talkol Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) I wish we were on the right track of exploring our way to a shiny new jetpack.. But the search hit a wall The worst thing is we can't even prove that there is a jetpack / flyable ufo. Time to cheat? Assume one of those exist and found, you are driving it, saving the game. It is now written inside your save. What if we take our current saves and write it in manually? (much like the max health/money is done) This will require some clever analysis of the save file (we have excellent starting points with the save editors already out there). Then, it will require some old fashioned brute forcing - guessing values and testing them out. I assume we'll have about 500 potential saves and we'll need to open them one by one. Anyone interested in helping out? Your save could have the jetpack inside Edited October 25, 2013 by talkol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Ahhhh! Finally spawned the damn cable car! If a jetpack exists we will find it this way! Proof: Edited October 26, 2013 by talkol dramamia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Another gem, just spawned the skylift helicopter (didn't even know it existed) Edited October 26, 2013 by talkol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralf_s Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 What in the living f*ck are you talking about?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'm going over all the vehicles in the game one by one until I get to a jetpack or ufo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamcampbell Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Good luck there finding something, IF there's something. The search has hit a wall because of the stupid kids - and it won't go anywhere that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralf_s Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 So you're changing the bit of the save file that tells the game what you're driving? Quite a clever idea as it turns out... but it's going to take you forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) That's why I need your help guys Changed the car i was driving in my save into a jet max: Edited October 26, 2013 by talkol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBrick142 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Nice! This is gonna be off-topic but can you spawn and show the name of Snowy Police Esperanto and Police Rancher XL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Got the fighter jet WetWoolley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYScout Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 is this a specific byte offset in the gamesave? what values have you already tried so I don't duplicate your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I started with all vehicles I have a corresponding string name for Like lazer = fighter jet If anyone wants to help the easiest way I think is I make a bunch of saved games and you guys help opening them I have to open each save manually and that takes forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegtauser Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I wish we were on the right track of exploring our way to a shiny new jetpack.. But the search hit a wall The worst thing is we can't even prove that there is a jetpack / flyable ufo. Time to cheat? Assume one of those exist and found, you are driving it, saving the game. It is now written inside your save. What if we take our current saves and write it in manually? (much like the max health/money is done) This will require some clever analysis of the save file (we have excellent starting points with the save editors already out there). Then, it will require some old fashioned brute forcing - guessing values and testing them out. I assume we'll have about 500 potential saves and we'll need to open them one by one. Anyone interested in helping out? Your save could have the jetpack inside is there a tool you use for this? if so where can I get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 is there a tool you use for this? if so where can I get it Google "bruteforce save data". It's a tool for ps3 that got me started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Looks familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegtauser Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 is there a tool you use for this? if so where can I get it Google "bruteforce save data". It's a tool for ps3 that got me started is brute force available for xbox too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 is there a tool you use for this? if so where can I get it Google "bruteforce save data". It's a tool for ps3 that got me started is brute force available for xbox too?No idea, sry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I think I've proven this method is working rather well. If there's a jetpack / drivable ufo I believe we have a real chance of finding it this way. I've even managed to get a vehicle only available in a mission (see my last vid), so this is really promising. Anyways, I'm stopping for now. This is taking too long. I can make 500 saved games with every possible vehicle value and upload them somewhere. I need a few volunteers with ps3s that will help open each of those saves. Hopefully the jetpack will be in one of them. If you want to help with this, plz post here AnEvilVet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilage Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I might be able to lend a hand at testing saves. It would be interesting to see if you could get the tunnel boring machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) I don't know if it was already mentioned, but the jetpack isn't considered as a vehicle but a weapon (If there's one) like in SA. So it will not be so easy.. Edited October 26, 2013 by WrathChildz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 If anyone wants to organize this search party, I'll be happy We need to setup a place where all the saves could be uploaded to, and each tester could upload a photo that corresponds to what's inside this save Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I don't know if it was already mentioned, but the jetpack isn't considered as a vehicle but a weapon (If there's one) like in SA. So it will not be so easy.. Oh really? That sux. Can't you shoot while using the jetpack in SA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yes you can if my memory is good. He handle the Jetpack with the left arm, like on the mural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Yes you can if my memory is good. He handle the Jetpack with the left arm, like on the mural.Hmm.. I assumed it would be implemented like a bicycle or a bike that can fly. Anyways.. We could still try and look for a ufo or other hidden vehicles and hope the jetpack here is a vehicle Edited October 26, 2013 by talkol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yes of course you can still try hee! I'd like to contribute but i play on 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyxian Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 But won't you have needed to have flown a jetpack at least once for this to work? Can you spawn a vehicle using this method that you've never been in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch The Zero Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yes of course you can still try hee! I'd like to contribute but i play on 360. It is possible on 360, there is a save hack editor specifically for the 360 version, google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talkol Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) But won't you have needed to have flown a jetpack at least once for this to work? Can you spawn a vehicle using this method that you've never been in?I've posted the video of a skylift helicopter (the skinny one, look above)I've never been in one before.. Never even noticed that they exist in the game before I spawned it by accident Edited October 26, 2013 by talkol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionCold85 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Im down for this! So what do I do? Get my save onto my computer? What program do I use to edit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionCold85 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Nevermind, found the program. Starting now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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