Game File Mystery Hunt...

[Skoomafox]

 

 

I hate to say it, but there is more and more info pointing towards the mystery being cut then being in game

I can honestly say this possibility hasn't crossed my mind much. I assume if they were going to cut the mystery then the first thing they would remove would be the mural. Instead they left it in plain sight for us to find.

 

but no one truly knows if the mural is even related to the mystery

 

Except, the mural started the mystery..

 

And you know, they didn't cut the ufos.

 

The chiliad ufo was found within the first week of release, and it's no easy task, BUT we had the glyphs to indicate what to do.. But as I see it, we've gotten too used to the ufos existence. How the fack where they even found in the first place? The map is no smaller when you're flying at highest altitude, and to find two "cloaked" ufos, just hovering the same place, is to my logic nearly impossible. Even when i know the exact location, it's still tricky to find the correct spot in air..

 

So the mystery is there, and it all started with the mural. We've been all over the map once or twice, but still haven't found it all. That's almost epic. And it's not like san andreas, where we THOUGHT there was something. We all saw something this time, in the hiding, but we can see it whenever we want.

Edited February 17, 2014 by Skoomafox

[TirkaneX]

 

Game File Mystery Hunt..

 

[LiquidNitrogen]

What Tirk said. Take this to the Mystery topic. This is for discussing FILES.

Edited February 17, 2014 by LiquidNitrogen

[Skoomafox]

Game File Mystery Hunt..

Yes, indeed. And sorry for the offtopic, i don't even belong here, i'm a gamer not a fliecracker

 

Perhaps we should make a non believer topic, so whenever people feel like just writing something demotivating to the eager hunters, they just head in there with their "ideas" and go nuts That way, we all get happy. Hunters can hunt, and nonbelievers can pad each other on the shoulders and be superior together

 

anyway, back on track.

Edited February 17, 2014 by Skoomafox

[McGyver55]

 

 

 

Perhaps we should make a non believer topic, so whenever people feel like just writing something demotivating to the eager hunters, they just head in there with their "ideas" and go nuts That way, we all get happy. Hunters can hunt, and nonbelievers can pad each other on the shoulders and be superior together

 

Yeah, I took you up on that and the thread was shut down in one post.... nice.

Edited February 17, 2014 by McGyver55

[~Tiger~]

 

Game File Mystery Hunt..

 

 

Perhaps we should make a non believer topic, so whenever people feel like just writing something demotivating to the eager hunters, they just head in there with their "ideas"

 

 

Perhaps those who have nothing constructive to say should remain silent?

[Karoi]

Hello all,

 

What's new? What did I miss?

[Skoomafox]

 

 

 

 

Perhaps we should make a non believer topic, so whenever people feel like just writing something demotivating to the eager hunters, they just head in there with their "ideas" and go nuts That way, we all get happy. Hunters can hunt, and nonbelievers can pad each other on the shoulders and be superior together

 

Yeah, I took you up on that and the thread was shut down in one post.... nice.

 

Well, I'm sorry, I was merely joking I did put Wink-smiley at the end, but sorry it wasn't obvious enough. Even though it would be nice to filter them out that way, I don't think it would work.. Restrictions and stuff like that, often results in more trolling and/or 10%'ers.

 

@barefoottiger, yeah we can all dream again, sorry for derailing the topic. Just keep on, and pretend I was never here

[tadd]

Ok thank you guys, i know not much has happened here recently but this is for files only so, sorry to be the dick but from my post forward i will be treating posts as spam unless on topic... the topic being game files and cracking file types...

 

if you want clothes or mods for amusement or to show off then please find a modding forum topic... this is not one (unless modding something mystery related or in order to further mystery research)

 

Same goes for general mystery posts... we have a dedicated topic to general and even one for metaphor... this is for files...

 

Thanks guys... and again, sorry to be the dick... this is why i dislike creating topics lol this and being responsible for the first post

 

@karoi... not much... talkol is m.i.a and reoze is back (sort of lol) but he is busy with real life... tgas is also m.i.a but i know he is also busy with real life (which is a bit of a pain since we seemed to be within groping distance of a collision model viewer)

 

Other than that, a bit of cut content discussion and a lot of requests from people who offer nothing to the mystery in return lol

 

All fun though... i attempted to get the general hunt topic moving over the weekend... seems to have paid off with a few new fresh ideas and approaches...

 

Thats about it bro

Edited February 17, 2014 by tadd

[Karoi]

Okay, so no new big news.

[Sprue]

@sprue, good to have you aboard and thanks for the info, was a while since playing that mission but i understand now.

 

 

I may not post much, since I'm a happy little lurker, but I just keep an eye on this thread to see what other folks have found. As for the mission, no worries. I didn't remember much about it, either, so I had to go play it to check out things (never did find anything, to my disappointment... I wanted to trigger those files in-game, since normally you can't drive around with Steve...).

 

And speaking of mysteries, this might just be a reuse, but a while back, I found Dave's car plate mentioned in scripting files in missions he's not in (like "Father and Son"). Was curious what all missions it was listed in and I ended up finding that push file that Tom posted a long time ago. I checked it for Oracle 2's and then would check that mission, to see if the plate was in there (just to narrow things down... I manually looked at more). I figure the majority of those missions were just some kind of script reuse (I use a hex editor to view a small portion of the overall file), but one mission listed the plate by itself, which I found strange: the version of "The Big Score" where you use the drill. So I replayed the mission and was surprised to see the gray Oracle 2 you drive to the UD has those plates on them:

 

 

And just for reference, Dave in his car in "Three's Company":

 

 

I've checked some through the files, but never have found anything that might explain this (yet?). A minor deal, in the scheme of things and probably nothing more than an innocent reuse and/or error (I suppose the reason could have been cut, too... that would be disappointing along the lines of there being an answer, but having no access to it).

 

I've expanded to checking out other stuff, but haven't found a whole lot (I look on and off, as the mood strikes). Needless to say, when the mood strikes, I can literally spend hours going through the files, LOL. :-p

[tadd]

Haha nice info there and hunting bro, thanks for this...

 

I know what you mean about the files though... sometimes it seems a bind but other times i get curious... then one thing leads to another and im on for the night till early hours lol

 

All good fun though

 

Like i said, good to have you around though mate

[Pedrocaas]

Man,I can see here that you are working very hard on this,good work to all of you guys!

Also,there´s some place that I can search for anything?I have 100% of the game, so I think I can help

I'm on PS3,add me if you want : Quenai

Good luck and sorry for my bad english

[Naznesss]

Nice work i am shocked.

[indirivacua]

@Sprue Nice work!

 

 

 

I dont know if this would consider it a "mysterious" file, but, searching phones files I found this.

 

As you can see in the picture, it was a temporary file, perhaps "beta" of phones.

[brothan323]

 

 

 

I hate to say it, but there is more and more info pointing towards the mystery being cut then being in game

I can honestly say this possibility hasn't crossed my mind much. I assume if they were going to cut the mystery then the first thing they would remove would be the mural. Instead they left it in plain sight for us to find.

 

but no one truly knows if the mural is even related to the mystery

 

Except, the mural started the mystery..

 

And you know, they didn't cut the ufos.

 

The chiliad ufo was found within the first week of release, and it's no easy task, BUT we had the glyphs to indicate what to do.. But as I see it, we've gotten too used to the ufos existence. How the fack where they even found in the first place? The map is no smaller when you're flying at highest altitude, and to find two "cloaked" ufos, just hovering the same place, is to my logic nearly impossible. Even when i know the exact location, it's still tricky to find the correct spot in air..

 

So the mystery is there, and it all started with the mural. We've been all over the map once or twice, but still haven't found it all. That's almost epic. And it's not like san andreas, where we THOUGHT there was something. We all saw something this time, in the hiding, but we can see it whenever we want.

 

again, you don't know if the mural is actually part of the mystery, THERE IS NO CONNECTION, people have just jumped on a mystery, with NO CLUES, and for the whole didn't cut ufo's, again, NOT part of this "mystery", I hate how people will argue with nonsensical facts, the ufo's are just an easter egg buddy. Seriosuly, your paragraph does not make any sense man, how the ufo's were found in the first place? seriously, you have to ask that? Your map argument is just stupid, and this "Even when i know the exact location, it's still tricky to find the correct spot in air.." is a CONTRADICTING statement, if you have the exact location of something, how does it suddenly become hard to find? THERE IS NO mystery, we have found no shred of evidence of a mystery, we are looking in the game files and have FOUND NOTHING. The mural, to me, seems like a way to see the ufo at the end of the game, than a "path"

Edited February 18, 2014 by brothan323

[quechus13]

@Sprue Nice work!

 

 

 

I dont know if this would consider it a "mysterious" file, but, searching phones files I found this.

 

IMG

 

As you can see in the picture, it was a temporary file, perhaps "beta" of phones.

I believe the developer in charge of the phone used his own phone to test the phone in-game and forgot to get rid of the temp file.

This has happened before and I've done it myself lol.

 

Though what really bothers me is how no one has found the location of the egg.

I mean why is it so hard?

[tadd]

@quech... basically its hard because we cant open .xtyp files...

 

The only file, in the files to use the egg is called lev_des.xtyp...

 

We dont know how the game uses lev_des.xtyp yet... therefore no location yet...

 

Its believed the egg is in an interior (the offsets are small, indicating a small area apparently) but its no good us having its location inside an interior if we cant find that interior in game...

 

Long story short we need to understand .xtyp and .xmap files before we can give a location... our file crackers are busy with real life...

 

hope that clears it up for people.

 

Now... @brothan... bro if you want to debate whether there is or isnt a mystery and what is or isnt involved then please take it to the general mystery hunt... this place is for files.

Edited February 18, 2014 by tadd

[quechus13]

@quech... basically its hard because we cant open .xtyp files...

 

The only file, in the files to use the egg is called lev_des.xtyp...

 

We dont know how the game uses lev_des.xtyp yet... therefore no location yet...

 

Its believed the egg is in an interior (the offsets are small, indicating a small area apparently) but its no good us having its location inside an interior if we cant find that interior in game...

 

Long story short we need to understand .xtyp and .xmap files before we can give a location... our file crackers are busy with real life...

 

hope that clears it up for people.

 

Now... @brothan... bro if you want to debate whether there is or isnt a mystery and what is or isnt involved then please take it to the general mystery hunt... this place is for files.

 

How would one crack a file?

If no one is doing it I myself would love to crack it.

[tadd]

Well its not easy and you need programming knowledge lol

 

If you have it, then you should understand how to 'crack' it (basically read the information in the file)

 

These files are in formats we dont understand just yet... people like reoze and others are looking into them... reoze has even managed to read them... i would advise speaking to him if you want a head start

[HOW'S ANNIE?]

Something's really been screwing with my head in relation to this mystery recently... If their really is something out there for us to find, the existence of the egg makes sense. However I cannot wrap my head around the existence of the astroid. It's too big to be hidden anywhere, and from what I understand from your hunt it has no animation what so ever, which makes zero sense to me.

[agencydude]

Basically: if the alien egg does exist in-game, it will be in an interior. There is an inkling of it existing in the game as it sits, but not a definite ruling on the matter.

 

For the asteroid: think about it. They come out of the sky. Say, for instance, you drop a car from a Cargobob at a strange angle fast, the car will flip and flop around until it makes contact with the ground. There is no animation for that, just physics. It would be the same case with the asteroid, if it is supposed to be an actual asteroid in the game. If it's just a prop at the movie studio, we have no access to the sound stages like in VC. Could be cut. Probably.

[Eram]

If in game, i think the asteroid could be half burried underwater.

[brothan323]

 

Basically: if the alien egg does exist in-game, it will be in an interior. There is an inkling of it existing in the game as it sits, but not a definite ruling on the matter.

 

For the asteroid: think about it. They come out of the sky. Say, for instance, you drop a car from a Cargobob at a strange angle fast, the car will flip and flop around until it makes contact with the ground. There is no animation for that, just physics. It would be the same case with the asteroid, if it is supposed to be an actual asteroid in the game. If it's just a prop at the movie studio, we have no access to the sound stages like in VC. Could be cut. Probably.

 

the asteriod does exists, watch some tv in game and you will see it.This explains the presence of the asteroid, and why it is not a solid object and I think that the egg is in a tv show as well. I sh*t you not

Edited February 18, 2014 by brothan323

[Lead]

Sorry for being annoying but could spsmall or spmed be rollercoasters? Because you said its a vehicle and its fast.

[tadd]

Can you narrow it down to a channel or tv show it appears on? I will tell you in seconds if it is our asteroid or not... i fail to see why there is a model of something though if it is just used in a TV sequence (which models are not needed in)

 

Guys, WRONG TOPIC.

 

Please move to the general mystery to discuss this... look, a link...

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/671832-grand-theft-auto-v-mystery-hunt/

 

Click it... post there

 

Thank you.

 

@mo... it is possible but since we cant actually drive a rollercoaster i doubt they would have handling data for it (which is where spsmall and spmed were found)

Edited February 18, 2014 by tadd

[XMarqstheSpot]

Can you narrow it down to a channel or tv show it appears on? I will tell you in seconds if it is our asteroid or not... i fail to see why there is a model of something though if it is just used in a TV sequence (which models are not needed in)

 

Guys, WRONG TOPIC.

 

Please move to the general mystery to discuss this... look, a link...

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/671832-grand-theft-auto-v-mystery-hunt/

 

Click it... post there

 

Thank you.

 

@mo... it is possible but since we cant actually drive a rollercoaster i doubt they would have handling data for it (which is where spsmall and spmed were found)

actually, the tv shows and movies are not pre-rendered, iirc.

 

They are actual locations and props, just not anywhere we can get to them in the game world.

 

someone correct me if i'm wrong, please.

[di0nislaw]

Hello everyone, can someone send me "weapons_player" folder with .awc files in audio_misc.rpf FROM PS3 ? My e-mail: [email protected]

[tadd]

I am correcting you Xmarqs

 

Cutscenes (where micheal stands chatting to someone or franklin is talking to omega and so on) use models...

 

Tv shows are a pre-rendered video... bink format i believe... i can watch all videos from the files and among them are the TV shows... so no models used or left in the files with regards to TV...

 

As i said, cutscenes are different though, they seem to actually use models... although i am yet to see the model for the inside of the spinning anus from micheals cutscene... so the jury is out at this moment as to whether cutscene even use the models in the files... i cant remeber if the cutscenes are bink video either... will have to get into it and find out... will let you know.

 

@dionis... if you can tell us what it will be used for we may be more willing to help

Edited February 18, 2014 by tadd

[di0nislaw]

I'll take a look how these are used. If they're like GTA IV's 1 second audio files, I'll use it for sound mod for GTA IV. By the way, i need the xft and xdd converting tools to use with 3DS Max, also for modding. Don't know why Zmodeler not working