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Concerning Grove Street and the Ballas (San andreas Spoiler)


Uhwoahnohuh
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Ok My topic has gotten f*cked up real bad, Lets get back to Grove street and ignore the universe people

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Yea a lot can happen in 20 years. f*ck that different universes sh*t, I consider it cannon in my head. That universe sh*t was just a quick response so they can do away with old characters, if that question was never asked we'd never have a different universe theory thing or whatever.

 

With that being said, like I said a lot can go down in twenty years.

Even if Rockstar never mentioned separate universes, how do you explain the completely different terrain & layout of Los Santos & the state of San Andreas? Simple, they are different universes.

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Ok to end the universe bullsh*t, Grove street is clearly still there. Damn people come on

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GTA:V should've been set in the 1970's with Franklin as the only protag. Showing us how he built the families up from nothing and how the families and ballas came to hate each other. It would've been even better if Franklin or his 1970's equivalent was CJ and/or Sweet's dad.

aight homie

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daggerbomb trying too hard bro.. if you wanna make vatos believe then you gotta make it a little more subtle HAHAH LMFAO!

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One more thing for those who don't believe in the eras and think that the GTA series is one full continuity:

 

Here is San Andreas in GTA1:

 

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Not again.......SA fanboys with their Grove st bullsh*t, i can't argue anymore, you all too f*cking dumb.

 

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daggerbomb trying too hard bro.. if you wanna make vatos believe then you gotta make it a little more subtle HAHAH LMFAO!

wannabe og right here

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daggerbomb trying too hard bro.. if you wanna make vatos believe then you gotta make it a little more subtle HAHAH LMFAO!

wannabe og right here

 

This dude's real, dont judge unless you know him

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daggerbomb bro.. you say ni**a and homie too much and far too often... i know black gang members that dont even say it that much.. so either you some super young fool that think saying that makes you real... or you some wannabe that thinks saying that will make him real...

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I totally imagine Grove St. being Ballas territory, seeing as

Toni Cipriani killed CJ in the 90s

 

 

It's implied, at least.

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daggerbomb bro.. you say ni**a and homie too much and far too often... i know black gang members that dont even say it that much.. so either you some super young fool that think saying that makes you real... or you some wannabe that thinks saying that will make him real...

 

I totally imagine Grove St. being Ballas territory, seeing as

Toni Cipriani killed CJ in the 90s

 

 

It's implied, at least.

jesus help me

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hahaha.. he tryin to fit in... jus be honest with us all.. its ok you can still talk about a ghetto area and you can be white and you can live in denver.. we understand bro

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Daggerbomb get the f*ck out of my discussion. You are not contributing at all

fine ill stop homie sorry

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I totally imagine Grove St. being Ballas territory, seeing as

Toni Cipriani killed CJ in the 90s

 

 

It's implied, at least.

That might be what Rockstar wants us to believe happened,

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Ok to end the universe bullsh*t, Grove street is clearly still there. Damn people come on

People have every right to choose what to believe is canon & what isn't. Just as long as you acknowledge there is an official canon.

 

Rockstar keep such a tight reign on their intellectual properties & especially GTA. They don't outsource things like movies or smartphone games etc (although I think there was a Max Payne 3 comic book). So there is no expanded universe bullsh*t & there is no main protagonist of the series.

 

I like that Rockstar pretty much starts from scratch on each game, even for sequels in the same console generation. It prevents them from getting lazy & repetitive.

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universetwisters

 

 

I totally imagine Grove St. being Ballas territory, seeing as

Toni Cipriani killed CJ in the 90s

 

 

It's implied, at least.

jesus help me

 

Prove me wrong. Who else would Salvatore send Toni to kill?

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I totally imagine Grove St. being Ballas territory, seeing as

Toni Cipriani killed CJ in the 90s

 

 

It's implied, at least.

jesus help me

 

Prove me wrong. Who else would Salvatore send Toni to kill?

 

cj is immortal

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DoubleOGJohnson

The "era" bullsh*t doesn't work anymore, it worked in GTA 4 because Liberty City in GTE

 

 

Yea a lot can happen in 20 years. f*ck that different universes sh*t, I consider it cannon in my head. That universe sh*t was just a quick response so they can do away with old characters, if that question was never asked we'd never have a different universe theory thing or whatever.

With that being said, like I said a lot can go down in twenty years.

Even if Rockstar never mentioned separate universes, how do you explain the completely different terrain & layout of Los Santos & the state of San Andreas? Simple, they are different universes.

 

 

That era/universe sh*t is completely stupid, only complete fanboys treat it as gospel like its blasphemy to link two GTA games. Yall take that era sh*t TOO SERIOUSLY, some of yall are the same people who swore before GTA V info leaked that Families and Ballas wouldn't be in GTA V so why even listen to them? They're always wrong about sh*t. "Eras" are just a marketing catch phrase used for Rockstar to recreate old cities. That era/universe bullsh*t only worked in GTA 4 Because Liberty City in GTA 3 was drasticially different from LC in GTA 4 because GTA 3 was made before Rockstar started focusing on recreating real city renditions in detail.

 

Rockstar started rendering real cities in GTA VC. And GTA SA came out after Rockstar had begun to make detailed cities, therefore that same universe jumping bullsh*t that worked between GTA 3 and GTA 4 simply doesn't work with San Andreas-GTA V. GTA 5 Los Santos is nothing but a bigger version of GTA SA Los Santos with better graphics. You cant use that era sh*t no more.

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I totally imagine Grove St. being Ballas territory, seeing as

Toni Cipriani killed CJ in the 90s

 

 

It's implied, at least.

jesus help me

 

Prove me wrong. Who else would Salvatore send Toni to kill?

 

Ken?

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One more thing for those who don't believe in the eras and think that the GTA series is one full continuity:

 

Here is San Andreas in GTA1:

 

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If you knew anything about Grand Theft Auto, you would know the GTA1 San Andreas was considered a city and based on San Francisco (you can make out the Golden Gate Bridge bottom right on your map). Only in GTASA did it become a state and include LS, LV, and SF.

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TheWarzoneXL

 

One more thing for those who don't believe in the eras and think that the GTA series is one full continuity:

 

Here is San Andreas in GTA1:

 

IMAGE

If you knew anything about Grand Theft Auto, you would know the GTA1 San Andreas was considered a city and based on San Francisco. Only in GTASA did it become a state and include LS, LV, and SF.

 

 

I know that already.

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One more thing for those who don't believe in the eras and think that the GTA series is one full continuity:

 

Here is San Andreas in GTA1:

 

IMAGE

If you knew anything about Grand Theft Auto, you would know the GTA1 San Andreas was considered a city and based on San Francisco. Only in GTASA did it become a state and include LS, LV, and SF.

 

The obvious connection he is going for is that the three cities from GTA1 are the ones from 3, VC, SA, 4, 5.

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One more thing for those who don't believe in the eras and think that the GTA series is one full continuity:

 

Here is San Andreas in GTA1:

 

IMAGE

If you knew anything about Grand Theft Auto, you would know the GTA1 San Andreas was considered a city and based on San Francisco. Only in GTASA did it become a state and include LS, LV, and SF.

 

The obvious connection he is going for is that the three cities from GTA1 are the ones from 3, VC, SA, 4, 5.

 

Technically, no. Los Santos, San Fierro, and Las Venturas did not exist in GTA1, which is my point. So to use the map from GTA1 to differentiate eras is pointless. The only connection between GTA1 and GTASA/V is the name "San Andreas." To be as clear as possible actually, one can argue that San Andreas the city in GTA1 is an entirely separate city (albeit based off the same one San Fierro is). So to be extra technical about it, there has yet to be a 3D/HD game to feature GTA1's San Andreas.

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I totally imagine Grove St. being Ballas territory, seeing as

Toni Cipriani killed CJ in the 90s

 

 

It's implied, at least.

jesus help me

 

Prove me wrong. Who else would Salvatore send Toni to kill?

 

cj is immortal

 

Is that really the best argument you can come up with? Did you put no thought into that statement?

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I dont give a damn about "Universes" San andreas still happened, and It looks like They all moved away and the ballas took their chance

 

 

 

I dont give a damn about "Universes" San andreas still happened, and It looks like They all moved away and the ballas took their chance

 

 

 

I dont give a damn about "Universes" San andreas still happened, and It looks like They all moved away and the ballas took their chance

 

 

I dont give a damn about "Universes" San andreas still happened, and It looks like They all moved away and the ballas took their chance

Y0UJC.pngThis post summarizes why GTA: SA fanboyism is so lame.

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BlackJackTomato

There is a chance to CJ appears in GTA V, the Ballas are there, so... But everything that happened in GTASA universe didn't happen in GTA V universe. Period.

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There is a chance to CJ appears in GTA V, the Ballas are there, so... But everything that happened in GTASA universe didn't happen in GTA V universe. Period.

Explain Lazlow.

 

30 seconds.

 

Go.

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San Andreas and GTA V are on separate canons. The only things to carry over are city names, product brands, and some select radio personalities.

 

Having Grove St. in GTA V is simply a reference to San Andreas, just like the airport in GTA IV having the same name as the one in GTA III.

 

How many years do you niggas have to drive an Infernus, go to Burger Shot, and shop at Suburban before yall finally give up on this imaginary era bullsh*t? As if the world between each GTA has changed so much that it warrants “eras”. Come on man, give it up. It's purely imaginary. Go play GTA San Andreas and drive through or fly through Los Santos, then play GTA V and drive through Los Santos and tell me that you don't feel like you're in the same place just in different decades. Some of yall haven't played SA in awhile but jog your memory and pop GTA SA in. The two cities feel the f*cking same, Los Santos in GTA V literally fells like a bigger dirtier version of GTA San Andreas Los Santos with modern graphics.

 

The “universe” marketing ploy only worked for GTA 4 because Liberty City in GTA 3 and 4 are nothing alike. GTA 3 by design is loosely based on New York, GTA 4 by designed is strongly based on New York. And this has more to do with “WHEN” both games were created as opposed to any “era” bullsh*t. That universe sh*t simply does not work with San Andreas and GTA V. Los Santos in GTA V isn't different enough to separate itself from LS in GTA SA. Los Santos in GTA SA was designed as a realistically rendered Los Angeles just as GTA V is designed as a realistic Los Angeles. The two places are too similar to warrant some artificial "era". Eras cannot work for any GTAs except GTA 3 and GTA 4 because the original LC wasn't close to New York. LS and VC are all close to the real city.

 

Even if they remade Vice City the new city would look similar to GTA VC just with better graphics and different neighborhoods names. It's time to end this universe bullsh*t, will you still be driving Infernus and going to Burger Shot in GTA 20 as an old ass man and still be clinging to this era/universe bullsh*t?

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