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Xeius

Pc users sold out by rockstar.

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Xeius

I was very shocked when i heard that GTA3 was going to come on PS2 before a PC.

And even more when i heard the Vice CIty was going to be the same way.

 

 

Why did Rockstar sell us(PC gamers) out?

 

The PC gamers made Rockstar what they are today, and the PS2 users benefit from that?

 

That is not the way to treat your fans, it is ok that the console gets a cool game like GTA but on the cost of the PC Gamers, that sucks.

 

Is was clear that GTA3 was a console game, made for the PC too.

 

And now they say they gonna PORT the game from PS2 to PC. Well excuse me, but every time i hear the word Port in this connection it makes my skin crawl, it can only go the wrong way.

 

So please ROCKSTAR make futur GTA games for PC and make a seperatede version for PS2, they did it in Hitman 2 and so can you.

 

Do not step on your loyal PC Fans with a crappy port, you will just end up loosing them.

 

which will be a same becouse we made you what you are, do not forget that.

 

Why did Rockstar sell us(PC gamers) out?

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sensory

did you even think before posting this crap? don't you think

that r* knows better what they're doing with their company

to make sure that they can keep making the best games,

over and over? this ps2 exclusive deal is a godsent for r*, as

it brings in allot of money for them, so they can keep

expanding on the gta series.

 

and at any rate.. vice city is coming out for the pc, just not

for a few months, so stop whining about it and get used to it.

 

and no.. i'm not a ps2 fanboy nor am i a pc fanboy. i love

both my pc and ps2, plus i started playing gta waaaay back

when it first came out, with topdown view and shoddy

graphics, so don't give me any stupid sh*te.

 

 

gawd i'm in a pissy mood tonight. :furious:

 

 

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Barton Waterduck

ye, it's all about the money

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Agen_Terminator

Which really is a bad thing!

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papa_smurf49319

pc sucks GO ROCKSTAR gta came out for p2 before pc dumbass

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Spetsnaz

No, GTA came out for PC before it came to 'p2', which i take it means ps2, in which case your mad OR your talking about GTA3 which he already stated. If you didnt mean ps2, you could mean playstation, which it didnt. So, whatever the hell you ment YOUR a dumbass.

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sensory
No, GTA came out for PC before it came to 'p2', which i take it means ps2, in which case your mad OR your talking about GTA3 which he already stated. If you didnt mean ps2, you could mean playstation, which it didnt. So, whatever the hell you ment YOUR a dumbass.

1. i'm pretty sure he was talking about vice city.

2. i wouldn't go around calling someone a dumbass if you're the

one who spells "you're" as "your".

 

don't get me wrong.. i'm not sticking up for him, i just found it

humorous that the pot was calling the kettle black.

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PS2 Guru

I honestly like it better, that games like GTA are coming to the consoles first, and in some cases only to Consoles (StarCraft: GHOST).

 

GTA3:PC was not  as enjoyable as it could be, because of the porting issues.  That aside, PC gaming these days is getting more annoying, due to you always needing better, stronger hardware(eg. Doom III, can only run "well" on the ATi Radeon 9700 PRO).  On Consoles, it works, and works well.

 

I used to play PC games, but now ive switched over to Consoles (I have all three! ).  I just think they offer a better experiance with less issues.

 

Rockstar, keep doing what your doing, its working great!

 

 

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cw12

bottomline.....games sell better for consoles rather than pc.  unless there some rpg game thats only for pc and cant be played on console.

 

this is a game thats not available for online play....then why get it for pc.....big point.

 

its for single player use....get a console

 

if you like multiplayer  pc is the way to go.  in this case, no.

 

pc sports games are the same way...you see a lot more people with it on console and few with it on pc...pc had multiplayer which brought people to buy it.  now that consoles have internet access....pc will go down.

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PS2 Guru

I dont think PC games will go down immediatley, but I think eventually it will diminish to only a small fan-following.  But people will still use PC's for work though, just not play. :)

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illspirit

Well, with such a barely coherent sentance fragment, I can't tell what papa_smurf was saying.  Whether he was just blatantly wrong or not, he's still flaming for no reason whatsoever.  *hands out warning star*

 

Anyway, back to the topic...  Think of it this way:  If Rockstar hadn't made GTA3 for PS2 and sold 20 bazillion copies of it, do you really think they would have been able to afford to make Vice City soo soon?  Not to mention the large bonus they surely get for releasing on the console first.  ;)

 

Besides, Xeius,  I don't know what crappy port you're going on about.  I thought GTA3 on PC put the console version to shame.  But then, one should expect that after a game has had an extra 7 months of dev time after selling a *cough*beta*cough* console version.

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FunnyMoney54

I don't think Rockstar cares if they have a moral debt owed to anyone. They are in it for one reason only (as previously stated): the MONEY.

 

Personally I prefer console games. I just don't like the idea of playing on a PC. Sure, if you had the same controller and everything, I guess it wouldn't be that bad, but with using the keyboard, it's just horrific (in my opinion).

 

illspirit - What do you mean? How did the PC version put the console to shame, what was the difference?

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Mad Max RW
GTA3:PC was not  as enjoyable as it could be, because of the porting issues.  That aside, PC gaming these days is getting more annoying, due to you always needing better, stronger hardware(eg. Doom III, can only run "well" on the ATi Radeon 9700 PRO).  On Consoles, it works, and works well.

Umm....bullsheet is a good word to sum up what you just said. You're basing how well Doom 3 will run on the E3 alpha demo. Don't be such a fool.

 

God dammit, the so called censorship on these forums is so lame.

 

 

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FunnyMoney54
God dammit, the so called censorship on these forums is so lame.

I know. The word 'bullsheet' is so dumb. If someone said that in real life, they'd get their ass kicked..

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Agen_Terminator

what porting issues?

I felt sorry in a way for the ps2 owners had to put up with but they did get it first so i couldn't be sympathetic.

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darknyt6

Just to chime in here with my 2 cents.

 

IMHO, It's really a double-edge sword. I realize that Rockstar is making a load off of the PS2 versions and as such are in a much more financially viable position to make the games we all (PC & PS2) love.  :r*:

 

Then again - there's no question (in my mind) that designing the game for the PS2 first, presents hardware limitations they have to code within (moreso than with current, even average PC's I should say).  I would think that they would have the *ability* to produce a more graphically advanced game if they had designed this game for the PC from the ground up. I mean, there are a few, but not just a ton of stellar graphics improvements to the engine. But they probably did all they had room to work with. Not to mention they got this game out the door in record time; especially for such an immense game. I agree with the above post that they were probably in a better position to do so in large part because of their record sales on the PS2.

 

That being said - maybe Rock* just isn't an Epic or id. Perhaps, they really don't mind being a little behind the graphics curve if they can make such awesome games.  Truth be told, some of the more impressive games graphically this year on the PC could have used some of Rock*'s gameplay genius behind them. So maybe even if they did make this game for the PC first, it might not have turned out any more enhanced that it is now, by virtue of more attention paid to gameplay than graphics.  

 

Really in the end I think the main gripe of us PC users is that we have to sit around and twiddle our thumbs while the PS2 world lives it up in VC. Unless you're like me and still haven't burnt out on GTA3!  Sure, the game might have progressed further on the PC design platform than it has - but I'm still pleased as punch with how well they've done.

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¤Public Enemy Number 1¤

gta is more of a consol game anyway

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deathsythe187

it seems like rockstar made more money selling gta3 on ps2 cause they are doing it again with vice city. I also think it is better for people that can't afford expensive pc's and graphic cards so they get it for ps2.

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Underboss
did you even think before posting this crap? don't you think

that r* knows better what they're doing with their company

to make sure that they can keep making the best games,

over and over? this ps2 exclusive deal is a godsent for r*, as

it brings in allot of money for them, so they can keep

expanding on the gta series.

 

and at any rate.. vice city is coming out for the pc, just not

for a few months, so stop whining about it and get used to it.

 

and no.. i'm not a ps2 fanboy nor am i a pc fanboy. i love

both my pc and ps2, plus i started playing gta waaaay back

when it first came out, with topdown view and shoddy

graphics, so don't give me any stupid sh*te.

 

 

gawd i'm in a pissy mood tonight. :furious:

Xeius, listen to this guy, he knows what hes talking about.

 

f*ck the PC if Playstation will get you more money. They don't have to be loyal to anybody.

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GTAZ

Rockstar NORTH just got greedy.. they saw the money and took it.. they are still loyal to their PC followers, thus the reason for GTA 3 being ported to our beloved gaming system and so will Vice City. But in order to keep making great games, you need money, and Sony gave them a lot of money to make it for their console. You think IBM or Intel or even MicroCrap (Xbox exclusive, eww) would have paid them as much or made them as much as quickly to make a PC version first?  Not likely.

 

But for all you people saying it's a console game and not a PC game, shut up. GTA started and belongs on the PC. We were here before your dumb little consoles, and the game is 10x better on a good computer then any console that exists today. GTA 3 loaded way faster , played way smoother, and looked 100x better on my PC then my PS2. The keyboard and mouse is a designed taste, and if you played games with it as much as most pc gamers, you would get used to it. The gamepad is not meant for FPS games like Frontline or Tribes2. I tried them both.. and both sucked on the PS2.  Being able to walk around in GTA 3 and actually look around at the same time without having to stop made the PC version a hell of alot better alone then the PS2 version.  You complain because your PC system can't play the game as well as your PS2 can, well, then your not a PC gamer because PC gamers have top of the line rigs to play the latest games on. I hope they make Doom3 playable only on a top end system like 2ghz and min Geforce 4 ti card then maybe we will see a good PC game and not something that has to cater to lowend system casual gamers.

 

 

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98766654321

ps2 made gta3 what it is. pc made gta3 slightly better by alowing you to modify the contents of the game. no matter how good of a system you have it will never be as graphicaly good as the ps2 version.

 

my friend has

a pentium 4 2.5 gig proccesor

80 gig hard drive

radeon 9700

512 ddr ram

and it runs good but it looks like sh*t

 

and besides ps2 has a decent contol setup, unlike pc.

 

the only real advantage of the pc version is modding and it has fast loading time.

 

 

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VideoPoker

I enjoyed GTA3 for the PS2 much more than on PC...It wasn't slow or anything I got a great computer 128mb videocard 2.4gig pentium4.. whatever PS2 so much better keep doing what your doing Rockstar!!!     :r*:  :rah:  :r*:

 

 

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Crevis
did you even think before posting this crap? don't you think

that r* knows better what they're doing with their company

to make sure that they can keep making the best games,

over and over? this ps2 exclusive deal is a godsent for r*, as

it brings in allot of money for them, so they can keep

expanding on the gta series.

 

and at any rate.. vice city is coming out for the pc, just not

for a few months, so stop whining about it and get used to it.

 

and no.. i'm not a ps2 fanboy nor am i a pc fanboy. i love

both my pc and ps2, plus i started playing gta waaaay back

when it first came out, with topdown view and shoddy

graphics, so don't give me any stupid sh*te.

 

 

gawd i'm in a pissy mood tonight. :furious:

wow. Good for you. I first played GTA 1 on the PC. I have played every single GTA

 

PC started it and im gonna raise hell if Vice doesnt come out within 3-4 months MAX.

 

I hate consoles. WHY the hell spend $400 on something where all it does is play games that u can on PC

 

PC gets better graphics

PC Has easier to use controls, and if u prefer ps2 constrols, buy a goddam joypad

 

think about it, VC on ps2 requires you to 'lock' onto an enemy. i absoloutely HATE that type of aiming, it sucks.

 

PC rocks and always will

 

so stfu

 

 

I agree that the reason why PC people are a little annoyed at PS2 is that some of us see it that PS2 took a game that was ours first. I have no problem with it comming out on PS2, but when it comes out several months after, and the PC version is simply a port from PS2, im not happy. PS2 version should be a PC port.

 

:rah:

:die:  DEATH TO PLAYSTATION FOR THEIR STEALING OF OUR GAMES

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Hum-Vee
did you even think before posting this crap? don't you think

that r* knows better what they're doing with their company

to make sure that they can keep making the best games,

over and over? this ps2 exclusive deal is a godsent for r*, as

it brings in allot of money for them, so they can keep

expanding on the gta series.

 

and at any rate.. vice city is coming out for the pc, just not

for a few months, so stop whining about it and get used to it.

 

and no.. i'm not a ps2 fanboy nor am i a pc fanboy. i love

both my pc and ps2, plus i started playing gta waaaay back

when it first came out, with topdown view and shoddy

graphics, so don't give me any stupid sh*te.

 

 

gawd i'm in a pissy mood tonight. :furious:

wow. Good for you. I first played GTA 1 on the PC. I have played every single GTA

 

PC started it and im gonna raise hell if Vice doesnt come out within 3-4 months MAX.

 

I hate consoles. WHY the hell spend $400 on something where all it does is play games that u can on PC

 

PC gets better graphics

PC Has easier to use controls, and if u prefer ps2 constrols, buy a goddam joypad

 

think about it, VC on ps2 requires you to 'lock' onto an enemy. i absoloutely HATE that type of aiming, it sucks.

 

PC rocks and always will

 

so stfu

 

 

I agree that the reason why PC people are a little annoyed at PS2 is that some of us see it that PS2 took a game that was ours first. I have no problem with it comming out on PS2, but when it comes out several months after, and the PC version is simply a port from PS2, im not happy. PS2 version should be a PC port.

 

:rah:

:die:  DEATH TO PLAYSTATION FOR THEIR STEALING OF OUR GAMES

Ride ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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bigmofo

Please do not talk again

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Mr. Fernando Martinez
did you even think before posting this crap? don't you think

that r* knows better what they're doing with their company

to make sure that they can keep making the best games,

over and over? this ps2 exclusive deal is a godsent for r*, as

it brings in allot of money for them, so they can keep

expanding on the gta series.

 

and at any rate.. vice city is coming out for the pc, just not

for a few months, so stop whining about it and get used to it.

 

and no.. i'm not a ps2 fanboy nor am i a pc fanboy. i love

both my pc and ps2, plus i started playing gta waaaay back

when it first came out, with topdown view and shoddy

graphics, so don't give me any stupid sh*te.

 

 

gawd i'm in a pissy mood tonight. :furious:

wow. Good for you. I first played GTA 1 on the PC. I have played every single GTA

 

PC started it and im gonna raise hell if Vice doesnt come out within 3-4 months MAX.

 

I hate consoles. WHY the hell spend $400 on something where all it does is play games that u can on PC

 

PC gets better graphics

PC Has easier to use controls, and if u prefer ps2 constrols, buy a goddam joypad

 

think about it, VC on ps2 requires you to 'lock' onto an enemy. i absoloutely HATE that type of aiming, it sucks.

 

PC rocks and always will

 

so stfu

 

 

I agree that the reason why PC people are a little annoyed at PS2 is that some of us see it that PS2 took a game that was ours first. I have no problem with it comming out on PS2, but when it comes out several months after, and the PC version is simply a port from PS2, im not happy. PS2 version should be a PC port.

 

:rah:

:die:  DEATH TO PLAYSTATION FOR THEIR STEALING OF OUR GAMES

QUICK ROCKSTAR! LISTEN TO HIS DEMANDS! Before you have a gang of skinny angry PC nerds on your asses spamming your e-mail with sub-seven trojans and whatnot.

 

Hey, 'tard... Don't blame Playstation 2 for your lack of Vice City. Blame your PCs for being user unfriendly and too expensive aswell, as being too overly complicated for the mainstream market.

 

Maybe if a high-end PC didn't cost like $4000 at most and you didn't have to update every 6 months to play the latest games, maybe Rockstar would have the game out earlier... But, for now, deal with it, ass.

 

But anyways oh well, have fun bitching for Vice City while, many people out there are enjoying it on their consoles.

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DemonNeno

You guys/gals are little kids

 

Grow up! Man.. I've never seen such foolishness go on at once. For once, PLEASE realize what you're saying before your jaw hits the ground and your sloppy fingers type words you've never dare to say to someones face. Lets realize something here. Let my sh!t list begin, shall we?

 

1.) It doesn't matter how long GTA has been on anything. R* needs finanical support. Although PC gamers are abundant, we're not even half the cake when it comes to gaming.

 

2.) R* isn't a bunch of a$$holes for putting out the PS2 version. They're simply doing their best to put out a game that you'll enjoy.

 

3.) PC gamers DID NOT get a 'final' version of GTA3 while PS2 players got a 'beta' version. both have minor bugs. Mostly slow down. R* learned from their mistakes. Enough said.

 

4.) I'm a PC gamer and for those PC gamers out there b!tching about the amount of time it takes for the game to come out you have to realize something. Porting games isn't that easy. The movies alone have to be redone for higher resolution. The game has to SUPPORT PC specific qualities. what qualities? Here's that sh!t list:

a.) Higher resolution gaming/ movies and playable FPS

b.) Altered controls & Mouse support for aiming

c.) Glitches that aren't noticable on a 35hz TV that sure as hell are noticable at 85-170Hz of a monitor.

 

5.) PC graphics differ from PC to PC. As does performance. Do us all a favor and don't compare ALPHA BETA versions of anything to anyone. Besides, that was a leak. (I'm referring to Doom III)

 

6.) Sure R* hasn't stated a release date for the PC and it might take over 3 months. But you know what? Do you want glitches, or do you want to give them the time for quality work, or is it the fact that you're waiting to b*tch about how sh!tty the game plays?

 

7.) Another thing that caught my attention is this consoles have better graphics. Sorry, that's very ghetto-out-of-the-gutter bold face lie. PCs are far more advanced then consoles. Just because your PC or your buddies PC doesn't have gravy graphics doesn't put them in the same box. Don't try to judge PCs as you would a console. They're NOT all the same.

 

8.) Uhmm.. If you really can't stand how long it takes for PC games to come out and the cercumstances of running them, then get a console and worry less with a lot less optimizing. PCs might take a bit more tinkering, or a lot more in some cases, but the results are always 100% more satisfying if you know what you're doing.

 

9.) I play consoles until my favorite PC titles are available. I'm not narrow minded, so don't crap me out about some "no! PC graphics suck!" crap. Hell, what do you think your PS2's are based off of? a god damn Atari?! Sorry buddy, it's based off of a PC system. The wave of the future is what computers bring you. Now think of it this way, just imagine if you could swap that graphics processor on your PS2, then maybe you could b*tch about better PS2 graphics, but then you automatically lose that compatibility with all the games without tinkering around.

 

A lot of people are die-hard GTA fans. I've played the games since the first GTA too. The game has evolved. It's a unique game of it's own. Don't call it a Console game and don't fool yourselves by considering it a PC-only game. It's a GAME. Games are entitled to certain ports because you think it's best that way. The hell with what you think. If R* needed your advice, i'm sure they'd ask for it.

 

Not to sound like a bigger a$$ then i've already made myself out to be, but if you think bashing consoles or PCs will make you the better (wo)man, you're a idiot. Plain and simple. Go ahead and b!tch at R* for a quick release. I'll be knocking on your door to bash your head open when i get a crappy game that was yet another waste of time for the wait. (Look at NFS:HP2.. PIECE OF CRAP! I wish EA took the time to port it, but they rushed that!;) Now, I'm gonna go play GTA 3 on my PC with perfect framerates and jaw dropping graphics on my 1800+XP w/ a GF4 TI4200 patiently waiting for the PCs port of GTA:VC.

 

Thanks for reading. I'm sure you have a lot to b!tch at me about now, huh?  :devil:  :r*:  :rah:

 

Neno

1800+XP Volcano 9 HSF on Asus A7V8X w/ 512MB PC2100 DDR

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98766654321

why the f*ck do you guys even care about what it should be played on?

 

the game is on the pc and ps2.

 

the game has been out for months and you guys are still

bitching about how pc should of got it first.

 

usualy its the pc gamers who start sh*t becuase the ps2 gamers got a game months before them, so they are just f*cking jealous and start bitching and moaning about how ps2s are for bitches and how they suck ass.

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GTAZ
(Look at NFS:HP2.. PIECE OF CRAP! I wish EA took the time to port it, but they rushed that!;)

EA ported the Xbox and gamecube version of NFS HP2 and not the much superior PS2 version.. the PS2 version was made by BlackBox, while the Gamecube, Xbox and PC version were all made by EA Seattle.. The differences in the games are very noticable, and I too am pissed that they ported the crappy Xbox version and not the excellent PS2 version of the game.

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DemonNeno
why the f*ck do you guys even care about what it should be played on?

 

the game is on the pc and ps2.

 

the game has been out for months and you guys are still

bitching about how pc should of got it first.

 

usualy its the pc gamers who start sh*t becuase the ps2 gamers got a game months before them, so they are just f*cking jealous and start bitching and moaning about how ps2s are for bitches and how they suck ass.

And that isn't a lie, either! I strictly play PC games in my house. My buddies have PS2 and i get to play that when I'm there. Personal preference for me is the PC gaming feel. I'm just used to it, that's all.

 

Why b*tch about it when we'll get it anyways? Sure it'll be late, but if you don't play PS2 then you're not spoiling anything! heh.

 

PC gamers are as different as each PC Rig is out there.. VERY DIFFERENT!  :/ It's just all the bitching. DEAR LORD! Take Dennis Leary's (Comedian) advice.. Go to some SHUT THE FnCK UP! therapy!!

 

Neno

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