Addressing V "not being fun" in regards to police combat.

[Vooodu]

 

 

 

Theres nothing wrong with police. People really need to just stfu and deal with it.

 

I've yet to be busted or killed by the police...I have no clue what people keep bitchin about.

 

Give us some proof or shut the f*ck up yourself.

 

 

 

No and No.... Deal with it kid. Learn how to play.

 

 

Calling me kid while using 'deal with it' stupid meme.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, only a kid would tell me to prove something as minor as this. As if getting away from cops is rocket science,

 

"Dealing with it" is what Adults do.. Dealing with it is what real gamers do.

 

Don't really care what a stupid meme means to you. Personally that sounds like kiddie internet speak for whiners.

[ImBoss450]

Voodoo has to be a small kid or young teen lmfao. dude is a idiot.

 

poste pic's of yourself or proof of 5 star cop escapes. thanks.

 

post skype bro. lets see what u about

 

 

 

Anyway i agree with OP, police are much better than previous titles, but could use just a little tweaking on spawns and probably agressiveness. Depending on amount of stars maybe?

Yet you talk about kids being stupid or immature, and you act the same.

[Vooodu]

I mean seriously, im not quite sure what peoples issue are here or why they get soooo damn defensive and insulting when told to deal with it.

 

The game can be quite sensitive to getting a 1 star rating.. Yes, that can be annoying but its easy to avoid.

 

But, the people talking about getting 5 stars.. W T F are you complaining about? You go out of your way to get a 5 star and expect a 1 star reception and escape? And instead of dealing with it you complain?

 

Getting 5 stars take some effort. Clearly you are writing an check your ass can't cash if you are sitting here complaining about it. So really, either don't get 5 stars or just deal with it.

 

Cops are accurate yes, But so are the players. Especially the kids rocking auto aim.

 

If cops are such an issue... Just don't start anything and there won't be anything.

[Trevkillz]

Police aren't the only ones with this laserbeam accuracy. Try doing some weapon runs with Trevor, you die in 5 shots can't even get close to the Aztecans or whoever they are before I'm toast. It seems all enemy's have pinpoint accuracy when you're behind the wheel no matter how you drive so give us some bulletproof windows plz but have it be destroyable like body armor is. That's my only gripe with police or other enemy npc's, getting stars for taking cab rides without $ or other dumb things is a little annoying but they are pretty easy to escape otherwise.

[CReaper210]

 

Yes, the cops are a bit overpowered indeed. Saying you've never been killed by the police could be true, if you never screwed around outside the missions or use cheats or escaped them all the time.

 

But if you do like to screw around and want to engage the police you'll notice how annoyingly accurate they are and how fast they spawn.

 

 

 

I always screw around with the police as Trevor and I Never get killed or caught. The cops maybe annoyingly accurate but they are also very easy to loose.

 

I myself don't do police stand offs because I know I can't win. I kill only the ones that get in my way as I try to get away.

 

 

If you keep kicking the bee hive, you will die. That's my take...

 

I mean I even use Free Aim.. So, what evs/

 

Well, that's the point, buddy. WE WANT TO HAVE A SHOOTOUT WITH THE COPS. Unfortunately, I agree with most everyone else here. They do seem very hard to beat. They have strong tactics and high accuracy. And sometimes, I honestly just want to destroy an army of cops to have a little fun. But in this game, you die if you ever try and hold down a position. Just nothing you can do.

[Vooodu]

 

 

Yes, the cops are a bit overpowered indeed. Saying you've never been killed by the police could be true, if you never screwed around outside the missions or use cheats or escaped them all the time.

 

But if you do like to screw around and want to engage the police you'll notice how annoyingly accurate they are and how fast they spawn.

 

 

 

I always screw around with the police as Trevor and I Never get killed or caught. The cops maybe annoyingly accurate but they are also very easy to loose.

 

I myself don't do police stand offs because I know I can't win. I kill only the ones that get in my way as I try to get away.

 

 

If you keep kicking the bee hive, you will die. That's my take...

 

I mean I even use Free Aim.. So, what evs/

 

Well, that's the point, buddy. WE WANT TO HAVE A SHOOTOUT WITH THE COPS. Unfortunately, I agree with most everyone else here. They do seem very hard to beat. They have strong tactics and high accuracy. And sometimes, I honestly just want to destroy an army of cops to have a little fun. But in this game, you die if you ever try and hold down a position. Just nothing you can do.

 

 

 

Huh?... You are not supposed to win shoot outs with cops. You are supposed to get the hell away as fast as possible.

 

And if you do start a shoot out with cops you better have an escape plan ready. Because you will die..

[TrevorPhilipsInc]

The problem is. People go into these Police Stand Offs expecting it to be like past games.

 

In the past they could drop the wanted levels to zero in a heart beat if things got too out of hand and they could no longer see a way to escape and evade the army of Police and Military chasing them down.

 

Thats not the case in GTAV and their pissing their pants at the idea of toying with the cops the way they did in LC or SA.

 

You can no longer knock off your wanted levels quickly...And more over the Police arent dumbfounded by your behavior. They conduct searches of the areas and will pursue with the intent of putting you down like a rabid dog. Then theres the fact that the majority of LS and Blaine County has plenty of room for Police Helicopters to operate..Unlike LC where Helicopters had to keep their distance due to skyscrapers. And the most annoying complaint is that the cops can actually aim and shoot...My god the audacity of Rockstar to let the police behave as if theyve had some sort of training before putting on a badge, strapping on a gun and getting behind a squad car. We wouldnt want there to be a challenge involved with toying with the very people criminals in real life run from.

 

Yes its a video game, yes there needs to be a limit to the realism factor. And theres definitely issues in regards to the Police ingame. But the cops arent the real problem here. Its the lack of adaptability of the playerbase. Theyve hit a brickwall because theyve played so many past GTA games where this aspect of the game was quite simple and almost always resulted in laughs and wasnt taken seriously.

 

Now you have to get your laughs from the random events that take place..the strange behavior of NPC AIs and its the Police that present a challenge. Because you have to think about where youre going to make your stand, you have to think about what weapon youre going to use and when to poke your head out and take a shot.

 

During missions its totally okay for the AI to be intelligent enough to be deadly accurate...but not in free roam, those pesky cops should have lapses in judgement between missions, cops should forget how to point and shoot between missions, cops should forget how to search for criminals and try to kill them between missions.

 

People arent complaining because theyre OP. People are complaining because they cant massacre waves of Police like they once did in past games..And I think its pretty sad that these idiots just cant see why these cops actually bring back something to this game you dont have in many others. A challenge. Something that doesnt just let you walk all over sh*t and have no consequences to your behavior. People want care-bear mechanics in games that some how know when the player expects a challenge and when they just want to dick off. Sorry to disappoint but technology hasnt evolved to that point yet. So youre just gonna have to deal with the 'OP' police

Edited September 28, 2013 by TrevorPhilipsInc

[Sylis.coyl]

You just have to get creative, I had three stars and jumped behind some fence in the Rockford hills to break LOS from the cops. Unsure if they would scour all of the area I sat behind the fence (more or less a short wall) and observe them follow my footsteps. Two approached my location one just in front of the wall to me and the other at 10 o'clock looking very intent on climbing the wall I was hiding behind. To my speculation he began to jump the wall to my location and I took this cue to jump over the wall which was to directly to my right, *barely* out of both officers peripherals, and as my feet hit the ground I slowly snuck away managing to evade all three stars as another squad car rounded the corner.

From what I've learned, the wanted system is much more dynamic under the circumstances. You can walk away from 4 stars if you allow yourself an escape and manipulate the officers last known location of you.

[Erebosgaminghd]

 

Theres nothing wrong with police. People really need to just stfu and deal with it.

 

I've yet to be busted or killed by the police...I have no clue what people keep bitchin about.

 

Give us some proof or shut the f*ck up yourself.

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I'm not trying to fuel the fire here but I have a video of a 5-star police chase + Escape so it can be done. Albeit it is pretty difficult but it's a nice challenge.

Edited September 28, 2013 by Erebosgaminghd

[Vooodu]

 

 

People arent complaining because theyre OP. People are complaining because they cant massacre waves of Police like they once did in past games..And I think its pretty sad that these idiots just cant see why these cops actually bring back something to this game you dont have in many others. A challenge.

 

Hell ya dude!... That's what im talking about.

[Ninjambie]

My problem isn't the police themselves. The problem I have is the wanted system. How do I get stars in the middle of BFE where there's no one around?! Or for punching someone in an ally? Etc....

[TrevorPhilipsInc]

My problem isn't the police themselves. The problem I have is the wanted system. How do I get stars in the middle of BFE where there's no one around?! Or for punching someone in an ally? Etc....

 

Ive said this a few times now. This is most likely a bug. If anyone has noticed it doesnt always happen. And when it does it behaves in the same manner that the system works when you try to break into the Prison or the Military Base. Its instant.

 

The normal mechanic waits for someone (who observed the crime) to call the cops. Theyre alerted to your position, what youre driving and so forth. They then take a few seconds to descend on the scene..They immediately head for the last known position and from their fan out. This doesnt happen when it bugs out. It behaves the same way as when youre on the military base or the Prison. They know where you are exactly and have no problem identifying the person that obviously sticks out and doesnt belong.

[CReaper210]

 

 

Huh?... You are not supposed to win shoot outs with cops. You are supposed to get the hell away as fast as possible.

 

And if you do start a shoot out with cops you better have an escape plan ready. Because you will die..

 

We did multiple times in the campaign. And me and my friends did it all the time(well, lasted a long time) in GTA4.

We would travel on foot from one side of the map to the other, with 6 stars. And we could live all the way to the end, and it was loads of fun.

^Not possible in GTA5, and it makes the game less fun.

Edited September 29, 2013 by creaper210

[Don 'de Medici']

The only thing that needs to be done to cops is this.

 

They need to conduct their on foot "Search & Sweeps" with relation to your last SEEN location.

 

Currently, police do not seem to initiate their search for you starting in the location of your last seen whereabouts. Instead they magically seem to know where your elaborate hiding spots.

 

For example my last SEEN location will be half a mile away - but somehow the police are all still converging on top of my location and it feels like pac man.

 

If they fixed this one thing omg

Edited September 29, 2013 by Don 'de Medici'

[j87ball]

The whole thing is stupid, I beep my horn at someone in the way they call the cops and I get shot to death for driving off after the phone call

[Cyper]

There is nothing wrong with their accuracy.

 

What you're asking for is dumbing down the police AI to make them fired their weapons like if they nerver had done it before. The fact that the player can snap-shoot from cover makes it easy. The shooting is already too easy for the player. Police in GTA IV was horrible and you could take to many shots.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Cyper

[Kent_Paul_Jnr]

police ai is OP and bugged out - watever lable u put on it, it needs tweaking

 

two weeks after release R* are publically only talking about patching GTAO

 

what a money grab

[JohnnyColbert]

The game can be quite sensitive to getting a 1 star rating.. Yes, that can be annoying but its easy to avoid.

 

When you typed avoid, did you mean escape? Otherwise that's quite a contradictive statement.

[Ninjambie]

My problem aren't the cops themselves. It's the wanted system.

[CReaper210]

Seriously, I just want to be able to fight against the police. It's all I want. Say what you want of what YOU think it is supposed to be, but in all other GTA games, we could fight against them(apart from the GTA3 era with 6 stars, than you're F*****) and I want to do that here too. The police are the only force in the game that get progressively harder as you fight them, but they are so effective in combat, that you cannot really fight them once you get to 3 stars. Sure, I could go fight the Ballas or other gangs in Los Santos, but I kill 10 of them and then what? Get murdered by the police?

The police are all we really have endgame to look for some really intense action.

 

Just my opinion. I've never personally had any big problem with the wanted system itself. Cops maybe seem a little too sensitive to my characters hurtful words, but I don't mind that much to be honest.

[garywobby]

Loving v, goty for me definitely so far, but on topic I was walking around getting collectibles and for one I got to the location, started walking towards where it was and accidentally bumped into a cop who was there sight seeing or whatever, instant one star and he started shooting, I ran for my vehicle, instant two stars, on the basis of realism would accidentally bumping into a policeman really put you in the 10 most wanted list????? Still aside from that very annoying occurrence this is easily the best gta game ever in my opinion

[Vooodu]

 

 

 

Huh?... You are not supposed to win shoot outs with cops. You are supposed to get the hell away as fast as possible.

 

And if you do start a shoot out with cops you better have an escape plan ready. Because you will die..

 

We did multiple times in the campaign. And me and my friends did it all the time(well, lasted a long time) in GTA4.

We would travel on foot from one side of the map to the other, with 6 stars. And we could live all the way to the end, and it was loads of fun.

^Not possible in GTA5, and it makes the game less fun.

 

 

 

GTA is not about killing cops. It never was....

[Apxidia]

I don't think the real problem has been emphasized here. The problem is not the fact that the cops are a force to be reckoned with and are extremely aggressive/intelligent/diligent.

 

The problem is that they will show up for nearly anything you do.

 

Last night I saw a group of cops talking on a sidewalk. I walked up to them with no weapon exposed to hear their conversation. Within 5 seconds they pushed me, drew their weapons, I received one star, and they started to shoot me when I ran away. I didn't do a damn thing. I just stood there.

 

Same goes for random peds. If you walk up to a stranger on the road, one of three things will happen

 

1) they will attempt to fight you

2) they will run away (screaming for their life)

3) they will call the cops on you, and you receive one star immediately

 

And can anyone confirm that you now get shot if you have one star? It seems to be the case for me, and it never used to be that way.

 

( I realize that the star system is changed, but there should still be a level where cops attempt to bring you in without being lethal.)

 

 

[CReaper210]

 

 

 

 

Huh?... You are not supposed to win shoot outs with cops. You are supposed to get the hell away as fast as possible.

 

And if you do start a shoot out with cops you better have an escape plan ready. Because you will die..

 

We did multiple times in the campaign. And me and my friends did it all the time(well, lasted a long time) in GTA4.

We would travel on foot from one side of the map to the other, with 6 stars. And we could live all the way to the end, and it was loads of fun.

^Not possible in GTA5, and it makes the game less fun.

 

 

 

GTA is not about killing cops. It never was....

 

I'm sorry, is that what my comment said? No, I was referring to a few missions in the game that involved you killing cops(plus the military for f*** sake) and beating them in firefights and escaping.

Plus, fighting cops in the previous games was possible and FUN regardless. In this game, it is not.

[Vooodu]

 

 

 

 

 

Huh?... You are not supposed to win shoot outs with cops. You are supposed to get the hell away as fast as possible.

 

And if you do start a shoot out with cops you better have an escape plan ready. Because you will die..

 

We did multiple times in the campaign. And me and my friends did it all the time(well, lasted a long time) in GTA4.

We would travel on foot from one side of the map to the other, with 6 stars. And we could live all the way to the end, and it was loads of fun.

^Not possible in GTA5, and it makes the game less fun.

 

 

 

GTA is not about killing cops. It never was....

 

I'm sorry, is that what my comment said? No, I was referring to a few missions in the game that involved you killing cops(plus the military for f*** sake) and beating them in firefights and escaping.

Plus, fighting cops in the previous games was possible and FUN regardless. In this game, it is not.

 

 

 

So fighting cops is no longer possible? Well, that's news to me.

 

 

Seriously. Everyone needs to stop bitching.... Its very annoying.

[Vooodu]

police ai is OP and bugged out - watever lable u put on it, it needs tweaking

 

two weeks after release R* are publically only talking about patching GTAO

 

what a money grab

 

 

Good lord, is that all you do? Bitch, bitch, bitch.

 

Police are not OP. Maybe if you played more and bitched less you would not have so many problems.

[The-San-Andreas-man]

I remember being in Michaels house, taking cover behind the wall at the top of the stairs, ready to have a survival mode type thing with the cops like I did in GTA 4.

 

And I have to say, I was literally amazed by their A.I.

 

They literally waited by the door, and then when there was about 3 or 4 of them, I heard them counting down, and then saying "Okay let's go!" and they all rushed in at the same time, and the guy with the shotgun charged me, while the others remained stationary waiting for me to poke my head out and shoot him.

 

It was incredible! In GTA 4 all they did was just run up to you like a bunch of morons. I like that the cops are challenging and smart, but yeah the "random 1 star out of nowhere" should be patched or tweaked.

[Lee Everett]

 

They overdone that aspect, and now you're dead as soon as you exit the car.

 

It definetly needs tweakings.

 

So don't get out of the car.. Sounds more like you need the tweaking.

 

 

Shut the hell up already you damn fan boy.

 

I love this game, and is by far my favorite GTA along with 4. But it DOES have issues, and cops are one of them. I do not agree with the OP on how to fix the issue. My only real problem with the cops are the helicopters. You take out 2 of them, and another 2 respawn in less than 10 seconds, giving you no time to really hide from the police after 4 stars.

 

But yeah, some people just have to accept that the game DOES have some problems, and stop riding on Rockstars balls so hard.

 

I still give the game a 10/10, because I love it for what it is. But chill out.

 

 

 

Edit: Not to mention, you can be in the middle of completely f*cking no where, be standing there, doing nothing, then the stupid NPC's call the cops on you for "harassment". You don't even have to say anything to them, and you're done. Ah right, you can try to kill them before they do that (again, in the middle of no where), and boom, still get a star. This DOES interfere with gameplay. The game is amazing, but not perfect. I'm a Rockstar fan myself and own every single GTA game, and will continue to purchase and love their games, but at least I can admit some of the problems the game has.

 

 

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I remember being in Michaels house, taking cover behind the wall at the top of the stairs, ready to have a survival mode type thing with the cops like I did in GTA 4.

 

And I have to say, I was literally amazed by their A.I.

 

They literally waited by the door, and then when there was about 3 or 4 of them, I heard them counting down, and then saying "Okay let's go!" and they all rushed in at the same time, and the guy with the shotgun charged me, while the others remained stationary waiting for me to poke my head out and shoot him.

 

It was incredible! In GTA 4 all they did was just run up to you like a bunch of morons. I like that the cops are challenging and smart, but yeah the "random 1 star out of nowhere" should be patched or tweaked.

 

The AI is incredible, and I hope they don't "dumb it down". Sometimes the problem isn't even the cops, it's the npc's who CALL the cops for no reason. That's where the issue comes from. Man, I remember freaking parachuting. And got a 1-2 star, for doing something that was supposed to be fun and harmless, like wtf?

 

Speaking of cops though, what they have to fix is either helicopters respawn times or accuracy. Because from my experience that's where the issue comes from. You're inside a bullet proof car, going over 100mph, yet these people in the helicopter have freaking James Bond accuracy. Then you get out of your car, spend your time to shoot these guys down. And less than 10 seconds later, 2 more helicopters replace it.

 

As for the foot soldiers, they are good, and I see no reason why people complain about them.

 

 

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Another thing that I've noticed, is that the cops are f*cked up in the head when it comes to you actually being the good guy. I crashed this one guys car by accident, he hops out, pulls me out of mine, and then continues to beat the sh*t out of me. I tried to be the good guy and actually called the cops on him. Cops came after about a minute later of having the sh*t beat out of me, then they do nothing and continue on their day. Since the cops obviously couldn't handle the guy, I k0'd the asshole, put him in his place. Then the cops decided it's time to put me in my place, as I got 1 star afterwards.

 

Ah...the good times in Liberty City, when the cops would arrest a man for harassing you..

Edited September 29, 2013 by GTA4 Niko Bellic

[007_eleven]

Well written GTA4 Niko Bellic! I do agree that if helicopters took a minute or two to respawn rather than 5-10 seconds as of now it would make fighting and fleeing from the cops much more enjoyable. It would actually give a purpose to taking them out. And yes the helo gunners are shooting too MLG for us

 

I'm also disappointed that I can't ogle female AI's boobs without them running away or calling the cops Gaaaay.

[wallpaper42]

I always thought games like this should have a way you can "defeat" the cops. I mean if you kill so many of them they should run out of reinforcements eventually... Or change their strategy and stop sending cops to their suicide. Instead they will assault you with an infinite number until the end of time, pretty lame.

 

Otherwise I like the cops except for them being psychic and the ridiculous spawns. But really liking the new line of sight.