Death Fees Are Too High

[rog1234]

 

Makes me wonder about something. Let's assume we have two characters. Character 1 has thousand dollars, Character 2 has nothing, the bank account is empty.

First you bank the thousand the first character has, then we take the cash with the second character. So Character 1 has nothing, Character 2 a thousand and the bank is empty again.

So, if I play Character 1 and die... will I lose cash? Would be illogical - it's on my second character. Hope someone understood that complicated explaination.

 

I just hope it will work - the current situation highly discourages me from taking risks and having really dangerous fun, and that was the thing I liked the most in GTAIV's online mode.

 

You think both characters bank accounts are linked? I thought you were going to say have one broke character for free roam killing and dying, and one more serious and hopefully wealthy.

 

No, it seems pretty obvious that the bank account is linked to all your characters, hell, I'm pretty sure Rockstar confirmed that in one of the pre-release updates.

[..GhosT]

Free aim is just impossible and not acceptable for PC players like me.

Some of you guys may be trained with it but i cant stand it at all. I cant control it either.

[aR2k]

Ever since i heard about the "cost of dying in missions and deathmatches", before i could enter the game myself,

I was absolutely sure that it was a bug.

 

BUT!!! It doesnt happen to me, i dont pay for dying in death matches, or missions.

[Munx]

Ever since i heard about the "cost of dying in missions and deathmatches", before i could enter the game myself,

I was absolutely sure that it was a bug.

 

BUT!!! It doesnt happen to me, i dont pay for dying in death matches, or missions.

 

Check your transactions, I thought I wasnt either, but transactions tell the truth.

[aR2k]

Free aim is just impossible and not acceptable for PC players like me.

Some of you guys may be trained with it but i cant stand it at all. I cant control it either.

Im a pc player, i SUCK with a stick, but OHHH MY LORD free aim servers are so much better.

 

More polite people, less instant dying from a drive by, less kids screaming over voice chat driving around shooting everything that moves.

 

Sure, i get owned in deathmatches, and i usually run from a firefight, but im slowly getting better, and i love it.

[snoopdoug]

 

No, it seems pretty obvious that the bank account is linked to all your characters, hell, I'm pretty sure Rockstar confirmed that in one of the pre-release updates.

 

 

I've only made one character, so it wasn't obvious to me. My bad. Besides being a possible workaround for not losing so much money, I don't see why you would want two characters with the same bank account. I guess maybe you could play as a couple or something.

[aR2k]

 

Ever since i heard about the "cost of dying in missions and deathmatches", before i could enter the game myself,

I was absolutely sure that it was a bug.

 

BUT!!! It doesnt happen to me, i dont pay for dying in death matches, or missions.

 

Check your transactions, I thought I wasnt either, but transactions tell the truth.

 

I have, transactions says nothing about medical bills from dying.

 

And FYI, i have no issues with the price of dying, im building up cash at a good rate, and I have never felt like something is slowing me down, even when playing deathmatch.

 

And i suck at console gaming, i had like 20 deaths in one deathmatch, i would have been broke

Edited October 3, 2013 by aR2k

[tommo120]

I really dislike the idea of losing money when you die. One of my favourite things about GTA IV's multiplayer free-roam was just messing around, killing each other and having massive cop chases and stuff. How are you supposed to mess about and have fun if you're going to lose loads of money? Me and my mate died god knows how many times messing around at the Military Base, wouldn't have done that if I had known I was losing all my cash!

[Munx]

 

 

Ever since i heard about the "cost of dying in missions and deathmatches", before i could enter the game myself,

I was absolutely sure that it was a bug.

 

BUT!!! It doesnt happen to me, i dont pay for dying in death matches, or missions.

 

Check your transactions, I thought I wasnt either, but transactions tell the truth.

 

I have, transactions says nothing about medical bills from dying.

 

And FYI, i have no issues with the price of dying, im building up cash at a good rate, and I have never felt like something is slowing me down, even when playing deathmatch.

 

And i suck at console gaming, i had like 20 deaths in one deathmatch, i would have been broke

 

 

Odd cause I and others are definatly being de-tracted for these, even got billed for dieing in race ..

 

Not that its slowing me down, since im not a big fan of dm's but there is definatly a issue with how it currently is. (for some people)

[GeorgeClinton]

Free aim is just impossible and not acceptable for PC players like me.

Some of you guys may be trained with it but i cant stand it at all. I cant control it either.

I'm a PC gamer too, but its really not that bad to get used to free aim. You just need to take some time to practice it. Sure you are going to suck at first, but the only way to get better is by sticking to it.

 

If you don't want to use free aim for whatever reason that's fine I really don't care, but there's no excuse for it. If you wanted to learn how to actually aim you would. If you don't have the patience to learn than you simply don't have the patience to learn.

 

On the topic at hand. I wish that you could go into a free mode where you didn't lose money so you could f*ck around with your buddies. Also losing money in game modes like TDM is pretty ridiculous and a huge error in judgment by R*. This being said I could totally see the 2k per death being fine, IF they also have world servers to mess around in. Sometimes I just wanna be with a buddy and see how long we can survive with 5 stars. Maybe in this mode any money or items you gain do not save to the other mode to even out the fact that you don't lose money on death. This mode would purely be an Open World Carnage mode or something.

Edited October 3, 2013 by GeorgeClinton

[aR2k]

I really dislike the idea of losing money when you die. One of my favourite things about GTA IV's multiplayer free-roam was just messing around, killing each other and having massive cop chases and stuff. How are you supposed to mess about and have fun if you're going to lose loads of money? Me and my mate died god knows how many times messing around at the Military Base, wouldn't have done that if I had known I was losing all my cash!

 

GTAIV was just a sandbox with nothing in it. This is a proper MMO, with an economy system and tons of players, a penalty for death has to be there, and this hasnt been an issue for me at all. There is so much to do here besides just driving around shooting at eachother for no good reason. Be smart, dont just run and gun at everything you see, you will get whacked, and its gonna cost ya.

[bmarshall15]

Point is this,nothing is ever good enough for everyone,deal with it or stop playing.

[twigs2001]

Auto Aim takes the fun out of this game, Free Aim should be mandatory and anyone who says otherwise well, rockstar should tell them to f*ck off and get their console banned, i say this because i was in a GTA Race earlier on motorbikes, and 2 seconds after the race started and weapons were enabled me and my partner instantly got killed because guess what! Someone behind us just held L2 and got free kills, completely f*cking stupid.

Edited October 3, 2013 by twigs2001

[aR2k]

Auto Aim takes the fun out of this game, Free Aim should be mandatory and anyone who says otherwise well, rockstar should tell them to f*ck off and get their console banned, i say this because i was in a GTA Race earlier on motorbikes, and 2 seconds after the race started and weapons were enabled me and my partner instantly got killed because guess what! Someone behind us just held L2 and got free kills, completely f*cking stupid.

If you didnt know, if you switch to free aim in single player, you will only be online with other free aim people.

 

I did that today, and its the best thing ever, the game just got 10000000 times better

[MK3Blackhound]

Death fees are WAY TOO HIGH. after i finally got into a room with a friend, i was attacked by another player and was killed 3 times. i wouldnt really care, but I HAD PASSIVE MODE ON and it cost me 6 grand afterward.

[aR2k]

Death fees are WAY TOO HIGH. after i finally got into a room with a friend, i was attacked by another player and was killed 3 times. i wouldnt really care, but I HAD PASSIVE MODE ON and it cost me 6 grand afterward.

 

Passive mode only works when your on foot, if you didnt know.

and btw, this wouldnt happen in a free aim server.

[twigs2001]

 

Auto Aim takes the fun out of this game, Free Aim should be mandatory and anyone who says otherwise well, rockstar should tell them to f*ck off and get their console banned, i say this because i was in a GTA Race earlier on motorbikes, and 2 seconds after the race started and weapons were enabled me and my partner instantly got killed because guess what! Someone behind us just held L2 and got free kills, completely f*cking stupid.

If you didnt know, if you switch to free aim in single player, you will only be online with other free aim people.

 

I did that today, and its the best thing ever, the game just got 10000000 times better

 

But that comes with a downfall, i can imagine the playerbase who use free aim is only a minority of that who use auto aim, its hard enough finding a full lobby as it is..

[aR2k]

 

 

Auto Aim takes the fun out of this game, Free Aim should be mandatory and anyone who says otherwise well, rockstar should tell them to f*ck off and get their console banned, i say this because i was in a GTA Race earlier on motorbikes, and 2 seconds after the race started and weapons were enabled me and my partner instantly got killed because guess what! Someone behind us just held L2 and got free kills, completely f*cking stupid.

If you didnt know, if you switch to free aim in single player, you will only be online with other free aim people.

 

I did that today, and its the best thing ever, the game just got 10000000 times better

 

But that comes with a downfall, i can imagine the playerbase who use free aim is only a minority of that who use auto aim, its hard enough finding a full lobby as it is..

 

 

TBH i have found allot more players in the free aim lobbys than i have in the auto aim ones, ive been in full servers all day. Lots of polite people, less people driving around just killing, lots of teamwork, no shouting 14 year olds. its .... heaven

[twigs2001]

 

 

 

Auto Aim takes the fun out of this game, Free Aim should be mandatory and anyone who says otherwise well, rockstar should tell them to f*ck off and get their console banned, i say this because i was in a GTA Race earlier on motorbikes, and 2 seconds after the race started and weapons were enabled me and my partner instantly got killed because guess what! Someone behind us just held L2 and got free kills, completely f*cking stupid.

If you didnt know, if you switch to free aim in single player, you will only be online with other free aim people.

 

I did that today, and its the best thing ever, the game just got 10000000 times better

 

But that comes with a downfall, i can imagine the playerbase who use free aim is only a minority of that who use auto aim, its hard enough finding a full lobby as it is..

 

 

TBH i have found allot more players in the free aim lobbys than i have in the auto aim ones, ive been in full servers all day. Lots of polite people, less people driving around just killing, lots of teamwork, no shouting 14 year olds. its .... heaven

 

I will try it tommorow, but if the servers are nowhere near as full as the auto aim ones ill have no choice but to switch back.

[paragouldgamer]

Ever since i heard about the "cost of dying in missions and deathmatches", before i could enter the game myself,

I was absolutely sure that it was a bug.

 

BUT!!! It doesnt happen to me, i dont pay for dying in death matches, or missions.

 

 

I have mostly done team deathmatch so don't know about single, but I've died 10+ times on some and haven't lost any money. However the 4vs4 missions is retarded that you can lose money to me. I understand losing it on missions where everyone is on the same side, but when you have teams going against each other, which are sometimes off balanced, it's just stupid to lose money. Die once and you lost your cut if you even win. If you lose, you get nothing but lose the money from deaths. I won't play them unless I just bought something and spent all my money. Sadly they are the most fun to me too. I tried to do the fighter jet deathmatch but couldn't find anyone playing it, maybe because it takes money on death as well?

[scrublord]

It should be a percentage with a cap.

[MK3Blackhound]

 

Death fees are WAY TOO HIGH. after i finally got into a room with a friend, i was attacked by another player and was killed 3 times. i wouldnt really care, but I HAD PASSIVE MODE ON and it cost me 6 grand afterward.

 

Passive mode only works when your on foot, if you didnt know.

and btw, this wouldnt happen in a free aim server.

 

they can still run you over. OT, Rockstar most likley wanted us to play with other people... but, this "penalty for death" really discourages us from doing that.

[skinku]

I've just had a f*cking idea.

No death fees if you are killed by another player.

They get that bad sport sh*t and end up in PvP zones.

You just lose a little money.

Death fees for stupidity and getting whacked by NPCs stay but maybe a little lower.

f*cking blinding.

Back to my pasty now.

[ITIATT]

i really dont like that it also spawns you very close to the person who killed you. only makes it worse.

[gta5freemode4eva]

I agree it is a lot.

 

My total earnings from jobs is about 200k (L19). Total death cost + health bill = 70k. That is a 1/3 of my money. Half of that is from annoying little sh*ts that drive around killing you for no reason...or I defend myself and end up being killed by the cops if I don't get away.

 

Passive mode mate but make sure your not standing where u can be easily ran over as they'll kill you like that too.

[blk95ta]

it makes you avoid death match modes all together. maybe once i buy a property but i've got over 124k in the bank saving for a property that's around 140k so i don't want to be losing money in DM. I'm also unsure whether or not i even want to buy a property for fear of losing it. i've already lost a character but got to keep his money, so i guess i'm a bit nervous.

[gta5freemode4eva]

To be honest passive mode isn't enough, I want a complete 'friendly' room where u cant kill each other (like rdr) or have the option to kick someone after they've killed you a certain amount of times for no reason (there is a kick option but its in the Online menu somewhere, quite hidden).

 

Having the cops after you, doing missions with retards and generally trying to level up can be a pain in arse on its own, let alone having retards killing u for no reason.

 

Also this 'bad sport' thing is crap... I keep getting warned that if I leave an event I'll be marked as a bad sport... but its the servers that keep making me quit, not me.

 

I didn't realise that we lose money for deaths whilst on missions... jesus christ... playing gtao at the moment is actually quite a chore

[N7 Colonel Dre]

I agree

 

The fees have turned me off of deathmatches and survival. You simply don't make back what you loose

[Coyteria]

I agree!

[Retardation]

Not a good idea in a game where your life is in the hands of jittery, gun-toting kids. GTA IV's multiplayer definitely did the 'fun' aspect a lot better.