Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) This blue light theory is a good start but we need to look further into the tract for more clues. We know that the Eagle most likely references the IAA building or possibly the organization as a whole. Peach trees and apple trees share the same pink blossoms so maybe we are looking for a pink tree. There is a park called mirror park where the lake of truth is most likely located. Also, locations with blue lights seem important. We need to figure out what the dove symbolizes. Edited September 27, 2013 by Nairbnotsew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Keep in mind we should also take the fruit tree part with a grain of salt: http://imgur.com/WFKRoYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 "Fruit tree is a lie" Hmm... the plot thickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 With that new info I think we should bench the fruit tree search for now and focus on other parts of the tract. We can come back to it if we find anything relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Just did a quick search on fruit tree symbolisism and it might be nothing but I came upon this: "Serpents, trees and fruit are important symbols in the religion of Jews, Christians, and Muslims. These symbols are also found in the Norse saga of the ash tree Yggdrasil, where the tree provides a magical springwater of knowledge. In opposition to the serpent (immortality) are the eagle and hawk" Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Just did a quick search on fruit tree symbolisism and it might be nothing but I came upon this: "Serpents, trees and fruit are important symbols in the religion of Jews, Christians, and Muslims. These symbols are also found in the Norse saga of the ash tree Yggdrasil, where the tree provides a magical springwater of knowledge. In opposition to the serpent (immortality) are the eagle and hawk" Coincidence? This is all based off scientology and illuminati (which rely heavily on symbolism) so probably not a coincidence, but we shouldnt expect R* to stick to reality too much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Just did a quick search on fruit tree symbolisism and it might be nothing but I came upon this: "Serpents, trees and fruit are important symbols in the religion of Jews, Christians, and Muslims. These symbols are also found in the Norse saga of the ash tree Yggdrasil, where the tree provides a magical springwater of knowledge. In opposition to the serpent (immortality) are the eagle and hawk" Coincidence? This is all based off scientology and illuminati (which rely heavily on symbolism) so probably not a coincidence, but we shouldnt expect R* to stick to reality too much lol Thats what I thought as well. Just found it curious that it mentioned a tree, a lake of knowledge, and an eagle. It really doesn't help at all at the moment tho. We'll probably look back on it and see the symbolism perfectly once we solve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Can we get a 100%'er down in this dam to see if anything shows up? http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/photo/BxHAS1b0iku6xj6VmldQTQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Can we get a 100%'er down in this dam to see if anything shows up? http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/photo/BxHAS1b0iku6xj6VmldQTQ I'm rocking 97.6 percent right now. Just need a few stunt jumps and the knife flights. It will probably still take me a few hours to get it done tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Can we get a 100%'er down in this dam to see if anything shows up? http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/photo/BxHAS1b0iku6xj6VmldQTQ What you want ? See in the reservoir lake if there's something ? Just did a quick search on fruit tree symbolisism and it might be nothing but I came upon this: "Serpents, trees and fruit are important symbols in the religion of Jews, Christians, and Muslims. These symbols are also found in the Norse saga of the ash tree Yggdrasil, where the tree provides a magical springwater of knowledge. In opposition to the serpent (immortality) are the eagle and hawk" Don't forget that Epsilonism is not a religion, they say that. And this is metaphores so.. Edited September 27, 2013 by WrathChildz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalNo0b Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Can we get a 100%'er down in this dam to see if anything shows up? http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/photo/BxHAS1b0iku6xj6VmldQTQ What you want ? See in the reservoir lake if there's something ? I've had a look down there, couldn't see anything of interest, I didn't have the sub though, only swimming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 3 times now, I have gotten out of my Heli and went to go check something out, but ran into the rotors and killed myself -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsei24 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 So about the tree.... 1. Im almost positive its just a nod to the tree in the garden of eden (Which was stated before) 2. The paradigm says forget the tree. Many people seem to be taking this quite literally in this forum, but i think its just saying that religions that had this tree in their stories, are lieing and that this does not exist. Theyre practically saying that christianity is false and this is the only true religion. What do you guys think? I havent read much of it but this truly stood out. Also, people have been searching the game files correct? If so they should try and see if the 10-15 tracts actually exist and arent just a bug in the social club. But even if they dont necessarily exist in the game code, that doesnt mean they arent there under a different name. It would just be a good idea to check to confirm our suspicions that there is actually 5 more tracts. KIFFLOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 So about the tree.... 1. Im almost positive its just a nod to the tree in the garden of eden (Which was stated before) 2. The paradigm says forget the tree. Many people seem to be taking this quite literally in this forum, but i think its just saying that religions that had this tree in their stories, are lieing and that this does not exist. Theyre practically saying that christianity is false and this is the only true religion. What do you guys think? I havent read much of it but this truly stood out. Also, people have been searching the game files correct? If so they should try and see if the 10-15 tracts actually exist and arent just a bug in the social club. But even if they dont necessarily exist in the game code, that doesnt mean they arent there under a different name. It would just be a good idea to check to confirm our suspicions that there is actually 5 more tracts. KIFFLOM Yeah I also think the tree might be a false lead but its nice to have on the radar in case we catch something more substantial later on. Lets not take anything off the table without giving it a chance. That was a big problem with the last board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 3 times now, I have gotten out of my Heli and went to go check something out, but ran into the rotors and killed myself -.- I find this happens less if you don't use Trevors hopper. Micheal's has a cover on the rotor and if I'm not mistaken he wont die when he bumps it as often. I could be wrong tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsei24 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 So about the tree.... 1. Im almost positive its just a nod to the tree in the garden of eden (Which was stated before) 2. The paradigm says forget the tree. Many people seem to be taking this quite literally in this forum, but i think its just saying that religions that had this tree in their stories, are lieing and that this does not exist. Theyre practically saying that christianity is false and this is the only true religion. What do you guys think? I havent read much of it but this truly stood out. Also, people have been searching the game files correct? If so they should try and see if the 10-15 tracts actually exist and arent just a bug in the social club. But even if they dont necessarily exist in the game code, that doesnt mean they arent there under a different name. It would just be a good idea to check to confirm our suspicions that there is actually 5 more tracts. KIFFLOM Yeah I also think the tree might be a false lead but its nice to have on the radar in case we catch something more substantial later on. Lets not take anything off the table without giving it a chance. That was a big problem with the last board. Very True. We should all try and agree on something to look into and not go from lights to buildings to lakes to reservoirs and back again. I personally have no idea what to start with though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 So about the tree.... 1. Im almost positive its just a nod to the tree in the garden of eden (Which was stated before) 2. The paradigm says forget the tree. Many people seem to be taking this quite literally in this forum, but i think its just saying that religions that had this tree in their stories, are lieing and that this does not exist. Theyre practically saying that christianity is false and this is the only true religion. What do you guys think? I havent read much of it but this truly stood out. Also, people have been searching the game files correct? If so they should try and see if the 10-15 tracts actually exist and arent just a bug in the social club. But even if they dont necessarily exist in the game code, that doesnt mean they arent there under a different name. It would just be a good idea to check to confirm our suspicions that there is actually 5 more tracts. KIFFLOM Yeah I also think the tree might be a false lead but its nice to have on the radar in case we catch something more substantial later on. Lets not take anything off the table without giving it a chance. That was a big problem with the last board. Very True. We should all try and agree on something to look into and not go from lights to buildings to lakes to reservoirs and back again. I personally have no idea what to start with though. I think we should start by agreeing on an order to the verses. Do we read them in reverse? The first and last line of the tract mention something that could be interpreted that way. If so, I think we should begin by exploring the metaphors that present themselves in the text first. Or, we could split up the different areas we want to investigate between us and each of us just focus that area for clues. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) So about the tree.... 1. Im almost positive its just a nod to the tree in the garden of eden (Which was stated before) 2. The paradigm says forget the tree. Many people seem to be taking this quite literally in this forum, but i think its just saying that religions that had this tree in their stories, are lieing and that this does not exist. Theyre practically saying that christianity is false and this is the only true religion. What do you guys think? I havent read much of it but this truly stood out. Also, people have been searching the game files correct? If so they should try and see if the 10-15 tracts actually exist and arent just a bug in the social club. But even if they dont necessarily exist in the game code, that doesnt mean they arent there under a different name. It would just be a good idea to check to confirm our suspicions that there is actually 5 more tracts. KIFFLOM Yeah I also think the tree might be a false lead but its nice to have on the radar in case we catch something more substantial later on. Lets not take anything off the table without giving it a chance. That was a big problem with the last board. Very True. We should all try and agree on something to look into and not go from lights to buildings to lakes to reservoirs and back again. I personally have no idea what to start with though. Blaine County is our biggest bet I think. There is a statue of a chicken on an egg somewhere there I just dont know where. Edited September 27, 2013 by Larose- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Epsilonist Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Good spot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 http://gtaforums.com/topic/605010-has-anyone-found-the-jetpack/ Don't click the link. He is just asking about the damn alamo sea again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) So about the tree.... 1. Im almost positive its just a nod to the tree in the garden of eden (Which was stated before) 2. The paradigm says forget the tree. Many people seem to be taking this quite literally in this forum, but i think its just saying that religions that had this tree in their stories, are lieing and that this does not exist. Theyre practically saying that christianity is false and this is the only true religion. What do you guys think? I havent read much of it but this truly stood out. Also, people have been searching the game files correct? If so they should try and see if the 10-15 tracts actually exist and arent just a bug in the social club. But even if they dont necessarily exist in the game code, that doesnt mean they arent there under a different name. It would just be a good idea to check to confirm our suspicions that there is actually 5 more tracts. KIFFLOM Yeah I also think the tree might be a false lead but its nice to have on the radar in case we catch something more substantial later on. Lets not take anything off the table without giving it a chance. That was a big problem with the last board. Very True. We should all try and agree on something to look into and not go from lights to buildings to lakes to reservoirs and back again. I personally have no idea what to start with though. Blaine County is our biggest bet I think. There is a statue of a chicken on an egg somewhere there I just dont know where. There's no chicken on a egg, just a chicken on a bell. at the base of Mt.Chiliad, north side. EDIT : This area Edited September 27, 2013 by WrathChildz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) So about the tree.... 1. Im almost positive its just a nod to the tree in the garden of eden (Which was stated before) 2. The paradigm says forget the tree. Many people seem to be taking this quite literally in this forum, but i think its just saying that religions that had this tree in their stories, are lieing and that this does not exist. Theyre practically saying that christianity is false and this is the only true religion. What do you guys think? I havent read much of it but this truly stood out. Also, people have been searching the game files correct? If so they should try and see if the 10-15 tracts actually exist and arent just a bug in the social club. But even if they dont necessarily exist in the game code, that doesnt mean they arent there under a different name. It would just be a good idea to check to confirm our suspicions that there is actually 5 more tracts. KIFFLOM Yeah I also think the tree might be a false lead but its nice to have on the radar in case we catch something more substantial later on. Lets not take anything off the table without giving it a chance. That was a big problem with the last board. Very True. We should all try and agree on something to look into and not go from lights to buildings to lakes to reservoirs and back again. I personally have no idea what to start with though. Blaine County is our biggest bet I think. There is a statue of a chicken on an egg somewhere there I just dont know where. There's no chicken on a egg, just a chicken on a bell. at the base of Mt.Chiliad, north side. EDIT : This area If thats the case I think Im stumped for now then Edited September 27, 2013 by Larose- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 so far though, the most promising lead is the area around the FIB and IAA building. I suggest people try and find a trail of blue lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The blue light could be the Arcadius building that is blue at night.. Dunno.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 so far though, the most promising lead is the area around the FIB and IAA building. I suggest people try and find a trail of blue lights. Another interesting thing I noticed. FIB, IAA, and Maryweather all use the Eagle as a logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) I think I found the island from the screensavers! Gonna come back with the sub.http://rsg.ms/18vEmYW http://rsg.ms/18vEsQq Edited September 27, 2013 by Larose- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Guess this become new Bigfoot/Ratman mystery for GTA V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee C S Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 http://imgur.com/gallery/hPP1g9D/new single apple on tree down by light house might be irrelevant .... but thought id share been watching cyber thunders stream and on his way to checking the lighthouse the above image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) I think I found the island from the screensavers! Gonna come back with the sub. http://rsg.ms/18vEmYW http://rsg.ms/18vEsQq I also found that island and I knew it looked familiar. The tree caught my eye not just because its the only tree on the island but because the surrounding areas is all spruce trees. http://imgur.com/gallery/hPP1g9D/new single apple on tree down by light house might be irrelevant .... but thought id share been watching cyber thunders stream and on his way to checking the lighthouse the above image The lighthouse is also prominently shown in the Epsilon screen saver. Both of these locations could prove to be relevant. Good job guys! Edit: Also, look closer at the leaves on the tree. They are pink! Edited September 27, 2013 by Nairbnotsew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hukrnet Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 This just popped up on reddit from the muppetz: http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1n9qmk/gta_v_something_strange/ I've found this on the http://epsilonprogram.com/ source... I think is related to something. Also if you listen very careful you can hear some whispers on the sound from website. Btw... we should look on all R* GTAV related websites for more info. Raw text :<!--<p><font size="1" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#333333" size="2"><strong><strong>Join us in something special and become one of the children of Kraff. <br></strong><br></strong>Travel through the dawn to the pass pictured in our brochures. Look for a red truck with a dent on the right fender. Raise your left hand and recite the words: "Take me to to my father-father, brother-uncle. Kifflom." We'll do the rest. Because we all know, there is Kifflom and there is Krant, and both be praised.</font></font></p><p><font size="1" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#333333" size="2"><strong>Blindfold required. </strong></font></font></p><p><font size="1" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#333333" size="2"></font></font></p><p> </p>-->Edited : Join us in something special and become one of the children of Kraff. Travel through the dawn to the pass pictured in our brochures. Look for a red truck with a dent on the right fender. Raise your left hand and recite the words: Take me to to my father-father, brother-uncle. Kifflom. We'll do the rest. Because we all know, there is Kifflom and there is Krant, and both be praised.Blindfold required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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