Prediction: Heists will be a massive letdown.

[theadmiral]

I think most of us know this deep down inside but are trying to cling to some strand of hope. Is anyone with me on this?

 

How many heists do you actually think they will add? 3? 4? How bored will you be of the same ones after 3 days?

Edited October 18, 2013 by theadmiral

[Haha365]

I find your lack of fath, disturbing.

[Ginobili137]

they'll be crap. the only fun part about them in SP was the planning and there's no way we'll have that in online

[theadmiral]

they'll be crap. the only fun part about them in SP was the planning and there's no way we'll have that in online

Exactly. A heist is just another run in, shoot up mission and even if the payout is higher, everyone already has everything in game anyway. And good luck finding people to play it properly.

[ugotsmoked]

Preorder cancelled.

[njbrodeur87]

well there has to be some sort of planning online, since you need an apartment with a planning board. I could see it being alot of fun, if done right. I have hope these be great fun.

[PlasmicSnake]

I agree i think the heists will have tiny payouts and youll probably have to spend money on buying vehicles or heist related items that are not cheap. Like buying a million dollar plane or bribing the cops or someone or the mission giver will take the largest portion of the cut. Heists probably wont even be replayable or they will which will be why the payouts will be so low. Id be surprised if a heist payout gave us a 6 figure payout that resulted in it being all profit.

[protopip3]

there may be some good heist missions, though. but I'm sure people will find a way to spam them over and over ranking up and getting as much money from them as possible in two days and say they're bored already. Bring the heists and bring the whiney b*tches!

[archiebunker]

Maybe you should move on, build a life for yourself.

[Odesza]

There's a lot they can add on with this game and a lot of updates they can release.

 

You guys really gotta stop with the whole abandon all hope routine, it's the first month, they've had a lot of problems and issues they probably didn't expect (at least to this extent) I'm sure once things get stable we'll see a lot more updates/newer content.

[theadmiral]

There's a lot they can add on with this game and a lot of updates they can release.

 

You guys really gotta stop with the whole abandon all hope routine, it's the first month, they've had a lot of problems and issues they probably didn't expect (at least to this extent) I'm sure once things get stable we'll see a lot more updates/newer content.

I agree with this but for how long can it be entertaining to do repetitive missions over and over again to get a car that goes 10 mph faster or an apartment that has more square footage you can do absolutely nothing with?

 

Where do you see them adding anything unique that isn't already in game (doing a go here, shoot up this, steal this, lose cops, return it here mission , to make money to buy a car or apartment?)

 

What is the future of this game that is not already in it besides more of the exact same?

[KiNqChEcKeR69]

ye itz gunna suck

[freequebec86]

I guess 5 heist maximum. And will not be in "free-roam" server. It will be like mission, on separate server so no intervention of other people.

[theadmiral]

I guess 5 heist maximum. And will not be in "free-roam" server. It will be like mission, on separate server so no intervention of other people.

Sounds exactly like Titan of a job or any other mission currently in game though, doesn't it?

[Odesza]

 

There's a lot they can add on with this game and a lot of updates they can release.

 

You guys really gotta stop with the whole abandon all hope routine, it's the first month, they've had a lot of problems and issues they probably didn't expect (at least to this extent) I'm sure once things get stable we'll see a lot more updates/newer content.

I agree with this but for how long can it be entertaining to do repetitive missions over and over again to get a car that goes 10 mph faster or an apartment that has more square footage you can do absolutely nothing with?

 

Where do you see them adding anything unique that isn't already in game (doing a go here, shoot up this, steal this, lose cops, return it here mission , to make money to buy a car or apartment?)

 

What is the future of this game that is not already in it besides more of the exact same?

 

They can add a lot of new mechanics to apartments for starters same with missions, if anything I'd consider this first month if not the first few months of Online as just a starting base/beta for the actual GTAO longrun.

 

Just keep in mind they engineered online to be able to support multiple add-ons and updates, they could really go places and add on a lot of new things they aren't really restricted to using the same format for every mission, and apartment interior/activities, etc. Chances are they released online now to get a head start on it and to satisfy people (which it has for most) and to work from there.

 

In all honesty though even if they end up blowing their chances with online it isn't a huge deal we still all got our 60$ worth with SP alone.

[theadmiral]

 

 

There's a lot they can add on with this game and a lot of updates they can release.

 

You guys really gotta stop with the whole abandon all hope routine, it's the first month, they've had a lot of problems and issues they probably didn't expect (at least to this extent) I'm sure once things get stable we'll see a lot more updates/newer content.

I agree with this but for how long can it be entertaining to do repetitive missions over and over again to get a car that goes 10 mph faster or an apartment that has more square footage you can do absolutely nothing with?

 

Where do you see them adding anything unique that isn't already in game (doing a go here, shoot up this, steal this, lose cops, return it here mission , to make money to buy a car or apartment?)

 

What is the future of this game that is not already in it besides more of the exact same?

 

They can add a lot of new mechanics to apartments for starters same with missions, if anything I'd consider this first month if not the first few months of Online as just a starting base/beta for the actual GTAO longrun.

 

Just keep in mind they engineered online to be able to support multiple add-ons and updates, they could really go places and add on a lot of new things they aren't really restricted to using the same format for every mission, and apartment interior/activities, etc. Chances are they released online now to get a head start on it and to satisfy people (which it has for most) and to work from there.

 

In all honesty though even if they end up blowing their chances with online it isn't a huge deal we still all got our 60$ worth with SP alone.

 

 

 

Alright, so we can customize the interior of our apartment that does nothing and make it look a little bit different (not sarcasm). We can buy some new clothes to look a little different. We can add some new cars and weapons.

 

But i'm still not seeing how a heist is any different than anything currently in the game or how it will possibly be more fun or groundbreaking beyond the first time you do it.

 

Every single mission is the exact same formula in this game and I don't see how they can intelligently deviate from this formula.. There just is not anything there to add besides more variations of the exact same thing.

 

I do agree with you that the single player alone is worth 60$ though. I don't feel taken.

[zainzombie]

Yea.. I also believe they will get old soon with not much profits.

 

I dont mind 5-7 heists but there should be two options to go like SP. Otherwise what was the point of planning rooms?

[theadmiral]

Yea.. I also believe they will get old soon with not much profits.

 

I dont mind 5-7 heists but there should be two options to go like SP. Otherwise what was the point of planning rooms?

Its not only the "not much profit" , it's also that 75 percent of the player base has cheated to have more money than they ever will need. Will these repetitive missions be fun for players that have nothing left to purchase because they have 300 mil in the bank? (I've not done this but nearly everyone has)

[ugotsmoked]

Use your disc as a frisbee and STFU

[theadmiral]

Use your disc as a frisbee and STFU

If you don't want to have an intelligent conversation, go throw your toys out the pram somewhere else and leave the adults to the topic at hand.

[Odesza]

 

 

 

There's a lot they can add on with this game and a lot of updates they can release.

 

You guys really gotta stop with the whole abandon all hope routine, it's the first month, they've had a lot of problems and issues they probably didn't expect (at least to this extent) I'm sure once things get stable we'll see a lot more updates/newer content.

I agree with this but for how long can it be entertaining to do repetitive missions over and over again to get a car that goes 10 mph faster or an apartment that has more square footage you can do absolutely nothing with?

 

Where do you see them adding anything unique that isn't already in game (doing a go here, shoot up this, steal this, lose cops, return it here mission , to make money to buy a car or apartment?)

 

What is the future of this game that is not already in it besides more of the exact same?

 

They can add a lot of new mechanics to apartments for starters same with missions, if anything I'd consider this first month if not the first few months of Online as just a starting base/beta for the actual GTAO longrun.

 

Just keep in mind they engineered online to be able to support multiple add-ons and updates, they could really go places and add on a lot of new things they aren't really restricted to using the same format for every mission, and apartment interior/activities, etc. Chances are they released online now to get a head start on it and to satisfy people (which it has for most) and to work from there.

 

In all honesty though even if they end up blowing their chances with online it isn't a huge deal we still all got our 60$ worth with SP alone.

 

 

 

Alright, so we can customize the interior of our apartment that does nothing and make it look a little bit different (not sarcasm). We can buy some new clothes to look a little different. We can add some new cars and weapons.

 

But i'm still not seeing how a heist is any different than anything currently in the game or how it will possibly be more fun or groundbreaking beyond the first time you do it.

 

Every single mission is the exact same formula in this game and I don't see how they can intelligently deviate from this formula.. There just is not anything there to add besides more variations of the exact same thing.

 

I do agree with you that the single player alone is worth 60$ though. I don't feel taken.

 

Imo every single mission is relitivaly the same because as I said before the current release of Online is pretty much just the base, if anything I think they added it for everyone to grind up, get some money, levels, weapons etc and then the bigger content releases will start to come, and more missions with actual different formats and goals, ones that probably require a lot more than just teamwork and a simple run here shoot this run back.

 

Also what I meant with the apartments is that they'll add more mechanics in general into apartments, not just being able to customize your interior, who actually knows where they will go with it, and with this game in general. I'm pretty content with waiting to see how things turn out in the long run.

[AJayG]

I hope they'll be pretty fun I have played legit I got the 233k apartment and have like 40k in my bank cant see the point in glitching/farming just ruins the fun imo.

[DropUrBritches]

if they release Heist like the missions then yea it will get old really fast. I do believe you still get to plan the heist pick who you want to to do what i.e. get away driver, someone with a high flying skill if a bird is needed and so on...and i believe the host of the heist gets to determine the percentage of the cut each player gets for example If its a 4 man heist, one person dies fairly early into the heist without help to achieve anything then the host gives that guy next to nothing

 

as far as payout and heist equipment ...why wouldnt it be just like the story mode ...if you need a heli then steal it, a truck- steal it....i dont think your going to have to buy a plane bc the heist requires one.

Edited October 18, 2013 by DropUrBritches

[theadmiral]

if they release Heist like the missions then yea it will get old really fast. I do believe you still get to plan the heist pick who you want to to do what i.e. get away driver, someone with a high flying skill if a bird is needed and so one...and i believe the host of the heist gets to determine the percentage of the cut each player gets for example If its a 4 man heist, one person dies fairly early into the heist without help to achieve anything then the host gives that guy next to nothing

 

as far as payout and heist equipment ...why wouldnt it be just like the story mode ...if you need a heli then still it, a truck- steal it....i dont think your going to have to buy a plane bc the heist requires one.

I'm still failing to see the difference between a heist and any other mission in the game, except perhaps a higher payout, which is not necessary because 75 percent of the player base has cheated for more money than they will ever need and Rockstar will not be doing any bans or anything.

 

Isn't a heist just colorful vocabulary for another Titan of a Job or the lester mission where you fly to the construction site roof and kill everyone?

 

You can pick a driver and pilot right now and plan your getaway without paying for a DLC and using a meaningless heist room by turning on your mic and designating a role to each player.

 

The only point of the "choices" in SP was because you do not control the AI yourself. With players its meaningless.

Edited October 18, 2013 by theadmiral

[CunoVonRembold]

Arent you a little too dramatic about GTA:O overall?

 

As far as i know, now its a crappy game, and the whole GTA:O hype its completely fading away. It has a lot of economical problem, internal issues, also glitchers, random-guy-killing-everybody, rammer racer, noob rusher ruining mission, its hard to play with friends, the connection is always unstable.

 

I mean. Look at that.

 

If you describe this game to someone new, its f*cking BS.

 

However i can tell you that is totally BETA test. (IMHO) The game is SUCH a HUUUGE project, and its out only since 1st of october.

 

We must give time to time, we must be patient.

 

Now, R* to our eyes might be a piece of sh*t transforming this game into a PAY-2-PLAY. But as unstable as it get now, the game can be considered NOTHING. Its just a Beta game trying to become something huge.

 

You, me, everybody here are all not satisfied about what we have NOW in our hands. NOW, its crap, but maybe in a month or 2 its gonna go better.

 

In the meantime, stop asking yourself if that is good or not, just...WAIT. And if you are really hating this intense situation of constant changes, just quit and go take a walk. When you will come back, maybe you will have in your hands the perfect "Online Multiplayer". Who knows.

 

(Sorry for bad English, lol.)

[Tupiz]

At least the payout has to be big. If it isn't over 1m, why there would be vehicles worth over 1,5 million?

[theadmiral]

Arent you a little too dramatic about GTA:O overall?

 

As far as i know, now its a crappy game, and the whole GTA:O hype its completely fading away. It has a lot of economical problem, internal issues, also glitchers, random-guy-killing-everybody, rammer racer, noob rusher ruining mission, its hard to play with friends, the connection is always unstable.

 

I mean. Look at that.

 

If you describe this game to someone new, its f*cking BS.

 

However i can tell you that is totally BETA test. (IMHO) The game is SUCH a HUUUGE project, and its out only since 1st of october.

 

We must give time to time, we must be patient.

 

Now, R* to our eyes might be a piece of sh*t transforming this game into a PAY-2-PLAY. But as unstable as it get now, the game can be considered NOTHING. Its just a Beta game trying to become something huge.

 

You, me, everybody here are all not satisfied about what we have NOW in our hands. NOW, its crap, but maybe in a month or 2 its gonna go better.

 

In the meantime, stop asking yourself if that is good or not, just...WAIT. And if you are really hating this intense situation of constant changes, just quit and go take a walk. When you will come back, maybe you will have in your hands the perfect "Online Multiplayer". Who knows.

 

(Sorry for bad English, lol.)

There is no need for the "If you don't like it, walk" response. I'm just trying to ascertain how a heist is any different from a regular mission.

[Calavera999]

 

There's a lot they can add on with this game and a lot of updates they can release.

 

You guys really gotta stop with the whole abandon all hope routine, it's the first month, they've had a lot of problems and issues they probably didn't expect (at least to this extent) I'm sure once things get stable we'll see a lot more updates/newer content.

I agree with this but for how long can it be entertaining to do repetitive missions over and over again to get a car that goes 10 mph faster or an apartment that has more square footage you can do absolutely nothing with?

 

Where do you see them adding anything unique that isn't already in game (doing a go here, shoot up this, steal this, lose cops, return it here mission , to make money to buy a car or apartment?)

 

What is the future of this game that is not already in it besides more of the exact same?

 

 

What would you like Honey? a mission where you have to cook a 3 course meal for the troops at Fort Zancudo? It's GTA, how are you not already familiar with the mission mechanics?

[727gta]

well there has to be some sort of planning online, since you need an apartment with a planning board. I could see it being alot of fun, if done right. I have hope these be great fun.

The planning won't be any more different to single players planning.

[SilencedScream]

After playing The Parking Garage, I'm wondering if "planning" will be like that.
Each person is responsible for a particular objective which, when combined, brings it all to fruition.

Not to mention that there was an article (which, f*ck me, I can't find it) that said that at least one heist had twenty pre-heist steps to it.

This guy references it as well, so I know I'm not crazy. I just can't find it.