(SPOILERS) How would you have written the Johnny Scene

[Captain Arthur]

 

 

johnny's a dick? what about the sailor-molesting torture-enjoying inconsistent piece of sh*t known as trevor?

Johnny is a hypocrite. He criticizes Ashley for smoking meth when 5 years later, he did the same thing. He tells Billy that he shouldn't have broken "Pretty Boy"'s jaw when he put his head on the motorcycle's wheel.

 

Trevor has loyalty. Even when his best friend had stabbed him in the back, he still didn't kill him when he could have easily done so. He could have killed Mr. K after he tortured him but he didn't.

 

Johnny is the absolute opposite, he killed his best friend after he betrayed him. Above all, he kidnapped Roman for his piece of sh*t girlfriend.

so? niko killed one of johnny's friends before johnny kidnapped roman, and then niko killed jim afterwards. you don't seem to give a sh*t about that. f*cking hypocritical. Did I defend Niko? Did I say that he was an angel? No, I didn't. Besides, Niko killed a worthless gang member. Roman however, was an innocent person who never hurt anyone.

 

also, johnny didn't had a choice when killing billy. it was either kill a traitor or be sent to prison. The same was with Mike. Mike was gonna kill Trevor. Trevor knew it, but he still didn't kill him.

 

trevor was not loyal to mike. yes trevor didn't kill him, but he still ditched him and left him to get killed by the triad gangsters. He ditched him because he was in a emotional state. He still rescued him afterwards didn't he? If you expect someone to save another person after they figured out that they just got betrayed by that same person, you are living in a wonderland.

 

trevor didn't let mr k live because he cared about him, but just because he didn't like being told what to do. don't forget that T enjoyed torturing him. Yeah, but he still got him to the airport, didn't he? He could have just dropped him off in an alleyway with some gang bangers who could have raped him (Yeah they do that) or kill him.

 

johnny told billy he didn't need to hurt pretty boy because he already gave the info for the bike. But he still tortured the guy didn't he? He did the same thing Trevor did to Mr. K.

 

and as for johnny criticizing ash for doing drugs when five years later he does the same...... you should be hating rockstar for turning him into a hypocrite. No, it's just you people denying what is clear and obvious. As Trevor once said, Denial is a very powerful drug.

 

trevor fanboy. Now, we're just having a friendly argument but you're taking it to the next level. What did I do to you to call me a Trevor fanboy? I could call you a Johnny fanboy and a Johnny asskisser but I won't because I know that that's taking it to a personal level.

 

I wrote my thoughts in the bolded text in the quote.

Edited January 22, 2014 by Gta_V_Fan_101

[Niobium]

 

 

 

johnny's a dick? what about the sailor-molesting torture-enjoying inconsistent piece of sh*t known as trevor?

Johnny is a hypocrite. He criticizes Ashley for smoking meth when 5 years later, he did the same thing. He tells Billy that he shouldn't have broken "Pretty Boy"'s jaw when he put his head on the motorcycle's wheel.

 

Trevor has loyalty. Even when his best friend had stabbed him in the back, he still didn't kill him when he could have easily done so. He could have killed Mr. K after he tortured him but he didn't.

 

Johnny is the absolute opposite, he killed his best friend after he betrayed him. Above all, he kidnapped Roman for his piece of sh*t girlfriend.

so? niko killed one of johnny's friends before johnny kidnapped roman, and then niko killed jim afterwards. you don't seem to give a sh*t about that. f*cking hypocritical.

 

also, johnny didn't had a choice when killing billy. it was either kill a traitor or be sent to prison.

 

trevor was not loyal to mike. yes trevor didn't kill him, but he still ditched him and left him to get killed by the triad gangsters.

 

trevor didn't let mr k live because he cared about him, but just because he didn't like being told what to do. don't forget that T enjoyed torturing him.

 

johnny told billy he didn't need to hurt pretty boy because he already gave the info for the bike.

 

and as for johnny criticizing ash for doing drugs when five years later he does the same...... you should be hating rockstar for turning him into a hypocrite.

 

trevor fanboy.

Well, it's not like Trevor was pissed at Mike for absolutely no reason. Remember that Mike kind of tried to kill him in NY. Trevor did the same. Now they are even.

 

And he even comes back and helps him with those FIB/IAA/Merryweather douches.

quoting drunken cowboy:

 

Take the entire sequence with Patricia. 'Everyone always abandons me?' Funny how hitting your friends and actively being deceitful while being a self righteous prick has that effect without feeling remorse for any of it? Yeah... no.... The entire Brad ordeal has a chunk of this as well.

 

Trevor wasn't even the main target of Michael's deception either it was just a side effect, Michael chose between his criminal life and his family. That was it. Indirectly he did not choose Trevor so sure he could interpret it as a betrayal but he did not ask Dave to go and have him killed and make sure he was dead as to make his 'disappearance' complete. If anything he probably had to convince Dave to spare him. In fact Michael's mercy on Trevor is the sole thing that causes him so much grief in the first place. This makes Trevor's self righteousness all the more nauseating.

also, trevor only saved mike from the IAA and merryweather because he needed him for the big score.

Edited January 22, 2014 by nobum62

[El Zodape]

What the hell? Michael knew Trevor was suppossed to die NY. You can clearly see Brad accidently stepping in front of Trevor and taking the bullet. And even if he didn't know that Trevor was taking a bullet to the face, he was hoping for him and Brad to end up in jail at least.

 

And Trevor still helped Michael with the FIB/IAA/MW crap. Or about the whole Tracy in Fame or Shame mission. Or when he takes Patricia back to Madrazo. Or when he kills the Civil Border Patrol because of that farmer, for free.

 

Trevor has a huge ego and is an asshole for several reasons, bit he is not a "selfrighteous" dick.

 

And he saved Mike because he wants his friend back. He doesn't want to admit it so he says he needs him for the last heist.

 

This has nothing to do with Klebitz.

Edited January 22, 2014 by Zodape

[Niobium]

 

 

 

 

johnny's a dick? what about the sailor-molesting torture-enjoying inconsistent piece of sh*t known as trevor?

Johnny is a hypocrite. He criticizes Ashley for smoking meth when 5 years later, he did the same thing. He tells Billy that he shouldn't have broken "Pretty Boy"'s jaw when he put his head on the motorcycle's wheel.

 

Trevor has loyalty. Even when his best friend had stabbed him in the back, he still didn't kill him when he could have easily done so. He could have killed Mr. K after he tortured him but he didn't.

 

Johnny is the absolute opposite, he killed his best friend after he betrayed him. Above all, he kidnapped Roman for his piece of sh*t girlfriend.

so? niko killed one of johnny's friends before johnny kidnapped roman, and then niko killed jim afterwards. you don't seem to give a sh*t about that. f*cking hypocritical. Did I defend Niko? Did I say that he was an angel? No, I didn't. Besides, Niko killed a worthless gang member. Roman however, was an innocent person who never hurt anyone. then by that logic, every gta protag is a worthless gangster as well.

besides, there were so many innocents that every protag hurt or killed

 

also, johnny didn't had a choice when killing billy. it was either kill a traitor or be sent to prison. The same was with Mike. Mike was gonna kill Trevor. Trevor knew it, but he still didn't kill him. mike was gonna kill him? when?

 

trevor was not loyal to mike. yes trevor didn't kill him, but he still ditched him and left him to get killed by the triad gangsters. He ditched him because he was in a emotional state. He still rescued him afterwards didn't he? If you expect someone to save another person after they figured out that they just got betrayed by that same person, you are living in a wonderland. trevor only saved mike from the IAA because he needed him for the big one

 

trevor didn't let mr k live because he cared about him, but just because he didn't like being told what to do. don't forget that T enjoyed torturing him. Yeah, but he still got him to the airport, didn't he? He could have just dropped him off in an alleyway with some gang bangers who could have raped him (Yeah they do that) or kill him. yep, left him at the airport with NO MONEY. how will he get a plane ticket? or a doctor? if I was T I would have given mr k $5000. T has over $100,000 anyway.

 

johnny told billy he didn't need to hurt pretty boy because he already gave the info for the bike. But he still tortured the guy didn't he? He did the same thing Trevor did to Mr. K. john hurt pretty boy to get info about the deadbeats, so at least there was a reason

 

and as for johnny criticizing ash for doing drugs when five years later he does the same...... you should be hating rockstar for turning him into a hypocrite. No, it's just you people denying what is clear and obvious. As Trevor once said, Denial is a very powerful drug. someone hasnt heard the phone calls at the end of TLAD.

 

trevor fanboy. Now, we're just having a friendly argument but you're taking it to the next level. What did I do to you to call me a Trevor fanboy? I could call you a Johnny fanboy and a Johnny asskisser but I won't because I know that that's taking it to a personal level. ok that was a dick move. I'm sorry.

 

I wrote my thoughts in the bolded text in the quote.

me too.

[Captain Arthur]

1- Nope, Jim is an asskisser. He agrees to everything Johnny says or does and never objects. He has no personality

 

2- Who? Which protagonist killed an innocent person? Keep in mind, we're only talking storywise.

 

3- When they were back in Ludendorff and when you choose the Kill Trevor ending. Trevor didn't want to help Frank when you choose the kill Michael ending. Instead, he says that Frank is dead to him and calls him a traitor for killing Mike.

 

4- Nope. He wanted his friend. He doesn't admit it but he wants his best friend alive as he still likes him. If you hang out with Mike as Trevor, they both apologize to each other.

 

5- Of course he wouldn't give him money. Seriously, if you dropped a stranger at the airport, would you give him money?

 

6- And Trevor tortured Mr. K for the FIB, not for his own pleasure.

 

7- So? Ashley could have went to Johnny's house and convinced him to smoke meth. He agreed because he had nothing to live for and then got hooked into meth.

 

8- Don't worry, I forgive you.

Edited January 22, 2014 by Gta_V_Fan_101

[Fuzzknuckles]

STOP QUOTING MULTIPLE POSTS

 

Please, for the love of God, edit them down a bit. The pages are twice as long as they need to be.

 

Also, take it to PMs if you're going to play verbal tennis all afternoon.

Edited January 22, 2014 by Fuzzknuckles

[73duster]

Whatever people WISH had happened, we don't get to rewrite history. Johnny is OFFICIALLY a bitch AND drug addict whose tough side in The Lost and Damned was an aberration. It really made no sense that he was even a vice president of a biker gang, considering how he didn't get any respect from the gang president either. I enjoyed the story for what it was, but he was a very WEAK protagonist.

[CJ killed Ryder]

GTA VI:

 

Niko: "Franklin, are you f*cking Michelle/Karen again?"

 

Franklin: "Man, I thought u dumped her, dog"

 

Niko: "Yes, but we're in a Rockstar game. Continuity's not important here."

 

Franklin: "Allright, I get it, dog. Of course I f*ck her, she nice, dog."

 

Niko: "I still love her"

 

Franklin: "Don't worry, dog. Come here with me."

 

*Niko and Franklin fall from a stairs and die*

Edited January 22, 2014 by CJ killed Ryder

[a-zAo_-]

Please dont talk about Dan Houser,in fact if it wasn't for him GTA 5 wouldn't be here today

[Black & White]

Well.. I wouldn't of even added Johnny in the new game. If anything, I would of mentioned him and explain that Johnny changed his life or became an author. He would of been a perfect person to be mentioned on the news.

 

If Johnny was in that situation, I wouldn't of let Johnny be killed like that. Instead, I would allow Trevor to aim a gun at Johnny and do something humiliating to him or slap Ashley for defending Johnny and speaking too much. Then Johnny would be chased to the Lost MC headquarters. Trevor would be able to kill some Lost MC members but Johnny would escape, the player would just have to accept that. Maybe I would of mentioned that Johnny was later found killed while being involved in an AOD MC gun shoot-out or robbery.

[VolkXue]

Yah, the Lost MC was a let down over all.. They could have made something epic if they had done new school west coast bikers. The whole 80s, failed punk, dirty biker show was pretty blah though..

[CJ killed Ryder]

Trevor: "Take off ur pants cowboy, let's f*ck"

 

*John Marston appears*

 

John Marston: "Did anyone say cowboy?"

[B Dawg]

 

johnny's a dick? what about the sailor-molesting torture-enjoying inconsistent piece of sh*t known as trevor?

Johnny is a hypocrite. He criticizes Ashley for smoking meth when 5 years later, he did the same thing. He tells Billy that he shouldn't have broken "Pretty Boy"'s jaw when he put his head on the motorcycle's wheel.

 

Trevor has loyalty. Even when his best friend had stabbed him in the back, he still didn't kill him when he could have easily done so. He could have killed Mr. K after he tortured him but he didn't.

 

Johnny is the absolute opposite, he killed his best friend after he betrayed him. Above all, he kidnapped Roman for his piece of sh*t girlfriend.

There is a difference between being loyal and stupid. You'd still be loyal to a man who tried to snitch on your whole gang or loyal to someone who tried to kill you? Johnny was loyal until he was betrayed himself by his crazy paranoid president and his f*cking asslicker. Edited January 23, 2014 by B Dawg

[Captain Arthur]

 

 

johnny's a dick? what about the sailor-molesting torture-enjoying inconsistent piece of sh*t known as trevor?

Johnny is a hypocrite. He criticizes Ashley for smoking meth when 5 years later, he did the same thing. He tells Billy that he shouldn't have broken "Pretty Boy"'s jaw when he put his head on the motorcycle's wheel.

 

Trevor has loyalty. Even when his best friend had stabbed him in the back, he still didn't kill him when he could have easily done so. He could have killed Mr. K after he tortured him but he didn't.

 

Johnny is the absolute opposite, he killed his best friend after he betrayed him. Above all, he kidnapped Roman for his piece of sh*t girlfriend.

There is a difference between being loyal and stupid. You'd still be loyal to a man who tried to snitch on your whole gang or loyal to someone who tried to kill you? Johnny was loyal until he was betrayed himself by his crazy paranoid president and his f*cking asslicker.

 

Johnny was loyal? Oh yeah he was but oh wait a minute, he followed Billy's orders hesitantly every single goddamn time. Also, Mike tried to kill Trevor and Trevor still saved his life.

 

Anyways, I'll stop replying as I don't wanna de-rail this thread any further. You wanna say anything to me, send me a PM.

[B Dawg]

Hesitant because Billy's overkill decisions negatively affected The Lost. I like to see good guys die, but someone like Johnny? No.

Edited January 23, 2014 by B Dawg

[Niobium]

GTA VI:

 

Niko: "Franklin, are you f*cking Michelle/Karen again?"

 

Franklin: "Man, I thought u dumped her, dog"

 

Niko: "Yes, but we're in a Rockstar game. Continuity's not important here."

 

Franklin: "Allright, I get it, dog. Of course I f*ck her, she nice, dog."

 

Niko: "I still love her"

 

Franklin: "Don't worry, dog. Come here with me."

 

*Niko and Franklin fall from a stairs and die*

while they fall down the stairs, franklin makes his pain sounds which are "OH, OH OOMFH"

[iProinsias]

Trevor stomping Johnny K to death was a highlight of GTAV for me. I hated all the characters in TLAD, Johnny K most of all. Trevor, by contrast is so startlingly original, I loved his character from the start. He's funny, brash, intelligent AND insane, the combination just works so well. On top of that, Steven Ogg did such a BRILLIANT job doing his voice work, the character, to me, is one the most likeable, memorable characters in video game history.

[Brian359]

Amen to that.

[theworldfamous]

I loved Johnny, TLaD AND I loved that moment...section of the game actually. Wouldn't want to rewrite it.

[CJ killed Ryder]

Maybe Trevor is inconsequent as well sometimes.

 

First telling Wade it's disrespecting to women after he says "quiet that bitch Ashley", and afterwards telling Amanda she has a nice pair of tits.

 

Just noticing.

[Niobium]

maybe trevor considers "nice tits" as a compliment, I dunno

[killahmatic]

It didn't bother me a bit that Johnny was killed. In fact, It wouldn't bother me if any previous GTA character was killed, including my favorites.

 

Like I've said before, some of you may have been connected to the character of Johnny because of the game, but when R* killed him off, it just solidified the fact that these are all bad guys and they are just as likely to kill eachother off as they've done to countless NPCs. Johnny doesn't mean anything to Trevor. In Trevor's mind, Johnny was no more of a big deal than any of the other people he's killed. I liked it.

[poklane]

I would have killed Johnny off way later in the game, possibly in the final missions. I think it would have been a great part of the story if Trevor, Ron, Wade and their buddies would have been in fights and shoot outs through-out the game. EDIT: The Lost just got killed off like they were a bunch of kids.

Edited January 24, 2014 by poklane

[BLOOD]

I would have killed Johnny off way later in the game, possibly in the final missions. I think it would have been a great part of the story if Trevor, Ron, Wade and their buddies would have been in fights and shoot outs through-out the game. TLaD just got killed off like they were a bunch of kids.

SA and TLaD are the only two gang themed games in the series.

[poklane]

 

I would have killed Johnny off way later in the game, possibly in the final missions. I think it would have been a great part of the story if Trevor, Ron, Wade and their buddies would have been in fights and shoot outs through-out the game. TLaD just got killed off like they were a bunch of kids.

SA and TLaD are the only two gang themed games in the series.

 

Sorry for making a huge f*ck up. I meant the actual motor club, not the GTA IV DLC.

[xxRichter]

Trevor accepting his apology.

That's how I'd write it

(Altho Trevor saw Brad's ghost and freaked out)

Edited January 24, 2014 by xxRichter

[AnDReJ98]

Simply. I would put Luis instead, Johnny didn't deserve this. He was great character.

[iProinsias]

Simply. I would put Luis instead, Johnny didn't deserve this. He was great character.

 

No, he wasn't. He was a ripoff of Jax from "Sons of Anarchy".

[wiizardii]

God, the Johnny Klebitz cock sucking force is strong in this thread.

[wiizardii]

johnny's a dick? what about the sailor-molesting torture-enjoying inconsistent piece of sh*t known as trevor?

Stop humping on johnny's dick so much, you stupid f*cking idiot. Johnny is dead, get over it. Its a video game, not real life. Trevor is cool, he cares about his friends and people close to him. So did Johnny, but Trevor is just more of an badass, unlike Johnny.. And Johnny got into Meth. However, it was mostly that bitch Ashley's fault. But Johnny, who could easiley skip something like drugs, get into it. What Ashley did pre GTA V was proabably say ''I'll give you a blow if you do crystal meth, Johnny''. And Johnny was like ''Anything from you baby''

Edited January 24, 2014 by Phoenix_Shit