Chiliad Mural and End Game Easter Eggs SOLUTION

[brian.]

Since Rockstar no give me PC version, you gotta do it. But this is titled properly now and more coherent.

 

 

3 point, easy to swallow post:

 

1: Chiliad Mural is a view at your own Karma. If you make the wrong decisions in the game, you will take the wrong path, and end up

.

 

2: Sinners Passage is not passage as in "some words", it's passage as in, your passage through the game. Passage through your valleys, as you walk along your mountain. It tells you that at the end of the day, it's not that you won, but how you played the game.

 

3: If you play through the game correctly by seeking alternative choices to the obvious ways to complete a mission, instead of getting nothing, you will likely get one or all easter eggs, or whatever else there may be pertaining to the X's..

 

Expand upon this, and see what clues there are. Perhaps things happen in game, that reflect your failures, etc. The killer doesn't die, or end up killing anyone, if you do something right, and kill a guy who ended up killing someone after the mission that made him crazy etc - JUST an example - it could be any number of things, and that one is not plausible. Have people found the strange glyphs from the onset of a NEW game, or only after a certain point, etc.

 

Yes, this demolishes all other theories, but it's pretty well undeniable now, with evidence to be found in the following link. Original thread can be found here for the entertainment factor and the evidences. The following link is the long version once you get through the short. This f*cking thread was pure gold, one of my all time best: http://gtaforums.com/topic/607676-the-reason-you-have-not-found-it-yet/

 

Go forth my sons, and tell reddit about it.

 

Kifflom, brother-uncles. Practice upwards generosity, and one day you can know. And you cannot put a price on knowing.

 

VERY special thanks to CyberGaming and Erik's willingness to try out ALL of my theories - when many people were trying to get me to stop pushing forward, he encouraged me to think about it critically, and by watching all of you fine people, and vicariously playing the game with him, I have been able to make this discovery.

 

None of this is possible without the console gamers.

 

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[Pizentu]

I like where you were going with your other topic but what is the need for multiple topics on the same thing ?

[god level]

*reads it over 4 times*

[brian.]

I like where you were going with your other topic but what is the need for multiple topics on the same thing ?

 

That thread is not easy enough for people to swallow. It is hilarious, classic broker man, but it just turns people off.

 

It has also now expanded. I have now solved the Chiliad Mural. Debunking pretty much every theory in one fell swoop. The problem is, that hilarious or not, that thread was a foul swoop, people are too impatient to enjoy the entertainment along with the information, so this makes it easier for everyone.

 

So now the title works for it, and is far more understandable, less sensational, and all around more enjoyable to swallow.

 

I suppose I am worried about visibility more than anything else, though. If people who already went to that thread don't get the chiliad information as well, they may rack their brains unnecessarily.

 

I suppose if people want to keep that awesome topic alive, I am all for it - but at least now no one will be left out due to already being there. I'm sure one or the other will end up locked, I figured that one would just die out, people opting to discuss it here instead,with a properly named topic of discussion

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[SuperDuperGta]

You need to rephrase SOLUTION to SPECULATION.

[Todmcfly]

This is all useless stop rambling

[brian.]

Doubters are unsavables.

 

It is so utterly obvious that it's sad.

The answer is RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.

 

 

 

Let me break it down for the slow who tend to troll me, then:

 

1: each path there is a means to an end. The X's? Dunno. The pictures? I know one is flying a UFO, and the other looks like a man on a jetpack using a phone - look very closely. It should be easy to see. Especially the phone. Check in game, not on this picture. Zoom in with the scope. He's holding a cell phone.

 

2: If you make the wrong decisions (without even knowing you had a choice unless you pay close attention and/or try to finish missions in different ways then they are telling you to) you will be rewarded once you do it correctly.

 

 

BTW, people should check the epsilon site from the very beginning of the game and see who it says are unsavabled.

 

Check that against what it says in your current game save.

 

I bet if you make the right decisions with trevor, he takes control of the air force base, too.

 

All kinds of wild sh*t.

 

Re-playability of this game is now off the charts. Who knows what lies tucked in the EXE abstracted away from the script.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[SUPAH JD]

Your f*cking ego is the most sickening thing I've seen on here.

There is no proof. Legitamate reasoning and an interesting theory? Sure. But it seems as our definition of proof are two very different things.

Like I said, it's a damn good theory. But your ego is so f*cking out there that I don't even want to take time to say thank you for it.

[SuperDuperGta]

Doubters are unsavables.

 

It is so utterly obvious that it's sad.

 

The answer is RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.

 

I'm adding you to my troll list. In my eyes you're as bad as Orangesaft, Pacman and Zidane

[spamtackey]

If that is actually the answer to finding the jetpack or whatever, then Rockstar can keep their stinkin jetpack. I'm not replaying the entire freaking game and getting 100% again just because they don't like the choices I made.

[Spyem1]

That's gotta be the best theory I've heard yet... Well done. I believe it will work.

[ezfaun]

Dude are you trying to start a cult?? You don't call a case solved until you get the results, Brian. Your points are indeed credencious and hold a lot of meaning to them but at this point, it's like confirming the suspect of a murder just cause some hobo on pcp said he did. I'm not hating, It's just that I don't feel it's right of you substituting speculation as fact. At least at this stage.

[Meow Meow]

Can't see this being true. It would be straight up bullsh*t if so with many putting so much time in to the game and getting 100%, doing everything but because of one supposed "wrong turn" in a mission that was otherwise completed they don't get the easter eggs. And have to start over and do it again not knowing where they went wrong in the first place. I mean come on.

[brian.]

Debunk it then.

 

I can see this will go undone by the doubters until I get my PC copy.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[Fmlad]

This guys full of himself and annoying. 'Oh my thread is so amazing, its hilariously entertaining I can barely swallow it'

Man, shut the f*ck up and tell us what you know or stop wasting time. Your 'Debunking' of 'all' previous theories is just speculation without solid proof. You think to much of yourself that's the problem. What you say may be true about different outcomes and im not going to deny it makes sense but no way does it prove you have debunked all previous theories.

I tried your 'Theory' of taking pictures of big foot and returning, guess what? didn't work! Guess what, Any chance I had to save someone in the game and give them a second chance, I did just that.

Also to note, you say we get nothing in return? Then why is it we can all see the UFO's and that is at the bottom of the mural along with the egg and 'jet pack'.

Since I have been here, I have been trying to solve this with the community, Many of us have wasted so much time that we would prefer to have some solid proof before we waste any more of our time.

[spamtackey]

Debunk it then.

 

I can see this will go undone by the doubters until I get my PC copy.

 

Uh, it's not upon the doubters to debunk your theory. It is your responsibility to prove it before you claim it as fact. Since you claim it as fact without showing us an end result (like the jetpack) we can consider it false until proven true.

[brian.]

You're such hater little punks. You've all abused the sh*t out of me for months while I just kept loving the community and accumulating over 165 likes and counting, goml. With people constantly telling you - SURPRISE THE SAME HATERS IN THIS THREAD - that I constantly make them look stupid.

 

And those are NOT my words, I am just repeating them. So that does not mean I have an ego. It means for every negative thing you say to me for having fun with my character and posts, there is always a bunch of people who have benefited, found value, or had a good laugh at my stuff..

 

What you all have is doubt. And doubt is for the unsavables. And so is hatred. When I spent my time helping you. Same names as usual, first time I'm breaking it out on the table. Not everyone of course. The people I am talking to are obvious and I already avoid them. And you can look through super's posts and see his post quality is low and he is a troll. He is one of the BIGGEST trolls of this easter egg stuff too - just look at his posts. No quality. Not even funny. Rarely of value or relevant to the discussion. Real talk.

 

 

 

Uh, it's not upon the doubters to debunk your theory. It is your responsibility to prove it before you claim it as fact. Since you claim it as fact without showing us an end result (like the jetpack) we can consider it false until proven true.

 

That my friend is a Double standard. It's been all about the "fun of checking theories and debunking them"

 

This is truly sad, I feel so satisfied at how this is going to end up when someone puts the solution to use. =)

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[018361]

Wait so if this theory is true would that meant that you have to get gold in all missions to unlock this stuff by playing them the "right" way or would we all have to start a brand new campaign and keep trying until we find a winning formula?

[Vugo]

Of course you claim this as solution, as there's no way to debunk it other than solving the Easter Egg in itself, which won't happen any time soon.

[ezfaun]

You're all such haters. You've all abused the sh*t out of me for months while I just kept loving the community and accumulating over 165 likes and counting, goml. With people constantly telling you - SURPRISE THE SAME HATERS IN THIS THREAD - that I constantly make them look stupid.

 

And those are NOT my words, I am just repeating them. So that does not mean I have an ego. It means for every negative thing you say to me for having fun with my character and posts, there is always a bunch of people who have benefited, found value, or had a good laugh at my stuff..

 

What you all have is doubt. And doubt is for the unsavables. And so is hatred. When I spent my time helping you. Same names as usual, first time I'm breaking it out on the table. Not everyone of course. The people I am talking to are obvious and I already avoid them.

Doubt is what makes humans intelligent. Without it, we'd think that everything we hear is true. Without doubt we would all essentially be "YOLO"

[Blitzkrieg35]

On a side note, where are you getting these gifs? lol

[brian.]

Wait so if this theory is true would that meant that you have to get gold in all missions to unlock this stuff by playing them the "right" way or would we all have to start a brand new campaign and keep trying until we find a winning formula?

 

There is a mission you do, for example, where you kill someone, but you could have instead just blackmailed him with a suitcase of money.

 

That is one example.

 

It is an INVISIBLE karma system, in so few words, you know what I mean? Let me explain:

 

You go on your hike on the mountain. You go through your path in life. If you make the right turns, you get rewarded. If you make the wrong turns, it is a dead end and you get nothing. Those are the "tunnels into chiliad" - they aren't tunnels, they are dead ends, loss-endings.

 

WHEN YOUR STORY IS COMPLETE - ONCE YOU HAVE THE RESULTS OF YOUR STORY.

 

This theory gets stronger and stronger the more I explain it - new things I realize, like "YOUR" story - the way you play it - the decisions you make, dictate what your easter eggs are going to be.

 

Did the murderer have to kill himself? In fact, did the 8 people have to die? I think that happens before the story starts, so no, but it's an example - what if people die, who are not supposed to, who end up special encounters later?

 

It does not have to be in the script, it can be abstracted and encrypted into the EXE (likely where the UFO handling is, since vehicle archetype veh_spacecraft exists, but nothing in handling.dat for it).

 

I will bet that when you do it right, the UFO does not fade away anymore on chiliad.

 

This game is f*cking awesome lol.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[cjkuhlenbeck]

brain., I'm not going to call you a troll, but I agree with the others. If you can't confirm it then its not the answer.

 

FYI, My game is my own. 100 hours worth. I made choices for good everytime (which sucks sometimes because you get nothing for it) and from what i can tell my game turned out identical to others.

[Vugo]

 

Wait so if this theory is true would that meant that you have to get gold in all missions to unlock this stuff by playing them the "right" way or would we all have to start a brand new campaign and keep trying until we find a winning formula?

 

There is a mission you do, for example, where you kill someone, but you could have instead just blackmailed him with a suitcase of money.

 

That is one example.

 

It is an INVISIBLE karma system, in so few words, you know what I mean? Let me explain:

 

You go on your hike on the mountain. You go through your path in life. If you make the right turns, you get rewarded. If you make the wrong turns, it is a dead end and you get nothing. Those are the "tunnels into chiliad" - they aren't tunnels, they are dead ends, loss-endings.

 

WHEN YOUR STORY IS COMPLETE - ONCE YOU HAVE THE RESULTS OF YOUR STORY.

 

This theory gets stronger and stronger the more I explain it - new things I realize, like "YOUR" story - the way you play it - the decisions you make.

 

I will bet that when you do it right, the UFO does not fade away anymore on chiliad.

 

This game is f*cking awesome lol.

 

I think you just watched way too much footage of the game without actually playing it, and it made you crazy.

 

There isn't a lot of multiple choices in the game. The mission structures are pretty similar to GTA IV.

[JustOneMonth]

 

I like where you were going with your other topic but what is the need for multiple topics on the same thing ?

 

That thread is not easy enough for people to swallow. It is hilarious, classic broker man, but it just turns people off.

 

It has also now expanded. I have now solved the Chiliad Mural. Debunking pretty much every theory in one fell swoop. The problem is, that hilarious or not, that thread was a foul swoop, people are too impatient to enjoy the entertainment along with the information, so this makes it easier for everyone.

 

So now the title works for it, and is far more understandable, less sensational, and all around more enjoyable to swallow.

 

I suppose I am worried about visibility more than anything else, though. If people who already went to that thread don't get the chiliad information as well, they may rack their brains unnecessarily.

 

I suppose if people want to keep that awesome topic alive, I am all for it - but at least now no one will be left out due to already being there. I'm sure one or the other will end up locked, I figured that one would just die out, people opting to discuss it here instead,with a properly named topic of discussion

 

I got you. You want people to swallow.

 

(to confirm this sh*t you need 3 players to finish it all and in different ways and screenshot the chillad thing)

Edited October 1, 2013 by JustOneMonth

[brian.]

brain., I'm not going to call you a troll, but I agree with the others. If you can't confirm it then its not the answer.

 

FYI, My game is my own. 100 hours worth. I made choices for good everytime (which sucks sometimes because you get nothing for it) and from what i can tell my game turned out identical to others.

 

You DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC AT ALL.

 

There are things you did that were NOT supposed to be done, which ALTERED your path (on chiliad mural) and you ended up with nothing at the end if you cannot find it in this long.

 

It is a secret. Where's your 5 tracts? You don't think that's supposed to be there? You made it not happen by playing incorrectly.

 

Do you understand now?

 

edit: I cannot f*cking wait until I have this game or someone starts a new play-through and plays carefully, with all they have learned in mind. I am going to rub it in all unsavable doubter's faces, too.

 

And you will not call me an ego. You doubted me on the screenshots. You doubted me about everything. I have been right all along, and the screenshots are proven. I am right about this. Because I spent more time on this correcting people that there is only ONE hatch than MOST of you spent on it at all.

 

It is a puzzle. The whole game is a puzzle.

Edited October 1, 2013 by brian.

[JOKA22]

Well it's something different. Although something different isn't exactly a solution, especially when it's all speculation.

[Darth_Starkiller]

I guess I know now why you named your account after this specific character.

[spamtackey]

 

 

That my friend is a Double standard. It's been all about the "fun of checking theories and debunking them"

 

This is truly sad, I feel so satisfied at how this is going to end up when someone puts the solution to use. =)

 

No, it's not a double standard. If you opened a thread saying "I think I might know what this is about" and laid this upon us as a theory that we should test, nobody would be getting up-in-arms over it. The reason you have to prove it is because you call it a solution. You tell us that it has to be true until we debunk it, which is just a way of saying that you have no way of proving the theory but believe in it so blindly that you are unwilling to accept the possibility of it being false.

 

Let me give you a reason for it to be false:

 

Rockstar are not idiots. They designed GTA around fun and choice not around playing by rules. This is why they have little easter eggs like Michael telling you to stop firing rockets at his house or taking the medical bill for friends you injure. They are perfectly aware of the players desire to cause mayhem and to mess with the status quo. There is no good reason that they would design an easter egg hunt around playing by the rules. Furthermore, the game saves your progress before you replay a mission and that's what it sends you back to after the mission ends, so, no matter what, the choice you first made is the result that you get. This means the only way to find this easter egg is to randomly play the game the 'right way' without making any mistakes and starting over from the beginning when you do make a mistake, but you don't know what the mistakes are so basically replay the game over and over until you stumble upon it or have a save outside of EVERY mission to go back to, but even then you may end up replaying half of the game.

 

If this is true, I'm not saying it's 100% false, then Rockstar can very well keep their easter egg. I'll play my own game how I damn well please.

[Vugo]

Well it's something different. Although something different isn't exactly a solution, especially when it's all speculation.

Any attempt to convince that he might be wrong is absolutely worthless, he's clearly convinced that what he's saying is a fact.