Ash_735 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Man those mountains sure are fun though with at least four people all riding dune buggies against each other racing to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) @ gizz01 Gta online will be a LOT bigger than most of you think, its the new direction of the series, im not saying the story sp no longer matters, but online play is now where its happening and where the money is also. Sorry bro, but so far I'm not impressed and I'm not sold on it. I don't give a f**k about how many people are playing online and I sure don't give a f**k as to how much money Rockstar make from online extras. Online MP will never be the main attraction for me in GTA. SP has always been GTA's main strength, and it seems Rockstar have basically sold out in a way. What might be popular does not always mean is automatically great in every situation. A heavy focus for online MP is just not the way forward for GTA's future in my view, and it's even worse when it's at the expense of SP> Which is exactly what Rockstar have done. And to be honest it's really pissed me off in a way. I had a first play of online last night, and it just felt sh*t compared to SP. The streets just felt damn near empty like a ghost town. And this is what you find exciting ?? Edited October 14, 2013 by Official General saintsrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 If you are a company you can embrace new technology or get left behind. R is choosing the former. I don't think there was anything wrong with SP except for a few things here and there but for R to ignore the massive online market would just be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) If you are a company you can embrace new technology or get left behind. R is choosing the former. I don't think there was anything wrong with SP except for a few things here and there but for R to ignore the massive online market would just be stupid. Bro I did not say anything about Rockstar ignoring the online market, I could not realistically expect them to do that. But I have a major problem when Rockstar sacrifice many things in the SP only to put them in online MP, which is what they clearly appear to have done. Rockstar should have maximized the potential of SP first. In my view, there were quite a few things wrong the SP. I did enjoy the SP greatly, it was a lot of fun. But there were definitely some things about it that could have been done much better. A small thing yes, but there should have been more interiors for places like fast food joints and property management. The main flaw with SP was more on Franklin's side of things for me. Rockstar could have provided a much better set of replayable side missions for him, there just was not enough hood and gang stuff that would have really added to excitement and fun of SP. Edited October 14, 2013 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizz01 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 @ gizz01 Gta online will be a LOT bigger than most of you think, its the new direction of the series, im not saying the story sp no longer matters, but online play is now where its happening and where the money is also.[/size] Sorry bro, but so far I'm not impressed and I'm not sold on it. I don't give a f**k about how many people are playing online and I sure don't give a f**k as to how much money Rockstar make from online extras. Online MP will never be the main attraction for me in GTA. SP has always been GTA's main strength, and it seems Rockstar have basically sold out in a way. What might be popular does not always mean is automatically great in every situation. A heavy focus for online MP is just not the way forward for GTA's future in my view, and it's even worse when it's at the expense of SP> Which is exactly what Rockstar have done. And to be honest it's really pissed me off in a way. I had a first play of online last night, and it just felt sh*t compared to SP. The streets just felt damn near empty like a ghost town. And this is what you find exciting ?? And your fully entitled to that view. But this is the way high end business works im afraid... I thought the sp was great, up there with the best ive ever played, and I say that on the basis of the feeling the game/story left me with, its a memory I hold for a long time and in that regard I score it very highly.. You also feel the same otherwise you wouldn't be her wishing their was more of it.... If I read a great book im left wanting more, its the one sure sign of any good entertainment..... Would i change anything in the game? Sure I would, I got a list longer than a blue whales love pipe but im yet to play a game where I haven't, its what makes us human, the fact we are always looking to improve somthing, its natural to do this as a human being, that doesnt mean what is infront of you is a steaming pile sh*t... Ive been gaming for years and you know when a game was bad or it failed its ordinance because its just a mass of one post threads of players saying "expected so much more, absolute crock of sh*t, never buying a (insert dev here) title again bye........" and you never see them again, what we have here is totaly different. ...... As for online... Its not perfect, and I agree its still feeling a little bare in more ways than one, but this only the beginning of things to come.. If it was announced that a new game was in development on the lines of a big mafia game online a lot of people would be interested, well thats exactly what gta online is going to be, this is just the start of all that and your going to be lucky enough to play it while it continues to be developed over the years ... They haven't put in options to play full freeroam like prev gta multi because 99% of players would just that and "GTA ONLINE" would die, later on in the dev of gta online it probably will come back when everyone is hooked on gta online, the old freeroam mode will be quick laugh with friends for old times but gta online will be where its at... I dont think the main story has suffered for it at all apart from the stuff dropped from sp and only for mp, but that just proves my point on how much gta online is a important focal point for them, but I dont think the sp was skimped on... not at all..... The new player switching mechanic was huge, 3 main characters, all characters motion captured, pretty decent story telling and fun dynamic mission, and an awsome script.... not really the signs of something being done half hearted imo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizz01 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If you are a company you can embrace new technology or get left behind. R is choosing the former. I don't think there was anything wrong with SP except for a few things here and there but for R to ignore the massive online market would just be stupid. Bro I did not say anything about Rockstar ignoring the online market, I could not realistically expect them to do that. But I have a major problem when Rockstar sacrifice many things in the SP only to put them in online MP, which is what they clearly appear to have done. Rockstar should have maximized the potential of SP first. In my view, there were quite a few things wrong the SP. I did enjoy the SP greatly, it was a lot of fun. But there were definitely some things about it that could have been done much better. A small thing yes, but there should have been more interiors for places like fast food joints and property management. The main flaw with SP was more on Franklin's side of things for me. Rockstar could have provided a much better set of replayable side missions for him, there just was not enough hood and gang stuff that would have really added to excitement and fun of SP. No you WANT more interiors. ... I WANT more interiors, but its not possible to have streets and streets of of enterable shops and what not on current gen, name me one game where this is the case thats on ps2/xbox..... there isnt one........ this is as good as it gets atm, gta v is the best attempt of on open world to date, your about 2 years off whats possible.... I honestly think you guys notice that there is no wildlife in MP and think R* removed them just to piss you off, noooo its because of hardware limitations, what we want and whats possible are two completely different things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephene123 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) If you are a company you can embrace new technology or get left behind. R is choosing the former. I don't think there was anything wrong with SP except for a few things here and there but for R to ignore the massive online market would just be stupid. Bro I did not say anything about Rockstar ignoring the online market, I could not realistically expect them to do that. But I have a major problem when Rockstar sacrifice many things in the SP only to put them in online MP, which is what they clearly appear to have done. Rockstar should have maximized the potential of SP first. In my view, there were quite a few things wrong the SP. I did enjoy the SP greatly, it was a lot of fun. But there were definitely some things about it that could have been done much better. A small thing yes, but there should have been more interiors for places like fast food joints and property management. The main flaw with SP was more on Franklin's side of things for me. Rockstar could have provided a much better set of replayable side missions for him, there just was not enough hood and gang stuff that would have really added to excitement and fun of SP. No you WANT more interiors. ... I WANT more interiors, but its not possible to have streets and streets of of enterable shops and what not on current gen, name me one game where this is the case thats on ps2/xbox..... there isnt one........ this is as good as it gets atm, gta v is the best attempt of on open world to date, your about 2 years off whats possible.... I honestly think you guys notice that there is no wildlife in MP and think R* removed them just to piss you off, noooo its because of hardware limitations, what we want and whats possible are two completely different things Why are you acting as if anybody asked for that? You're acting as if we are in the middle between lots of interiors and a low amount and if Rockstar added anymore they'd be overflowing... but we aren't in the middle, we have a low amount. Especially after the interiors available during missions are taken away once again, and especially when it comes to entertaining and interesting interiors, I can't really think of any interesting interiors off the top of my head. Edited October 15, 2013 by josephene123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) @ gizz01 And your fully entitled to that view. But this is the way high end business works im afraid... If that's how Rockstar's high end of business works, then they have built up an army lot of very dissatisfied customers. Right now, at least from what I can see on here and from people I know personally, a lot of people are very pissed off that a great deal of effort has been put into the online MP at the expense of the SP. And the online MP is not exactly a flying success, in fact it has had a great deal of negative feedback. High-end business you call it ? Okay then Would i change anything in the game? Sure I would, I got a list longer than a blue whales love pipe but im yet to play a game where I haven't, its what makes us human, the fact we are always looking to improve somthing, its natural to do this as a human being, that doesnt mean what is infront of you is a steaming pile sh*t... I never once said that GTA V was rubbish or sh*t. In fact, I think it's a great game, it was brilliantly made and I had a lot of fun playing it. But it's definitely not one of my favorite in the series. It's better than GTA IV, but not by much, which for me is not a great achievement on the grander scheme of things. As for changing anything in the game, yeah of course I would, but that's not really the point here. I should not have had to be even thinking about changing many things in V, Rockstar should have learned a lot from their mistakes with IV. My disappointment comes from the fact that I find myself wanting to change quite a good number of things in the game. From what was advertised and previewed, I was expecting more from this game, and I did not get that, that was quite a let down regardless of how good I think the game is. That's the bottom line. If it was announced that a new game was in development on the lines of a big mafia game online a lot of people would be interested, well thats exactly what gta online is going to be, this is just the start of all that and your going to be lucky enough to play it while it continues to be developed over the years ... Plenty of online MMO Mafia games already long exist out there on the internet. They have never interested me at all, and neither does GTA V online that much for that matter. I said before, I just don't find online MP that exciting. I don't know why you're trying to sell me on the idea with a 'Mafia' theme. Makes no difference whatsoever to me, I just prefer SP over online MP in a major way. I dont think the main story has suffered for it at all apart from the stuff dropped from sp and only for mp, but that just proves my point on how much gta online is a important focal point for them, but I dont think the sp was skimped on... not at all..... Your very delusional if you really believe that the SP did not suffer and have anything sacrificed for the sake of the online MP. The online MP practically has a bucket load of features that many GTA fans wanted to see in the SP that were not in the SP. How you cannot see this beggars belief. You proved nothing - I already stated that Rockstar now seem to be directing a lot of effort and focus on the online MP aspect of GTA with V, and I find it very annoying and disappointing. The new player switching mechanic was huge, 3 main characters, all characters motion captured, pretty decent story telling and fun dynamic mission, and an awsome script.... not really the signs of something being done half hearted imo..... The only part I agree with. And I already stated before that despite all it's flaws and misgivings, I still class GTA V as a great game and still enjoyed playing it. Still does not change my other opinions on it though. Edited October 15, 2013 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Actually it IS possible to have a large map and interiors, but only on ONE of the consoles. Again, just pointing out, GTAV filled those Xbox 360 discs to their limits whilst the PS3 still had at least 7GB (in a sense, a whole extra DVD worth) before it even filled the first layer. The streaming method the game uses means the hardware is more than capable of doing it, they're entry and exit co-ords matched up to streaming models, the only thing stopping it really is space, the lack of it, if they wanted to push more buildings, the install WOULD have to be bigger and really, Rockstar have pushed enough as it is making it REQUIRED to install 7.8GB on the Xbox 360. BFR579 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) If you are a company you can embrace new technology or get left behind. R is choosing the former. I don't think there was anything wrong with SP except for a few things here and there but for R to ignore the massive online market would just be stupid. Bro I did not say anything about Rockstar ignoring the online market, I could not realistically expect them to do that. But I have a major problem when Rockstar sacrifice many things in the SP only to put them in online MP, which is what they clearly appear to have done. Rockstar should have maximized the potential of SP first. In my view, there were quite a few things wrong the SP. I did enjoy the SP greatly, it was a lot of fun. But there were definitely some things about it that could have been done much better. A small thing yes, but there should have been more interiors for places like fast food joints and property management. The main flaw with SP was more on Franklin's side of things for me. Rockstar could have provided a much better set of replayable side missions for him, there just was not enough hood and gang stuff that would have really added to excitement and fun of SP. No you WANT more interiors. ... I WANT more interiors, but its not possible to have streets and streets of of enterable shops and what not on current gen, name me one game where this is the case thats on ps2/xbox..... there isnt one........ this is as good as it gets atm, gta v is the best attempt of on open world to date, your about 2 years off whats possible.... I honestly think you guys notice that there is no wildlife in MP and think R* removed them just to piss you off, noooo its because of hardware limitations, what we want and whats possible are two completely different things @ gizz01 I just don't believe Rockstar were not capable of providing more interiors in GTA V. If they can make huge and vast stretches of mountains,wilderness and countryside in V, then they can make more interiors. YES I can name you TWO games where you enter many interiors on the PS2/Xbox. GTA: Vice City - You could enter almost every commercial store, restaurant, cafe, and business property you owned, the shopping mall, you could also enter the police station and hotel too. GTA: San Andreas was very similar, you could enter all the fast food joints like Cluckin' Bell and Burger Shot, all the clothes stores, you could also enter bars, clubs, police stations, businesses and residential properties, train stations, convenience stores, casinos, bookmakers, gym, tattoo parlour, barbershop, burgling houses, I could go on. You're dead wrong mate. Edited October 15, 2013 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kindled_ Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 it all feels like it serves no point a forest as decoration i wanted a forest you could get lost in with a cabin in it that felt remote from the rest of the game where you spent a duration of missions This. Not feeling that vibe, anymore. Smaher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GourangaMaster Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) The evidence is damning. *pics* Why are you shocked by this, Is it really that hard to comprehend that the trees have been removed to improve performance? Would you rather a somewhat respectable frame rate or it dropping down to freeze frame like single digits every time you fly a plane or jet over the map because R* left in some trees? The naivety and lack of common sense around here is mind boggling. Edited October 15, 2013 by GourangaMaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylight Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 For God's sake stop this ''console limitation'' sh*t because it's just an excuse to some extent. Sure this gen is still very limited but they didn't add more interiors simply because they had to fully detail every single one, which takes more money, time and hardwork than you can think, they could put a lot more interiors, trees and other stuff if they really wanted to, they could eventually find a way to do it. They put in all fancy graphics and shaders plus good animations, textures and a crazy draw distance but they couldn't add more interiors, trees\vegetation and other details, sure makes sense.... When you have a game in development you gotta make compromises and sacrifice things and so they sacrificed interiors to favorize something else just like they sacrificed SP for ONLINE which is a joke, you play as an empty character which doesn't even speak, you barely see anyone on the streets and there are no animals, plus there is no proper freeroam there. It's not just the lack of content in this game but the way the existing content it's executed, they locked away features for missions or MP only ( like train driving ), and there are things that were so simple to do to make it better but they didn't. They could for example copy and paste all the fast foods from GTA IV and that would already be plus one point. There were things in previous games that I enjoyed and they ain't here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raavi Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) nvm Edited October 15, 2013 by Raavi – overeducated wonk who fetishises compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylight Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 The evidence is damning. *pics* Why are you shocked by this, Is it really that hard to comprehend that the trees have been removed to improve performance? Would you rather a somewhat respectable frame rate or it dropping down to freeze frame like single digits every time you fly a plane or jet over the map because R* left in some trees? The naivety and lack of common sense around here is mind boggling. Are you kidding me??? That doesn't look like they removed just some trees, they removed most of them. They should've known that was going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If you are a company you can embrace new technology or get left behind. R is choosing the former. I don't think there was anything wrong with SP except for a few things here and there but for R to ignore the massive online market would just be stupid. Bro I did not say anything about Rockstar ignoring the online market, I could not realistically expect them to do that. But I have a major problem when Rockstar sacrifice many things in the SP only to put them in online MP, which is what they clearly appear to have done. Rockstar should have maximized the potential of SP first. In my view, there were quite a few things wrong the SP. I did enjoy the SP greatly, it was a lot of fun. But there were definitely some things about it that could have been done much better. A small thing yes, but there should have been more interiors for places like fast food joints and property management. The main flaw with SP was more on Franklin's side of things for me. Rockstar could have provided a much better set of replayable side missions for him, there just was not enough hood and gang stuff that would have really added to excitement and fun of SP. No you WANT more interiors. ... I WANT more interiors, but its not possible to have streets and streets of of enterable shops and what not on current gen, name me one game where this is the case thats on ps2/xbox..... there isnt one........ this is as good as it gets atm, gta v is the best attempt of on open world to date, your about 2 years off whats possible.... I honestly think you guys notice that there is no wildlife in MP and think R* removed them just to piss you off, noooo its because of hardware limitations, what we want and whats possible are two completely different things @ gizz01 I just don't believe Rockstar were not capable of providing more interiors in GTA V. If they can make huge and vast stretches of mountains,wilderness and countryside in V, then they can make more interiors. YES I can name you TWO games where you enter many interiors on the PS2/Xbox. GTA: Vice City - You could enter almost every commercial store, restaurant, cafe, and business property you owned, the shopping mall, you could also enter the police station and hotel too. GTA: San Andreas was very similar, you could enter all the fast food joints like Cluckin' Bell and Burger Shot, all the clothes stores, you could also enter bars, clubs, police stations, businesses and residential properties, train stations, convenience stores, casinos, bookmakers, gym, tattoo parlour, barbershop, burgling houses, I could go on. You're dead wrong mate. Vice City map was tiny, though. And very, very low detail. So, there's a trade off there. SA: All of the interiors were really, really dull, especially in house breaking missions. Sure, there were plenty of them, but they really suffered from a lack of detail except for a few mission specific ones. The interiors in IV were much more detailed and realistic. In V they're very detailed, but there's not much of them. But the thing to remember is it's GTA, not MTV Cribs. I can't steal a car in someone's house. I can't steal a house and drive it. It's really not as important as people are making out when 99% of the game takes place on the streets. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizz01 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Your very delusional if you really believe that the SP did not suffer and have anything sacrificed for the sake of the online MP. The online MP practically has a bucket load of features that many GTA fans wanted to see in the SP that were not in the SP. How you cannot see this beggars belief. You proved nothing ...... sigh....... .... exactly as you quoted me in your reply... I dont think the main story has suffered for it at all apart from the stuff dropped from sp and only for mp, but that just proves my point on how much gta online is a important focal point for them, but I dont think the sp was skimped on... not at all..... how you cannot read plain txt in baffles me m8..... High-end business you call it ? Okay then me?? not really ME, 256 mil is big business to anyone surely.... we are talking R* here and some of the biggest entertainment businesses on the planet... if you carnt see that then your the one with the problem..... as for all the other stuff you threw up there..... how mutch do you understand code? or ill make that slightly easier for you, do you understand file sizes????? a texture for say wall back in those days will be less than half the size of a GTA 5 texture, what im saying is, say the complete texture database for GTA SA was......... 4 gig just throwing a number out here, well GTA 5 would be waaaaay above that and that's just textures, everything has been improved one way or another and therefore larger in size.... please don't say you need other to tell you that R* left out a number of enterable buildings for a REASON, do you think that they walked into work one day and just said "Ahhhhhhhh f*ck it, leave building the enterable buildings lets go bowling and do nothing all day... everything you see in the game has been means tested time and time again trying to get the best content in the game on the current hardware available, why is this fact so hard for you to understand? I don't get it, they aint doing this to piss you off you know..... pretty much all the rest of your stuff was "I LIKE" "I WANT", and your 100% free to express what you would have liked, I would have liked a number of things, but slating R* because they have moved in a direction that you don't approve of is stupid and actually moronic considering you know jack sh*t about business or developing a game.... im not happy they cut things from SP to MP only as I said way up above but that's business, I don't start screaming at the TV when the latest model of my car gets launched and they changed the shape, interior and added a eco engine, that's business m8 take it or leave it..... really I just canot understand how you canot be impressed with what they have got to run on such old hardware.. I mean whats the xbox got in the way of RAM? 512mb lol .... my pocket pussy has more ram than that lol.... without being here all day I carnt say it ant better than this guy above... Actually it IS possible to have a large map and interiors, but only on ONE of the consoles. Again, just pointing out, GTAV filled those Xbox 360 discs to their limits whilst the PS3 still had at least 7GB (in a sense, a whole extra DVD worth) before it even filled the first layer. The streaming method the game uses means the hardware is more than capable of doing it, they're entry and exit co-ords matched up to streaming models, the only thing stopping it really is space, the lack of it, if they wanted to push more buildings, the install WOULD have to be bigger and really, Rockstar have pushed enough as it is making it REQUIRED to install 7.8GB on the Xbox 360. its very simple... as for the main story.... your fully entitled to have your views on it, but to say its been skimped on or took a back seat to mp, is well......... I don't think I need to say anymore.... ohhh and finaly... about all the people who hate the game or who are so disappointed........ its always the empty can that rattles loudest its fact..... there are waaaaaay more people over the moon with gta v than those have game breaking issues with it... end of story..... if it was any other way you would know about, it would be all over the media big time.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) @ Fuzzknuckles Vice City map was tiny, though. And very, very low detail. So, there's a trade off there. SA: All of the interiors were really, really dull, especially in house breaking missions. Sure, there were plenty of them, but they really suffered from a lack of detail except for a few mission specific ones. The interiors in IV were much more detailed and realistic. In V they're very detailed, but there's not much of them. That's not really the point. Gizz01 challenged me to name ONE open-world, sandbox game on the PS2 that contained many accessible interiors, and I did just that, in fact I named two, which so happen to be Vice City and San Andreas. I don't care about small maps and low amount of detail, those excuses do not detract from the fact that VC and SA had so many interiors to enter for their times, and that was a great thing to experience. It's so f**king obvious that VC and SA interiors do not have much detail compared to those in GTA IV and V because VC and SA are very old, last-gen games, duh. Comparing the technical abilities of games between 11 and 9 years old to games between 5 years and two months old, very clever of you But the thing to remember is it's GTA, not MTV Cribs. I can't steal a car in someone's house. I can't steal a house and drive it. It's really not as important as people are making out when 99% of the game takes place on the streets. This has got be one of the dumbest comments have I've seen on here today. First of all your comparisons of GTA to MTV cribs makes no sense at all. How the f**k is more interiors in the game gonna interfere with the staple GTA ability of stealing a car and driving it ? In an attempt to sound clever, you have actually made yourself sound incredibly stupid with these laughable examples. Most of the game takes place on the streets, but it does not have to always be that way. That has always been the beauty of GTA, the option to play out the game outside or in an interior. More interiors provide a greater dimension for the immersion and interaction with the in-game city world, something that seems lost on you clearly. If you want a GTA world with very little interiors that's fine, but don't try and show me the appeal of it, because I won't see it, I've stated my position on that. GTA V had a decent amount of interiors, but not enough for how big it is, and that to me is a bit of a disappointment. Edited October 15, 2013 by Official General The Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizz01 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 For God's sake stop this ''console limitation'' sh*t because it's just an excuse to some extent. Sure this gen is still very limited but they didn't add more interiors simply because they had to fully detail every single one, which takes more money, time and hardwork than you can think, they could put a lot more interiors, trees and other stuff if they really wanted to, they could eventually find a way to do it. They put in all fancy graphics and shaders plus good animations, textures and a crazy draw distance but they couldn't add more interiors, trees\vegetation and other details, sure makes sense.... When you have a game in development you gotta make compromises and sacrifice things and so they sacrificed interiors to favorize something else just like they sacrificed SP for ONLINE which is a joke, you play as an empty character which doesn't even speak, you barely see anyone on the streets and there are no animals, plus there is no proper freeroam there. It's not just the lack of content in this game but the way the existing content it's executed, they locked away features for missions or MP only ( like train driving ), and there are things that were so simple to do to make it better but they didn't. They could for example copy and paste all the fast foods from GTA IV and that would already be plus one point.There were things in previous games that I enjoyed and they ain't here Are you joking, "copy and paste" is that how easy creating a game is to you......... this is why we have so many people going nuts that they carnt drive a train.... incredible..... Then in another post you say that they "could have added more trees/interiors ect.... Next post went something along the lines of... "Are you kidding me?????? That doesn't look like they removed some of them, it looks like they removed most of them" Ok ..... so what is it? A: they should have added more trees but didn't Or B: they did but they taken them out? Considering we Know they have removed stuff from the game (witch is to be expected) we can safely say B is true.... now we need to ask the question why gibe themselves the added work of removing stuff?????? Ill leave that one with ya...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If you guys want more interiors to play in just shoot open a door to a store or safehouse or go in there with a wanted level. It's quite easy and it's especially fun with Michael as the cops come running up the stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylight Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 If you guys want more interiors to play in just shoot open a door to a store or safehouse or go in there with a wanted level. It's quite easy and it's especially fun with Michael as the cops come running up the stairs. You do realize we want more actual interiors right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizz01 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 @woggleman f*ck it lets just leave em to whine we are getting nowhere fast here, this is a wastemof bandwidth and time... If they wana believe rockstar f*cked them over then let em, im done with it... Fancy a drink? Im just about done here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafy Hollow Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Completely agree OP. Should of at least made a somewhat dense and large forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) @woggleman f*ck it lets just leave em to whine we are getting nowhere fast here, this is a wastemof bandwidth and time... If they wana believe rockstar f*cked them over then let em, im done with it... Fancy a drink? Im just about done here Is that your sublime way of asking out woggleman on a date ?? LOOL @ woggleman I think he likes you Edited October 16, 2013 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizz01 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 @woggleman f*ck it lets just leave em to whine we are getting nowhere fast here, this is a wastemof bandwidth and time... If they wana believe rockstar f*cked them over then let em, im done with it... Fancy a drink? Im just about done here Is that your sublime way of asking out woggleman on a date ?? LOOL @ woggleman I think he likes you Lol pretty much, thats what ive been reduced to, these forums have totally screwed my head over lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuIIet_Sponge Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I agree . The more I learn the map the more empty it becomes . I get pissed everytime I come to a locked door . I don't know why anyone would lock their doors. Its not like a random dude is just going to come inside because its unlocked.. Edited October 16, 2013 by BuIIet_Sponge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveApk25 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Better than Nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranThefTito Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 yes i more enjoy the red dead redemption outside of town land for it is habitat for big life animals it just sounds just real time of night just real concern for my life status for the land is dangerous land just not this barbie girl game grand theft auto 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suppa K Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 They did remove trees to a degree which was disappointing. Pareto Forest is the only place that really feels like a forest and it's right next to a town so it kind of kills the wilderness vibe. I was expecting the country to be a great place to do repeatable bounty missions and other kinds of side activities like making meth or selling drugs but we have absolutely none of that. Instead we get only a limited variety of the good activities. Also they really misled us with things like exclusive online activities, which the only one of is arm wresting. Why that couldn't have been in the main game either along with a bunch of other online only feature like inventory and the bank system, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thivakar Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The problem was RDR's countryside was more alive and detailed than LS's country side. So it LS's country side seemed inferior. I really wish they had made LS a bit bigger or added few more towns or one medium size city. The urban area is pretty awesome though. The Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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