A logical argument about everything wrong about GTA online

[jdkzombie]

If you think there should be no punishment for blowing uo someones ride then you are an idiot.

 

Nobody would drive the cars they purchased and modded to their liking. To enjoy them one would need to play solo.

 

So yes, blow up my car and get bad sport? Good. f*ck you. Kill me, leave the car alone.

 

Blowing up peoples cars is the gta spirit? What f*cking medicine man have you been smoking with? The spirit is to make money. Gotta have that paper. You want to grief people and be a tool? Go do it in those special tool lobbies made for the bad sports.

 

I have no problems having a sweet shootout with people, but blowing up my car pisses me off. Even if you just paid the bill and there was no bad sport, good. Pay it. You ask how you have to pay it, how did the game know it was you? Same idea that npc car you jacked, the owner can call 1 800 thathf*ckwhostolemycar and connected right to your phone and then he calls Lester on you.

 

Bottom line, blow up personal vehicles makes you a douche. And I laugh to myself everytime I hear someone complain about getting put in a bad sport lobbt because of it.

 

Want to grief? Go play call of duty, or halo, of battlefield. You wont be missed.

[christo976]

 

 

First of all stop spreading the bullsh*t about being a COMBAT game, that's just the lamest griefer's excuse.

What the hell else is there to do? Missions get old and robbing stores is tiring. 95% of people shoot on sight.

 

uhm let me think.... races, survivals, deatmatches, LTS, air races, parachute jumping, arm wrestling, tennis, golf, bike races, stunts, selling robbed cars. oh and PVP, if the other player is in the mood.

 

 

This is a sandbox game about CRIME, you're meant to pursue your criminal career and joining partners for the jobs.

PVP is intended as a "mini-game", since it has scores, duel options etc... but is NOT the game.

Crime includes murder and blowing sh*t up.

 

GTAO revolves around combat.... Only two major things you can do with money. Cars and guns. PvP is DEFINITELY more than a "mini-game"

 

Then ask yourself why it's called Grand Theft Auto (wich is a felony) and not Kill Everything That Moves.... Go play COD, is out now.

 

 

 

it takes several cars btw, not "just one by accident"

Actually, I'm currently a bad sport for destroying around 3-4 personal vehicles that were chasing me and 1 of my friends' personal vehicles.

 

So it's pretty damn obtainable by just playing the game normally with no malicious intent.

 

Yes and the pink unicorns were sniping you from the roofs....

 

 

1) Learn to use your phone.

2) Drive and enjoy the ride, better with friends (it also unlocks an achievement)

Because my phone totally teleports me to the mission. I'd be better off just killing myself and restarting the mission than driving. It's faster. More efficient. There's no reason not to. Missions are for gaining RP and money. The less time the better.

 

Death = Efficiency

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2013 by christo976

[W3BB13]

 

Making double post for this because it looks neater.

A logical argument?

 

1 - There are plenty of players who enjoy randomly blowing up other people's personal vehicles even without being provoked. You don't think they should be punished for that?

 

No, that's part of the game. Should people be punished for killing people unprovoked? It's generally better off to destroy their vehicle too as it won't be impounded if they have a wanted level.

 

2 - See above. If you blow up my car you should have to pay for it.

 

Why? Think about this logically. If I kill you and blow up your car, how the f*ck are you going to bill me for that? Not to mention it's not in the true spirit of the GTA series.

 

3 - Where do YOU think your car should end up if you're killed? An impound is as good a place as any as far as I'm concerned, especially when you just died.

 

Where I left it when I died?

 

4 - Completely untrue. I'd say you've still got a lot to learn about the game.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible to gain money, it's just impossible to do it in a practical fashion. There's no real argument against being able to replay missions.

 

 

5 - Before you start a mission it shows you how far away you are from where the mission takes place. Use this to your advantage so you don't have to drive too far

 

Again, not the point. The point is you can ALREADY teleport to the mission. It just takes a whole two minutes. Not really any reason not to.

 

6 - All games have bugs, and if you're talking about not being able to steal other people's personal vehicles, how would you feel if you just spent a million dollars on an Adder, another $100K in mods, and then someone stole it from you? That would suck, wouldn't it? Don't bother telling me that insurance would cover it because you already complained about the insurance.

 

No, I'm talking about the hijacking NPCs. Some lobbies will mess up where no one can enter non-personal vehicles. And since Rockstar had a whole two weeks to fix online after the game was released I'd expect the game to be relatively playable.

 

Any more logical arguments?

 

You fail to realize that these are all opinions of yours. Not everyone agrees with your opinions. A lot of people enjoy the game perfectly fine the way it is. Rockstar can't possibly please every gamer out there because everyone wants something different.

 

Also, honestly, you're complaining about VERY minor things.

Edited November 9, 2013 by W3BB13

[God-eater]

I'm still waiting for the logical argument. So far OP is just complaining.

[xxRichter]

A man going around driving an Insuranced tank blowing you up repeatly.

Soon as you blow it up (After dying over 10 times trying) you end up a bad sport?

And the fact people insure their tanks to go ahead and kill once again after destroying it should be bad sport instantly.

I also hate people with RPG

RPG/NADE LAUNCHER being used should count as Bad Sports.

Don't get me started on Entity. They run you over repeatly with that.

[hostaman]

I have One FACT for you here.

 

GTA4 never provoked this level of argument and anger.

 

Regardless of your view (GTA5 is Nirvana, or GTA5 is a broken mess) R* Failed to design a game which can be enjoyed equally across all the seasoned GTA players who purchased it.

 

This means one of two things:

 

• Either they deliberately set out to make a game which was 180 degrees different to the online of GTA4, and just expected all the GTA4 players to get used to it. Of Which at least 50%* have.
• Or they had no idea what they were doing, and they have disenfranchised 50%* of the players who enjoyed GTA4 online.

 

In the same way that 60%** of players hating the ending of Mass Effect 3 means that Bioware Failed with that game, even though 40%** of players liked the ending.

 

However you cut it. R* have failed with GTAO.

 

*Of course this is a guess. I would love to see a real player satisfaction survey.

**Source is an online poll from the Bioware Social Network.

[Tayman]

Impound is the mechanic that annoys me most. I hang out in blane a lot and having to go to ls every time I die is a chore.

chores in games = bad.

 

At least add more impound lots around the map.

This would be nice.

[christo976]

Seems to me that the most complaining ones about gta online are bad sport griefers... the same people who turned gta4 online in an eternal, pointless, massive, deathmatch, wich bored me to death. Good news! Gta4 still works you can go play it your way, this one is not meant to.

 

Beside the fact that an accurate age check would blow 70% of players (and complaints) offline.

[Shenmue18]

I can see where you're coming from with the personal vehicle thing, Especially if they're driving at me and shooting me, then I'm going to blow you the f*ck up, but how could Rockstar really determine whether or not your doing it in defense of your character or just for sh*ts and giggles? I definitely agree about the whole car impound thing, I think the car should just respawn back in your garage. I know some people would whine about that being "unrealistic" but it's a video game and I'm playing to have fun, so I don't care.

[Retardation]

Don't worry OP, I agree with you

[reform]

1. Bad sport system.

 

2. Insurence

 

3. Impound.

 

4. Almost complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting.

 

5. Missions

 

6. Bugs

 

1. It only needs minor fine tuning. Blowing up player vehicles shouldn't be bad sport-worthy, ad at the same time it shouldn't cost the owner of the vehicle either. Just have destroyed vehicles turn back up in your garage (if you own one) or at the insurance company if they are destroyed by another player. Or perhaps only have bad sport effect vehicles if the vehicle is nowhere near the owner at the time.

 

2. Yeah, insurance should be payed by the owner if it's their fault, or by the insurance company if it's anyone else's fault. they shouldn't discourage combat, or encourage in-car griefing.

 

3. Yeah, being able to pay to get it out should be an option.

 

4. Money isn't that hard to make, especially t higher levels. And as an online game, progressions is SUPPOSED to be slow.

 

5. Not a problem to me. Only problem I have is that there's more emphesis on competative play than co-operative missions, and this directly influences how players interact with eachother in the rest of the game - With hostility.

 

6. I've played more buggy online games. It's still early days and at least it's relatively stable at the moment. However, if it's still in a bad shape in 5 months from now, that wouldn't be at all acceptable. For now though I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

[rebelsaurusrex]

I don't like the bad sport system but thats just me. I don't try to blow up peoples personal vehicles but lets say I'm riding around and some ass in an adder drives up and trys to kill me. Why should in the act of defending myself if I blow up said Adder should I have to pay the insurance? I mean I understand why they put it in I just don't agree with it but thats why I'm just a gamer and not a developer, I'm not sending R* any hate mail over it.

 

I have a few nice cars that I generally use just for racing, then I have a few vehicles I use for free roam fun mainly because the insurance if they do get destroyed is less than 1K. So I say the real dick in this situation is the guy driving the car with 10K insurance around town shooting at people trying to get them to blow up there car. Because a non-armored car takes less than one whole clip usually to blow up with my AP pistol.

[Odesza]

 

I fail to see any form of logical stand points.

Then explain how my argument is emotional rather than logical.

 

Seems like you're just blindly complaining instead of looking at it from a different point of view or being rational, I mean seriously look at your 4th point. There are incredibly easy ways to make quick money on here.

 

In a "practical fashion" as well.

Edited November 9, 2013 by Odesza

[SmokeDat]

I'm still waiting for the logical argument. So far OP is just complaining.

 

This.

 

Also the only logical conclusion I come to is that the OP just plain sucks at the game. Plain and simple.

 

Probably sucks at a lot more in real life as well.

 

Yay another chuckle for the day. Ha.

[B3astGTS]

 

 

 

4. Almost complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting.

 

I really don't see why we can't replay missions. Just raise the prices a little bit and bob's your uncle. Maybe create some more money sinks (new mods, businesses like in the single player, etc).

Armored trucks. 5-10k each

Bounties. 1-9k each

Simeon vehicles. 4-11k each

Crates. 1-3k each

Stolen vehicles. 2,500-9,500 each

 

That's just from free roam. I'll make at least 100k in a 2-3 hour time frame just from free roam.

 

How is there a "complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting,"?

At least be realistic like the people that say you have to race when countering his money point. You act as if the events you list are frequent and you completely ignore the costs of items in the game. Lets go through each of your free roam methods:

 

Armored Cars: Unless you get the bug where they spawn continuously this is a one time payment of up to around $15,000.

 

Bounties: This is not continuous or repeatable. You could play a whole session and not see anyone that has a bounty. You also completely ignore the fact that people typically log or hide out in their apt making the bounty impossible to claim. Also subtract ammo/death costs in trying to claim the bounty.

 

Simeon vehicles: Once again, not repeatable.

 

Crates: Don't always contain money and on top of that they don't continuously drop.

 

Stolen vehicles: Can only repeat once every 60 minutes.

 

If everything goes right maybe you make that 100K in 2-3 hours, except that other players, ammo, deaths, etc reduce or eliminate those options. On top of that the individual payouts for some of those are low. $1,000 bounties or $1,000 from a crate is nothing when a mod costs $30,000.

Edited November 9, 2013 by B3astGTS

[mmm chocolate]

4. Replay missions. - hit X at the summary screen.

 

 

( i do agree about armor being weak though, and it shouldnt get depleted by being hit by a car)

[PlasmicSnake]

If we blow up someones car we pay for it but if we kill someone we dont pay their medical bill. Maybe they should pay to replace our ammo. The whole bad sport thing is stupid because its splitting up players, so its less people to play with. Sure thats a good thing if you want to do a public non violent free roam, but when your trying to find people for races or missions it dwindles the people available.

 

Their ideas for online are great their execution is awful. They want this to be a long term deal and it can be, but most of us dont want to spend a month trying to make money, esp when there is very little mission variety. GTA4online had constant mayhem at the airport, almost everyone was their or going there and now we cant even get into the airport. We cant toggle the settings of the lobby. There too much emphasis on rank and money and thats the problem they created this class system that focuses our attention on trying to earn more instead of just having fun. We cant go into free roam level 10 and expect to have a fair chance. Weapons arent just everywhere to go pick up, we have to unlock and buy them.

 

They need to have a basic simple free roam like gta4 had where everyone was equal and could just go around being jerks or not being jerks without having to deal with consequnces. Thats why people play games, for fun and to not worry about consequences and balancing your bank account or their rank in 'society'. Thats what real life is for.

[Lunytunes]

A logical argument?

 

1 - There are plenty of players who enjoy randomly blowing up other people's personal vehicles even without being provoked. You don't think they should be punished for that?

 

2 - See above. If you blow up my car you should have to pay for it.

 

3 - Where do YOU think your car should end up if you're killed? An impound is as good a place as any as far as I'm concerned, especially when you just died.

 

4 - Completely untrue. I'd say you've still got a lot to learn about the game.

 

5 - Before you start a mission it shows you how far away you are from where the mission takes place. Use this to your advantage so you don't have to drive too far

 

6 - All games have bugs, and if you're talking about not being able to steal other people's personal vehicles, how would you feel if you just spent a million dollars on an Adder, another $100K in mods, and then someone stole it from you? That would suck, wouldn't it? Don't bother telling me that insurance would cover it because you already complained about the insurance.

 

Any more logical arguments?

Just one:

 

If this is Grand THEFT AUTO, why do we ge punished for commiting crimes against other players?

 

Grand THEFT AUTO yet you can steal cars... That's false advertising Rockstar!!!

[Gunner Eleven]

Firstly, the OP is a little bitch. If you have a logical argument, no one here can find evidence.

 

Secondly, Maybe just maybe that Rockstar wanted to promote some co-op and community into their online game. But forget about that. Bad sport points are earned by destroying personal vehicles and quitting missions/jobs early. Nearly all popular multiplayer games have a deterrent in the form of temp ban for quitting sessions early. This is employed to protect the players that remain in the session. The vehicle penalty might just be a weapon balancing measure. What What you say.

 

The RPG, sticky bomb, grenade launcher would be over-powered if it was fair game to destroy vehicles. Clealry you can still use the weapons. Clearly you can still blow up a dude's car, and clearly when you are placed in Bad Sports lobby you are playing with like-minded players. What's the problem?

 

Money? Quit crying. Play coveted or go race if you are hard up for cash. Need ammo? have a rich friend drop weapons and ammo for you, or play a gang attack/survival. Need a car? steal one. Need a car/garage? Don't be a snob and buy the lower end/affordable joints.

 

Finally, instead of complaining you should come up with alternate ways to play the game. Invite more friends and have a good time. If you just want to kill other online players, I heard that Activision has another combat slaughter for purchase.

[Ninjambie]

At least be realistic like the people that say you have to race when countering his money point. You act as if the events you list are frequent and you completely ignore the costs of items in the game. Lets go through each of your free roam methods:

Armored Cars: Unless you get the bug where they spawn continuously this is a one time payment of up to around $15,000.

 

Bounties: This is not continuous or repeatable. You could play a whole session and not see anyone that has a bounty. You also completely ignore the fact that people typically log or hide out in their apt making the bounty impossible to claim. Also subtract ammo/death costs in trying to claim the bounty.

 

Simeon vehicles: Once again, not repeatable.

 

Crates: Don't always contain money and on top of that they don't continuously drop.

 

Stolen vehicles: Can only repeat once every 60 minutes.

 

If everything goes right maybe you make that 100K in 2-3 hours, except that other players, ammo, deaths, etc reduce or eliminate those options. On top of that the individual payouts for some of those are low. $1,000 bounties or $1,000 from a crate is nothing when a mod costs $30,000.

 

They are, at least for the sessions i'm in.

 

Bounties: This is why I like BS lobbies more than GS lobbies. There are always players placing bounties on each other and players jacking pedestrians. Hardly anyone hides in their apartments or leaves when they get a bounty placed on them.

 

If you're spending 100k in 2-3 hours on players, ammo, deaths, etc you're doing something wrong.

 

You sound like one of those players who wants to make a million with little to no effort and in hardly any time.

[Zamininc]

 

4. Almost complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting.

 

I really don't see why we can't replay missions. Just raise the prices a little bit and bob's your uncle. Maybe create some more money sinks (new mods, businesses like in the single player, etc).

Armored trucks. 5-10k each

Bounties. 1-9k each

Simeon vehicles. 4-11k each

Crates. 1-3k each

Stolen vehicles. 2,500-9,500 each

 

That's just from free roam. I'll make at least 100k in a 2-3 hour time frame just from free roam.

 

How is there a "complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting,"?

 

The word I put in there should've been consistently. That you can do over and over again to gain consistent money.

 

 

 

Also, honestly, you're complaining about VERY minor things.

If they weren't minor things then I wouldn't be playing at all.

 

They're the little things that kill the fun in the game.

The thing is, half of these don't effect me. Need money? I can just buy GTA cash using real money. But why bother if the most expensive thing (tank) will make me a bad sport within 3 minutes of using it?

 

 

 

A lot of people enjoy the game perfectly fine the way it is.

That's why there's so many people complaining here and in other forums.

Edited November 9, 2013 by Zamininc

[Zamininc]

Double psot for neatness.

 

 

Firstly, the OP is a little bitch. If you have a logical argument, no one here can find evidence.

I see that half of the people on here never passed 7th grade english.

Ad hominem + not understanding the definition of logical vs emotional = underaged.

 

 

The RPG, sticky bomb, grenade launcher would be over-powered if it was fair game to destroy vehicles. Clealry you can still use the weapons. Clearly you can still blow up a dude's car, and clearly when you are placed in Bad Sports lobby you are playing with like-minded players. What's the problem?

They're already nerfed by their rank to get and cost. It's also painfully easy to avoid them/players who use them.

 

RPG = don't get close with a vehicle

Sticky = don't get close with a vehicle

Grenade launcher = don't get close with a vehicle

 

 

Money? Quit crying. Play coveted or go race if you are hard up for cash.

So in other words

"Grind THESE things instead of THESE things"

I have no problem buying cash with real money. But it'd be nice if you could re-play a mission to gain a quick couple thousand.

 

 

Invite more friends and have a good time.

Sounds great.

 

We'll make a game of killing and blowing eachother u- wait.

[Zamininc]

 

 

 

First of all stop spreading the bullsh*t about being a COMBAT game, that's just the lamest griefer's excuse.

What the hell else is there to do? Missions get old and robbing stores is tiring. 95% of people shoot on sight.

 

uhm let me think.... races, survivals, deatmatches, LTS, air races, parachute jumping, arm wrestling, tennis, golf, bike races, stunts, selling robbed cars. oh and PVP, if the other player is in the mood.

 

So in other words, races, stunts, pvp, and pvm. Notice how two of those involve combat.

 

 

This is a sandbox game about CRIME, you're meant to pursue your criminal career and joining partners for the jobs.

PVP is intended as a "mini-game", since it has scores, duel options etc... but is NOT the game.

Crime includes murder and blowing sh*t up.

 

GTAO revolves around combat.... Only two major things you can do with money. Cars and guns. PvP is DEFINITELY more than a "mini-game"

 

Then ask yourself why it's called Grand Theft Auto (wich is a felony) and not Kill Everything That Moves.... Go play COD, is out now.

 

Lol nice use of LE EPIC COD MEME. Looks like someone escaped from Reddit. So riddle me this, would you be fine if you were completely unable to kill other players?

 

it takes several cars btw, not "just one by accident"

Actually, I'm currently a bad sport for destroying around 3-4 personal vehicles that were chasing me and 1 of my friends' personal vehicles.

 

So it's pretty damn obtainable by just playing the game normally with no malicious intent.

 

Yes and the pink unicorns were sniping you from the roofs....

 

Damn unicorns.

 

 

1) Learn to use your phone.

2) Drive and enjoy the ride, better with friends (it also unlocks an achievement)

Because my phone totally teleports me to the mission. I'd be better off just killing myself and restarting the mission than driving. It's faster. More efficient. There's no reason not to. Missions are for gaining RP and money. The less time the better.

 

Death = Efficiency

 

Death: $400 worth of grenades

Completing mission: 4k

Getting teleported instantly: Priceless

 

 

 

 

[Gunner Eleven]

Zamininc,

 

Here's a logical argument for why Basketball is a terrible game.

 

I'm not good at it.

 

You should be allowed to run with the ball.

 

You should be allowed to block other players by running into them.

 

We should be allowed to slowly and intermittently move the ball from one side of the court to the other.

 

The court should be larger.

 

Instead of baskets it should just be a line at the end of the court. Move the ball passed the line and you score.

 

It should be played outside

 

Instead of hardwood it should be grass.

 

Players should have more protection like helmets and shoulder pads.

 

There needs to be more players allowed on the court at the same time.

[jpalmer2004]

I was in a lobby last night just modding my cars, playing golf and getting new tattoos. When i was at the tat shop this guy kept blowing up my car. I'd call the insurance company and send my mechanic after it. He did this about 8 times before he left.

 

Most of the time when I die from other players my car doesn't get impounded. Its at the same spot it was before i died.

 

Most of the arguments from people are based on the fact that you simply don't understand how to play the game...

[W3BB13]

A man going around driving an Insuranced tank blowing you up repeatly.

Soon as you blow it up (After dying over 10 times trying) you end up a bad sport?

And the fact people insure their tanks to go ahead and kill once again after destroying it should be bad sport instantly.

I also hate people with RPG

RPG/NADE LAUNCHER being used should count as Bad Sports.

Don't get me started on Entity. They run you over repeatly with that.

Ever heard of Invite Only and Solo Sessions? Try those out

 

I have One FACT for you here.

 

GTA4 never provoked this level of argument and anger.

If you truly believe this than you haven't been here for very long.

 

 

 

4. Almost complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting.

 

I really don't see why we can't replay missions. Just raise the prices a little bit and bob's your uncle. Maybe create some more money sinks (new mods, businesses like in the single player, etc).

Armored trucks. 5-10k each

Bounties. 1-9k each

Simeon vehicles. 4-11k each

Crates. 1-3k each

Stolen vehicles. 2,500-9,500 each

 

That's just from free roam. I'll make at least 100k in a 2-3 hour time frame just from free roam.

 

How is there a "complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting,"?

 

The word I put in there should've been consistently. That you can do over and over again to gain consistent money.

 

 

 

Also, honestly, you're complaining about VERY minor things.

If they weren't minor things then I wouldn't be playing at all.

 

They're the little things that kill the fun in the game.

The thing is, half of these don't effect me. Need money? I can just buy GTA cash using real money. But why bother if the most expensive thing (tank) will make me a bad sport within 3 minutes of using it?

 

 

 

A lot of people enjoy the game perfectly fine the way it is.

That's why there's so many people complaining here and in other forums.

 

Then go play something different and stop whining like a f*cking child.

[Zamininc]

 

A man going around driving an Insuranced tank blowing you up repeatly.

Soon as you blow it up (After dying over 10 times trying) you end up a bad sport?

And the fact people insure their tanks to go ahead and kill once again after destroying it should be bad sport instantly.

I also hate people with RPG

RPG/NADE LAUNCHER being used should count as Bad Sports.

Don't get me started on Entity. They run you over repeatly with that.

Ever heard of Invite Only and Solo Sessions? Try those out

 

I have One FACT for you here.

 

GTA4 never provoked this level of argument and anger.

If you truly believe this than you haven't been here for very long.

 

 

 

4. Almost complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting.

 

I really don't see why we can't replay missions. Just raise the prices a little bit and bob's your uncle. Maybe create some more money sinks (new mods, businesses like in the single player, etc).

Armored trucks. 5-10k each

Bounties. 1-9k each

Simeon vehicles. 4-11k each

Crates. 1-3k each

Stolen vehicles. 2,500-9,500 each

 

That's just from free roam. I'll make at least 100k in a 2-3 hour time frame just from free roam.

 

How is there a "complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting,"?

 

The word I put in there should've been consistently. That you can do over and over again to gain consistent money.

 

 

 

Also, honestly, you're complaining about VERY minor things.

If they weren't minor things then I wouldn't be playing at all.

 

They're the little things that kill the fun in the game.

The thing is, half of these don't effect me. Need money? I can just buy GTA cash using real money. But why bother if the most expensive thing (tank) will make me a bad sport within 3 minutes of using it?

 

 

 

A lot of people enjoy the game perfectly fine the way it is.

That's why there's so many people complaining here and in other forums.

 

Then go play something different and stop whining like a f*cking child.

 

What if I don't like a law in my country? Should I just move to a different one? Or should I try to change the law?

I don't think you understand the concept of a suggestion and complaint. No comapny has ever made money off of saying "buy a different product if you don't like ours". You think if 95% of people hated the taste of coke a cola they wouldn't change their formula? The "take me as is I can't change!" argument is old and generally used by snobby women.

Edited November 10, 2013 by Zamininc

[Odesza]

 

 

A man going around driving an Insuranced tank blowing you up repeatly.

Soon as you blow it up (After dying over 10 times trying) you end up a bad sport?

And the fact people insure their tanks to go ahead and kill once again after destroying it should be bad sport instantly.

I also hate people with RPG

RPG/NADE LAUNCHER being used should count as Bad Sports.

Don't get me started on Entity. They run you over repeatly with that.

Ever heard of Invite Only and Solo Sessions? Try those out

 

I have One FACT for you here.

 

GTA4 never provoked this level of argument and anger.

If you truly believe this than you haven't been here for very long.

 

 

 

4. Almost complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting.

 

I really don't see why we can't replay missions. Just raise the prices a little bit and bob's your uncle. Maybe create some more money sinks (new mods, businesses like in the single player, etc).

Armored trucks. 5-10k each

Bounties. 1-9k each

Simeon vehicles. 4-11k each

Crates. 1-3k each

Stolen vehicles. 2,500-9,500 each

 

That's just from free roam. I'll make at least 100k in a 2-3 hour time frame just from free roam.

 

How is there a "complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting,"?

 

The word I put in there should've been consistently. That you can do over and over again to gain consistent money.

 

 

 

Also, honestly, you're complaining about VERY minor things.

If they weren't minor things then I wouldn't be playing at all.

 

They're the little things that kill the fun in the game.

The thing is, half of these don't effect me. Need money? I can just buy GTA cash using real money. But why bother if the most expensive thing (tank) will make me a bad sport within 3 minutes of using it?

 

 

 

A lot of people enjoy the game perfectly fine the way it is.

That's why there's so many people complaining here and in other forums.

 

Then go play something different and stop whining like a f*cking child.

 

What if I don't like a law in my country? Should I just move to a different one? Or should I try to change the law?

I don't think you understand the concept of a suggestion and complaint. No comapny has ever made money off of saying "buy a different product if you don't like ours". You think if 95% of people hated the taste of coke a cola they wouldn't change their formula? The "take me as is I can't change!" argument is old and generally used by snobby women.

 

How is leaving a country the same as just playing a different game in your retarded mind.

Edited November 10, 2013 by Odesza

[Zamininc]

 

 

 

A man going around driving an Insuranced tank blowing you up repeatly.

Soon as you blow it up (After dying over 10 times trying) you end up a bad sport?

And the fact people insure their tanks to go ahead and kill once again after destroying it should be bad sport instantly.

I also hate people with RPG

RPG/NADE LAUNCHER being used should count as Bad Sports.

Don't get me started on Entity. They run you over repeatly with that.

Ever heard of Invite Only and Solo Sessions? Try those out

 

I have One FACT for you here.

 

GTA4 never provoked this level of argument and anger.

If you truly believe this than you haven't been here for very long.

 

 

 

4. Almost complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting.

 

I really don't see why we can't replay missions. Just raise the prices a little bit and bob's your uncle. Maybe create some more money sinks (new mods, businesses like in the single player, etc).

Armored trucks. 5-10k each

Bounties. 1-9k each

Simeon vehicles. 4-11k each

Crates. 1-3k each

Stolen vehicles. 2,500-9,500 each

 

That's just from free roam. I'll make at least 100k in a 2-3 hour time frame just from free roam.

 

How is there a "complete lack of ability to gain money without exploiting,"?

 

The word I put in there should've been consistently. That you can do over and over again to gain consistent money.

 

 

 

Also, honestly, you're complaining about VERY minor things.

If they weren't minor things then I wouldn't be playing at all.

 

They're the little things that kill the fun in the game.

The thing is, half of these don't effect me. Need money? I can just buy GTA cash using real money. But why bother if the most expensive thing (tank) will make me a bad sport within 3 minutes of using it?

 

 

 

A lot of people enjoy the game perfectly fine the way it is.

That's why there's so many people complaining here and in other forums.

 

Then go play something different and stop whining like a f*cking child.

 

What if I don't like a law in my country? Should I just move to a different one? Or should I try to change the law?

I don't think you understand the concept of a suggestion and complaint. No comapny has ever made money off of saying "buy a different product if you don't like ours". You think if 95% of people hated the taste of coke a cola they wouldn't change their formula? The "take me as is I can't change!" argument is old and generally used by snobby women.

 

How is leaving a country the same as just playing a different game a comparable thing in an argument, there's no way you're that retarded.

 

If you don't like a law in your country you should try to change it instead of just leaving the country.

If you don't like a feature in a game you should try to change it instead of just playing a different game.

 

I really don't feel that it's that hard to comprehend. And you need to learn some rules for debating. Ad hominem just shows that you have nothing else to say other than calling me a poopface.

Edited November 10, 2013 by Zamininc

[Odesza]

So just playing a different game that caters to what you're asking for (which there are many that do) is the same thing as trying to get a law in a country changed. Oooooookayyyy.

 

Protip: these aren't R* forums and these suggestions will go unheard as will your idiotic whining.

Edited November 10, 2013 by Odesza