How long can one person simply "be patient".

[73duster]

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

[Odesza]

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

The actual interview in which he talked negatively about cloud computing was a bit extreme (talking about losing ownership and mentioning soviet russia lol) and he didn't really go into detail as to what the technical problems he talked about were exactly.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Odesza

[Kromix]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since the OP clearly wants an answer... patience lasts a whole lifetime. If you can't at least enjoy the core gameplay for the time being then you'll either need to be patient or just quit while your ahead... or keep playing & being bitter about a video game.

 

When I play it's a great game because I couldn't care less what my character is wearing or driving as long as the friends are friendly. So imo, this game is not only good, it's hilarious.

 

I recommend just playing for fun and taking your real lives as seriously as you current take video games. You will benefit in both RL and in this silly virtual life.

 

Peace

 

So you have now established that you are the wise and charming one, living a balanced happy life with the ability to find peace in yourself - as opposed to the OP who is retarded, unhappy and who lives a miserable life where all his priorities are screwed ?

 

Well done ...

 

Congratulations. You get it now.

 

 

That was sarcasm, you have probably heard it before whenever you dad addresses your mum at the dinner table.

 

If you were such an expert on sarcasm, you would have known I was being sarcastic as well, but you are too caught up in trying to come up with clever insults.

Dumbass.

 

 

Well you didnt post the original post, you just backed it up as wisdom - if that was sarcasm you should practice tbh ... And i wasnt trying to come up with an insult, i just stated what seemed obvious.

 

You joined just ONE week ago, for the sole purpose of bitching and moaning.

You offer NO ideas or solutions, only more juvenile rants.

I have a problem with the griefers and cheaters that ruin the online.

I offered a SOLUTION for that. I suggested that Rockstar create a separate lobby where players could not attack other players in free roam. Is that a perfect solution? No, but at least I don't just come here to complain.

It's ok to complain, but at some point, if you can't do more than THAT, then you have no right to talk garbage to people for simply understanding how online games work, and how developers usually have to address bugs and glitches POST release.

 

 

You assume a lot dude. And these complaining threads you talk about often contains good suggestions ... I know it seems like garbage to you, but i have learned alot of other ppl's problems by reading these threads. This has in-turn given me insight into my own problems with the game. Just because you dont like a discussion doesnt mean you get to censor it - or get to choose who speaks and who doesnt. Who made you the judge of what can stand and what cannot. Your contribution to this thread is telling people to shut up, while still telling them that you treat serious threads seriously. WTF, sense of entitlement yes ? And why has the fact that i signed up for this forum a week ago( actually it is 3 weeks but meh) any importance ? And your claims that you understand online gaming and yadeeyadeeya - come on dude, i could be Bill Gates for all you know ...

[AJ Lee]

hell even WWE 2k14

 

 

WOOO I'M GONNA RAPE IT ONLINE WITH AJ

[R.R]

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

[MovieGuy786]

^ just posted the most moronic president in U.S. History.

I though that Obama was Black?

[73duster]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since the OP clearly wants an answer... patience lasts a whole lifetime. If you can't at least enjoy the core gameplay for the time being then you'll either need to be patient or just quit while your ahead... or keep playing & being bitter about a video game.

 

When I play it's a great game because I couldn't care less what my character is wearing or driving as long as the friends are friendly. So imo, this game is not only good, it's hilarious.

 

I recommend just playing for fun and taking your real lives as seriously as you current take video games. You will benefit in both RL and in this silly virtual life.

 

Peace

 

So you have now established that you are the wise and charming one, living a balanced happy life with the ability to find peace in yourself - as opposed to the OP who is retarded, unhappy and who lives a miserable life where all his priorities are screwed ?

 

Well done ...

 

Congratulations. You get it now.

 

 

That was sarcasm, you have probably heard it before whenever you dad addresses your mum at the dinner table.

 

If you were such an expert on sarcasm, you would have known I was being sarcastic as well, but you are too caught up in trying to come up with clever insults.

Dumbass.

 

 

Well you didnt post the original post, you just backed it up as wisdom - if that was sarcasm you should practice tbh ... And i wasnt trying to come up with an insult, i just stated what seemed obvious.

 

You joined just ONE week ago, for the sole purpose of bitching and moaning.

You offer NO ideas or solutions, only more juvenile rants.

I have a problem with the griefers and cheaters that ruin the online.

I offered a SOLUTION for that. I suggested that Rockstar create a separate lobby where players could not attack other players in free roam. Is that a perfect solution? No, but at least I don't just come here to complain.

It's ok to complain, but at some point, if you can't do more than THAT, then you have no right to talk garbage to people for simply understanding how online games work, and how developers usually have to address bugs and glitches POST release.

 

 

You assume a lot dude. And these complaining threads you talk about often contains good suggestions ... I know it seems like garbage to you, but i have learned alot of other ppl's problems by reading these threads. This has in-turn given me insight into my own problems with the game. Just because you dont like a discussion doesnt mean you get to censor it - or get to choose who speaks and who doesnt. Who made you the judge of what can stand and what cannot. Your contribution to this thread is telling people to shut up, while still telling them that you treat serious threads seriously. WTF, sense of entitlement yes ? And why has the fact that i signed up for this forum a week ago( actually it is 3 weeks but meh) any importance ? And your claims that you understand online gaming and yadeeyadeeya - come on dude, i could be Bill Gates for all you know ...

 

I NEVER told anyone to shut up. I never tried to censor anyone.

Asking you if you have anything to offer, other than insults and complaints, doesn't mean I have a high sense of entitlement.

Page 6, and STILL no clear suggestions or solutions to whatever you are ranting about. It's easy to dismiss someone who says that they understand how online gaming often starts with rough patches, and are routinely addressed AFTER they are released to the public, without being able to deny that is a fact.

I would have expected better responses from someone as smart as YOU Mr. Bill Gates.

[DJ_Jiggles]

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

[R.R]

 

^ just posted the most moronic president in U.S. History.

I though that Obama was Black?

 

 

[Odesza]

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

[SUPAH JD]

What the f*ck happened to my thread.

Went out for a bit. Came back. Thread is filled of people arguing. And it's not with me.

Oh.

 

 

hell even WWE 2k14

 

 

WOOO I'M GONNA RAPE IT ONLINE WITH AJ

 

AND YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

[DJ_Jiggles]

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

Mind citing some of the more noteworthy examples? I'd enjoy reading about'em.

Should've put *I* instead of *we*. Didn't mean to seem like I was speaking for everyone, there.

[73duster]

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

I have to admit, i'm a bit leery about the cloud system because it's still fairly new, and it seems like a huge leap of faith for Rockstar to entrust the single biggest game ever created to it. I'm not an expert on the cloud subject though, just a console gamer.

[Odesza]

 

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

Mind citing some of the more noteworthy examples? I'd enjoy reading about'em.

Should've put *I* instead of *we*. Didn't mean to seem like I was speaking for everyone, there.

 

http://www.storsimple.com/testimonials/

 

There are quite a few MMOs that use cloud storage as well to avoid client sided hacking/exploits. You need to understand the benefits of keeping certain files/bins server sided.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Odesza

[SUPAH JD]

 

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

I have to admit, i'm a bit leery about the cloud system because it's still fairly new, and it seems like a huge leap of faith for Rockstar to entrust the single biggest game ever created to it. I'm not an expert on the cloud subject though, just a console gamer.

 

Yeah.. when he says there have been plenty of examples of the good, I can think of numerous of gaming examples for the bad.

 

Fact is, R* even made fun of the cloud servers themselves. They're a f*cking waste, and it's obvious right now, some tech just can't handle it. R* should've realized that, but f*ck NO. Cloud server time.

 

Basically, if you want it to work well? Better hope you have some serious patience and work on it. I think this is R*'s first attempt using it, with their "biggest" release. Which.. seems a bit out there.

Edited October 22, 2013 by SideburnGuru

[soldat89]

OP youre whacked out. the customization is amazing in this game

[Odesza]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

I have to admit, i'm a bit leery about the cloud system because it's still fairly new, and it seems like a huge leap of faith for Rockstar to entrust the single biggest game ever created to it. I'm not an expert on the cloud subject though, just a console gamer.

 

Yeah.. when he says there have been plenty of examples of the good, I can think of numerous of gaming examples for the bad.

 

Fact is, R* even made fun of the cloud servers themselves. They're a f*cking waste, and it's obvious right now, some tech just can't handle it. R* should've realized that, but f*ck NO. Cloud server time.

 

Basically, if you want it to work well? Better hope you have some serious patience and work on it. I think this is R*'s first attempt using it, with their "biggest" release. Which.. seems a bit out there.

 

lol you literally have no idea what you're talking about.

[SUPAH JD]

OP youre whacked out. the customization is amazing in this game

Compared to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

I have to admit, i'm a bit leery about the cloud system because it's still fairly new, and it seems like a huge leap of faith for Rockstar to entrust the single biggest game ever created to it. I'm not an expert on the cloud subject though, just a console gamer.

 

Yeah.. when he says there have been plenty of examples of the good, I can think of numerous of gaming examples for the bad.

 

Fact is, R* even made fun of the cloud servers themselves. They're a f*cking waste, and it's obvious right now, some tech just can't handle it. R* should've realized that, but f*ck NO. Cloud server time.

 

Basically, if you want it to work well? Better hope you have some serious patience and work on it. I think this is R*'s first attempt using it, with their "biggest" release. Which.. seems a bit out there.

 

lol you literally have no idea what you're talking about.

 

I forgot.

 

This kid is the expert. My bad.

 

Yeah, Cloud servers are really showing how great they work.

 

http://jpdesigntheory.com/10-reasons-why-cloud-storage-sucks/

 

The one benefit, going by all my sources is that it's cheaper for companies, it's convient, but also very limited and takes some time to get down.

 

But yeah, you and your MMO knowledge. You can Google some other links if you want.

Edited October 22, 2013 by SideburnGuru

[R.R]

OP youre whacked out. the customization is amazing in this game

 

[73duster]

Well, as far as the cloud servers go, i'm not sure HOW I feel about it. I'm not smart enough to understand how it is a better way to go, but I also take Rockstar's history into account. I give them the benefit of the doubt, and every reputable company seems to be banking on it becoming THE way to go.

As of now, i'm still able to enjoy the game in spite of the issues because i'm not particularly as obsessed with the money or status part of it. I've had to start from scratch a couple of time in the beginning, but it hasn't ruined the fun of racing or completing missions for me. I understand that it is a long term online experience that is supposed to grow as time goes by.

[DopeSack]

patience 3 weeks into a open beta basically your kidding right we have barely scratched the surface of a proper beta to give you a lil perspective on a online game currently in development and in a closed beta elder scrolls online went into beta in MAY of this year and it is not listed for release until spring of 2014 that puts its beta at 10+ months and when it goes live i would be willing to bet they have its fair share of problems

 

now i will agree data loss is a HUGE problem especially in a game that is based heavily in rank

 

weekly statements is a complete joke weekly patches is the industry standard tho

 

thats just a cpl issues i personally have w/ R* over this i wont type them all out as i feel its counter perductive but i do enjoy this game when it works as intended so i will keep plugging along my sugggestion is maybe take a week or 2 off and comeback and see if its going better especially since i think we have another month or more before we start seeing any DLC for this game

Edited October 22, 2013 by DopeSack

[Odesza]

 

OP youre whacked out. the customization is amazing in this game

Compared to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

I have to admit, i'm a bit leery about the cloud system because it's still fairly new, and it seems like a huge leap of faith for Rockstar to entrust the single biggest game ever created to it. I'm not an expert on the cloud subject though, just a console gamer.

 

Yeah.. when he says there have been plenty of examples of the good, I can think of numerous of gaming examples for the bad.

 

Fact is, R* even made fun of the cloud servers themselves. They're a f*cking waste, and it's obvious right now, some tech just can't handle it. R* should've realized that, but f*ck NO. Cloud server time.

 

Basically, if you want it to work well? Better hope you have some serious patience and work on it. I think this is R*'s first attempt using it, with their "biggest" release. Which.. seems a bit out there.

 

lol you literally have no idea what you're talking about.

 

I forgot.

 

This kid is the expert. My bad.

 

Yeah, Cloud servers are really showing how great they work.

 

http://jpdesigntheory.com/10-reasons-why-cloud-storage-sucks/

 

The one benefit, going by all my sources is that it's cheaper for companies, it's convient, but also very limited and takes some time to get down.

 

But yeah, you and your MMO knowledge. You can Google some other links if you want.

 

First off, 23, not a kid.

 

Secondly you have 0 idea what the actual benefits of keeping files/bins server sided are and I don't expect you to so there's really no point in trying to explain to you because you act like both a child and an idiot.

 

Most importantly, look at the 10 reasons in that link you posted, please.

 

• Your files could be lost if you forget to pay for your online storage - Do you think Rockstar or any large company is gonna forget to pay the bills?
• Security breaches could leave your secured files vulnerable - Possible, but not likely.
• Must have an internet connection to access your files - Why would you not have this for ONLINE games
• Could take more time to sync large files than its worth - Slight downside but is fixable/manageable.
• Your files may be subject to the Patriot Act - Why does this matter to you on GTA V or any other big game?
• Storage company could fold without warning - Backups hururuhururuhuru
• Servers could go down temporarily or for a long period of time - Backups hururuhururuhuru
• No recycle bin for deleted files - Literally does not matter that much
• Encryption may be limited - keyword "MAY"
• Lack of available technical support - Again why does this matter to you

 

You're clearly talking out your ass and probably posted the first link that came up for your google search.

 

 

tl;dr you're an idiot OP and you act like you're 13 and you have the same intelligence and reasoning as a 13 year old.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Odesza

[theadmiral]

OK guys im not sure what is going on can anyone catch me up?

 

 

[SUPAH JD]

"I'm 23"
>Continues to throw out random insults and stoop to my level.

Well, it's a good thing age means maturity.

You took down, what, 5 reasons? As for that "BACK UPS". Yeah. That goes well if the Cloud accidently loses the files. Care to explain how a back up has helped the people with deleted characters? Maybe I'm missing something, but quite a few people who had their game "saved" lost their characters.

"Lack of avabile technical support." Yeah, it doesn't really matter since R* isn't really too keen on support anyway.

Recycle Bin for deleted files DO really matter.

First off, 23, not a kid.

 

 

This kid is the expert. My bad.

Yeah, Cloud servers are really showing how great they work.

http://jpdesigntheory.com/10-reasons-why-cloud-storage-sucks/

The one benefit, going by all my sources is that it's cheaper for companies, it's convient, but also very limited and takes some time to get down.

But yeah, you and your MMO knowledge. You can Google some other links if you want.

lol you literally have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Yeah.. when he says there have been plenty of examples of the good, I can think of numerous of gaming examples for the bad.

Fact is, R* even made fun of the cloud servers themselves. They're a f*cking waste, and it's obvious right now, some tech just can't handle it. R* should've realized that, but f*ck NO. Cloud server time.

Basically, if you want it to work well? Better hope you have some serious patience and work on it. I think this is R*'s first attempt using it, with their "biggest" release. Which.. seems a bit out there.

I have to admit, i'm a bit leery about the cloud system because it's still fairly new, and it seems like a huge leap of faith for Rockstar to entrust the single biggest game ever created to it. I'm not an expert on the cloud subject though, just a console gamer.

 

Cloud storage can be extremely reliable and there have been plenty of examples of the good side.

 

Teething problems are what makes me paranoid of new technological advances. The cloud has the potential to be great, but we haven't seen that side, yet. We've only seen the ugly side so far. Until the cloud is reliable, I'd rather be able to save straight to my system storage. I've lost more progress in the last 3 weeks than in the 21 years I've been gaming.

 

 

 

 

I have little patience anymore. Bethesda already sucked away most of it with their treatment of PS3 players. What I have left is reserved for reasonable problems.

Servers having trouble with load? Fine. I can accept and unerstand there'll be stability issues. However, I will NEVER have patience regarding data loss. I've had 17 characters corrupted , 2 eaten by the Cloud Monster and14 levels and 300k+ lost on my current. I'm on the verge of giving up at this point. They had 2 extra weeks to get their sh*t together and failed. It's been 3 weeks since launch and they STILL haven't gotten the data loss fixed.

 

Less nerfing and more FIXING, R*.

THIS is a reasonable post.

I agree about the data loss being a big problem. There has been a lot of negativity towards cloud, including some very interesting comments by Steve Wozniak, who does NOT like this tech. I'm not very tech savvy, but this guy IS, and I found his negative view of cloud to be alarming.

 

Feel sorry for you Jiggles, I hope your problem gets sorted sooner rather than later. I'd be keeping up a constant dialogue with RS if I was you, it may help.

 

Regarding cloud technology - there's nothing inherently wrong with the technology. It's going to have teething problems - but other cloud systems that are under less stress than this work perfectly - so once RS get over the teething problems, the system should be fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I forgot.

 

 

Secondly you have 0 idea what the actual benefits of keeping files/bins server sided are and I don't expect you to so there's really no point in trying to explain to you because you act like both a child and an idiot.

 

Most importantly, look at the 10 reasons in that link you posted, please.

 

• Your files could be lost if you forget to pay for your online storage - Do you think Rockstar or any large company is gonna forget to pay the bills?
• Security breaches could leave your secured files vulnerable - Possible, but not likely.
• Must have an internet connection to access your files - Why would you not have this for ONLINE games
• Could take more time to sync large files than its worth - Slight downside but is fixable/manageable.
• Your files may be subject to the Patriot Act - Why does this matter to you on GTA V or any other big game?
• Storage company could fold without warning - Backups hururuhururuhuru
• Servers could go down temporarily or for a long period of time - Backups hururuhururuhuru
• No recycle bin for deleted files - Literally does not matter that much
• Encryption may be limited - keyword "MAY"
• Lack of available technical support - Again why does this matter to you

 

You're clearly talking out your ass and probably posted the first link that came up for your google search.

 

 

tl;dr you're an idiot OP and you act like you're 13 and you have the same intelligence and reasoning as a 13 year old.

 

[Odesza]

Think you could organize your post so it's actually readable and not jumbled everywhere with c/p?

 

Thanks!

[theadmiral]

Thesis statement I never played world of warcraft

Edited October 22, 2013 by theadmiral

[SUPAH JD]

Think you could organize your post so it's actually readable and not jumbled everywhere with c/p?

 

Thanks!

Aw. That's a bitch. Told me too many quote boxes so I pretty much cleared them all out.

 

I pretty much said that the back up isn't really going so well with R* it seems like. Unless you care to explain how backed up characters are still being lost, it seems like. And how technical support doesn't matter with R* since they're not too keen with it.

 

I also said it's a good thing you're 23. You surely act like it, with your witty insults.

 

[theadmiral]

 

Think you could organize your post so it's actually readable and not jumbled everywhere with c/p?

 

Thanks!

Aw. That's a bitch. Told me too many quote boxes so I pretty much cleared them all out.

 

I pretty much said that the back up isn't really going so well with R* it seems like. Unless you care to explain how backed up characters are still being lost, it seems like. And how technical support doesn't matter with R* since they're not too keen with it.

 

I also said it's a good thing you're 23. You surely act like it, with your witty insults.

 

 

I think you probably a rent that mad atr rockstar if you continue to post here or something because if you were that mad you'd just not post and not play right? So you have some hope or something for this game.

[Odesza]

 

Think you could organize your post so it's actually readable and not jumbled everywhere with c/p?

 

Thanks!

Aw. That's a bitch. Told me too many quote boxes so I pretty much cleared them all out.

 

I pretty much said that the back up isn't really going so well with R* it seems like. Unless you care to explain how backed up characters are still being lost, it seems like. And how technical support doesn't matter with R* since they're not too keen with it.

 

I also said it's a good thing you're 23. You surely act like it, with your witty insults.

 

 

It really depends on how exactly the back-ups are being corrupted (which I assume is why they can't restore), if you actually read the link you posted you'd see that physical back-ups are the smart thing to do when using cloud storage, so if the physical back-ups themselves are corrupted for R* then cloud storage isn't to blame.

 

And technical support doesn't matter in the context we're regarding cloud storage in, that is R*s problem with their server providers, not ours. But in general of technical support that is completely based off opinion, it clearly depends on the hosting provider you are using.

 

Why would I not make low insults towards you? It seems to be the only thing you can understand.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Odesza

[SUPAH JD]

 

 

Think you could organize your post so it's actually readable and not jumbled everywhere with c/p?

 

Thanks!

Aw. That's a bitch. Told me too many quote boxes so I pretty much cleared them all out.

 

I pretty much said that the back up isn't really going so well with R* it seems like. Unless you care to explain how backed up characters are still being lost, it seems like. And how technical support doesn't matter with R* since they're not too keen with it.

 

I also said it's a good thing you're 23. You surely act like it, with your witty insults.

 

 

It really depends on how exactly the back-ups are being corrupted, if you actually read the link you posted you'd see that physical back-ups are the smart thing to do when using cloud storage, so if the physical back-ups themselves are corrupted for R* then cloud storage isn't to blame.

 

And technical support doesn't matter in the context we're regarding cloud storage in, that is R*s problem with their server providers, not ours. But in general that is completely based off opinion, it clearly depends on the hosting provider you are using.

 

Why would I not make low insults towards you? It seems to be the only thing you can understand.

 

@Theadmiral.

 

I do want to have hope for this game. Holy hell, when they first announced it I was so damn pumped. I wasn't even thinking about SP. I was too hype for Online. Couldn't even get on for the longest time. Was let down by customization. Let down by the way they handled stores. Let down by the fact there's no animals. How weird it is when you're done with a mission you get split up with friends. Etc. And there's still issues going on.

 

Maybe it's because the fact I was so hyped for this at the start that my patience is running so low? No idea.

 

Anyway, back onto the quoted post. Okay, so let's say Cloud isn't too blame. Can we at least say then, R* isn't truly showing any good capable skills of handling the Cloud well, and maybe they jumped the gun with trying to use it?