CJ killed Ryder Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Packie revealed it in GTA V: Derrick is dead no matter if you killed him or not. But it got me thinking... If you did not kill him in Blood Brothers, how would he have died between the events of GTA IV and GTA V? Considering that he was an addict (as I remember), I think overdose of alcohol and drugs. JohnDoe7125539271 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 1. Age - he was the oldest one of the Maureen's children 2. Alcohol overdose 3. Drug overdose 4. Fight with a hobo over a bench 5. Killed by Kim-Young Guk's people after Niko dispose of him. Coral_City and Zello 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gardener Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The obvious one would be an overdose. But I think it'd play out something like this: His drug addiction gets worse, and it doesn't help when his mother passes away (assuming Packie wouldn't have left her on her own). Derrick wastes all the money and needs more for his drugs. He is heavily addicted and in no state to raise any. Packie lends it to him once but refuses to give him anymore after that. Derrick even attempts to contact Niko but Niko ignores him as he's trying to leave the criminal life. With no other option, Derrick desperatily attempts to raise more money by robbing a store while completely wasted on alcohol, but is shot dead by police as soon as he exits the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagos MC Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The obvious one would be an overdose. But I think it'd play out something like this: His drug addiction gets worse, and it doesn't help when his mother passes away (assuming Packie wouldn't have left her on her own). Derrick wastes all the money and needs more for his drugs. He is heavily addicted and in no state to raise any. Packie lends it to him once but refuses to give him anymore after that. Derrick even attempts to contact Niko but Niko ignores him as he's trying to leave the criminal life. With no other option, Derrick desperatily attempts to raise more money by robbing a store while completely wasted on alcohol, but is shot dead by police as soon as he exits the store. Yeah, I second this. He didn't really follow Niko's advice to get off the drugs. He must of died from a drug overdose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 He got hit by Tommy Vercettrain. matajuegos01, Drunken Cowboy, theNGclan and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch The Zero Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 He got hit by Tommy Vercettrain. Lol good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 The obvious one would be an overdose. But I think it'd play out something like this: His drug addiction gets worse, and it doesn't help when his mother passes away (assuming Packie wouldn't have left her on her own). Derrick wastes all the money and needs more for his drugs. He is heavily addicted and in no state to raise any. Packie lends it to him once but refuses to give him anymore after that. Derrick even attempts to contact Niko but Niko ignores him as he's trying to leave the criminal life. With no other option, Derrick desperatily attempts to raise more money by robbing a store while completely wasted on alcohol, but is shot dead by police as soon as he exits the store. Yeah, I second this. He didn't really follow Niko's advice to get off the drugs. He must of died from a drug overdose. I third this as it sounds very plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grievous Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Hold on, they confirmed that the fate of Derrick is left independent from Niko's choice? So ... can we assume that the same 'could' be said to others? That Roman and Kate would have both died, regardless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & White Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 1. Age - he was the oldest one of the Maureen's children 2. Alcohol overdose 3. Drug overdose 4. Fight with a hobo over a bench 5. Killed by Kim-Young Guk's people after Niko dispose of him. I agree with Tycek on this one. It was more than likely Derek died from a drug overdose. With all of that money he had earned with Niko Bellic, all of the cash probably went to the drugs and he lived his remaining days as a hardcore drug addict. Either that or he was personally taken care off by Kim-Yung-Guk's men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAnian Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He probably got killed in a fight over a bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & White Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He probably got killed in a fight over a bench. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOW'S ANNIE? Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Why would Kim Yung Guk's men kill Derrick? He helped them. It was Gravelli who ordered Niko kill him. Jeansowaty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Use spoiler tags idiot. This is the GTA IV Forum not the GTA V Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & White Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Why would Kim Yung Guk's men kill Derrick? He helped them. It was Gravelli who ordered Niko kill him. That's what happens. Niko did indeed kill Kim Young Guk, but from the Korean Mob's perspective, Derek could of ordered the death of Kim Young Guk and by killing him would ultimately make Derek the biggest counterfeiter in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shenmue18 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Maybe the option to Kill Derrick is the cannon option, like how Roman still appears to be alive with him being on Niko's Lifeinvader page and having his cab company referenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOW'S ANNIE? Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Why would Kim Yung Guk's men kill Derrick? He helped them. It was Gravelli who ordered Niko kill him. That's what happens. Niko did indeed kill Kim Young Guk, but from the Korean Mob's perspective, Derek could of ordered the death of Kim Young Guk and by killing him would ultimately make Derek the biggest counterfeiter in the city. Ahh, I see your point there. However Kim was the only one there who knew Niko's association with Derrick, and he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Node Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The obvious one would be an overdose. But I think it'd play out something like this: His drug addiction gets worse, and it doesn't help when his mother passes away (assuming Packie wouldn't have left her on her own). Derrick wastes all the money and needs more for his drugs. He is heavily addicted and in no state to raise any. Packie lends it to him once but refuses to give him anymore after that. Derrick even attempts to contact Niko but Niko ignores him as he's trying to leave the criminal life. With no other option, Derrick desperatily attempts to raise more money by robbing a store while completely wasted on alcohol, but is shot dead by police as soon as he exits the store. Wait, If he didn't have any money how did he get the alcohol? Unless he nabbed one whilst robbing the store but even then he wouldn't be "wasted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gardener Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The obvious one would be an overdose. But I think it'd play out something like this: His drug addiction gets worse, and it doesn't help when his mother passes away (assuming Packie wouldn't have left her on her own). Derrick wastes all the money and needs more for his drugs. He is heavily addicted and in no state to raise any. Packie lends it to him once but refuses to give him anymore after that. Derrick even attempts to contact Niko but Niko ignores him as he's trying to leave the criminal life. With no other option, Derrick desperatily attempts to raise more money by robbing a store while completely wasted on alcohol, but is shot dead by police as soon as he exits the store. Wait, If he didn't have any money how did he get the alcohol? Unless he nabbed one whilst robbing the store but even then he wouldn't be "wasted". It's not that hard for a homeless ex criminal to get his hands on some drink. Drugs are a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & White Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Why would Kim Yung Guk's men kill Derrick? He helped them. It was Gravelli who ordered Niko kill him. That's what happens. Niko did indeed kill Kim Young Guk, but from the Korean Mob's perspective, Derek could of ordered the death of Kim Young Guk and by killing him would ultimately make Derek the biggest counterfeiter in the city. Ahh, I see your point there. However Kim was the only one there who knew Niko's association with Derrick, and he's dead. I mean.. the Korean Mob got rich from counterfeiting. The Korean Mob likely knew Derrick and Niko provided protection to Kim Young Guk. Like any other criminal in Liberty City, they all have one thing in common, they are all greedy. Derrick could of ordered his death and Niko being the hitman, killing other Korean Mob associates. See the connection between Derrick and Niko? That's good enough for anyone to pass judgement upon. That's all the evidence right there. I doubt very much that Kim Young Guk was working alone. He probably had bosses and partners, and Kim could of easily mentioned that Derrick and Niko helped him and secured the counterfeited money into Liberty City. Plus - The location where Kim and his associates were hiding, that Korean restaurant, was in a Korean neighborhood. There were a large amount of witnesses from innocents and Korean Mob associates. I remember going into that room and threatening a Korean person for information about Kim's escape route. That person could of passed on the word and the Korean Mob could of easily traced back his previous criminal affiliations. It's that easy. It is also likely that the Korean Mob were into corrupting Liberty City police officials and could of easy bribed an officer in return for important information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade Dynamite Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Maybe the option to Kill Derrick is the cannon option, like how Roman still appears to be alive with him being on Niko's Lifeinvader page and having his cab company referenced. That doesn't prove the Revenge ending is canon: For two reasons: 1. Roman's cab company could have easily been inherited by Niko or Mallorie. It's likely they would have kept the name in his honor. 2. A small easter egg shouldn't be considered canon. Even if Roman did have a page, it's possible that it was only set up by Niko or Mallorie to honor him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Robotnik Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I like to think that Derrick committed suicide, either by deliberately overdosing or otherwise, maybe leaving behind a note that says, "I'm sorry". It just sort of fits my interpretation of his personality. If Francis lived, I could see him doing something similar and shooting himself in the temple at his desk, after his corrupt ways begin to catch up to him and/or the suppressed guilt he carries becomes too much to bear. Jeansowaty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Everett Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I don't remember him ever saying this. Does Packie discuss this during a heist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ killed Ryder Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 I don't remember him ever saying this. Does Packie discuss this during a heist? He says that during the Paleto Score heist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & White Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I like to think that Derrick committed suicide, either by deliberately overdosing or otherwise, maybe leaving behind a note that says, "I'm sorry". It just sort of fits my interpretation of his personality. If Francis lived, I could see him doing something similar and shooting himself in the temple at his desk, after his corrupt ways begin to catch up to him and/or the suppressed guilt he carries becomes too much to bear. I can see the possibility of that. Derek never gave up. He always kept fighting, no matter the odds. I doubt he committed suicide. More of an accidental drug overdose. Once Derek and Niko helped Kim Young Guk into the city, Derek was rich. A large amount of his payment more than likely went to the drugs. Either way.. it makes more sense if Derek was killed by Niko rather than Francis. Francis would be a corrupt high official and I can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Benedict Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 i dont know he seemed abit like a rat piece of sh*t,i only let the guy live cause his brother was worse. LSPD crime records state that gerald was a snitch,he deserves what happend to him,what ever it was, and my money says the piece of sh*t OD'ed, because the way packie anounced sounded like he died, not that he was murdered. plus i think he left LC,because things were too hot overthere plus the pegorinos, the only tie to big money the Mcreary mob had, werent exactly in good shape after gta 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Common sense would tell you he died from drugs/drinking too much. Dumb question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus Ex Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Likely because of the drugs. That's what got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDoe7125539271 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Rest in Peace Derrick. I actually liked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Cowboy Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The answer of this canon/continuity error lies somewhere with the Phil Cassidy arm mystery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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