Prediction: Heists will be a massive letdown.

[Kendoyid]

 

 

Yea.. I also believe they will get old soon with not much profits.

 

I dont mind 5-7 heists but there should be two options to go like SP. Otherwise what was the point of planning rooms?

Its not only the "not much profit" , it's also that 75 percent of the player base has cheated to have more money than they ever will need. Will these repetitive missions be fun for players that have nothing left to purchase because they have 300 mil in the bank? (I've not done this but nearly everyone has)

 

Yea.. Heists were supposed to be the big jobs that everyone would be looking forward to make big amount of money. It was like a mainevent of the game after which people were supposed to get expensive stuff. Also, not everyone who glitched has made 1000's of billions of cash... I doubt the majority of glitchers have made that kind of money from glitching. I did it.. and only for the cars and mods. So lets say someone has a few millions in his bank.... it will eventually go away in a few months. With medical bills, car insurance & ammo.. the money will go away unless people stop playing the game before they're out of money.

 

But yea, I understand your point. Will it be fun when its not the reward you are looking for but are just in it for the thrill?... I think so.. it depends on how things will work. It is a great concept and can be very interesting. Lets see how Rockstar will handle this.

 

but if heists pay out millions, in a couple of months if rockstar add more content everyone will be saying why bother we already have more money than we need.if people aint enjoing actually playing the game then once they have spent their millions they will stop playing within a week from boredom of not wanting or needing to grind.

[jared72404]

 

All of you fail to realize this is the first time Rockstar has ever tried to enter the online mmo-ish type game. It's been in development since GTA3, I guarantee you Rockstar doesn't always get things right at first but they always deliever. Ye have little faith

IV was their first attempt at online multiplayer, and guess what? It f*cking worked. It was damn good. Then they threw it away and made something much f*cking worse. If this really was in development since GTA3, well, they wasted their f*cking time.

 

In a lot of peoples opinion this is already much better than GTA IV's online. While I did enjoy the online part of IV it was short lived because you had everything immediately. I enjoy the mmo aspect of this game, and the character progession. I feel this will keep people playing for much longer, and have a much better overall experience.

 

People are forgetting that this has been out for less than a month, and there were several issues that rockstar has had to work on that they may not have expected or been prepared for. It seems to me that these issues are about ironed out, and I expect they will release some DLC within the next month or two, maybe sooner or maybe later, just have patience and this game will continue to improve.

[Itsagimp]

 

 

You know what boggles me, why do people keep playing games that they say aren't giving them enjoyment? What kind of messed up logic sends people down that path? If a game stops being fun, I personally will stop playing it because it no longer holds entertainment value.

lol yup,they sit there playing it all night still & then come on here afterwards & whine that the game is useless,me thinks some people need a life,or maybe just a new game.Or stop acting like brats, move on. If I don't like a game then I stop wasting my time on it, and especially stop going to the games forums.

 

Heists will be fun like the SP, and there will probably be 2-3 upon release.

 

Then all the brats will complain how much the game sucks, yada yada yada.

 

I know I will be damn sure not to visit the forums when the heists get released cause it will be the ADD brats whining ' omg I waited for this?! I beat the heists in a night, waaahhhhh waaahhh'

 

Gta4 was ok, but hosts had too much control and it seemed to be always rocket launchers only mode after a month online.

 

I really don't get why people care to play same mode over and over, drives me crazy

Edited October 18, 2013 by Itsagimp

[ShopToCustomer]

 

Use your disc as a frisbee and STFU

If you don't want to have an intelligent conversation, go throw your toys out the pram somewhere else and leave the adults to the topic at hand.

 

its only a game kid, calm your jimmies and put your dummy back in.

[RockysAMV]

 

I agree i think the heists will have tiny payouts and youll probably have to spend money on buying vehicles or heist related items that are not cheap. Like buying a million dollar plane or bribing the cops or someone or the mission giver will take the largest portion of the cut. Heists probably wont even be replayable or they will which will be why the payouts will be so low. Id be surprised if a heist payout gave us a 6 figure payout that resulted in it being all profit.

I agree with the heist not paying out 6 figures or more, unless they release several items that are quite a bit more expensive than what is out now. Would make it ridiculously easy to buy anything at that point.

 

Agreed

[Saint.]

Looking forward to it just to play with my friends. Don't really care about the payout,just looking for some fun tbh. I'm sure it'll be a different experience compared to normal missions

[Reaper21321]

Considering how poor a lot of the missions that we have right now, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[Itsagimp]

Be cool if they made heists free aim only, that way it'd actually take some skill to beat

[jared72404]

Be cool if they made heists free aim only, that way it'd actually take some skill to beat

That's not a bad idea at all, I agree they should be way more difficult than any mission ive played yet.

[GRINCH ASS BITCH]

I find your lack of fath, disturbing.

 

After everything that has happened in the last two weeks, I'd consider the faithful ones to be even more disturbing.

[lemurbeamur]

I understand the high expectations for GTA:O. This is one of the most highly anticipated games of all time. But before you guys go shooting R* down, consider the tremendous workload involved in creating a game like this, the mechanics, every last detail. Do you really think they can please the entire player base? Actually let me rephrase: Do you really think they can please the entire player base within the first month of launch? Absolutely not. I have never seen a game this huge launch flawlessly and receive nothing but praise from the community.

 

For the most part, I think you guys are setting yourselves up to be let down from the very beginning. Expecting there to be no initial server problems when millions of people are all trying to connect AT THE SAME TIME? Expecting that within 20 days of the online launch, people wouldn't find glitches and exploits to provide an unfair advantage? Come on people, I'm not saying these aren't legitimate complaints, but perhaps you wouldn't be so let down if your hopes weren't so high.

 

Also, let us not forget that this is an online game. Online games can be fixed, updated. This is a development team that has been quoted to say they encourage suggestions from the community. Although most of what I'm seeing are complaints rather than suggestions, if you think for a second they aren't being heard and considered, I don't know why you bought and continue buying games from R*.

 

They have already addressed their server issues and are giving us an apologetic 500k for free. In regards to this thread, the heists have not been released yet and already the expectation to fail is huge. Your hopes aren't high I'm aware but even if on launch day the heists meet your low expectations and end up being a huge f*ckfest of nonsense, let me state again: They can be improved and fixed with a simple update. No doubt in my mind that you guys will nuke the forums with your complaints, R* will hear about it and within a couple weeks your whining and complaining will have paid off.

 

Am I 100% content with online as of right now? Nope, and I don't think there is a single person that is. Everyone can think of a way that this can all be improved in one way or another. What makes me see it all differently is that I see my $60 as an investment. I got, and still am getting my moneys worth from SP alone. Hours invested and I still haven't hit 100%. I know for a fact that online is an ever changing project and it can only continue to get better.

 

TL;DR Give R* a break. They've already set a milestone for the console generation. The bar is higher than ever before and they have only started to amaze us. GTA Online will be huge, it's still f*cking October. Sure they could've waited longer than 2 weeks for the online launch, but this is exactly what they wanted: feedback from the community. Constructive criticism only makes this game better.

[Bill Nye the Spy]

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's gonna suck. Here's the things I see as a possibility.

 

A:

We get to do a heist mission once a week that's payout is maybe up to 200k. (But really it prolly pays up to 100k)

 

B:

You can do it as many times as you want, but takes a while to set up and pays out around 50-100k.

[theadmiral]

I'm glad there are some good replies here.

 

I'm still missing how any heist will be any different from Titan of a job or any other mission, even if you lump 20 steps together it is still 20 repetitive tasks that are nothing new at all.

 

I'm still missing how the higher payouts are relevant considering 75 percent of the game already has millions and millions and nothing to spend it on

 

I'm still missing how any new content can possibly be any different from go to point A, get this vehicle, go to point b, kill some guys, pick this up, go to point C.

 

 

Some may say to give Rockstar a chance but I just fail to see what they can possibly add that is not just more of the absolute same old same old that has already bored players out of their mind in GTAO so far.

 

What are you going to spend these millions on? Once you have an apartment and a fast car there is nothing left to buy.

 

What are these innovative new weapons going to be? Everything is already covered pretty much. Are we going to add lasers or something?

 

I'd hate to be a pessimist but I fail to see how these will improve the game in any way shape or form and I definitely fail to see how they will be worth paying RL money for if rockstar goes down that route.

 

I am definitely judging the product before I see it, but I think that once they come out, people reading this post in hindsight will see that this judgement , however pessimistic it may be, is 100 percent accurate.

 

The same people defending Rockstar on this are the same people who said glitching wouldn't mess the game up, the stock market would be awesome and we'd all be getting rich investing in AmmuNation stock, etc etc etc.

 

Every single thing about this game thus far has been an absolute 100 percent let down. That doesn't mean it's not playable or somewhat entertaining, I just don't see it getting any better, only worse.

 

We are basically talking about World of Warcraft adding a new raid here.

Edited October 18, 2013 by theadmiral

[DeadZombie]

I predict they will be awesome. And that you'll only be able to do them every so many days.

 

It's as basic as the single player for told.

 

The planning involves you finding things in free roam for the heist. Depending how you want to do it. And then you choose who does what and what their pay will be based off of. Like performce or straight up cut

[DocPip]

It'll be fun for the normal gamer.

 

For the brats, trolls, glitchers... Ya nothing ever satisfies them except their mommy

Nope.

 

Daddy satifies them...

[voldo27]

Geez, come on, can't you see the direction they're taking?? Twice they nerf up missions, nerfing missions now that took a while to complete and the payout was faire, like titan of a job. I'm thinking... yes, the heists will be a huge disappoinment, add the fact that high level missions will be nerfed too with the next update.

[riksterinto]

It's impossible not to live up to the expectations of people who come to this forum.

The forum will be filled with threads of praise for the heists.

[theadmiral]

Geez, come on, can't you see the direction they're taking?? Twice they nerf up missions, nerfing missions now that took a while to complete and the payout was faire, like titan of a job. I'm thinking... yes, the heists will be a huge disappoinment, add the fact that high level missions will be nerfed too with the next update.

Agreed. The idea that these missions are going to be easy money for normal players is laughable. Every single step Rockstar has taken so far has been to limit the amount honest players earn while ignoring glitchers and exploiters ( I personally couldn't care less but it is a fact) so that they can promote selling their cash cards.

 

Think about all the recent patch changes and what do they ALL have in common? Lowering payments for methods honest players use to earn money, increasing equipment costs, etc. Meanwhile the people with 300 million in the bank are sleeping naked in a massive pile of money with many beautiful women drinking champagne and laughing it up.

[Biohazard Abyss]

The payouts are probably going to suck.

[hugh750]

The payouts are probably going to suck.

or they could be pretty big??

[theadmiral]

 

The payouts are probably going to suck.

or they could be pretty big??

 

Everything rockstar has done so far indicates otherwise, but you may be right.

[jared72404]

 

I find your lack of fath, disturbing.

 

After everything that has happened in the last two weeks, I'd consider the faithful ones to be even more disturbing.

 

Yes because two weeks is such a long time.

 

I'm glad there are some good replies here.

 

I'm still missing how any heist will be any different from Titan of a job or any other mission, even if you lump 20 steps together it is still 20 repetitive tasks that are nothing new at all.

 

I'm still missing how the higher payouts are relevant considering 75 percent of the game already has millions and millions and nothing to spend it on

 

I'm still missing how any new content can possibly be any different from go to point A, get this vehicle, go to point b, kill some guys, pick this up, go to point C.

 

 

Some may say to give Rockstar a chance but I just fail to see what they can possibly add that is not just more of the absolute same old same old that has already bored players out of their mind in GTAO so far.

 

What are you going to spend these millions on? Once you have an apartment and a fast car there is nothing left to buy.

 

What are these innovative new weapons going to be? Everything is already covered pretty much. Are we going to add lasers or something?

 

I'd hate to be a pessimist but I fail to see how these will improve the game in any way shape or form and I definitely fail to see how they will be worth paying RL money for if rockstar goes down that route.

 

I am definitely judging the product before I see it, but I think that once they come out, people reading this post in hindsight will see that this judgement , however pessimistic it may be, is 100 percent accurate.

 

The same people defending Rockstar on this are the same people who said glitching wouldn't mess the game up, the stock market would be awesome and we'd all be getting rich investing in AmmuNation stock, etc etc etc.

 

Every single thing about this game thus far has been an absolute 100 percent let down. That doesn't mean it's not playable or somewhat entertaining, I just don't see it getting any better, only worse.

 

We are basically talking about World of Warcraft adding a new raid here.

Your assuming more people glitched than actually did is one thing your not accurate on. I race constantly and most people that I play against are level 20-30 and don't have custom cars, or maybe just 1 custom car.

 

For the rest of your essay, it seems like you just don't enjoy this game and should probably move on. You can go back and read some post of mine, im clearly against glitching / cheating in any form. I support rockstar still because this game has only been out for 2 weeks, and I am enjoying the hell out of what they released (the first couple days sucked because of server issues, but who honestly didn't expect that?).

 

I imagine (yes this is my opinion) that they will continue to release more and more content including: mission, heist, cars, apts / houses, clothing, possibly even sports and of course the content creator (which my be very simple at first). While a lot of the missions may be more of the same ole same ole type stuff, they will be enough to keep a lot of the casual fan base happy. Rockstar is a business and they are in the business of making as much money as they possibly can. I don't see how their accountants would recommend they start to ignore their product and what the majority of customers want (not just the few loud ones on the forums) because there is simply too much more money to be made, and that money comes mostly for casual gamers, not the hardcore guys that post on forums complaining they already have everything.

 

This turned into a rant, and it wasn't all directly aimed at you Admiral, just your post is where I drew inspiration. I agree adding content will be similar to WoW adding a raid, nothing ground breaking, but potentially new content that people will enjoy for some period of time.

[Zenom]

GTA Online was a massive letdown.

[theadmiral]

 

 

I find your lack of fath, disturbing.

 

After everything that has happened in the last two weeks, I'd consider the faithful ones to be even more disturbing.

 

Yes because two weeks is such a long time.

 

I'm glad there are some good replies here.

 

I'm still missing how any heist will be any different from Titan of a job or any other mission, even if you lump 20 steps together it is still 20 repetitive tasks that are nothing new at all.

 

I'm still missing how the higher payouts are relevant considering 75 percent of the game already has millions and millions and nothing to spend it on

 

I'm still missing how any new content can possibly be any different from go to point A, get this vehicle, go to point b, kill some guys, pick this up, go to point C.

 

 

Some may say to give Rockstar a chance but I just fail to see what they can possibly add that is not just more of the absolute same old same old that has already bored players out of their mind in GTAO so far.

 

What are you going to spend these millions on? Once you have an apartment and a fast car there is nothing left to buy.

 

What are these innovative new weapons going to be? Everything is already covered pretty much. Are we going to add lasers or something?

 

I'd hate to be a pessimist but I fail to see how these will improve the game in any way shape or form and I definitely fail to see how they will be worth paying RL money for if rockstar goes down that route.

 

I am definitely judging the product before I see it, but I think that once they come out, people reading this post in hindsight will see that this judgement , however pessimistic it may be, is 100 percent accurate.

 

The same people defending Rockstar on this are the same people who said glitching wouldn't mess the game up, the stock market would be awesome and we'd all be getting rich investing in AmmuNation stock, etc etc etc.

 

Every single thing about this game thus far has been an absolute 100 percent let down. That doesn't mean it's not playable or somewhat entertaining, I just don't see it getting any better, only worse.

 

We are basically talking about World of Warcraft adding a new raid here.

Your assuming more people glitched than actually did is one thing your not accurate on. I race constantly and most people that I play against are level 20-30 and don't have custom cars, or maybe just 1 custom car.

 

For the rest of your essay, it seems like you just don't enjoy this game and should probably move on. You can go back and read some post of mine, im clearly against glitching / cheating in any form. I support rockstar still because this game has only been out for 2 weeks, and I am enjoying the hell out of what they released (the first couple days sucked because of server issues, but who honestly didn't expect that?).

 

I imagine (yes this is my opinion) that they will continue to release more and more content including: mission, heist, cars, apts / houses, clothing, possibly even sports and of course the content creator (which my be very simple at first). While a lot of the missions may be more of the same ole same ole type stuff, they will be enough to keep a lot of the casual fan base happy. Rockstar is a business and they are in the business of making as much money as they possibly can. I don't see how their accountants would recommend they start to ignore their product and what the majority of customers want (not just the few loud ones on the forums) because there is simply too much more money to be made, and that money comes mostly for casual gamers, not the hardcore guys that post on forums complaining they already have everything.

 

This turned into a rant, and it wasn't all directly aimed at you Admiral, just your post is where I drew inspiration. I agree adding content will be similar to WoW adding a raid, nothing ground breaking, but potentially new content that people will enjoy for some period of time.

 

No offense but I stopped reading when you said if I don't like it I should move on. This forum isn't only for positive comments about GTAO, it is for any type of discussion on the game.

[jared72404]

 

Geez, come on, can't you see the direction they're taking?? Twice they nerf up missions, nerfing missions now that took a while to complete and the payout was faire, like titan of a job. I'm thinking... yes, the heists will be a huge disappoinment, add the fact that high level missions will be nerfed too with the next update.

Agreed. The idea that these missions are going to be easy money for normal players is laughable. Every single step Rockstar has taken so far has been to limit the amount honest players earn while ignoring glitchers and exploiters ( I personally couldn't care less but it is a fact) so that they can promote selling their cash cards.

 

Think about all the recent patch changes and what do they ALL have in common? Lowering payments for methods honest players use to earn money, increasing equipment costs, etc. Meanwhile the people with 300 million in the bank are sleeping naked in a massive pile of money with many beautiful women drinking champagne and laughing it up.

 

Its only been a couple weeks, they are getting missions payouts in line to where they feel they should be at, so that people progress at the rate that rockstar wants them too. I don't understand why people say they are ignoring the glitchers / cheaters at this point? I have to believe they are getting to payouts to an appropriate level so people cant gain insane amounts of money, and then they will deal with the cheaters to level out the economy. It doesn't take an economist to figure this stuff out, but I guarantee they have a couple on staff to deal with this issue.

 

Now people will say its a ploy to get people to buy cash cards, but its really to add longevity to the progression of your character, and if you feel the need to rush they experience they will allow you to do so, buy paying them. In turn, paying them will be enough reason for them to continue to making more DLC.

[lemurbeamur]

Well if we want to throw Blizzard into this debate. Each and every time they released new content (An X-pack for instance), and players exploited the new level cap to level up quicker. What did Blizzard do? They down-leveled them. They had to start over, the glitches got fixed. Did it happen instantly? In some cases yes, in others, no. This is no different. The glitches have been fixed and I'd be surprised if R* doesn't deliver a big middle finger and take back the un-earned millions players have exploited.

 

 

 

We are basically talking about World of Warcraft adding a new raid here

 

I played WoW from launch and quit in MoP, so this is actually a perfect comparison topic for me.

 

WoW set in stone its basic mechanics that evolved over time but never strayed too far from what they originally were. Raids were always the same: work together, play the mechanics, kill the boss, receive loot. The big changing points in each raid were simply the mechanics. The bare bones mechanics stayed the same, because that's how the game was made.

 

GTA's bare bones mechanics have always been the same through the series. Its name is a literal representation of its mechanics. Steal a car. Perform heists, kill people. That will and always will be the same in the GTA franchise. What will change is how we go about it. Each heist will be pulled off differently similar to how the "Go from point A to point B and kill someone" missions are pulled off differently but don't change too much because this is GTA.

 

Someone said to you previously something like "Would you like a mission where you're making a meal for the troops in Fort Zancudo" and you told said person to f*ck right off. I would have too but I still managed to see the train of thought there. The missions can't stray from the GTA scene completely or it wouldn't be GTA anymore.

 

GTA has made a definitive name for itself. It gives us the ability to do what no one has the balls or the resources to do in real life.

And pertaining to real life, what do millionaires spend their money on anyways besides a big house, fast car, a private jet and a luxurious yacht? 6 million dollars is more than I could ever spend in my lifetime, it's unrealistic to think R* could find something you could spend all of your 6 mil heist take on in the game.

[jared72404]

 

 

 

I find your lack of fath, disturbing.

 

After everything that has happened in the last two weeks, I'd consider the faithful ones to be even more disturbing.

 

Yes because two weeks is such a long time.

 

I'm glad there are some good replies here.

 

I'm still missing how any heist will be any different from Titan of a job or any other mission, even if you lump 20 steps together it is still 20 repetitive tasks that are nothing new at all.

 

I'm still missing how the higher payouts are relevant considering 75 percent of the game already has millions and millions and nothing to spend it on

 

I'm still missing how any new content can possibly be any different from go to point A, get this vehicle, go to point b, kill some guys, pick this up, go to point C.

 

 

Some may say to give Rockstar a chance but I just fail to see what they can possibly add that is not just more of the absolute same old same old that has already bored players out of their mind in GTAO so far.

 

What are you going to spend these millions on? Once you have an apartment and a fast car there is nothing left to buy.

 

What are these innovative new weapons going to be? Everything is already covered pretty much. Are we going to add lasers or something?

 

I'd hate to be a pessimist but I fail to see how these will improve the game in any way shape or form and I definitely fail to see how they will be worth paying RL money for if rockstar goes down that route.

 

I am definitely judging the product before I see it, but I think that once they come out, people reading this post in hindsight will see that this judgement , however pessimistic it may be, is 100 percent accurate.

 

The same people defending Rockstar on this are the same people who said glitching wouldn't mess the game up, the stock market would be awesome and we'd all be getting rich investing in AmmuNation stock, etc etc etc.

 

Every single thing about this game thus far has been an absolute 100 percent let down. That doesn't mean it's not playable or somewhat entertaining, I just don't see it getting any better, only worse.

 

We are basically talking about World of Warcraft adding a new raid here.

Your assuming more people glitched than actually did is one thing your not accurate on. I race constantly and most people that I play against are level 20-30 and don't have custom cars, or maybe just 1 custom car.

 

For the rest of your essay, it seems like you just don't enjoy this game and should probably move on. You can go back and read some post of mine, im clearly against glitching / cheating in any form. I support rockstar still because this game has only been out for 2 weeks, and I am enjoying the hell out of what they released (the first couple days sucked because of server issues, but who honestly didn't expect that?).

 

I imagine (yes this is my opinion) that they will continue to release more and more content including: mission, heist, cars, apts / houses, clothing, possibly even sports and of course the content creator (which my be very simple at first). While a lot of the missions may be more of the same ole same ole type stuff, they will be enough to keep a lot of the casual fan base happy. Rockstar is a business and they are in the business of making as much money as they possibly can. I don't see how their accountants would recommend they start to ignore their product and what the majority of customers want (not just the few loud ones on the forums) because there is simply too much more money to be made, and that money comes mostly for casual gamers, not the hardcore guys that post on forums complaining they already have everything.

 

This turned into a rant, and it wasn't all directly aimed at you Admiral, just your post is where I drew inspiration. I agree adding content will be similar to WoW adding a raid, nothing ground breaking, but potentially new content that people will enjoy for some period of time.

 

No offense but I stopped reading when you said if I don't like it I should move on. This forum isn't only for positive comments about GTAO, it is for any type of discussion on the game.

 

I said if you DONT ENJOY it you should move on, I should've left that part out I suppose, but I cant imagine staying around and playing a game you don't enjoy.

[Daos Draxon]

I'm sure that it has been said before, but i'll say it again. The biggest mistake R* has made with this game is releasing it in the state that they did. If there had not been all these bugs and glitches, as well as having done extensive playtesting to be sure about reward amounts then all of this would be moot.

Edited October 18, 2013 by Daos Draxon

[theadmiral]

I'm sure that it has been said before, but i'll say it again. The biggest mistake R* has made with this game is releasing it in the state that did. If there had not been all these bugs and glitches, as well as having done extensive playtesting to be sure about reward amounts then all of this would be moot.

Imagine how this game would be right now if the LS Customs glitch was ironed out before release. Totally different gameplay experience.

[SuperSpartan747]

I don't know if you've seen any of them, but there are at least a dozen Fleece banks located around the map that you will be able to heist. You will surely be able to heist them, as you can see through the front doors that they are all detailed on the inside.