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scrublord

Is Electronic Music "Real Music"?

Is Electronic Music "Real Music"?  

111 members have voted

  1. 1. Is Electronic Music "Real Music"?

    • No
      25
    • Yes
      86
  2. 2. Does producing Electronic Music require a significant amount of talent?

    • Yes
      84
    • No
      27


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scrublord

A lot of people believe that Electronic Music shouldn't be classified as real music. This includes genres like Trance, House, Drum and Bass, Dubstep, Hardstyle, etc.. I've heard many arguments from both sides of this topic. Some people say it's inauthentic or artificial and requires no talent to produce while fans of the genre believe the opposite. What do you guys think?

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scrublord

I personally love Electronic Music and some of my favorite songs and genres come from it. People who think that is requires no talent have obviously never tried it themselves.

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Tyler

A lot of people believe that Electronic Music shouldn't be classified as real music.

 

Those people are demonstrably wrong and also ignorant to the amount of work it takes to make music in general.

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Kiffster

I love electronic music. House, techno, dubsteb, glitch hop, whatever I love it all! I listen to it all the time

 

Of course it's real music, and of course it requires a lot of talent to make good music.

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Fireman

This poll would apply better to noise music

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Dealux

I don't think it matters how much time was put into it as long as people can enjoy it. Maybe there will come a time when it will be extremely easy to make music, but it will still be enjoyable.

 

Also, people who say it's easy to make electronic music should actually try it. I've never heard an electronic music composer say that it's easy. It can be more complicated than acoustic music since some artists create sounds from scratch. I think mastering\mixing electronic music is harder too. Composing might be easier in some cases when it comes to this genre because you don't actually have to know how to play an instrument, but it still takes creativity.

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ryuclan

Anyone with the gall to think they can say what isn't music is probably an idiot. One of those types who think they know what art is or poetry.

Edited by ryuclan

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B Dawg

If it sucks balls, then it isn't music. If it's good, then it's music. Simple as that :p

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Laura91

This poll would apply better to noise music

I love Noise. Contrary to what people think, it does take some skill to make GOOD noise music. People that can't tell the difference simply aren't listening. This same argument occurs within the noise scene itself so it isn't just "outsiders" that make this argument.

 

I like pretty much every kind of music. Noise, Techno, Hip-Hop, Ambient, etc (as far electronic genres are concerned.) I'm just very picky about what I like.

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Mister Pink

Without a doubt Electronic music is music and it's f*cking very hard to make most of the time. Having said that, I can make a simple electronic track in a few minutes but it will sound sh*te. Whoever voted contrary is an idiot and doesn't know anything about music.

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Bigs

You'll likely never catch me listening to electronic music in my free time, but of course it falls within the parameters of "music" and I'm certain it requires as much skill as it would to write, say, a tasty guitar lick!

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bmwdriver

I love electronic music and yes the artist must be great to deliver some quality stuff.

 

But there's some stuff out there that you just can't call it 'music'.

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El Dildo
But there's some stuff out there that you just can't call it 'music'.

unfortunately there's no truth to that.

 

music - much like beauty, art, or anything that is subjective - is in the eye of the beholder. we certainly have the right to objectify it and say "this sucks! your taste in music blows!" but at the end of the day, as long as at least ONE person is listening to it and enjoying it, then it's all music.

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bmwdriver

 

But there's some stuff out there that you just can't call it 'music'.

unfortunately there's no truth to that.

 

music - much like beauty, art, or anything that is subjective - is in the eye of the beholder. we certainly have the right to objectify it and say "this sucks! your taste in music blows!" but at the end of the day, as long as at least ONE person is listening to it and enjoying it, then it's all music.

 

 

Yeah you're right

 

I didn't think that way..

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Mr. House

This poll would apply better to noise music

Well a lot more people would say no, but that doesn't mean they're right.

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Dealux

 

This poll would apply better to noise music

I love Noise. Contrary to what people think, it does take some skill to make GOOD noise music. People that can't tell the difference simply aren't listening. This same argument occurs within the noise scene itself so it isn't just "outsiders" that make this argument.

I don't listen to a lot of that, but I can honestly say I even enjoy listening to real life sounds\noises, like engines or just whatever ambient sound. It's relaxing and kind of cool to study the sound.

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Fireman

It would make the discussion more viable though, since I could ask you what makes certain noise music good, and you wouldn't be able to explain it and then say I just don't understand and then the discussion would be atleast 3 replies longer.

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Laura91

It would make the discussion more viable though, since I could ask you what makes certain noise music good, and you wouldn't be able to explain it and then say I just don't understand and then the discussion would be atleast 3 replies longer.

What makes good Noise is the ability to listen to what you are doing, knowing what components of your set up work well when configured in certain ways, creating plenty of variety within what you do by utilizing different techniques (using fast cut-ups ala Macronympha, dense layering, etc). Having said that, some simple methods will also work well if the artist knows how to use them effectively. But if someone has a bias against Noise and just wants to bitch, none of this matters anyway and the person posting is nothing more than a troll that just wants to talk sh*t with no regards for a true discussion.

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Mr. Scratch

Of course electronic music is real music, Amon Tobin is the most noteworthy example. The man sampled f*cking ants.

 

 

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bread

Whoever thinks electronic music isn't real music is a f*cking idiot.

 

 

 

 

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Xerukal

One word;

 

Bonfire

 

 

 

I don't usually like dubstep, myself. But I just love this. I think Electronic music classifies as music just fine. It's just that some like to butcher the concept of it endlessly, like Skrillex.

Edited by Xerukal

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WinterEdit

I think every kind of music requires talent.

 

Electronic music requires talent in creating good sounding stuff with a program (or a keyboard/synthesizer). I tried doing something with a program once and it was confusing. Even more confusing than the current layout of YouTube, I would say.

Then again, music like rock or country requires talent in playing in a band (and playing the instrument).

 

As for if electronic music is real music, it is an opinion. For example, I like electronic music and gladly say it's music, but I don't see a point when someone listens to opera. I'd not consider it "real" music, but someone else would.

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Lock n' Stock

It depends what type of electronic music. I do like alot of techno, house, early synthpop, breakbeat, drum-and-bass, electro e.g. Not so much a dubstep fan.

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ShadowDog94

Of course it's real music. Just because it doesn't use ''traditional'' instruments doesn't mean it isn't music. Personally I don't really listen to a lot of it as I find it kind of repetitive, but If it's pleasing to someone's ear then it is music.

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W3BB13

I can't stand dubstep or techno or any of that stuff, but it's definitely music and it requires skill to produce.

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theNGclan

There are people who listen to sounds of things falling and crashing, creepy winds and such. And that's considered music. So I've come to the conclusion that if you enjoy listening to a certain type of set of sounds, it's music. That's all really music is, anyway, just an orchestrated line of sounds.

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ShadowDog94

There are people who listen to sounds of things falling and crashing, creepy winds and such. And that's considered music. So I've come to the conclusion that if you enjoy listening to a certain type of set of sounds, it's music. That's all really music is, anyway, just an orchestrated line of sounds.

Yeah, most people would probably perceive early industrial like Throbbing Gristle as not music and just a bunch of noise, and I totally understand that. But I enjoy the creepy atmosphere that this type of music conveys. It's basically the ''horror movie'' version of music. It's designed to creep you out.

 

In the end, if someone finds a certain sound pleasing in some way, then it is definitely music.

Edited by ShadowDog94

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I<3GTAV

Anything with rhythm can be classified as real music. And yes, I do believe it requires lots of talent.

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