lambaste him. It's true he fought against the government of South Africa, and it's also true that because of him, people died. Yet he cannot be considered a terrorist. Why? Because he succeeded. A terrorist is defined as such by their failure, yet Mandella won his war and has been shown to have been fighting on the right side of history. There are no successful terrorists. I'm not too saddened by his passing, because I never understood how such a quiet, introspective fellow could inspire such passion. I do not feel that he used his power in the most productive, efficient way. Yet I acknowledge that the man acted according to his conscience and think no less of him for it. D- Ice, Finn 7 five 11 and Kippers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display_0 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I don't understand this shock that people seem to be in. He was 95 and he died peacefully of old age. It's not like he had a life ahead of him and a glorious future. He's done his part a long time ago. I respect him enough to honestly say that I really don't care that he died. I'm not trying to be an asshole. He was an old man. There's nothing shocking or sad about a 95 year old passing away regardless of who it is. And you know that so just stop with the crocodile tears. Nobody is "Shocked". Do you expect the world to be like "Oh btw dat Nelson Mandela dude died recentely I herd he did sum good stuf so yh" There is nothing strange about this. When any famous person dies, it gets covered. When someone who has changed the world forever dies, yeah, it's gonna get covered, and some people will be sad. We are are not crying, we are remembering. When someone dies, that is the time to pay respect for the last time before saying good bye. Nobody cries today about WWII, but we still remember. Edited December 7, 2013 by haythem09 JustOneMonth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 So for some of the younger members here...remember this day because at some point in the future you will feel great pride when you tell your children or grandchildren that you lived at the same time Mandela did. And they'll be like "whatever dad, i don't really care". Ha...True. But really, not every generation gets to experience such a historic person like Mandela. My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt_yao Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 RIP Nelson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson,_1st_Viscount_Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtricularEwe001 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I am very glad that I was born in an era, where this legendary man walked among us. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 RIP Nelson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson,_1st_Viscount_Nelson Dashing looking gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Rest in Peace for Nelson Mandela. He fought entire life for his people and bring freedom to them. He left this world respected from entire world. One of the last great people of our age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520 Guy was legend and an Icon RIP Mr Mandela. As usual discuss, if you come in here to 'troll' feck off you heartless pricks. He was an incredible man, from whom all of humanity can learn. Truly, he was, and will forever remain, an inspiration. He was a fighter to the end, but whilst others fight for glory and vanity, he fought for freedom. Edited December 7, 2013 by elanman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Mandela has accomplished a lot but among them there is one sad side to it. He used arms and death of innocent civilians for making his point, if not directly but leading the orders. Never the less going through history Mandela has contributed immensely and for that he will be remembered. Rest in Peace, Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockTheRipper Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 You lot are absolutely brainwashed by the zionist controlled media. That kindly old grey haired man you see on the news was a lot different when he was younger. He was a Communist, a keen boxer, very aggressive, and had a reputation as a womanizer. To say he hated white people is an understatement. Violence and terrorism were the tools of his trade, but just like Martin Luther King, the controlled media hide his murky past and try to paint him as some kind of saintly figure. Where was he when white families and their pets were being hacked to bits with machetes? Why didn't he do more to help combat the murder, rape and violence which has now become such a problem since the blacks started running South Africa? The fact of the matter is, South Africa was much more prosperous and peaceful under white rule, as were places such as Detroit, Haiti etc etc. Here's some friendly advice, switch off your TV, put down those daily papers, and do some digging on the net if you want to learn the uncomfortable truth about the world we live in today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Oh look, we've got a new bigot on the forum. I do like the irony of telling people to put down conventional media in favour of conspiracy theory blogs though. Those pesky authoritative sources and subject matter experts are no match for a blithering idiot with no credibility and even less of a clue. Edited December 7, 2013 by sivispacem Kiffster 1 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Reading things like that just makes me ask myself, "who am I supposed to believe?". To be honest though, Mandela wasn't exactly a saint, there were acts of freedom fighting "terrorism" he committed back in the day, some of which killed innocent people. While he did have a good cause (to fight for a more equal country), South Africa isn't exactly a peaceful nation these days is it? The rape epidemic, the high murder rate (though Central American countries are still higher), the corruption, poverty, the slaughter of white farmers, I honestly wish these problems were addressed more so something could be done. There have been a few parties established to compete with the ANC in recent times, so I'm hoping things improve. I'm not betting on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol232 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Rest in Peace, you were epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) To be honest though, a great number of the issues that exist in South Africa are largely attributable to Apartheid. The crime rates and violence are a product of the economic and social disparity of white minority rule, the corruption and political strife down to the messy transition and the unfortunate lack of political knowledge on the part of many of the early local leaders. And it's true that Mandela used terrorism during his struggle but the same is true of basically every sovereignty movement or violent resistance against despotism in history. He never targeted or advocated the targeting of civilians, only the Apartheid regime and its agents. Edited December 7, 2013 by sivispacem AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 You lot are absolutely brainwashed by the zionist controlled media. That kindly old grey haired man you see on the news was a lot different when he was younger. He was a Communist, a keen boxer, very aggressive, and had a reputation as a womanizer. To say he hated white people is an understatement. Violence and terrorism were the tools of his trade, but just like Martin Luther King, the controlled media hide his murky past and try to paint him as some kind of saintly figure. Where was he when white families and their pets were being hacked to bits with machetes? Why didn't he do more to help combat the murder, rape and violence which has now become such a problem since the blacks started running South Africa? The fact of the matter is, South Africa was much more prosperous and peaceful under white rule, as were places such as Detroit, Haiti etc etc. Here's some friendly advice, switch off your TV, put down those daily papers, and do some digging on the net if you want to learn the uncomfortable truth about the world we live in today. Why would white people (Jews are white) paint the guy as a hero if he hated white people you stupid f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner71 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 You lot are absolutely brainwashed by the zionist controlled media. That kindly old grey haired man you see on the news was a lot different when he was younger. He was a Communist, a keen boxer, very aggressive, and had a reputation as a womanizer. To say he hated white people is an understatement. Violence and terrorism were the tools of his trade, but just like Martin Luther King, the controlled media hide his murky past and try to paint him as some kind of saintly figure. Where was he when white families and their pets were being hacked to bits with machetes? Why didn't he do more to help combat the murder, rape and violence which has now become such a problem since the blacks started running South Africa? The fact of the matter is, South Africa was much more prosperous and peaceful under white rule, as were places such as Detroit, Haiti etc etc. Here's some friendly advice, switch off your TV, put down those daily papers, and do some digging on the net if you want to learn the uncomfortable truth about the world we live in today. Go back to your cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 You lot are absolutely brainwashed by the zionist controlled media. That kindly old grey haired man you see on the news was a lot different when he was younger. He was a Communist, a keen boxer, very aggressive, and had a reputation as a womanizer. To say he hated white people is an understatement. Violence and terrorism were the tools of his trade, but just like Martin Luther King, the controlled media hide his murky past and try to paint him as some kind of saintly figure. Where was he when white families and their pets were being hacked to bits with machetes? Why didn't he do more to help combat the murder, rape and violence which has now become such a problem since the blacks started running South Africa? The fact of the matter is, South Africa was much more prosperous and peaceful under white rule, as were places such as Detroit, Haiti etc etc. Here's some friendly advice, switch off your TV, put down those daily papers, and do some digging on the net if you want to learn the uncomfortable truth about the world we live in today. Why would white people (Jews are white) paint the guy as a hero if he hated white people you stupid f*ck.I was going to respond with similar intent but perhaps a little more nuance but was running late this morning. Give yourself a pat on the back, you've saved the thread from one of my rambling monologues with your entertaining brevity. Mr. House 1 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) You lot are absolutely brainwashed by the zionist controlled media. That kindly old grey haired man you see on the news was a lot different when he was younger. He was a Communist, a keen boxer, very aggressive, and had a reputation as a womanizer. To say he hated white people is an understatement. Violence and terrorism were the tools of his trade, but just like Martin Luther King, the controlled media hide his murky past and try to paint him as some kind of saintly figure. Where was he when white families and their pets were being hacked to bits with machetes? Why didn't he do more to help combat the murder, rape and violence which has now become such a problem since the blacks started running South Africa? The fact of the matter is, South Africa was much more prosperous and peaceful under white rule, as were places such as Detroit, Haiti etc etc. Here's some friendly advice, switch off your TV, put down those daily papers, and do some digging on the net if you want to learn the uncomfortable truth about the world we live in today. Why would white people (Jews are white) paint the guy as a hero if he hated white people you stupid f*ck.I was going to respond with similar intent but perhaps a little more nuance but was running late this morning. Give yourself a pat on the back, you've saved the thread from one of my rambling monologues with your entertaining brevity. Well you know sometimes you've just got to treat something this dumb as direct as possible. Really though, this whole 'MEDIA LIES ZIONIST ILLUMINATI' sh*t is starting to become unfunny in how widespread it is on the internet. Sure the media has bias and pressure from government and private industry, but believing crazy internet blogs simply because they directly oppose the mainstream media is a much worse course of action than having unquestioning loyalty to mainstream media. Of course I'm probably just an illuminati puppet conspirator in on the whole thing. baphomet baphomet baphomet rothschild blahlblalhlalblalh. Terrorist or no I'll take Nelson Mandela over Alex f*cking Jones any day. At least Mandela didn't charge $19.99 to give you the UNCENSORED TRUTH THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE Edit: Damn I guess I've replaced your rambling monologue with my own. What have I become. Edited December 7, 2013 by Nale Dixon I<3GTAV and RoadRunner71 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Congratulations, my brother. You are one of us now. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) I find it funny how people like him label Mandela as a terrorist and celebrate his death, yet they choose to honor the memory of an evil dictator responsible for the death of over a million jews, and don't give me that Holocaust denial bullsh*t either. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with white pride, just pointing out the hypocrisy of some. Edited December 7, 2013 by xXGst0395Xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raavi Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Conspiracy Theories like Illuminati, NWO, FEMA death camps, zionists controlling the bank and 9/11 have become popularised by figures like Jesse Ventura, Alex Jones and the guy that believes that every monarch on earth is a secret lizard, David Icke is his name I believe. Before the internet, it was harder if not impossible to find like minded idiots to converse with. Now just google "insert random news story here" conspiracy and you'll have tens if not hundreds of ignorant idiots lined up. People literally give up there jobs and live quite handsomely of the "conspiracy theory business" Even respected scholars and industry professionals have flushed down their credibility for conspiracies like the 9/11 conspiracy. Why? not because they're all devoid of reality, no - because it is big business, if people are crazy enough to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars buying this sh*t http://www.infowarsshop.com, they are crazy enough to pay to attend seminars, buy books etc etc. Fear does sell. – overeducated wonk who fetishises compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D- Ice Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) You lot are absolutely brainwashed by the zionist controlled media. That kindly old grey haired man you see on the news was a lot different when he was younger. He was a Communist, a keen boxer, very aggressive, and had a reputation as a womanizer. To say he hated white people is an understatement. Violence and terrorism were the tools of his trade, but just like Martin Luther King, the controlled media hide his murky past and try to paint him as some kind of saintly figure. Where was he when white families and their pets were being hacked to bits with machetes? Why didn't he do more to help combat the murder, rape and violence which has now become such a problem since the blacks started running South Africa? The fact of the matter is, South Africa was much more prosperous and peaceful under white rule, as were places such as Detroit, Haiti etc etc. Here's some friendly advice, switch off your TV, put down those daily papers, and do some digging on the net if you want to learn the uncomfortable truth about the world we live in today. No one here (I hope) is claiming he did no ill - just that he did far more good than ill for humanity as a whole. It ceratinly is a matter of subjective opinion, but that is by far the general global consensus it seems. I challange you to provide credible proof that the suffering of the "whites" during the post-Apartheid backlash was so much more than that of the "coloured" for decades under Apartheid, that it warrants labelling ending Apartheid a bad thing overall. Regrading Zionism, wasn't he quite staunchily anti-Israel with regards to the Israel-Palestine conflict? And finally, why exactly do you think South Africa and Detroit are better under white rule? Do you think it is purely because having less melanin in your skin makes you a better leader? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with white pride, just pointing out the hypocrisy of some. If my memory serves me correct, I do not remember having to sit somesort of exam that I studied ages for prior to being born in order to determine what skin colour I have, white being allocated to those scoring high marks. My point is how can you be proud of something you did not achieve? IMO white pride, any racist/nationalist movements, and being proud of things you did not achieve are all inherently illogical. Edited December 7, 2013 by D- Ice Raavi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockTheRipper Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Not sure why you morons are bringing conspiracy theories or retards such as Alex Jones and David Icke in to this thread. Nothing I said can be considered conspiratorial. I only deal in facts, and the fact is that Mandela's handler was Joe Slovo, a Communist Jew. There is pictures of him and Mandela doing a clenched fist salute underneath the Soviet flag with the hammer and sickle. As for the moron that said Jews are white, keep smoking that crack pipe. Benjamin Netanyahu himself said that Jews consider themselves a separate race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Not sure why you morons are bringing conspiracy theories or retards such as Alex Jones and David Icke in to this thread. Nothing I said can be considered conspiratorial. I only deal in facts, and the fact is that Mandela's handler was Joe Slovo, a Communist Jew. There is pictures of him and Mandela doing a clenched fist salute underneath the Soviet flag with the hammer and sickle. As for the moron that said Jews are white, keep smoking that crack pipe. Benjamin Netanyahu himself said that Jews consider themselves a separate race. Aren't some Jews just considered a religion though? Joe Slovo looks very much Aryan white to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiffster Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I only deal in facts You only deal in facts, but then you say bullsh*t like Mandela's hate for white people is an understatement? Or that violence and terror were the tools of his trade? Life in SA was better under white rule? Hahahahahahahahaha!!! And a bunch of other crap I can't remember (I'm on my phone so yeah)... You really don't know much about SA, do you? Do we have a huge crime problem? Yes of course! Corruption? Absolutely! But to say life was better during apartheid is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!!! Because of the increasingly violent white supremacist apartheid government of South Africa at the time, Nelson Mandela co-founded the armed wing of the ANC known as Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK). It was founded after the horrible events of the Sharpville Massacre (if you don't know what it is, google) when South African police opened fire on protesters, killing 69, including women and children. That's when the ANC realized they had to fight to protect the people and to fight against the government which was becoming more and more violent against the people of South Africa, and that's why Nelson Mandela co founded Umkhonto we Sizwe, which used violent, terrorist tactics in the fight for freedom. With that being said though, Mandela himself NEVER supported terrorism. Here is Mandela's "I'm prepared to die" speech: "At the beginning of June 1961, after a long and anxious assessment of the South African situation, I, and some colleagues, came to the conclusion that as violence in this country was inevitable, it would be unrealistic and wrong for African leaders to continue preaching peace and non-violence at a time when the government met our peaceful demands with force. This conclusion was not easily arrived at. It was only when all else had failed, when all channels of peaceful protest had been barred to us, that the decision was made to embark on violent forms of political struggle, and to form Umkhonto we Sizwe. We did so not because we desired such a course, but solely because the government had left us with no other choice. In the Manifesto of Umkhonto published on 16 December 1961, which is exhibit AD, we said: 'The time comes in the life of any nation when there remain only two choices submit or fight. That time has now come to South Africa. We shall not submit and we have no choice but to hit back by all means in our power in defence of our people, our future, and our freedom.' Firstly, we believed that as a result of Government policy, violence by the African people had become inevitable, and that unless responsible leadership was given to canalise and control the feelings of our people, there would be outbreaks of terrorism which would produce an intensity of bitterness and hostility between the various races of this country which is not produced even by war. Secondly, we felt that without violence there would be no way open to the African people to succeed in their struggle against the principle of white supremacy. All lawful modes of expressing opposition to this principle had been closed by legislation, and we were placed in a position in which we had either to accept a permanent state of inferiority, or take over the Government. We chose to defy the law. We first broke the law in a way which avoided any recourse to violence; when this form was legislated against, and then the Government resorted to a show of force to crush opposition to its policies, only then did we decide to answer with violence." All Mandela (and the people of this country) ever wanted, was freedom. But because of the colour of their skin, such a thing was denied to them by the government... Mandela was against white domination, and he was against black domination. In his views, South Africa belongs to ALL South Africans, and all South Africans are equal regardless of the colour of their skin... And that is what he always stood for and fought for... TL;DR - Mandela is Awesome!!! I<3GTAV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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