Doc Rikowski Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Germany solid WC team as usual, had no doubts about it (except my prediction ). Portugal... Their main sport newspaper was titling today: CR7 Centre of The Universe. Attitude is always a problem for them, imho. And CR7 is not the best player in the world, never was in the first place. Never there when matches count for something. Teammates are no excuse and today they played better than him. I saw Maradona playing and he could play alongside total mediocre teams and carry them to win a WC or at least to a final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanillestorms Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Am I the only one that thought Germany were not that convincingly as the score shows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNCx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 A strong play by the Germans and a happy Angela Merkel on the VIP sector. Mueller is always there where you need him. He somehow reminds me Pippo Inzaghi. Not scoring beautiful goals. Can't find any good word to say about Portugal. Some help maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks. Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) And CR7 is not the best player in the world, never was in the first place. Argue about who's better between Messi and Ronaldo all you want but I'll say this, Messi is the more naturally talented but Ronaldo has so much more to his game than Messi. To just say what you've just said is ridiculous. The man is proven in both the La Liga and Premiership. 177 goals in 165 appearances for Madrid says it all. Edited June 16, 2014 by Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinDeRoosevelt Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I knew Germany were going to win. But not by this much. Just look at the squad ffs. Solid team. f*ck Portugal, I can't believe as a Man Utd fan I had to see Nani playing like a plonker, the f*cking c*nt. Poor Ronaldo though, who the heck was he working with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Am I the only one that thought Germany were not that convincingly as the score shows? I thought Germany were deserving of that score tbh. They totally out played Portugal, especially in the first half and that was before Pepe even got sent off and they were reduced to 10 men. They could have probably scored another 2 or 3 in the second half if they played as hard as they could. And there wasn't a whole lot Ronaldo could do in that game. Portugal were just so poor and Germany so good plus he's not 100% fit. I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't deliver in the important games though, just look at the hattrick in the qualifier against Sweden to send them to the WC. He's got 2 more games to prove himself, let's not write him off just yet. Edited June 16, 2014 by stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampioen Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Am I the only one that thought Germany were not that convincingly as the score shows? It's really hard to tell IMO. That early goal came from a penalty so that's hardly a measure of how well Germany played. Of course such an early goal changes something in the opponent, whether it be psychologically or strategically. Then the second goal. That was a good goal, perfectly excecuted but it came from a corner which is also not normal playing circumstances. Then the red card. That of course changes everything. Nothing after that can be really seen as a measure of how well they played. Overall, my guess is that Germany did have a much better team. They were dominating before the red card as well but obviously not to the same extent as after it. And Portugal seemed very weak psychologically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Ronaldo was pretty static for a lot of the match, but other than that, not too bad all things considered. This talk of "Oh Maradona could do this or that" doesn't really hold any weight. Modern football is quite vastly different from the period that Maradona played in. Ari Gold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNCx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Please don't forget that 11 Portugal man were playing (okay, 10) and CR7 is just one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 and CR7 is just one of them. Can we just call him Ronaldo pls. Nigeria are looking strongish in this game, Iran look very frail at the back. Then Iran get a corner and nearly score out of nowhere. I reckon Nigeria should win though. GTAKid667 and Crokey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I cucked Alex Jones Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Also Pepe was sent off. jajajajaja The US just might make it out of this group. I dunno. First we need a result against Ghana for it to mean anything, and then we need to keep a level head against Portugal, because they'll still be a tough test for us, even without Pepe, Coentrao, Almeida, and Almeida's mustache. Well Cronaldo isn't at full fitness, and Nani sure isn't at his best. They're still a better team than us, but they're playing like sh*t. Still need a result against Ghana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rikowski Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 And CR7 is not the best player in the world, never was in the first place. Argue about who's better between Messi and Ronaldo all you want but I'll say this, Messi is the more naturally talented but Ronaldo has so much more to his game than Messi. To just say what you've just said is ridiculous. The man is proven in both the La Liga and Premiership. 177 goals in 165 appearances for Madrid says it all. I don't think that Messi is that good either even though I think he's better than Ronaldo. Goals are not everything in football. I can name you dozens of players that scored the same in their career and were never that overrated like Ronaldo. And they won more than him. Also, defences in La Liga are obviously pretty soft, they always were, but it's not even about that. The man simply fails every time there's an important match. And please let's not count that playoff with Sweden. If Ronaldo had done any good before that Portugal wouldn't have needed a playoff. The day he'll win a EC or a WC then I'll agree with you. But that's not happening, ever, cause he ain't THAT good. And to whom says football was different when Maradona played, please... now that's a meaningless thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Germany played really well, but that penalty that they got was a schwalbe. I´m kind of annoyed I had to look at another game that was decided by a mistake from the referree. Well, ultimately it was also decided by Pepe being an idiot, but the Penalty shouldn´t have been given. If Ronaldo had done any good before that Portugal wouldn't have needed a playoff. Because Portugal plays with 11 Ronaldo´s right? Whenever any team with Messi or Ronaldo don't perform it is always them who get the blame. Edited June 16, 2014 by gtaxpert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) And to whom says football was different when Maradona played, please... now that's a meaningless thing to say. Except that isn't. Plant Maradona at his prime into modern football and he'd not look nearly as good as he did back then. Iran vs Nigeria hasn't been too great so far, not that I expected it. Hopefully Nigeria get the breakthrough though. Can't have Iran getting anything out of this, I'll never hear the end of it. Edited June 16, 2014 by Insert-Coin-To-Continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoumaker Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Except that isn't. Plant Maradona at his prime into modern football and he'd not look nearly as good as he did back then. Iran vs Nigeria hasn't been too great so far, not that I expected it. Hopefully Nigeria get the breakthrough though. Can't have Iran getting anything out of this, I'll never hear the end of it. And plant Ronaldo into football back then an he'd suck as well, they didn't have modern pitches or advanced footballs or boots. It's just a bad idea to compare football players from different times. Yeah, most boring game of the World Cup so far, hope Nigeria can sneak in a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNCx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 and CR7 is just one of them. Can we just call him Ronaldo pls. Well... For me there will always be only one true Ronaldo . And that's not the Portuguese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Good lord, you know you're really scrapping the barrel when you bring on Shola Ameobi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampioen Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If Ronaldo had done any good before that Portugal wouldn't have needed a playoff. Because Portugal plays with 11 Ronaldo´s right? Whenever any team with Messi or Ronaldo don't perform it is always them who get the blame. If Portugal played with 11 Ronaldo's all they would do is f*ck each other on the pitch. Doc Rikowski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I get why everybody thinks it is cool to hate on Ronaldo for his pretty boy looks and how he comes across, and say he is a fa**ot, but what Ronaldo really is is one of the most amazing athletes in football and one of the greatest players of all time. Today the Germans covered him very well. They let Nani do his thing, because Nani is crap and does not even pose 1 percent of the threat that Ronaldo does. Edited June 16, 2014 by gtaxpert Der_Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampioen Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I get why everybody thinks it is cool to hate on Ronaldo for his pretty boy looks and how he comes accross, and say he is a fagot, but what Ronaldo really is is one of the most amazing athletes in football and one of the greatest players of all time. Today the germans covered him very well. They let Nani do his thing, because Nani is crap and does not even pose 1 percent of the threat that Ronaldo does. I agree. But this is the world cup and he's a threat so hating on him is what I'll do until their or our end in this tournament. Also, as much as I respect him as an athlete, I do genuinely think he's a faggy little bitch as a person. Edited June 16, 2014 by CenMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 God this is the worst game by a huuuuge margin. Iran being really defensive and Nigeria look aboslutely turd coming forward. No energy, no creativity, no urgency, no threat whatsoever. It started out promising as well, but it's just gone so flaccid that I doubt Pele's entire stockpile of viagra could get it going again. Ari Gold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rikowski Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) And to whom says football was different when Maradona played, please... now that's a meaningless thing to say. Except that isn't. Plant Maradona at his prime into modern football and he'd not look nearly as good as he did back then. Modern football? You don't know much about football, don't you? Cause that's about the most stereotypical thing you can say among the stereotypical things people that don't know much about football say. We're not talking about 80 years ago here. Maradona played his last WC in 1994. And even 80 years ago the basics of the game were the same. Talent and skill can't be limited by new tactics or new boots. That's about the most stupid idea I ever heard about this game. You should really watch some of Maradona's goals in Serie A which in the 80s had the strongest and most tactical and technical defences of the world. Edited June 16, 2014 by Doc Rikowski uJhatafart00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlwt Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I said a 0-0 draw all along. Doc Rikowski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der_Don Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Definitely deserved the three points against Portugal but I think 4-0 is a bit too much. Portugal could've easily scored a goal or two themselves in the first half (Ronaldo and Hugo Almeida). That penalty situation was a bit tricky. A 50 - 50 situation imo. I also think that it wasn't necessarily a red card for Pepe. Another tricky situation for the ref. So there were a couple of decisions that were made in Germany's favour. On the other hand Portugal were really poor throughout the 90 minutes. When Ronaldo hit that "one-man-wall-Lahm" was hilarious. Entertaining game overall though. We were the better team in the end and deserved to win. That's what counts. Doc Rikowski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I can't believe as a Man Utd fan I had to see Nani playing like a plonker I take it you've never seen Nani play for United, then? lol Coin, Crokey and Shoumaker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I cucked Alex Jones Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Until Messi has an altar dedicated to him in Barcelona he's not as good as Maradona. That and cocaine. Distrom, Doc Rikowski and uJhatafart00 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Modern football? You don't know much about football, don't you? Cause that's about the most stereotypical thing you can say among the stereotypical things people that don't know much about football say. We're not talking about 80 years ago here. Maradona played his last WC in 1994. And even 80 years ago the basics of the game were the same. Talent and skill can't be limited by new tactics or new boots. That's about the most stupid idea I ever heard about this game. You should really watch some of Maradona's goals in Serie A which in the 80s had the strongest and most tactical and technical defences of the world. Yes, clearly I don't know what I'm talking about. There's been no evolution of the game in the last twenty years. And Maradona if he were playing today, would be romping it. Sarcasm, if you haven't caught on. Edited June 16, 2014 by Insert-Coin-To-Continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks. Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) And CR7 is not the best player in the world, never was in the first place. Argue about who's better between Messi and Ronaldo all you want but I'll say this, Messi is the more naturally talented but Ronaldo has so much more to his game than Messi. To just say what you've just said is ridiculous. The man is proven in both the La Liga and Premiership. 177 goals in 165 appearances for Madrid says it all. I don't think that Messi is that good either even though I think he's better than Ronaldo.Goals are not everything in football. I can name you dozens of players that scored the same in their career and were never that overrated like Ronaldo. And they won more than him. Also, defences in La Liga are obviously pretty soft, they always were, but it's not even about that. The man simply fails every time there's an important match. And please let's not count that playoff with Sweden. If Ronaldo had done any good before that Portugal wouldn't have needed a playoff. The day he'll win a EC or a WC then I'll agree with you. But that's not happening, ever, cause he ain't THAT good. And to whom says football was different when Maradona played, please... now that's a meaningless thing to say.Ronaldo isn't as good in important games Please tell me your on about on the international stage. Goals are not everything your right but Ronaldo has so much more to his game. Like I said, Ronaldo is proven in the La Liga and Premiership. Enough said on the debate really. In my opinion he's the best player in the world. Iran v Nigeria ends 0-0. Edited June 16, 2014 by Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 First draw of the tournament, and by far the worst game. Good to get that one out of the way early-ish though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der_Don Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 First draw of the tournament, and by far the worst game. Good to get that one out of the way early-ish though. Bosnia should have no problem to beat those two teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...