Chiliad Mural and End Game Easter Eggs SOLUTION

[cjkuhlenbeck]

The sad part about this entire thread is Brian has presented more credible "evidence" then ANY previous theories involving the UFOs, but there's a lot of (justifiable) backlash due to his over inflated ego. The theory is well thought out and definitely has support behind it. Like I said, more so than any previous theories, which were honestly complete crap and like throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks (SPOILER: Nothing has stuck so far!)

I dunno man, the honk the space docker idea was pretty credible, I mean, its made by hippies from aliens and then ??? and then jetpack. perfect logic

 

 

 

 

 

I joke, but i drove that bitch across every inch of the map honking the horn lol

[spamtackey]

The sad part about this entire thread is Brian has presented more credible "evidence" then ANY previous theories involving the UFOs, but there's a lot of (justifiable) backlash due to his over inflated ego. The theory is well thought out and definitely has support behind it. Like I said, more so than any previous theories, which were honestly complete crap and like throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks (SPOILER: Nothing has stuck so far!)

There are too many holes with the theory though. "Play the entire game beyond 100% without killing anyone by accident, anyone who you can spare (who knows how many we can spare?) and make all the right choices." There are so many places where it can go wrong that using it as a method of unlocking the jetpack would be mad. Especially since it goes against the very nature of the series were are playing. It sounds just as unsound as any other theory to me. It's possible, but IMO very unlikely.

[ezfaun]

 

The sad part about this entire thread is Brian has presented more credible "evidence" then ANY previous theories involving the UFOs, but there's a lot of (justifiable) backlash due to his over inflated ego. The theory is well thought out and definitely has support behind it. Like I said, more so than any previous theories, which were honestly complete crap and like throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks (SPOILER: Nothing has stuck so far!)

I dunno man, the honk the space docker idea was pretty credible, I mean, its made by hippies from aliens and then ??? and then jetpack. perfect logic

 

 

 

 

 

I joke, but i drove that bitch across every inch of the map honking the horn lol

 

I drove that thing and honked it around in the zancudo air base just to piss the military off lol

[Fmlad]

I don't think anyone at all said it wasn't a good theory.. the fact that his ego was so big and him insulting us, calling us inferior and unable to grasp what he was saying just led him to being slaughtered by everyone.

..Now taking on board what he has said, on hindsight there are a few players the game does give you an option to spare though going out of your way not to kill some people will fail the mission. Maybe we can come up with a list of important choices we have experienced in a game and then experiment. If what 'The Crazy Guy' said is true then it will take a lot more organised co-ordination than all the previous theories.

[M_Redfield]

So in simple terms, without the god complex that Brian has, his theory is this:

 

There are eight main ways to complete the game - five of them end up with nothing, three have different rewards.

 

This theory might sound good at first, but it's just hogwash, because people who have completed the game in different ways have all seen the exact same thing.

[Sage Syx]

I'm not even apart of this thread and I really think it needs to be locked, also, this game isn't Shadow The Hedgehog, with like 20 different endings >_> technically speaking you'd need to alter a lot (what advice Michael takes from his therapist, killing people when you save Michaels kids, etc.) so yeah, probably not true.

Edited October 1, 2013 by Sage Syx

[brian.]

Okay.

 

Here begins your thesis defense:

 

Question one:

WHERE IS MY GODDAMN MOTHERf*ckING JETPACK?

 

I only proved that the way you play the game dictates your eligibility to truly complete it, I was personally never searching for a jetpack, I was not happy with the evidence that there is one aside from that pic

 

However, check this out:

 

 

The definition of jetpack? A real jetpack?

 

"a jet-powered backpack used by astronauts to move around in space away from a spacecraft."

 

And the moon gravity cheat is there, for consideration of fantasy's sake - motivation to see what really lies out there. What if it's a trip to space? They could do that procedurally in 64k and it would look every bit as good as the rest of the game and no one would ever find it. Plus, only an achetype file was found for veh_spacecraft - no one has found an asset for the spaceships in the sky afaik. This may have changed now, but I did not find any out of the normal vehicle that would rely on that file while investigating the handling data.

 

I can't promise a jetpack, or a trip to space - I can promise that there is the first real, rock solid evidence that I truly believe in. All of the sh*t I posted before was riddled with doubt, but I did not reveal that at ALL to the reader - I needed people to try it for me! I wanted people to come see it tried in case they could witness the first time and enjoy with us. His channel went from 200 or so best ever to 3500k and that is because of the excitement around this egg and the potential for it to be found - passionate members of GTANet and fans of GTA together at once, witnessing a mystery solved together.

 

I did share ONLY the very best sounding theories though - the ones that just felt right - but all along, we were all missing the bigger picture, and it was right there in front of us.

 

Imagine how many people are out there right now trying to figure this out and have not yet even seen this thread to at least "weigh the possibility"

 

But we all know, this, it's too perfect not to be true. Or Rockstar are some sick motherf*ckers. They already get bashed about replay value on GTA IV - I really don't think this would fit everything so perfectly - with still likely more details to be discovered or already discovered and not yet connected - that also completely support this evidence.

 

I promise everyone, this is not just another hair brained theory which I have doubts for - I can't contradict this one with any counter to myself, the real deal. IF there is anything at all to still do in this game, fly UFOs, use SPACE_ROCKETs and bust sh*t up, all of it, to do that, you need to bring these three characters to attunement, or just michael, or play it right - you need to play it like a puzzle, and let it guide you now that you know.

 

If you think you are being told not to kill anyone, I mean, I don't have the game to figure out how to do it - It's GTA, and the cults in this game are as evil as their real life counterparts. Clearly greed drives epsilon, and they are not saints. So it is more about who survives that is okay to survive, and maybe even who doesn't survive who shouldn't.

 

You kill Cris, right? Or no? If you do, perhaps there is a way for that not to happen.

 

This is my FAVORITE thing about GTA, personally. The first playthrough is one thing - the subsequent toying with the game to find different ways for things to be done is another.

 

And this is all kind of making me wonder if GTA SA really did have a big secret, however there wasn't anything I can remember that ever convinced me to take a close look at that. That just seemed like a bunch of bullsh*t stories that never happened, with a bunch of kids making their own GTA SA based blair witch videos and all.

 

I skip things that are not real. This secret is real, for sure. And I am more confident in this, from a very critically thought out analytical position.

 

If you have seen my best posts, you know I am not a dummy - I went a little crazy over the excitement about this egg hunt, but I really feel like I've finally cracked it.

 

To be brutally honestly, if you end up being right I will be very disappointed in Rockstar. Because that would mean that instead of fixing any of the problems GTA V has, instead of balancing it better, instead of adding things like safe houses, and instead of adding a few more game missions, they decided to make a hidden system to track the players actions for the sake of a hidden vehicle that they know everyone wants to play with. Not only that, but they set the bar towards finding that vehicle in direct opposition to that of the GTA series so that only a very, very small percentage of the player-base will be able to access it without making the game a chore. That's not very clever, that's just being stupid. That's the biggest reason I doubt the theory. There is no logical reason for Rockstar to design the game that way.

 

 

People have complained for the last 5 years that they have nothing to do in IV. Now you will complain that replayability exists in the game now? How deep may it potentially go? This is amazing and groundbreaking stuff - this is a very, very deep game.

 

And, GTA Online, man. GTA Online.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[NickSimo]

Brian you did not PROVE anything !!

 

It is YOUR THEORY. Ive played the game twice, killing and not killing people, doing everything differently and nothing changes !!

 

Just because we disagree doesnt mean we can't understand you.

[ezfaun]

Well at least you're acting sane now. Bravo?!...

[Boozexlightyearxx]

Jesus christ.

 

OPs ego is beyond big. He has yet to play the game, he thinks he is superior while others who played it solved things (like the 8.) Please mods ban him and please Brian don't reproduce.

[VolkXue]

Jesus christ.

 

OPs ego is beyond big. He has yet to play the game, he thinks he is superior while others who played it solved things (like the 8.) Please mods ban him and please Brian don't reproduce.

Compensation tends to work that way.

[05-BROCKY-05]

Yup Brian, no proof in your essay, clearly you can write, and very intelligently but i can't understand how someone who appears to be intelligent cannot understand that what you are writing is a theory and not proof. There is plenty of great arguments against your theory.

 

PLEASE STOP CLAIMING YOU HAVE PROVED IT, when you dont even have the game, nor played through it elsewhere, it is just stupid and makes you look stupid even though you clearly are not. The superiority complex in which you seem to have is nauseating.

Edited October 1, 2013 by 05-BROCKY-05

[brian.]

I've seen "I can't kill any peds?! Bull. They would never do that" so many times.

 

no sh*t!

That's the critical thought I am talking about. I realize some of the things Gforce said are bullocks, but the points that related to what I said were very good observations that showed me he was right on board and had paid attention to the story.

 

Critical thought: It is impossible to complete the game without killing anyone. What justifies killing a story character, yet a ped is off limits? I considered that first and realized immediately through critical thought that there was no way to complete the story without deaths and that the people we're trying to get high in the ranks with are pretty scummy - so it's not about being a goody two shoes, but something else. Something to do with Karma and Enlightenment more-so than that of religion.

 

The epsilon for example want people to believe they are good and will give them knowledge - but they really just get them to give them money. You are impressing thieves, not saints. You see?

 

If you get over the feeling that you need to "be a good christian" to reach enlightenment in GTA V, you'll see it may really be a way that allowed them to finally deliver a game to the market that can be different for everyone, and a huge puzzle of replayability.

 

How many people here have seen things debunked, and decided not to go test it - what if it's unlocked in YOUR game, but not in the debunker's game?

 

It's a deep personal journey - it's not meant to be figured out in groups. It's meant to be figured out by you.

 

And it's f*cking awesome

[Crimie]

Theres no solution here Bryan, the solution would be you telling us make choice A choice B choice C and another choice A and that is the way to play to get your jetpack or ufo or easter egg or whatever provided with pictures . video, everything, you dont even have the game to do this, and im sure your buddy cyber thunder is not willing to try this method, agree with maybe, but i dont think hell play it every which way just to see if you are right. so this is a theory.

If your theory was right then that would be a solution. You just telling us to play it over and over differnet ways. No solution.

 

if there are 9 diffrent paths that could be taken, and you need 100% to see the egg, thats 9 x 70 hour playthroughs JUST to see if your theory is right or wrong, if somebody actually tested this out and came back here and told you it doesnt work, you would simply vouch that they surely must have done something wrong on the 9 playthroughs. When you get the game and same happens to you 9 times you will think the same. And your descent into madness begins. Just get the game, do some heists, walk chop, play some golf, and let the mystery of the mountain have more power as an unsolved mystery.

 

And if you want to laugh at us for playing on an inferior console and "locking off easter eggs" because we played the way we wanted whatever man, i really think you should just get the game on console and have some fun with it, instead of writing equations and mad man scribblings of the murals and maps all over your walls and ceiling.

Edited October 1, 2013 by One Poor Fool

[GlitzyTomb]

He spent the last 5 pages espousing the undeniable truth of his theory...calling anyone who doubts his theory an "unsavable"...

 

...and then just now he gives it up.

 

 

 

 

There is no facepalm meme image sufficient to express my feelings.

[spamtackey]

 

 

 

People have complained for the last 5 years that they have nothing to do in IV. Now you will complain that replayability exists in the game now? How deep may it potentially go? This is amazing and groundbreaking stuff - this is a very, very deep game.

 

And, GTA Online, man. GTA Online.

 

Only this has nothing to do with replayability. Replayability is making the game fun to play over and over again. They could do that easily by adding branching paths, more minigames and more content in general. They did add the ability to replay missions. If the stats made the game feel radically different over time (like they could in SA) then adding a New Game+ in order to restart with current stats weapons and ammo. Those kinds of things generally improve replayability.

 

What you're talking about is a hidden, unseen, unadvertised tracker that determines through whatever relevant stats (be it civilian kills or not) what secrets you unlock. To the average player the game will end normally and they won't find the other unlocks and will conclude that the game had nothing else to find because the game doesn't tell them there is anything. To them it will not be more replayable than GTA IV except by the already known features. If they don't find it replayable they will still complain because nothing tells them how to replay the game. For this kind of system to be about replayability, it needs to establish itself in the players mind and not hide itself away. We'd need to be told what it looks for or (if the details were completely hidden) see the results of our actions right away. That's what would make it replayable.

 

Could it hide a secret? Sure I will not dispute that. Is it setup to make the game replayable? No. I think you're seeing sophistication where there is none.

[Osho]

If I recall clearly any past GTA, the easter eggs or mystery hunting was never such a stress on human brain, basically seen as a benign, but essentially fun and interesting at the same time.

 

I appreciate any ones time and effort put into such mysteries or easter eggs ( even if it comes out all speculation ).

 

But, it has been argued a lot earlier, before by many others and still did not serve a foolproof solution and purpose.

 

This theory stems upon personal views ( isn’t earth-shattering ) from the few known facts in game about the mystery and the growing knowledge shared by many other players.

 

You’ve got to admit it’s pretty over the top! And, it adds even more weight to the members annoyance level on reading such speculations.

 

 

IMO, The real SOLUTION is already done with all the details known so far. May be drawing out a certain missing stuff still present but that could not be so complex considering the nature and purpose of the game is all about exploration and not to reach specific target or achievement ( particularly Chilliad mystery )

 

And yeah, have you checked the achievements list on stated console platforms, that should serve a common sense response.

 

 

....when you dont even have the game, nor played through it elsewhere

 

If this is true, WTF are you thinking, brian? and why wasting our time?.. Seriously, you should play first at the least.

All this time, I thought... you have actually arrived to a SOLUTION playing the game...

Edited October 1, 2013 by Sol86star

[brian.]

So in simple terms, without the god complex that Brian has, his theory is this:

 

There are eight main ways to complete the game - five of them end up with nothing, three have different rewards.

 

This theory might sound good at first, but it's just hogwash, because people who have completed the game in different ways have all seen the exact same thing.

 

No, 8 paths is what GForce said.

 

It's not hogwash, NONE of you have all 15 tracts, do you? Didn't think so.

 

The "tunnels", where they turn to intersections, those represent the way something could have went. a cross in the road, blocking or furthering your journey to enlightenment. The ends that have NOTHING (considered entrances) are the failure end points. The X's I do not know. The UFO, you know. The Jetpack, we assume. And the Egg, i have no idea.

 

I don't know if you read it from the bottom to the top, or the top to the bottom either.

 

If you read it to the top, it's a process of elimination, when you have many chances to get to your center's chi (the single top line and enlightenment) seems more plausible to me than the alternative:

 

Reading it from top to bottom means you have many paths to enlightenment, that can end any which way, but can intersect and all that.

 

I think it's more about climibing up the mountain, than down it.

 

Someone said something about meeting certain conditions that unlock bigfoot, the ufo's and other things - that no one has done the last 5 x's, I don't know. I wonder if on a brand new game, if you game straight to that location without doing anything else, the first moment you are free and need to trigger and marker to start - see if they are all X's I suppose. That is if the image changes, it should be easiest to find out from the earliest moment possible.

 

It does still need to be ironed out, the ways to get certain things will need to be figured out - at the end of the day it's not a lot different from GTA IV's "kill or not kill" and "meet the survivors as random encounters" - only this time, you will actually get rewards - rewards they have teased you with, in order to make you motivated to achieve them.

 

 

Edit: And you know, I think in this case, it wasn't people being the "idiotic masses", I think that some perhaps are not aware of everything (even some perhaps still think there is a second hatch for example), and those account for the distrust being so hasted after my previous failed theories. The people who see this as a plausible theory are likely the ones who have seen all the stuff I have seen, and just hadn't looked at it all this way yet.

 

The dan house quote is powerful too.

 

There are moral choices, "but gta is not about moral choices" - which is brilliant - because you are not forced, you are invited, once you finish the game and wish there was more - you discover there is.

 

I also fully expect you to be able to see the city under riots.

 

I expect the music on top of epsilon building is mind control, and once disabled, Riot Mode will activate (as seen in glory on the LS Cops tv show).

 

I also expect red-screen Armaggedon like effects, or the ability to nuke the map - I do think there is a nuke in this game - the one you steam with trevor, that's what you can buy for 500k IF you get the eggs.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[hadrianswall]

honest everything that the OP has posted these past few days has been absolute garbage , and he has the cheek to get it your face and call you all the names under the sun for not understanding his nonsense .

[nickstemoeilijk]

 

I also fully expect you to be able to see the city under riots.

 

I expect the music on top of epsilon building is mind control, and once disabled, Riot Mode will activate (as seen in glory on the LS Cops tv show).

 

I also expect red-screen Armaggedon like effects, or the ability to nuke the map - I do think there is a nuke in this game - the one you steam with trevor, that's what you can buy for 500k IF you get the eggs.

 

 

I expect you to be very disappointed/completely nuts by the time you're done with this. Please do yourself a favour and give it a rest buddy.

[Osho]

You're such hater little punks. You've all abused the sh*t out of me for months while I just kept loving the community and accumulating over 165 likes and counting

 

'Likes' feature has just arrived kid.. Your Respect is nowhere 165 and dropping below second-by-second!..

[brian.]

See you in the morning.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/607676-the-reason-you-have-not-found-it-yet/?p=1063530116

 

'Likes' feature has just arrived kid.. Your Respect is nowhere 165 and dropping below second-by-second!..

 

 

hit my name. go ahead, click my pic. look at the likes. 168 now. Make comparisons. Before all the trolls start PM'ing each other to play catch up.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[Ferocious Banger]

tl;dr

 

What is this?

[GyroDemon]

The funniest thing (and saddest) about brian. is that he doens't even own the game.

[GlitzyTomb]

Me thinks he has an unhealthy obsession and/or is having a laugh.

[Osho]

hit my name. go ahead, click my pic. look at the likes. 168 now. Make comparisons. Before all the trolls start PM'ing each other to play catch up.

 

As i said, you are a kid. You can be loved or liked but respect is a different word that needs to be earned not spammed by number of clicks.

Grow up!

[NickSimo]

It's just a game.

[ezfaun]

He's got 168 likes but almost 2800 posts. Not a good ratio from what I see.

[El Tel]

 

 

hit my name. go ahead, click my pic. look at the likes. 168 now. Make comparisons. Before all the trolls start PM'ing each other to play catch up.

The 'likes,' function is completely useless unless there is also a 'dislikes,' fuction to compare it to. You may have 168 likes, but you'd probably have even more dislikes from this thread alone. It's bullsh*t dude, stop using it to inflate your ego.

 

Click my name, compare yours to mine. I've been here 3 weeks and have 101 with a much higher like-per-post ratio so by your logic that must mean that my opinion is more important that yours, right? It means nothing.

Edited October 1, 2013 by El Tel

[brian.]

He's got 168 likes but almost 2800 posts. Not a good ratio from what I see.

 

I have been here since january. I had a lot of posts before this kicked in. I feel like I get a like almost every time I post. It isn't truly every post, but I am constantly getting them, and I see who understands me that way, and who doesn't by how offensive they become when I say something that challenges their false beliefs (like all the hate I got when I was outlining proof that PC is more profitable in game sales, more profitable for Developers, and less expensive for gamers than consoles - I proved it, unequivocally, and out of 100s of hate messages while I did so, I also got lots of likes as well.

 

When I was proving the marketing screenshots were dx11 (and yes, they were, and yes, I was right - it is now a fact - the evidence is staggering and in the game files, the exact effects I named are PC only DX11 and I was treated the same way you are all treating me now, which is pathetic, because I was right those times, and I could be right now. I could be - because 10% of you say I could be, and 90% of the world is too fluoridated to process me, or they just don't like me)

 

One thing is certain; I don't bash anyone, until they bash me and show me THEY feel inferior.

Here is another example, I will use a different occasion of the PC and console stuff:

 

MArketers tell people "you are too dumb to use PC, and it cost too much" - which is a lie, but people believe it, and they constantly say "it's too hard, too expensive" and they are, as I have proved on this very forum, completely wrong.

 

But since they believe those things, WHEN they see a PC gamer, they psychologically feel inferior - they don't even realize it. They have been conditioned to think nerds = smart, pc gamers = nerds, and they know they can't read out loud without being embarrassed, so they get f*cking angry and try to kill the intelligent.

 

My sig, all about these people. All. About. These. People.

 

So you call PC gamers elitist just because you think we're high and mighty just because you believe lies that were told to you by businessmen.

 

Have you ever seen the movie idiocracy? I feel like luke wilson in that movie when I speak in public.

 

Belittling me is not going to make me any less intelligent or sane. I know things that people on this forum could never cope with. Let alone all the stuff I talk about.

 

I admit the egg has blown my mind, but with ALL the dedication you saw with this, with ALL my time to study ALL findings while you guys were all busy producing them, did you really think it would end up not being me who got it?

 

Give me the benefit of the doubt.

 

I did not call anyone inferior - they felt that way, and then called me superior. Period.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.