The Online is fun but horribly flawed...

[Legit Complainer]

Yes I just joined this forum not so long ago. And no, I did not do it to troll. After playing GTAO for the past few weeks, to me it's become official that as good as the game is, at the same time it's horribly inconsistent and flat-out annoying. I'm gonna nitpick some things that annoy me for the hell of it, and even make some comparisons to red dead redemption, a game that came out 3 years ago yet does a lot more stuff better than this game.

 

1. The controls are awful. Not how your character moves, but the running and stealth. In red dead, just moving the analog made you run, and holding X (PS3) made you sprint. This was a brilliant mechanic and it's not in GTAO. Why? Does Rockstar want us getting carpal tunnel? Ironically, when you die you have to tap x to resawn faster, which is completely pointless. In red dead, all you did was tap x and boom there ya go. Next, the lack of crouch kills me. Surely in a game like this, they would at least have a crouch feature. Replacing it with stealth WOULD be a good idea, if stealth wasn't a useless and broken feature. Not to mention that it makes your character look like he's shooting while constipated.

 

2. Why can't I run while in my apartment? I'm not a big fan for spending minutes trekking from one spot to another.

 

3. Ok so we no longer have phone calls from Roman harrassing us. It's instead been replaced by your contacts harrassing you every 10 minutes. Do they think that I've forgotten about them or something? Come on... and they also call you when you're in a firefight sometimes. Terrible idea Rockstar.

 

4. The mechanic is a complete and utter retard. Sometimes he doesn't show, and half the time he drives off with your vehicle. On top of that, I find it funny how he can't deliver my car when I'm in the middle of a crowded city street.

 

5. I don't think I need to explain Passive Mode and the Bad Sport systems. They're both good ideas, but horribly flawed.

 

6. Miscellaneous annoying things such as no car engines can be left running, the pause menu takes multiple seconds to load (yes it matters), no proximity chat which was in red dead, and also the pathetic minimap. The usual one is too small and you can hardly tell when someone is coming at you top speed to run you over, and the big one is literally too big. The big one also doesn't allow you to see your health and armor, which is useless by the way, since a few bullets gets rid of super heavy armor.

 

7. The main menu is inferior to red dead. In red dead you could choose whether to start online or single player. It didn't limit you to only a few seconds, and having it automatically loading single player if you don't click anything. You could also choose whether to go in friendly or hardcore mode ASAP.

 

8. The spawn locations are a joke. Sometimes two people spawn right next to each other, or within very close range of each other. The combat is also a joke. In red dead we could run while sniping, in this game we can't, despite the fact that it can be possible.

 

9. Having your vehicle impounded is one thing, but having to steal it back without having the option to just buy it back, as well as the fact that it CONSTANTLY gets impounded is annoying. In red dead, you just whistle for your horse and boom. Instant transportation. And good luck trying to steal a car in this barren wasteland of a map with barely any vehicles and no animals. And if you steal a vehicle, you get a bounty, which is understandable, but ridiculous when it's a parked vehicle.

 

10. Everyone is the same damn color. Someone just killed you and you want revenge? Then waste 15 seconds opening the map or highlighting them to see who and where they are. In red dead, everyone was multiple colors. This made chasing after people for fights way simpler.

 

11. You can lock on to anything BUT cops in helicopters. WHY?

 

12. The cops are extremely annoying. There's no option to turn them off, and they CONSTANTLY show up, disrupting your fight with others or ramming you over. In red dead the cops wouldn't bother you unless you attacked them or an NPC. That's what we need here. And if you die while near your car, it gets impounded. Even IF you were killed by another player.

 

13. Why can't I organize the cars in my garage, or the contacts in my phone? And why do dead contacts still stay in your phone in single player?

 

14. The map is bigger than red dead, but there's NO FAST TRAVEL whatsoever. In red dead every major settlement had a transporter in it.

 

15. Deathmatches and gang assaults feel like a step back from red dead.

 

16. Everything is TOO expensive, and this is coming from a high level with plenty of money. As if spending 10 grand on a useless suppressor isn't enough, but you have to spend an unrealistic amount on ammo. In red dead, you get a set amount of bullets and when you die, you get it all back. Simple.

 

17. No bulletproof windows, no hydraulics, no nitros. Make it happen Rockstar.

 

18. Going back to the ammo problem, the ammo you lose from the grenade launcher and minigun upon death is ludicrous. If you die while you have the grenade launcher equipped, you lose 10 grenades. If you die while eqipping the minigun, you lose ALL YOUR AMMO. Yes, even if you're rank 120 and bought it. This needs an instant patch. I'm actually discouraged to use my minigun because of this.

 

19. What's the point of buying a plane or chopper when you need to drive miles just to get to it? Why can't it just conveniently spawn nearby or get delivered to us?

 

20. The contact support skills suck. The cooldown time for things like hiding yourself for one minute is ridiculous, since you gotta wait 5 minutes to use it again. The airstrike severely sucks. For something that costs 12 and a half grand, it hardly even kills the campers on rooftops, AND you gotta be close to them since you need to toss a stupid flare. The mercenaries cost less but are way more effective. That shouldn't be the case.

 

21. Other stuff feels like a step back from GTA 4 for crying out loud. It's not realistic for someone to run instead of putting their hands up when a gun is aimed at them. Same goes for attempting to drive away in your car instead of getting out with your hands up.

 

22. No AI common sense. You'd think that if I took cover behind a "close to the ground" vehicle like the entity, my character would duck a bit lower and not make himself completely vulnerable to getting shot. Or cops not caring that you have a tank and willingly going up against you to get obliterated. OR the fact that they yell "Drop the weapon!" when you're not even armed -.-

 

23. Resisting arrest by running or driving away from cops does not warrant me getting shot. Another step back from gta 4. Same goes for knocking peds out with one punch and they end up dead, instead of being unconscious or getting up and limping like in gta 4.

 

24. Mission payouts are an unbalanced joke. Balance them out individually, OR at least bring back the replay button which is void as of now for missions.

 

25. Minor things such as the fact that sometimes showering doesn't wash away scars, my parachute smoke colors are set to "no colors" when I buy a parachute even though it was set on black, and my bullpup shotgun's tint color keeps resetting to black every time I switch sessions. It doesn't happen to other guns.

 

26. Not enough details in alleyways and corners. I've lost count of how many times a noob was camping behind a corner and got me, but I didn't know that he was behind a corner because the minimap just shows a giant rectangle to show the whole block. Also, if someone is above my level, make their blip an upwards pointing arrow. I'm tired of being sniped in the face by someone on top of a roof only THEN to find out that he was above me. Meanwhile, I'm running around the ground looking for him and feeling like an ass.

 

27. Customization is awful. Unlocking different types of hoodies, such as camo instead of regular is one thing, but levelling up 10 times just to go from orange to blue is pathetic. I should be able to choose any color I want instantaneously upon purchase. If you wanna fill the gaps, then add some more stuff R*.

 

Yes I know. It's a lot of reading. And yes I know that for the most part, the majority of my complaints are rather minor. But, when you consider how many problems there are, as well as the fact that some of them complement and correlate with each other to make the game even more frustrating, there's no denying that some, if not all, of these should be fixed. I realize that getting the progress issues dealt with is the top priority for now, but come on Rockstar. Almost 5 patches and you're not even focusing on the gameplay. You're still trying to make the damn thing stable! What REALLY pisses me off about most of these complaints is the fact that most of these are just a matter of common sense. Most of them can't be implemented without the idea of it being idiotic or half-assed not coming to mind. Rockstar, please fix this stuff! It'll make the online that much better. Also, add any issues you guys would like resolved lol. And I could go on, but I think I wrote more than enough as it is.

Edited November 2, 2013 by Legit Complainer

[FeaRx]

[Omnicr0n]

Your title intrigues me, ..and then Blammo!

 

Edit: Thanks for the spacing, it was an easy read. A great list, 100% agree with it all. It's a compilation of problems well presented.

 

It's long because how could it not be considering what it is?

Edited November 2, 2013 by Omnicr0n

[Car Lover]

Really dude? How much time did you spend writing that? And not one thing in your post is new or original.

[reform]

Can't really disagree with much of that. But the game is a hell of a lot of fun and has tremendous potential if R* make the right changes.

[Is this The Guy?]

Any room in there for lack of suit options?

Edited November 2, 2013 by Thisguyherenow

[konradzuse]

did read

[Saint.]

Been seeing so much of these threads lately.

 

You're given a great game,and some people can't help but list the game as being "horribly flawed" for a few things that are missing. Give it time,it's only been up for about a month? And that's including the first 1~2 weeks where there were numerous connection issues.

 

It doesn't seem like you're suggesting anything either,your name suits you pretty well if you're not trolling. lol.

[MLO_III]

I feel ya op, but lets give the game the courtesy of 90 days to flesh itself out. Weve had 4, almost 5 patches in 30 days. Im hoping that by patch 7 or 8, gameplay mechanics get tweaked.

[Mr Fyn666]

I feel ya op, but lets give the game the courtesy of 90 days to flesh itself out. Weve had 4, almost 5 patches in 30 days. Im hoping that by patch 7 or 8, gameplay mechanics get tweaked.

 

 

 

^^^^

This

 

Well thought out OP but if you had done a search before spending time writing an essay you would see that there are multiple threads with the same issues. Heck there is even a sticky thread called Online Wish list with 700 replies and all of these points will be there as well

 

Anyways, welcome to the forum and be ready for the "Didnt read" or "Cool story bro" brigade (I think they only come out when the moon is in the east lol)

[jdkzombie]

Commendable post OP.

 

I agree with your list of complaints. Too bad Rockstar doesn't seem too enthused about fixing any of that, only halving payouts, and attempting to fix something you will never fix, and that is glitching.

[Minrath]

The cops thing is really weird, I got into GTA O and started a pursuit thinking they would only point their guns at me and arrest me. I found out the hard way that at 1 star they use shotguns......

[blackrooster_]

I'm hoping that Rockstar allows an upgrade to the grenade's blast radius. Right now, it sucks.

 

Plus, they should allow us to create entire outfits that we could quickly change into instead of hunting down each individual item. Like, you could buy a suit, smart shoes, nice watch, cool glasses, and then label all of that as something like "cool suit" or whatever and then change everything all at once. Possibly even the same with hairstyles, tats, etc. once you get to a certain level so that you can switch your hairstyle from the get-go to match your outfit without having to visit the stylist every time.

[bobblunderbust]

[SKaREO]

I hope that Rockstar will address this stuff over time, but I have my doubts.

[StateofMind15]

1 Controls are fine imo

2 agree

3 agree, theyre more annnoying than roman!

4 agree

5 agree

6 just like all the other GTAs, its fine with me

7 agree

8 agree

9 agree

10 agree

11 don't really care

12 agree

13 agree

14 There are planes, helicopters and super cars. no need for fast travel

15 deathmatches are garbage in GTAO and RDR, they should be like IV and let us open up the whole of LS or BC and take out stupid loser and kill streaks along with the damn color effect.

 

Everything else I agree with

[OhHeyBro]

Oh boy, it's another retarded reply that doesn't add anything to the conversation.

[Musician020]

There needs to be an option to remove shoes before entering an apartment. I am Asian!