carmelo3 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 So I decided to recruit Packie for the Paleto Score heist. On the way there he tells everyone about the bank job in Liberty City....he then goes through the names of the people he did it with, when he gets to Niko he says "he's probably dead now". Anyone else pick up on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch The Zero Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Lol I seriously doubt Niko is dead. That dude had mad red army skills. I doubt anyone could have taken him down. Octane, WhiteRex, Konata Inoue and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jptawok Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 probably Lamborghini1335 and KeV3n 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demotay Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Lester didn't say he's dead, he said he went silent, meaning he went on with his life Shayd80 and KeV3n 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterToothDecayer Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I didn't catch that but Lester makes a passing reference about him dissappearing too. He probably is dead, either by suicide or the many people he pissed off in LC. Or maybe he just went back to Europe or is still living in America but in hiding. We'll probably never find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIMSTER777 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Niko is too badass to be dead. he went quiet. adictoGTA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodDamnMaster Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 No, Packie's just a cynic. He left LC abruptly and seems to have cut off all ties from there, so he really wouldn't know. Lester said Niko "went quiet" because at the end of the game (in both endings) it's implied that Niko is done working for the mob and other gangsters and has no interest in returning to that lifestyle. Tlaneloli 1 Intel Core i9-9900k | Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750W | 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHzMSI GeForce RTX2070 | WD Blue 1TB HDD | Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512GBAntec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower | MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Yuri Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 He is still alive probably. Only it probably will never return in GTA anymore because the voice actor didnt want to do it anymore. I taught it was something about $ but not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShopToCustomer Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 inb4 ShopToCustomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) He is still alive probably. Only it probably will never return in GTA anymore because the voice actor didnt want to do it anymore. I taught it was something about $ but not sure I think it had to do with him being oblivious to how successful the game would be, and wanted a higher pay afterwards. Edited October 17, 2013 by oCrapaCreeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tupiz Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 As some already said, he just went quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Yup. Someone probably killed this guy. Or more likely Roman just pushed him over the edge. Edited October 18, 2013 by Fit Flachbau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatus Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Jimmy have him as a friend on Lifeinvader, so I don't think so. But it's likely he gave up on his crime life. But he could've just moved on with life or is dead. No one reallly knows what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakatoX Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) From dialogue it seems that Nikko killing Roman is cannon. Edited October 18, 2013 by HakatoX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWarzoneXL Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) From dialogue it seems that Nikko killing Roman is cannon. Edited October 18, 2013 by TheWarzoneXL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatus Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 From dialogue it seems that Nikko killing Roman is cannon. Whaaat??? I needz proof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenKS Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 From dialogue it seems that Nikko killing Roman is cannon. Not only is that not even how it goes down.. But Roman has a Lifeinvader page, as well as Roman's Taxi Cab service is still running according to Franklin's cousin who lives in Liberty City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Theft Savage Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Packie doesn't know. Lester, however, does. D T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholesterol Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Well, like I've said before Kate's death seems to be canon. From this dialogue. Strange. that R* would nullify one of the endings to IV. imo It's not like either ending had an effect on V's storyline at all. Why do that just for this random encounter? Edited October 18, 2013 by elburrosleftnut adictoGTA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellieR Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Niko is still alive. Lester even said Niko went silent (Niko moved on in his life) Edited October 18, 2013 by SmellieR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsrow Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 He is still alive probably. Only it probably will never return in GTA anymore because the voice actor didnt want to do it anymore. I taught it was something about $ but not sure I think it had to do with him being oblivious to how successful the game would be, and wanted a higher pay afterwards. I vaguely recall someone on this forum saying it was a general statement he made about voice actors not having good contracts, so they don't get residuals or percentages, but instead are stuck with the original fixed price contract payment. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/why-is-michael-hollick-voice-of-niko-bellic-unhapp-26408048/ Similarly, you may have seen recently that the woman who provided the voice of the highly popular iPhone Siri assistant, was not even aware that generic voice recordings she made for a computer voice company years earlier were sold and re-used for Siri. Again, not even a notice to her, let alone any compensation. http://mashable.com/2013/10/04/siri-voice-susan-bennett/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakatoX Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 From dialogue it seems that Nikko killing Roman is cannon. Not only is that not even how it goes down.. But Roman has a Lifeinvader page, as well as Roman's Taxi Cab service is still running according to Franklin's cousin who lives in Liberty City. I get that. But Packie would have at least said something about it being deserved (Nikko dying) Or at least I would think..... Irish aren't known for letting things go..... Just ask my wife.... I should look and see the last update to Roman's page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) He is still alive probably. Only it probably will never return in GTA anymore because the voice actor didnt want to do it anymore. I taught it was something about $ but not sure I think it had to do with him being oblivious to how successful the game would be, and wanted a higher pay afterwards. I vaguely recall someone on this forum saying it was a general statement he made about voice actors not having good contracts, so they don't get residuals or percentages, but instead are stuck with the original fixed price contract payment. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/why-is-michael-hollick-voice-of-niko-bellic-unhapp-26408048/ Similarly, you may have seen recently that the woman who provided the voice of the highly popular iPhone Siri assistant, was not even aware that generic voice recordings she made for a computer voice company years earlier were sold and re-used for Siri. Again, not even a notice to her, let alone any compensation. http://mashable.com/2013/10/04/siri-voice-susan-bennett/ There's a lot of complications about royalties depending whether or not actors unions have made deals with the industry to cover various kinds of work. Michael Hollick (Niko) described it the interview that got turned into kind of a hit piece. Fact is, an actor who appears in a TV commercial (such as Ned Luke's (Michael) semi-famous Cheerios commercial) get royalties every time it airs. Even if an actor does no work for a commercial but footage of him or her gets used in it, the actor gets paid (even if they're dead). But, if a TV commercial for a game is made out of what an actor did in the game, that actor gets nothing for the TV commercial. It's obviously not consistent. I think the effect of this controversy has been overstated. Rockstar doesn't bring back past characters very regularly anyway, so never seeing Niko again would not be unusual. It was only necessary for Niko to reappear in GTA IV's DLC/EFLC and then there was no need for new work from the actor because it's about seeing the same events from different angles. Niko's story reached its end it's left to the player to imagine what happened to him. Edited October 18, 2013 by Magic_Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarriix Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Pretty sure he is still wanted. There's a wanted poster of him. Maybe it was him that locked Roman away in the ocean hatch. Edited October 18, 2013 by jarriix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake616 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 We'll never know. What do we know about previous protagonists? Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Well, like I've said before Kate's death seems to be canon. From this dialogue. Strange. that R* would nullify one of the endings to IV. imo It's not like either ending had an effect on V's storyline at all. Why do that just for this random encounter? How? I'm pretty sure Packie being in V confirms the Deal ending is canon. Packie mentioned how he could never leave because someone needs to take care of Ma. If Kate is dead than he would have to stay in Liberty City to look after her. There's no point in saying: "Well it's possible she died sometime after IV." We don't know that though, you can't go using your assumptions as evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Well, like I've said before Kate's death seems to be canon. From this dialogue. Strange. that R* would nullify one of the endings to IV. imo It's not like either ending had an effect on V's storyline at all. Why do that just for this random encounter? How? I'm pretty sure Packie being in V confirms the Deal ending is canon. Packie mentioned how he could never leave because someone needs to take care of Ma. If Kate is dead than he would have to stay in Liberty City to look after her. There's no point in saying: "Well it's possible she died sometime after IV." We don't know that though, you can't go using your assumptions as evidence. And then people always bring up Roman's Cab Business still up and running. You know who also worked there? Malorie. Edited October 18, 2013 by cp1dell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Niko Bellic isn't dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nameless Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 No, Packie's just a cynic. He left LC abruptly and seems to have cut off all ties from there, so he really wouldn't know. Lester said Niko "went quiet" because at the end of the game (in both endings) it's implied that Niko is done working for the mob and other gangsters and has no interest in returning to that lifestyle. Yep, pretty much spot on with this post. I like to think he died though. I like to think the whole depressing tale of gta iv ended in just as depressing, misserable circumstances - maybe he cut his leg on a rusty nail, it got infected, turned to gangrene, he lost his leg, fell further into depression, got drunk on vodka, tried to light a gas cooker, fell asleep and gassed himself to death. 9i OTD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spamtackey Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I've heard about Roman's LifeInvader page but can never verify it's existence. Or is it just that he's listed on Niko's page? Unless we get some kind of proof that LiveInvader was started after the events of GTA IV that doesn't really prove anything and neither does the cab service remark. Why would Niko remove Roman from his page? Even dead there'd be no point in doing so. The cab service itself could have been bought out or taken over. Case in point: Disney did not change its name after Walt Disney died. I prefer the Deal ending, so I'd like to think Niko took over the cab business with Malorie, which is why he went silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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