Bad sport is the most stupid idea ever.

[Phyxsius-]

 

 

Bad sport is not a solution, it's a bandaid for a wound which gets bigger every day.

It`s a nice bandaid for me. It takes away assholes from the general population and matches them with other assholes.

 

Some MIGHT be lesser assholes. They will have to learn to play within the set of rules Rockstar laid out for them. or get matched with bigger assholes.

 

I win regardless - I get less chances of getting assholes on my servers and in my games.

So just because it's ok for you, everyone else should suffer? Just leave, your making an ass of yourself over a solution that would to affect you.

 

Well, yeah. I am interested in MY OWN well-being. Shocking, I know. And my well-being is not compatible with the "shoot on sight" and "harass" crowd, so I want them out of my lobbies.

 

I am no more or less entitled than you and your separate passive / pvp lobbies idea. Only that I am not completely opposed to the idea of PvP. I AM, however, against the idea of one individual stalking me and killing me 50 times.

Edited October 12, 2013 by Phyxsius-

[DirtyT]

AFAIK RDR had a respawn feature to spawn elsewhere and avoid spawn traps.

 

WTF has happened to the anti grief mechanics? The majority of griefing is now being done by R*.

[kABUSE]

 

 

 

Bad sport is not a f*cking solution to PvP. It's a punishment syetm in which you can't play with your freinds. What we need is a free roam mode with no bad sport system or passive mode.

 

 

The problem is forcing passive players and PvP player together. I have no f*cking idea why Rockstar did not learn a thing from RDR regarding this.

And how is this a problem, when the result is achieved anyway? Passives get to play with passives, while PvP oriented people get to play with PvP oriented players. Get your friends to be bad sports too and you have solved your problem.

 

For getting what you want, you surely spend a healthy amount of time complaining about what others want.

 

 

you are talking bullsh*t without taking all the facts into consideration.

 

 

bad sports worlds are empty and boring. its a totally different experience. hosting and joining games takes easily 10 times longer, not to mention that you are forced to wear that ugly, f*cked up cap all the time and have to watch your behvaviour because you WANT to get back to the normal world. you are totally retarded while wearing that cap and your online experience is spoiled.

 

right now noobs get raped in normal free roam and in the so called "pvp free roam" everybody is bored because there is nobody to shoot, because the worlds are empty and the few people left do not want to fight.

 

not to mention that the "pvp free roam" is not only for people who fight other people but also for cheaters and bug abusers. at least thats what rockstars says.

 

And why is this my problem? You get what you deserve, I guess.

 

The red text is really funny: so, they are willing to fight innocent players, but not players that shoot back? A nice insight into the mind of a griefer...

___________________

 

Also, your sentiments are irrelevant to me: you earned your Dunce hat - wear it with pride, now!

 

 

are you really that stupid? They dont fight because they dont want their dunce cap time to increase, not because they are scared of others. you are the one who is the pussy, just to clarify. people like you have ruined the multiplayer.

 

btw happily i now have a feeling for how many tards like you i can rape a day without getting the dunce cap.

[Phyxsius-]

 

are you really that stupid? They dont fight because they dont want their dunce cap time to increase, not because they are scared of others. you are the one who is the pussy, just to clarify. people like you have ruined the multiplayer.

 

btw happily i now have a feeling for how many tards like you i can rape a day without getting the dunce cap.

 

So the point of your so called PvP is to actually grief and harass players, not for the good old "fight for the good fight"?

 

Yep, you pretty much explained why such system is in the game to begin with.

______________________

 

Also, you are slightly misunderstanding my point of view: I never said I don`t or won`t shoot back. I`d prefer you won`t get in my lobby, but I will defend myself

[kABUSE]

 

 

are you really that stupid? They dont fight because they dont want their dunce cap time to increase, not because they are scared of others. you are the one who is the pussy, just to clarify. people like you have ruined the multiplayer.

 

btw happily i now have a feeling for how many tards like you i can rape a day without getting the dunce cap.

 

So the point of your so called PvP is to actually grief and harass players, not for the good old "fight for the good fight"?

 

Yep, you pretty much explained why such system is in the game to begin with.

______________________

 

Also, you are slightly misunderstanding my point of view: I never said I don`t or won`t shoot back. I`d prefer you won`t get in my lobby, but I will defend myself

 

In GTA clearly the people who want to fight anyone in any way they want are the normal people. The childs who are afraid of dying are the ones who should be put into a seperate world. The guys who had brought the word "griefing" into the GTA world should just die. seriously.

Edited October 12, 2013 by kABUSE

[DirtyT]

 

 

 

 

 

are you really that stupid? They dont fight because they dont want their dunce cap time to increase, not because they are scared of others. you are the one who is the pussy, just to clarify. people like you have ruined the multiplayer.

 

btw happily i now have a feeling for how many tards like you i can rape a day without getting the dunce cap.

 

So the point of your so called PvP is to actually grief and harass players, not for the good old "fight for the good fight"?

 

Yep, you pretty much explained why such system is in the game to begin with.

______________________

 

Also, you are slightly misunderstanding my point of view: I never said I don`t or won`t shoot back. I`d prefer you won`t get in my lobby, but I will defend myself

 

In GTA clearly the people who want to fight anyone in any way they want are the normal people. The childs who are afraid of dying are the ones who should be put into a seperate world. The guys who had brought the word "griefing" into the GTA world should just die. seriously.

People get upset too easily. I think the majority of users (I use the term users because you have to play the game to be a player) just enjoy the progression and customisation, instead of the actual game.

 

Holding hands and being cooperative is what crews are for, everyone else is a potential murderer & the best remedy for anything (including murder) is prevention.

 

Prevention. Shoot first, or escape.

This shouldn't even be an issue.

 

Cheats and exploits should be the only punishable actions.

[Phyxsius-]

In GTA clearly the people who want to fight anyone in any way they want are the normal people. The childs who are afraid of dying are the ones who should be put into a seperate world. The guys who had brought the word "griefing" into the GTA world should just die. seriously.

 

 

I have every right to enjoy my game just as you do.

 

You like to join lobbies and kill everybody, that is your problem. I like to join lobbies and "mess around". We are both entitled to play our game as we choose to.

 

You want to come to my side of the map and try to kill me for sh*t and giggles - that is your right. You can do it 2, 3, 4 times. A 5th time is harassment. You had your fight.. your four fights. Let the 5th be over and off your merry way you go. You don`t want to, the game will force you away from me in the future - works both ways: I get to avoid an asshole, while you get to avoid a "carebear".

 

Where is the problem again?

[DirtyT]

 

 

In GTA clearly the people who want to fight anyone in any way they want are the normal people. The childs who are afraid of dying are the ones who should be put into a seperate world. The guys who had brought the word "griefing" into the GTA world should just die. seriously.

 

 

 

I have every right to enjoy my game just as you do.

 

You like to join lobbies and kill everybody, that is your problem. I like to join lobbies and "mess around". We are both entitled to play our game as we choose to.

 

You want to come to my side of the map and try to kill me for sh*t and giggles - that is your right. You can do it 2, 3, 4 times. A 5th time is harassment. You had your fight.. your four fights. Let the 5th be over and off your merry way you go. You don`t want to, the game will force you away from me in the future - works both ways: I get to avoid an asshole, while you get to avoid a "carebear".

 

Where is the problem again?

Problem: FORCED segregation.

[ProGamerGov]

 

In GTA clearly the people who want to fight anyone in any way they want are the normal people. The childs who are afraid of dying are the ones who should be put into a seperate world. The guys who had brought the word "griefing" into the GTA world should just die. seriously.

 

I have every right to enjoy my game just as you do.

 

You like to join lobbies and kill everybody, that is your problem. I like to join lobbies and "mess around". We are both entitled to play our game as we choose to.

 

You want to come to my side of the map and try to kill me for sh*t and giggles - that is your right. You can do it 2, 3, 4 times. A 5th time is harassment. You had your fight.. your four fights. Let the 5th be over and off your merry way you go. You don`t want to, the game will force you away from me in the future - works both ways: I get to avoid an asshole, while you get to avoid a "carebear".

 

Where is the problem again?

 

You can kill someone as much as you like, as it should be with no punishment. Though something stupid is the bad sport for blowing up a players car when you already have to pay for it which is fine.

[ProGamerGov]

 

 

In GTA clearly the people who want to fight anyone in any way they want are the normal people. The childs who are afraid of dying are the ones who should be put into a seperate world. The guys who had brought the word "griefing" into the GTA world should just die. seriously.

 

I have every right to enjoy my game just as you do.

 

You like to join lobbies and kill everybody, that is your problem. I like to join lobbies and "mess around". We are both entitled to play our game as we choose to.

 

You want to come to my side of the map and try to kill me for sh*t and giggles - that is your right. You can do it 2, 3, 4 times. A 5th time is harassment. You had your fight.. your four fights. Let the 5th be over and off your merry way you go. You don`t want to, the game will force you away from me in the future - works both ways: I get to avoid an asshole, while you get to avoid a "carebear".

 

Where is the problem again?

Problem: FORCED segregation.

Rockstar had anti spawn killing spawn system and servers for players who like PvP and servers for people who like passive or coop gameplay and servers for player in between. Yet they learn nothing from RDR for GTA Online.

[Phyxsius-]

 

Problem: FORCED segregation.

 

Necessary in order for us both to have fun.

 

 

 

You can kill someone as much as you like, as it should be with no punishment. Though something stupid is the bad sport for blowing up a players car when you already have to pay for it which is fine.

 

I can agree that bad sport needs tweaking, but only towards separating "griefers" and legit players better.

 

Rockstar had anti spawn killing spawn system and servers for players who like PvP and servers for people who like passive or coop gameplay and servers for player in between. Yet they learn nothing from RDR for GTA Online.

 

They did learn. They learned than an asshole will try his best to join co-op and/or in between servers and try to grief players, either by abusing mechanics, or just being a dick in mission lobbies.

 

Probably the conclusion they arrived at is to separate them from the general population, rather than split the whole population because of a few rotten apples.

Edited October 12, 2013 by Phyxsius-

[DirtyT]

 

 

 

In GTA clearly the people who want to fight anyone in any way they want are the normal people. The childs who are afraid of dying are the ones who should be put into a seperate world. The guys who had brought the word "griefing" into the GTA world should just die. seriously.

 

I have every right to enjoy my game just as you do.

 

You like to join lobbies and kill everybody, that is your problem. I like to join lobbies and "mess around". We are both entitled to play our game as we choose to.

 

You want to come to my side of the map and try to kill me for sh*t and giggles - that is your right. You can do it 2, 3, 4 times. A 5th time is harassment. You had your fight.. your four fights. Let the 5th be over and off your merry way you go. You don`t want to, the game will force you away from me in the future - works both ways: I get to avoid an asshole, while you get to avoid a "carebear".

 

Where is the problem again?

Problem: FORCED segregation.Rockstar had anti spawn killing spawn system and servers for players who like PvP and servers for people who like passive or coop gameplay and servers for player in between. Yet they learn nothing from RDR for GTA Online.

Yes, I mentioned this previously in the thread.

 

That would be the solution to this f*ckfest, but I see the game becoming happy land before it's saved.

[DirtyT]

 

 

 

Problem: FORCED segregation.

 

Necessary in order for us both to have fun.

 

 

You can kill someone as much as you like, as it should be with no punishment. Though something stupid is the bad sport for blowing up a players car when you already have to pay for it which is fine.

 

I can agree that bad sport needs tweaking, but only towards separating "griefers" and legit players better.

Segregation is necessary, forced segregation is not.

 

Optional servers is the needed 'tweak'.

[WinterEdit]

griefers dont exist in free mode. ITS FREE MODE. FREE. MODE. DO WHAT YOU WANT. NO RULES. IF YOURE OUT ON THE ROAD WITH YOUR HIGH END CAR OR WHATEVER, YOU ARE FREE GAME. I laugh at all these people who get so butthurt about dying in freemode. if you die, get vengeance. if you can't, youre bad and deserve it.

 

Stop being such whiney carebears. If you want a carebear server, play solo with your friends or whatever. stay away from public. NOT THAT HARD.

Correction: "If you can't, you don't have the required weapons for such and are likely much lower level than the opponent."

[Phyxsius-]

 

Segregation is necessary, forced segregation is not.

 

Optional servers is the needed 'tweak'.

 

Nah. Not everyone likes to go to the police and say: "Officer, I dealt crack on the street". It usually takes the police going to his door and ask nicely to be allowed to install some handcuff bling on his lil` innocent hands.

 

I like forced segregation better.

[Brazilian Mermaid]

 

 

Problem: FORCED segregation.

 

Necessary in order for us both to have fun.

 

 

 

Great comment. I totally agree with you. I think it's funny how the butthurt badsports can't stop crying over that. I mean, they want to kill everyone on first sight and have no coop whatsoever? Fine, now you have the ''amazing'' assholes, I mean badsports lobby. There you can have fun getting killed on first sight, not being able to rob a store together because you can't trust anyone. Must be nice.

But noooo they want to stay with people who like coop (and enjoy killing each other at deathmatches) because they want to kill noobs who wouldn't know how to fire back.

I remember these two people who tried to be assholes with me because appareantly I was too close to their appt. They said they were going after me, I said nothing, and just wait for them. When they stepped outside I blew them off with a bomb. Then took my car. They went after me across half the map and then I left my vehicule on the road and got behind a tree. I killed one of them, and the other one exploded my car. LOL he later sent me a hate message because he was now a badsport. And I only payed 436 dollars to get my car back. And my car is a sports car.

[Lucius Aelius]

Some people troll and some don't, sometimes blowing up someone's car is trolling and sometimes it's not. The bad sport system makes no distinction and is therefore fatally flawed (this from someone who's blown up a fair number of personal vehicles and thus far avoided a dunce cap).

 

They could have done worse, and the least they could do to make it better is increase the limit of cars you can destroy before being made a dunce, but blowing up cars is a given in this game (and every GTA). Allowing some destruction while punishing over-zealous carnage is as fine a system as any in theory, but the implementation is definitely too strict in GTA Online.

 

Even if you like the bad sport system as it is, I think everyone should at least be open to the idea of some adjustments and refrain from simply attacking each other for their play styles.

[Phyxsius-]

Some people troll and some don't, sometimes blowing up someone's car is trolling and sometimes it's not. The bad sport system makes no distinction and is therefore fatally flawed (this from someone who's blown up a fair number of personal vehicles and thus far avoided a dunce cap).

 

They could have done worse, and the least they could do to make it better is increase the limit of cars you can destroy before being made a dunce, but blowing up cars is a given in this game (and every GTA). Allowing some destruction while punishing over-zealous carnage is as fine a system as any in theory, but the implementation is definitely too strict in GTA Online.

 

Even if you like the bad sport system as it is, I think everyone should at least be open to the idea of some adjustments and refrain from simply attacking each other for their play styles.

I already said I am open for adjustments, but I am NOT against the idea of bad sport. I actually like it. Does it need tweaking to differentiate better between legit mechanic and griefing? Yup. But it has to stay in.

[ElderTyrant]

 

 

 

Problem: FORCED segregation.

 

Necessary in order for us both to have fun.

 

 

You can kill someone as much as you like, as it should be with no punishment. Though something stupid is the bad sport for blowing up a players car when you already have to pay for it which is fine.

 

I can agree that bad sport needs tweaking, but only towards separating "griefers" and legit players better.

Segregation is necessary, forced segregation is not.

 

Optional servers is the needed 'tweak'.

 

 

That worked so well in RDR for co-op...until people figured out they could kill eachothers horses.

[ProGamerGov]

 

Some people troll and some don't, sometimes blowing up someone's car is trolling and sometimes it's not. The bad sport system makes no distinction and is therefore fatally flawed (this from someone who's blown up a fair number of personal vehicles and thus far avoided a dunce cap).

They could have done worse, and the least they could do to make it better is increase the limit of cars you can destroy before being made a dunce, but blowing up cars is a given in this game (and every GTA). Allowing some destruction while punishing over-zealous carnage is as fine a system as any in theory, but the implementation is definitely too strict in GTA Online.

Even if you like the bad sport system as it is, I think everyone should at least be open to the idea of some adjustments and refrain from simply attacking each other for their play styles.

 

I already said I am open for adjustments, but I am NOT against the idea of bad sport. I actually like it. Does it need tweaking to differentiate better between legit mechanic and griefing? Yup. But it has to stay in.Says only you. RDR had friendly (passive) servers, regular (like what we have now) servers, and hardcore (PvP friendly and no bad sport) servers. Why is that so f*cking hard to get into your messed up brain? If history has taught us anything, forced segregation is only good for slave owners and Nazis. Edited October 12, 2013 by ProGamerGov

[Kayli]

I like it I get money sometimes for being a good sport and I don't like killing other people anyways so the less people trying to kill me the better

[ProGamerGov]

I like it I get money sometimes for being a good sport and I don't like killing other people anyways so the less people trying to kill me the better

RDR had friendly (passive) servers, regular (like what we have now) servers, and hardcore (PvP friendly and no bad sport) servers. This would not affect you.

[Brazilian Mermaid]

 

 

Some people troll and some don't, sometimes blowing up someone's car is trolling and sometimes it's not. The bad sport system makes no distinction and is therefore fatally flawed (this from someone who's blown up a fair number of personal vehicles and thus far avoided a dunce cap).

They could have done worse, and the least they could do to make it better is increase the limit of cars you can destroy before being made a dunce, but blowing up cars is a given in this game (and every GTA). Allowing some destruction while punishing over-zealous carnage is as fine a system as any in theory, but the implementation is definitely too strict in GTA Online.

Even if you like the bad sport system as it is, I think everyone should at least be open to the idea of some adjustments and refrain from simply attacking each other for their play styles.

I already said I am open for adjustments, but I am NOT against the idea of bad sport. I actually like it. Does it need tweaking to differentiate better between legit mechanic and griefing? Yup. But it has to stay in.

Says only you. RDR had friendly (passive) servers, regular (like what we have now) servers, and hardcore (PvP friendly and no bad sport) servers. Why is that so f*cking hard to get into your messed up brain? If history has taught us anything, forced segregation is only good for slave owners and Nazis.

 

That's more like segregating good people from people with bad intention. Instead of comparing it to slave owners and nazis you could easily compare this to jail. The people in there are separated from us because they have bad intentions.

[Hazel Mae]

 

Some people troll and some don't, sometimes blowing up someone's car is trolling and sometimes it's not. The bad sport system makes no distinction and is therefore fatally flawed (this from someone who's blown up a fair number of personal vehicles and thus far avoided a dunce cap).

 

They could have done worse, and the least they could do to make it better is increase the limit of cars you can destroy before being made a dunce, but blowing up cars is a given in this game (and every GTA). Allowing some destruction while punishing over-zealous carnage is as fine a system as any in theory, but the implementation is definitely too strict in GTA Online.

 

Even if you like the bad sport system as it is, I think everyone should at least be open to the idea of some adjustments and refrain from simply attacking each other for their play styles.

I already said I am open for adjustments, but I am NOT against the idea of bad sport. I actually like it. Does it need tweaking to differentiate better between legit mechanic and griefing? Yup. But it has to stay in.

 

You're literally the most unintelligent person I've met on these forums. Bad sport is fundamentally BROKEN. Someone can spawncamp you over and over and over again, but I blow up my friend's car while we're playing around and I get bad sport? Your problem is you don't want to have to deal with players who are better than you, so you whine about how EVERY bad sport is an asshole. Grow up.

[ProGamerGov]

 

 

Some people troll and some don't, sometimes blowing up someone's car is trolling and sometimes it's not. The bad sport system makes no distinction and is therefore fatally flawed (this from someone who's blown up a fair number of personal vehicles and thus far avoided a dunce cap).

They could have done worse, and the least they could do to make it better is increase the limit of cars you can destroy before being made a dunce, but blowing up cars is a given in this game (and every GTA). Allowing some destruction while punishing over-zealous carnage is as fine a system as any in theory, but the implementation is definitely too strict in GTA Online.

Even if you like the bad sport system as it is, I think everyone should at least be open to the idea of some adjustments and refrain from simply attacking each other for their play styles.

 

I already said I am open for adjustments, but I am NOT against the idea of bad sport. I actually like it. Does it need tweaking to differentiate better between legit mechanic and griefing? Yup. But it has to stay in.

 

You're literally the most unintelligent person I've met on these forums. Bad sport is fundamentally BROKEN. Someone can spawncamp you over and over and over again, but I blow up my friend's car while we're playing around and I get bad sport? Your problem is you don't want to have to deal with players who are better than you, so you whine about how EVERY bad sport is an asshole. Grow up.

This is the solution: RDR had friendly (passive) servers, regular (like what we have now) servers, and hardcore (PvP friendly and no bad sport) servers.

 

Keep preaching this to Rockstar and they will do it.

Edited October 12, 2013 by ProGamerGov

[Omnicr0n]

FFA PvP - Free Aim only; no passive mode.

PvE - Bad Sport, Free Aim

PvE - Bad Sport, Auto Aim

 

We should simply choose our preference and get to change it anytime we log in. Bad sports could still get moved to PvP for 2 days if R* chooses.

[igotspie]

 

 

 

Some people troll and some don't, sometimes blowing up someone's car is trolling and sometimes it's not. The bad sport system makes no distinction and is therefore fatally flawed (this from someone who's blown up a fair number of personal vehicles and thus far avoided a dunce cap).

They could have done worse, and the least they could do to make it better is increase the limit of cars you can destroy before being made a dunce, but blowing up cars is a given in this game (and every GTA). Allowing some destruction while punishing over-zealous carnage is as fine a system as any in theory, but the implementation is definitely too strict in GTA Online.

Even if you like the bad sport system as it is, I think everyone should at least be open to the idea of some adjustments and refrain from simply attacking each other for their play styles.

I already said I am open for adjustments, but I am NOT against the idea of bad sport. I actually like it. Does it need tweaking to differentiate better between legit mechanic and griefing? Yup. But it has to stay in.

You're literally the most unintelligent person I've met on these forums. Bad sport is fundamentally BROKEN. Someone can spawncamp you over and over and over again, but I blow up my friend's car while we're playing around and I get bad sport? Your problem is you don't want to have to deal with players who are better than you, so you whine about how EVERY bad sport is an asshole. Grow up.

This is the solution: RDR had friendly (passive) servers, regular (like what we have now) servers, and hardcore (PvP friendly and no bad sport) servers.

 

Keep preaching this to Rockstar and they will do it.

 

I bet R* is a little more educated in the situation than you are. They learned from the system they had in RDR, they learned a lot. If you don't think their decision to go this route for servers had anything to do with the information derived from rdr's multiplayer, you are kind of foolish. Just because it doesn't make any sense to you personally doesn't mean there isn't a valid reason for them doing it.

[Zwenkwiel]

I never had any problems with it and I've blown up plenty of cars

I keep reading people saying they blew up a few cars and have gotten bad sports for it right away

either they're lying or I'm just extremely Lucky or something because I've blown up dozens of em for all sorts of reasons and I still get my 1000 $ good sport bonus regularly.

 

it is kind of stupid how easy cars blow up sometimes, like I try to shoot out the tires and hit the gastank and with a single extended clip of my ap pistol I blow it up :S

the spawn distance can be really annoying too, but I can usually deal with it

worst case scenario I climb something, go into passive and find a new game, but I've only done that once

 

but in my experience the bad sports system isn't that big of a problem and I think you actually have to put effort into getting it.

[Zwenkwiel]

 

Says only you. RDR had friendly (passive) servers, regular (like what we have now) servers, and hardcore (PvP friendly and no bad sport) servers. Why is that so f*cking hard to get into your messed up brain? If history has taught us anything, forced segregation is only good for slave owners and Nazis.

 

 

Godwin's law proven once again

f*ck off and die moron, R* are not nazi's for putting all the assholes in the special little asshole servers

is the system perfect, geuss not

but comparing them to nazi's and even coming up with sh*t like forced segregation only shows your own ignorance

it's just a game

[Phyxsius-]

 

Says only you. RDR had friendly (passive) servers, regular (like what we have now) servers, and hardcore (PvP friendly and no bad sport) servers. Why is that so f*cking hard to get into your messed up brain? If history has taught us anything, forced segregation is only good for slave owners and Nazis.

 

Splitting the players into 3, on top of the 2 we already have (assisted and free aim) because of a few rotten apples is not the answer. Pulling said apples away from said community and give their own servers is a better solution.